Cheers mate, the old fella just called me and asked if i can replace his water pump, I've never worked on a holden before and you made it look pretty straight forward
Thanks for posting this. I'm fairly confident doing diy car repairs, but it's always great to have a video like this just to make sure I know exactly what I'm up for. Also worth noting that the early VE Series 1 have the same engine and this video also is the same for that model also.
Great guided instructions 👌 Nice job as always 🙌 For some reason your videos did not show up on my channel notifications? Very strange but I heard this can happen sometimes, glad I checked in 👍
Great video mate! Very clearly explained & demonstrated! Thank you! Clever using clips to aid putting the belt back on! How come mines got the 'green stuff' & yours has the 'red stuff'? Mines a 2006 model but I'm not sure that's even significant. This is the first video of yours I've watched, but you did such a good job I just subscribed!
Thanks! The green or red stuff are different. The best thing to do is to go directly to a manufacturer site and get exactly what you need for your vehicle. You just put the manufacturer name & do a vehicle or rego search, then 'hey presto', all the work is done for you. www.datateck.com.au/lube/NulonAus/default.asp
Hey FoldedDown Kleeips, I'm glad the video helped with the pump, but yes, the thermostat is not a fun guy. The engine was originally designed with a transverse application in mind, so replacing the thermostat would have been a 5 minute job - but no, they had to stick it in the other way and make our life difficult. There are several different methods to attack this beast, including removal of the transmission. Here is a video that shows a different method that is successful, but still a pain. ua-cam.com/video/MeXH0mmES54/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ZIGgassedUP I hope that helps! 😁 MiracleMAX
I replaced mine yesterday. I was surprised at how easy it is. It had hairline cracks and the centre part was very loose. It's done just over 188k. I floored it too many times I think.
Thsnkyou sir ,,,il never buy another commy again due to some stupid part positiong even a simple indicator relay is a joke ,but thanks again for sharing
hey, cool video man. but im surprised you didn't give a quick mention of the radiator air bleed screw thing, for when refilling the cooling system with coolant. I just mean coz mostly amateurs or people inexperienced with this vehicle might be looking here to gain some confidence (Me). I'm working on 2006 VZ Calais with alloytec 190. GLA
Hey Jayson, Thanks for your comment & yes, I should have mentioned the bleed screw. I forgot because I don't use it to bleed the system. I just let it idle over & wait for the thermostat to open. I've never had any trouble, but I guess I should have shown its location in case others use that method. Good catch!
It's a Repco brand, part number RTT1017. I bought a cheaper brand before, but ended up spending the money to get a better quality unit. Sometimes you have to spend the money for better quality tools.
@@MiracleMAX Hi thanks for that brought an expensive kit first up ,that was meant to do all first time i used it it didn't work, wasn't holding pressure returned disheartened!
@@donnahowson2804 Was it just a faulty kit? Did you exchange it or get your money back? I use the Repco one at the college I teach at and I have the same one in my workshop & have been happy with the quality.
Great video, someone told me there is a special way to add the coolant on a VZ that involves a bleeder screw somewhere, so you don't get air bubbles. Is this true, can you do a video on that.
Hey Andrew O'Grady, I've never personally had any trouble bleeding the VZ engines. I simply fill with coolant and let it idle over until the thermostat opens, keeping an eye on the level and topping up when it drops. That being said, there is a bleed screw at the top of the radiator that will help bleed out any air in the system. MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX Ok thanks mate. Apparently (and I'm no expert) air bubbles causing overheating are a major problem in VZs therefore you need to follow a procedure involving turning the heater on and using that air bleed screw??? obviously your way works as well. I cant find a video showing the VZ on how to change/ fill up the coolant, can you make one please.
@@andrewogrady7505 Would love to next time a VZ with coolant replacement comes in. Yes, you should always turn your heaters on as they are part of the cooling circuit. In the meantime, this link may help you with your bleeding process. Just scroll down to 'Coolant & Filling Coolant'. That should give you some direction. 😊 forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vz-ve-vf-alloytec-cooling-system-repairs.279976/
What a good video sir. I got an issue with my holden executive 2004 3.6engine. I do some flushing because I would like to put Coolant as previous owner just use normal water instead of Coolant. After flushing what I noticed is even I put the water full in the morning I find that I need to top up the radiator water again. I didn't put the Coolant yet because I want to double check if there is any leak. What should I do? Thanks
Hey Anselm Francis, It's good that you are replacing the water with coolant. Make sure you use good quality concentrate with the correct ratio of demineralised water. Have you pressure tested the cooling system, including the cap? Is there any water on the ground? Any oil in the water or water in the oil? Is the carpet wet at all inside the cabin that might indicate a leaky heater core? Here are links to other videos that might help as well. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGjZQfMDbOBo&ved=2ahUKEwi19NCRhLnxAhXpwjgGHat5BGwQwqsBMAF6BAgNEAE&usg=AOvVaw3TeehyuF1SfjfWdbTEY-az www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DO7tjL2UqvnU&ved=2ahUKEwi19NCRhLnxAhXpwjgGHat5BGwQwqsBMAB6BAgFEAE&usg=AOvVaw3MFSZS7HHlD37nlk883PLD Make sure you share what you find & don't forget to subscribe to the channel. I hope you find the solution you are looking for. MiracleMAX
Hey mate, great video! I've got an alloytec that's leaking from the same hole at the bottom of the water pump at about 1 drop every 2-3 seconds when the engine is hot. I've taken the pump off and there's no rattling and it spins freely, however the gasket seems to have a small chip taken out of it at the bottom (where the leaky hole is). My question is, is it worth trying to put in a new gasket or replace the whole pump anyway?
Hey IBM2217, Welcome to the channel! If coolant is leaking from that breather hole, that means the mechanical seal is leaking. For the work and price of a water pump, its better to be safe than sorry. Probably best to replace the pump to be sure. I doubt it would be coming from the gasket for that rate of coolant loss. MiracleMAX
Any coolant repairs require the system to be bled. Some of these can be a bit tricky, but I fill the cooling system, then let it idle with the heaters turned on, while adding coolant as needed. Wait for the top radiator hose to get hot, then the coolant itself should be hot at that stage. Fit the cap. Check the level the next day when it is cold.
Hi Max, Thanks for the tutorial. Do you think the VZ can run without the plastic shrouds? Are they only for show or do they perform some other purpose?
Hey suz4keeps, Do you mean the plastic covers on the engine itself - the ones I removed in the video? They are really just for cosmetic purposes. The big one I also removed at the front is needed to help direct the air through the radiator and should be left in place. MiracleMAX
Hey Ahmad Firdaus, It's hard to say without actually looking at it. There is a breather hole that allows pressure to equalise. Although it might look like the gasket is all that is leaking, after removal you might find coolant leaking from the breather hole like I did: ua-cam.com/video/WncVYElZG1k/v-deo.html As coolant leaks from the breather hole, it can be flicked around by the pulley and make it look like just a gasket. I hope that helps MiracleMAX
Hey Tristan Piano , Why was the thermostat changed? Is it possible that the temp sensor wire was knocked off during the thermostat replacement? Or perhaps squashed under something and now permanently earthed? Can you see on the scan tool what the engine temperature is? Is it always reading high as soon as you turn the ignition on? Is there a reset feature on the scan tool? Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be the 'engineering mode' that was offered on the VE. MiracleMAX
MAX I’ve caprice (Statesman) 2006 just like this one ☝️ Engine temperature is not stable I’ve changed everything It might be the reason except head gasket .. no visual leaks appear to me .. what’s your advice please
So is it the temperature on the gauge that is not stable or can you see the temperature on a scan tool or perhaps a infrared thermometer? How many Kilometres has the vehicle done? Are both the cooling fans working? Do you have oil in the coolant or coolant in the oil? What have you actually changed and what led you to change them? Has anything been done recently or when did you notice the change? Are there any fault codes? Is the coolant level correct & has the correct ratio of coolant/demineralised water been used? Is the coolant being drawn back into the radiator from the overflow bottle? Has all air been purged from the system? Is the thermostat working correctly? Is the water pump operating correctly? Can you feel heat through the heater core? Is the radiator in good condition? Let us know how you go with these tests to see if there is something I might be missing. MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX First of all thank you so much for replying .. I’m watching the temp. In dashboard gauge and also I have purchased OBD for this purpose Vehicle has made 354000 km odo Many years ago agency forgot to cap the water reservoir in summer time which caused overheating After then problems have started like endless radiator had been changed twice water pump twice Thermostat twice coolant is PEAK blue can 50/50 ratio no oil/water mixture fan coolers never been touched however I checked them twice in electrical shop nothing wrong with them both speed are working as they reported Fusses never been changed Every seven days I have to top up the radiator with one regular tea ☕️ cup No leaks at all If I started the AC in highway with Speed over 60 mph or in traffic the heat start increasing up to 108 c then the sound of coolers became higher like C-130 preparing for take off this is almost summarizing my situation with my chevy alloytic 6 cylinders and thanks in advance sir
@@TyphoonJetPilotMeteb So what does the radiator look like externally? Any bugs or build up of weeds or debris? Make sure you check between the radiator and the condensor, not just the back side of the radiator. The thermostat is at the back of the engine on these and are a pain to replace. Did you say it has been replaced twice? Has the cap been replaced?
@@TyphoonJetPilotMeteb These are notorious for trapped air that can create havoc. Try this method for bleeding the system. ua-cam.com/video/Hn9qm69k44o/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Browney%27sGarage
No.My gauge temperature is going to half.bit high a bit. Then back less than half gauge. My thermostat is fault again. I refill water 2L then i heard. The spring of my thermostat is faulty. Thank you so much for time. You are legend
One of the best how to video series I have watched, well presented and addressed, no boring bits. Good work!
Thanks Giovanni Fante, I appreciate your kind words. This is the reason I started my channel & hopefully continue with quality content.
MiracleMAX.
Cheers mate, the old fella just called me and asked if i can replace his water pump, I've never worked on a holden before and you made it look pretty straight forward
Hey Maze 275,
I hope the repair goes well for you 👍
Thank you for the video max from Bushmech max😊
From one MAX to another, I hope the video helped. 😉👍😎
You should make a “how to series” on these engines, great video and keep up the good work mate🇦🇺
Maybe one day...... I'll put it on the list :)
You are the legend. Strong mentor I thought mate. Love you.❤
Thank you for your kind words
Had to do this the other day gave my partners car a service and bang water pump went the next door your video helped
Glad to hear it helped James Webb! 😉
Thanks for posting this. I'm fairly confident doing diy car repairs, but it's always great to have a video like this just to make sure I know exactly what I'm up for.
Also worth noting that the early VE Series 1 have the same engine and this video also is the same for that model also.
Glad you found the video helpful. Good to know about the VE.
Thanks for your subscription 😉
Water pump gave up today found your tutorial extremely helpful. Thank you
Hey Mathew,
I'm glad the video helped 😁
Feel free to check out other videos on the channel relating to Commodore repairs.
MiracleMAX
Thanks mate. More Eazy than what I was thinking. I'm up to replace mine. An was thinking gonna be a pain of a job.
Thankyou mate this helped alot because I would of had to wait another month to put in shop. So thankyou so much!
I'm glad the video was helpful to you! 👍
There are other VZ Commodore videos on the channel that might interest you
Thank you for your service I love it and was clear for me when you explain everything I'm a water pump v6 commodore thank you for the tip 👍👍👍👍👍
You are welcome. I'm glad it helped! 😉
Great guided instructions 👌
Nice job as always 🙌
For some reason your videos did not show up on my channel notifications? Very strange but I heard this can happen sometimes, glad I checked in 👍
Thanks for checking in.
Maybe that's why I don't get much traffic from notifications.....
@@MiracleMAX 🤔 maybe??
👌👍
Well done sir thank you
You are welcome Typhoon Jet Pilot 😉
Great video mate! Very clearly explained & demonstrated! Thank you! Clever using clips to aid putting the belt back on! How come mines got the 'green stuff' & yours has the 'red stuff'? Mines a 2006 model but I'm not sure that's even significant. This is the first video of yours I've watched, but you did such a good job I just subscribed!
Thanks! The green or red stuff are different. The best thing to do is to go directly to a manufacturer site and get exactly what you need for your vehicle. You just put the manufacturer name & do a vehicle or rego search, then 'hey presto', all the work is done for you.
www.datateck.com.au/lube/NulonAus/default.asp
Thanks for the video mate I just did my water pump today and your vid helped me out a lot 👍
Cheers - Glad I could help! 😊
I'm gonna do pump tonight. thanks mate.. makes it easy.
I love it... thank u so much
Thank you. I will be putting out a few other VZ Commodore repair videos soon
Great how to vid. Very well explained keep up the good work. Thanks.
Glad you liked it 😉
So educational mate, thank you
You are very welcome. I'm pleased that you got something from the video. 😉
Great vid mate you just saved me money
Glad I could help! 😉
Great work
Thank you! Cheers!
Very clear explanation! Great work thanks.
Thanks Paul, you are welcome!
Absolute LEGEND
Kind words. Thank you 👍
Really well done, thanks Max 👍
Thanks Lee 😊
Good video 😎👍
Glad you liked it! Hope it helped you out!
great man!!!
Cheers Mate!
Found this video perfect for replacing the water pump! Needing to replace my thermostat now & struggling to find a way to attack it
Hey FoldedDown Kleeips,
I'm glad the video helped with the pump, but yes, the thermostat is not a fun guy. The engine was originally designed with a transverse application in mind, so replacing the thermostat would have been a 5 minute job - but no, they had to stick it in the other way and make our life difficult.
There are several different methods to attack this beast, including removal of the transmission. Here is a video that shows a different method that is successful, but still a pain.
ua-cam.com/video/MeXH0mmES54/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ZIGgassedUP
I hope that helps! 😁
MiracleMAX
Thanks max great tutorial
Cheers Mate, thanks! 😉
I replaced mine yesterday. I was surprised at how easy it is. It had hairline cracks and the centre part was very loose. It's done just over 188k. I floored it too many times I think.
Glad you had a successful repair 😉👍
Thsnkyou sir ,,,il never buy another commy again due to some stupid part positiong even a simple indicator relay is a joke ,but thanks again for sharing
I guess most manufacturer's have some strange ideas
Too good, thanks
Thanks for your comment Lugo Pena 😉
well down. goos and helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
hey, cool video man. but im surprised you didn't give a quick mention of the radiator air bleed screw thing, for when refilling the cooling system with coolant. I just mean coz mostly amateurs or people inexperienced with this vehicle might be looking here to gain some confidence (Me). I'm working on 2006 VZ Calais with alloytec 190. GLA
Hey Jayson,
Thanks for your comment & yes, I should have mentioned the bleed screw. I forgot because I don't use it to bleed the system. I just let it idle over & wait for the thermostat to open. I've never had any trouble, but I guess I should have shown its location in case others use that method.
Good catch!
good job max
Cheers Ian! 😁
Hi Max What brand of pressure tester kit are you using please, brought one before had to return thanks Donna
It's a Repco brand, part number RTT1017. I bought a cheaper brand before, but ended up spending the money to get a better quality unit. Sometimes you have to spend the money for better quality tools.
@@MiracleMAX Hi thanks for that brought an expensive kit first up ,that was meant to do all first time i used it it didn't work, wasn't holding pressure returned disheartened!
@@donnahowson2804 Was it just a faulty kit? Did you exchange it or get your money back? I use the Repco one at the college I teach at and I have the same one in my workshop & have been happy with the quality.
Great video, someone told me there is a special way to add the coolant on a VZ that involves a bleeder screw somewhere, so you don't get air bubbles. Is this true, can you do a video on that.
Hey Andrew O'Grady,
I've never personally had any trouble bleeding the VZ engines. I simply fill with coolant and let it idle over until the thermostat opens, keeping an eye on the level and topping up when it drops.
That being said, there is a bleed screw at the top of the radiator that will help bleed out any air in the system.
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX Ok thanks mate. Apparently (and I'm no expert) air bubbles causing overheating are a major problem in VZs therefore you need to follow a procedure involving turning the heater on and using that air bleed screw??? obviously your way works as well. I cant find a video showing the VZ on how to change/ fill up the coolant, can you make one please.
@@andrewogrady7505 Would love to next time a VZ with coolant replacement comes in. Yes, you should always turn your heaters on as they are part of the cooling circuit.
In the meantime, this link may help you with your bleeding process. Just scroll down to 'Coolant & Filling Coolant'. That should give you some direction. 😊
forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/vz-ve-vf-alloytec-cooling-system-repairs.279976/
What a good video sir. I got an issue with my holden executive 2004 3.6engine. I do some flushing because I would like to put Coolant as previous owner just use normal water instead of Coolant. After flushing what I noticed is even I put the water full in the morning I find that I need to top up the radiator water again. I didn't put the Coolant yet because I want to double check if there is any leak. What should I do? Thanks
Hey Anselm Francis,
It's good that you are replacing the water with coolant. Make sure you use good quality concentrate with the correct ratio of demineralised water.
Have you pressure tested the cooling system, including the cap? Is there any water on the ground? Any oil in the water or water in the oil? Is the carpet wet at all inside the cabin that might indicate a leaky heater core?
Here are links to other videos that might help as well.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGjZQfMDbOBo&ved=2ahUKEwi19NCRhLnxAhXpwjgGHat5BGwQwqsBMAF6BAgNEAE&usg=AOvVaw3TeehyuF1SfjfWdbTEY-az
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DO7tjL2UqvnU&ved=2ahUKEwi19NCRhLnxAhXpwjgGHat5BGwQwqsBMAB6BAgFEAE&usg=AOvVaw3MFSZS7HHlD37nlk883PLD
Make sure you share what you find & don't forget to subscribe to the channel.
I hope you find the solution you are looking for.
MiracleMAX
Is that a good brand or is there better ( Tru-Flow ? Repco? ) Thanks
I've had no problems with that brand. That being said, if you wanted the 'best' genuine is usually the best bet.
Hey mate, great video! I've got an alloytec that's leaking from the same hole at the bottom of the water pump at about 1 drop every 2-3 seconds when the engine is hot.
I've taken the pump off and there's no rattling and it spins freely, however the gasket seems to have a small chip taken out of it at the bottom (where the leaky hole is).
My question is, is it worth trying to put in a new gasket or replace the whole pump anyway?
Hey IBM2217,
Welcome to the channel!
If coolant is leaking from that breather hole, that means the mechanical seal is leaking.
For the work and price of a water pump, its better to be safe than sorry.
Probably best to replace the pump to be sure. I doubt it would be coming from the gasket for that rate of coolant loss.
MiracleMAX
Do you have to bleed system?
Any coolant repairs require the system to be bled. Some of these can be a bit tricky, but I fill the cooling system, then let it idle with the heaters turned on, while adding coolant as needed. Wait for the top radiator hose to get hot, then the coolant itself should be hot at that stage. Fit the cap. Check the level the next day when it is cold.
Hi Max, Thanks for the tutorial. Do you think the VZ can run without the plastic shrouds? Are they only for show or do they perform some other purpose?
Hey suz4keeps,
Do you mean the plastic covers on the engine itself - the ones I removed in the video?
They are really just for cosmetic purposes.
The big one I also removed at the front is needed to help direct the air through the radiator and should be left in place.
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX Thanks for your advice!
If water come out around gasket thats mean waterpum problem or gasket have no enough glue ? Thanks
Hey Ahmad Firdaus,
It's hard to say without actually looking at it. There is a breather hole that allows pressure to equalise. Although it might look like the gasket is all that is leaking, after removal you might find coolant leaking from the breather hole like I did:
ua-cam.com/video/WncVYElZG1k/v-deo.html
As coolant leaks from the breather hole, it can be flicked around by the pulley and make it look like just a gasket.
I hope that helps
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX thanks a lot sir .. i follow your video and i have replace my water pump alredy 😁
@@ahmadfirdaus3404 Well done!
It's a good feeling when you carry out a successful repair! 😊
I have vf commodore 2015 v6 strom
Thermostat change now my gauge playing and go to high.you think what’s the problem
Thank Mate
Hey Tristan Piano ,
Why was the thermostat changed? Is it possible that the temp sensor wire was knocked off during the thermostat replacement? Or perhaps squashed under something and now permanently earthed? Can you see on the scan tool what the engine temperature is? Is it always reading high as soon as you turn the ignition on? Is there a reset feature on the scan tool?
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be the 'engineering mode'
that was offered on the VE.
MiracleMAX
Hi max it's bushmech max again my holden rodeo v6 petrol has broke a idle pulley it's start up ok but how do I replace it
If you are referring to the drive belt idler pulley, it's just a matter of removing the belt and then undoing the nut on the pulley.
MAX I’ve caprice (Statesman) 2006 just like this one ☝️
Engine temperature is not stable I’ve changed everything
It might be the reason except head gasket .. no visual leaks appear to me .. what’s your advice please
So is it the temperature on the gauge that is not stable or can you see the temperature on a scan tool or perhaps a infrared thermometer?
How many Kilometres has the vehicle done?
Are both the cooling fans working?
Do you have oil in the coolant or coolant in the oil?
What have you actually changed and what led you to change them?
Has anything been done recently or when did you notice the change?
Are there any fault codes?
Is the coolant level correct & has the correct ratio of coolant/demineralised water been used?
Is the coolant being drawn back into the radiator from the overflow bottle?
Has all air been purged from the system?
Is the thermostat working correctly?
Is the water pump operating correctly?
Can you feel heat through the heater core?
Is the radiator in good condition?
Let us know how you go with these tests to see if there is something I might be missing.
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX
First of all thank you so much for replying .. I’m watching the temp. In dashboard gauge and also I have purchased OBD for this purpose
Vehicle has made 354000 km odo
Many years ago agency forgot to cap the water reservoir in summer time which caused overheating
After then problems have started like endless radiator had been changed twice water pump twice
Thermostat twice coolant is PEAK blue can 50/50 ratio no oil/water mixture fan coolers never been touched however I checked them twice in electrical shop nothing wrong with them both speed are working as they reported
Fusses never been changed
Every seven days I have to top up the radiator with one regular tea ☕️ cup
No leaks at all
If I started the AC in highway with Speed over 60 mph or in traffic the heat start increasing up to 108 c then the sound of coolers became higher like C-130 preparing for take off this is almost summarizing my situation with my chevy alloytic 6 cylinders and thanks in advance sir
- no fault cods
- always doing priming to get rid of trapped air inside cooling system
@@TyphoonJetPilotMeteb So what does the radiator look like externally? Any bugs or build up of weeds or debris? Make sure you check between the radiator and the condensor, not just the back side of the radiator.
The thermostat is at the back of the engine on these and are a pain to replace. Did you say it has been replaced twice?
Has the cap been replaced?
@@TyphoonJetPilotMeteb These are notorious for trapped air that can create havoc.
Try this method for bleeding the system.
ua-cam.com/video/Hn9qm69k44o/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Browney%27sGarage
What’s is torque spec of water pup nuts
Here are some torque specifications I found online that you might find useful
forums.justcommodores.com.au/threads/torque-settings.194621/
MiracleMAX
@@MiracleMAX thanks heaps
Hi good morninh
Good morning
Before my thermostat is leaking that’s why they change…
And totally overheated my engine. Idle on dashboard engine overheat.. thank you so much
@@tristanPHH So have you repaired the fault? Is it still overheating?
No.My gauge temperature is going to half.bit high a bit. Then back less than half gauge. My thermostat is fault again. I refill water 2L then i heard. The spring of my thermostat is faulty.
Thank you so much for time. You are legend