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Train operator talks exclusively with Eyewitness News about derailment

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  • Опубліковано 10 січ 2024
  • Andy Valentine was the train operator who was stationed in the lead car of a disabled train that plowed into another train full of passengers that derailed in New York City.
    Valentine was the "flagger" or lookout who had the job of telling the supervisor whether it was clear to proceed because the supervisor was driving the train from the 6th car and was unable to see ahead.
    In an exclusive interview, Valentine tells Eyewitness News Reporter N.J. Burkett that he saw the signals go red and he immediately radioed to the supervisor, who didn't respond and kept the train moving forward.
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  • @TheManny717
    @TheManny717 7 місяців тому +10

    As a train operator from the opposite coast, this is one of - if not - the worst situations we do not want to be in. Also, we do not condone people pulling the emergency handle just for either giggles or for realizing that they missed a stop for any reason, unless there’s really an emergency.

  • @frankiebats4thebronx
    @frankiebats4thebronx 7 місяців тому +21

    Stay strong Andy, You got my support fellow T/O God bless brother

    • @FREDERIECKJONHNNSON
      @FREDERIECKJONHNNSON 7 місяців тому

      ENERGY-RELATED MANAGE

    • @thedriver4038
      @thedriver4038 7 місяців тому

      He should be fired!

    • @pbatommy
      @pbatommy 7 місяців тому +1

      @@thedriver4038 For what? If anything, supervision should be jammed up for this debacle.

    • @manofwisdom000
      @manofwisdom000 7 місяців тому

      @@thedriver4038Fired for what? 💀

    • @thedriver4038
      @thedriver4038 7 місяців тому

      @@manofwisdom000 he put passenger's lives at risk.

  • @pr0phet
    @pr0phet 7 місяців тому +12

    Glad he's okay. Respect brother.

  • @jacquelinem.2948
    @jacquelinem.2948 7 місяців тому +8

    God bless you, Andy. You got this! Stay strong and think positive.

  • @fanatiquemusique
    @fanatiquemusique 7 місяців тому +5

    I don't think it was a good idea for this guy to speak to the media.

    • @DJCharlieB
      @DJCharlieB 7 місяців тому

      I’m surprised he did and surprised the MTA let him.

  • @babydollbutterflysarefree5312
    @babydollbutterflysarefree5312 7 місяців тому +8

    Very sad my daughter works for MTA stressful job GOTTA know what you're doing !!- bit nothing prepares you for THIS 🗣️🙏

  • @fok8810
    @fok8810 7 місяців тому +9

    wow glad hes okay

  • @kalelc1996
    @kalelc1996 7 місяців тому +6

    Thank God he's alright

  • @DJCharlieB
    @DJCharlieB 7 місяців тому +1

    Curious to know their SOP. Sounds like a restricted speed violation. You should always have more than one way to communicate and stop the train, especially during a shoving move. Sounds like another train should have tied on. Tunnels are infamous for dead spots on the radio and handhelds are horrible. Were the buzzers not working? If you cannot put a train into emergency from the end you are shoving, you shouldn’t make the move. Let’s see what the report says.

  • @Awesome_Aasim
    @Awesome_Aasim 7 місяців тому +3

    Passing a red signal is very serious on railways. There is a reason it is called a "danger" signal. Now the job of the NTSB will be to provide recommendations to avoid further signals passed at danger.

    • @podracer1552
      @podracer1552 6 місяців тому

      Signal Passed At Danger or SPAD.

  • @SerenityValentineToglia
    @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +10

    That's my uncle

  • @michaelwarzinski5078
    @michaelwarzinski5078 7 місяців тому +2

    This is what you call American Engineering! Worst subway systems out of anywhere on earth. New York and Chicago.

  • @eliza5960
    @eliza5960 7 місяців тому +4

    I am 70yo. I have been riding the subway since I was 9YO. This never happened! What is going on?

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому +3

      Sure it has .
      There has been many wrecks though out the years some deadly
      You have a bad memory

    • @naomiferreira8255
      @naomiferreira8255 7 місяців тому

      Bad behavior is the cause of all the problems these days.

    • @eobardthawne324
      @eobardthawne324 7 місяців тому

      ​@naomiferreira8255 Thats always been the case.

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому +1

      @@eobardthawne324 he's the fall guy

    • @eobardthawne324
      @eobardthawne324 7 місяців тому

      @@robertnussberger6449 I know.

  • @JdMsk
    @JdMsk 7 місяців тому +4

    Every signal doesn't need a radio contact with another motorman.
    Every signal is equipped with brake arm. The basics is only one train can present on the section protected by the signal and it's arm. The signal is red, the arm is up and it hits the brake arm on the train automatically if the train try to pass the red signal.
    If one train is on the section, on the switch, the other signals indicate red. If one train was in the section the signal for the other train must be red, the arm must be up and so on.
    Why do you talk about the vandals, but not signals?
    How one train did enter to the section where had already been the another train?
    Hello from France.

    • @Awesome_Aasim
      @Awesome_Aasim 7 місяців тому

      Signals are probably to blame here. The signals are over a century old and are in the process of being upgraded to CBTC. Some of the tripwires are worn as well and not functioning properly.

    • @dogmannz
      @dogmannz 7 місяців тому

      From what I understand, because they couldn't resent the brakes on the first 5 cars due to the emergency cords being vandalised (in those cars), they turned off the power (to those 5 cars). They then manually released the brakes (first 5 cars) which were then permanently off with no quick way to apply them.
      This meant they could then use the last 3 cars which still had power, to push the train at slow speed. This was the only way they could move the train quickly to get it out of the way at the start of rush hour. So with only 3 cars being powered they only had 3 cars that could brake all 8 cars of the train. What seems to have happened is they badly under estimated the way this would effect the trains ability to stop. @@Awesome_Aasim

    • @Awesome_Aasim
      @Awesome_Aasim 7 місяців тому

      @@dogmannz The focus of the investigation will probably be why the emergency brakes did not trip. Sure someone might have pulled them in one of the trainsets. But if they literally cut the air to the emergency brakes (as opposed to just releasing), which sounds like a really really bad idea, then federal investigators will find that.

    • @BottomLin3Op
      @BottomLin3Op 7 місяців тому +2

      The trip arm system does not work when a train with disabled brakes passes a red signal. The trip arm would not have stopped the train until car 6 where the TSS(train service supervisor) was operating.

    • @dogmannz
      @dogmannz 7 місяців тому

      @@BottomLin3Op sounds more like they tried applying the service brake on the last 3 cars and were surprised by how little stopping force it gave them

  • @jbkingesq9889
    @jbkingesq9889 7 місяців тому +1

    They should not have moved the train until they had full control of the brakes. The valves can be reset, it sounds like someone was in a hurry to get the train moving and out of the way. Also, if they had gotten back control of the brakes, a trip arm at the red signal would have initiated an emergency brake application even if the operator had not heard the signal to stop,

  • @user-mb3su1hv8z
    @user-mb3su1hv8z 7 місяців тому +2

    does he need to be speaking to his Lawyer

  • @margaritallove9596
    @margaritallove9596 7 місяців тому +2

    NYC train communication systems-speakers are the worse I have seen. I never hear anything whenever they make an announcement.
    Plain OLD communication systems, bad connections, too much noise, or just outdated.

  • @user-sd9cp5hg3c
    @user-sd9cp5hg3c 7 місяців тому +1

    How many times does this happen

    • @metropod
      @metropod 7 місяців тому

      So far… twice, about 54 years apart. Given the subway is turning 120 this year, this kind of incident isn’t as common as it seems.

  • @TheEmmochka
    @TheEmmochka 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't take trains for 4 years !!! Scary !!! To Old , please, build new Subway!! Shame to America!!! Doors always not working well ; stocking inside is terrible! You don't have no water , no toilet ! Absolutely unhumane 😢

    • @Ihonestlydek
      @Ihonestlydek 7 місяців тому

      Deal with it, thats how reality is. Harsh right?

  • @user-nb8px7ek3l
    @user-nb8px7ek3l 7 місяців тому

    Thank God he's ok, train operators in theses cities are 1st responders when are we are going to get that respect,

  • @ExotiKZBoy17
    @ExotiKZBoy17 7 місяців тому +6

    They need to remove those emergency cables from subway cars.

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому

      True

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому

      Federal law won't allow that

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому

      @@robertnussberger6449 oh why

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому +3

      @SerenityValentineToglia because as a nyc employee you never speak of any accident in public.
      It opens you and the city to lawsuits .
      The city is probably trying to blame him so he is coming out .
      Usually it the union rep that speak for employee in question

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому

      @SerenityValentineToglia federal law states that there must be a emergency brake on all trains

  • @robertnussberger6449
    @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому +2

    Sounds like they're trying to blame that guy

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +1

      How

    • @robertnussberger6449
      @robertnussberger6449 7 місяців тому +2

      @SerenityValentineToglia because he out on the news defending himself

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +1

      @@robertnussberger6449 oh true

    • @prfu1222
      @prfu1222 7 місяців тому

      That sounds about right. When MTA fires him. He can try to get a lawsuit. MTA has to blame someone. Oh my God if they were ever at fault for anything.

  • @nfn4
    @nfn4 7 місяців тому +2

    Nyc is out of control. You allow people to get off small crimes like cycling on sidewalks, etc. They then move up to subway emergency break pulling, petty, and grand larceny, and the list goes on.
    Total chaos in the city, it's already at the point of no return.

  • @thomasabramson100
    @thomasabramson100 7 місяців тому +2

    This used to happen almost everyday back in the 1970s Koch era a ride on the N that should take 45 minutes took an hour cause of all the times the brakes had to be reset

  • @newera5730
    @newera5730 7 місяців тому

    Always speak to your union when management asks you to do something I guarantee management gonna say we don’t have no idea he did this or that was the supervisor’s decision not ours management never takes blame

  • @bearwhite98
    @bearwhite98 7 місяців тому +2

    how much is the fare again ?

  • @MrGran95
    @MrGran95 7 місяців тому

    That front section should have had the PA system and the buzzer still working. Why weren’t they working?
    Did they electrically isolate the unit?? And if so why??
    If you can’t BCO the car from the top then BCO from the bottom of the train to stop the rupture of air coming from the car.
    Try to use all your means of communication. How can you rely on the radio only????
    That was a comedy of errors from an obviously rookie supervisor and crew. None of these guys worked the yards where that experience would have been picked up.

  • @sobercompanionnyc-losangeles
    @sobercompanionnyc-losangeles Місяць тому

    He sure threw the other operator under the train. A fellow Local 100 operator too. 👎🏻

  • @tinachambers1376
    @tinachambers1376 7 місяців тому +4

    Andy you such an handsome man ❤😊😊😊

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +3

      His my uncle

    • @drakesessions3544
      @drakesessions3544 7 місяців тому +2

      @tinachambers1376 Oh shit, you better start praying he not married, you got a family member watching you😂

  • @danielfigueroa4725
    @danielfigueroa4725 7 місяців тому

    Why is this guy talking with the news its an on going investigation. He just admits he didnt tell them to "Stop" he told them to slow me down, slow me down", "Stop the train."

  • @TonyBoutHisMoney
    @TonyBoutHisMoney 7 місяців тому

    I work for MTA and my boy is doing all the wrong things with this interview

    • @manofwisdom000
      @manofwisdom000 7 місяців тому

      What?

    • @TonyBoutHisMoney
      @TonyBoutHisMoney 7 місяців тому

      @@manofwisdom000 You will see how it plays out. I’m not saying much on the internet. But this guy got people talking.

  • @SonGokuSann
    @SonGokuSann 7 місяців тому +3

    Eso es mi tio

  • @liveeric2631
    @liveeric2631 7 місяців тому

    4:25 lawsuit if they fired him

  • @Dude-rb7fq
    @Dude-rb7fq 7 місяців тому

    “I’m riding with the thunder chief…”

  • @user-sd9cp5hg3c
    @user-sd9cp5hg3c 7 місяців тому

    Can the passengers get their fare refunded?

  • @nscaledelights
    @nscaledelights 7 місяців тому

    Wow someone got thrown under the train it wasn't Andy either.

  • @user-sd9cp5hg3c
    @user-sd9cp5hg3c 7 місяців тому +1

    Andy gonna get a loiyah before he decides what really happened

  • @perrrofrrredy
    @perrrofrrredy 7 місяців тому

    I may have missed it. But why was there a train crossing Alex’s train if there isn’t a train that crosses in front of the 1 train at 96th street. The 1 train is on the local track. Maybe i’m missing something

    • @stez-nq4hs
      @stez-nq4hs 7 місяців тому +1

      From my understanding the in service 1 was on the express track (Im assuming to bypass the out of service 1 that was stuck) then after 96 street station (could be before) when the in service 1 train going back on the local track i guess that where both collided. I may be wrong could be the opposite what I wrote. I hope someone who has better knowledge what happened can clarify

    • @Dezlite
      @Dezlite 7 місяців тому +1

      The 1 train that was Out of service was on the local track. The one that was IN service (that had the passengers) was EXPRESS, and it attempted to switch from Express to local to head to the 103 St station. If it does not switch, its going to head to Central Park-110 St Station which is on the 2 and 3 line.

    • @kenqwe04
      @kenqwe04 7 місяців тому +1

      Alex's train was out of service. The other number ones routed around it on the express track and then put back to the local.

    • @perrrofrrredy
      @perrrofrrredy 7 місяців тому

      @@Dezlite makes sense now. Thank you

  • @dogmannz
    @dogmannz 7 місяців тому

    This guy needs psychological help if he genuinely thought he was going to be killed by a tiny little ding like this. Yes people got minor injuries but the worst that was going to happen in a low speed collision like this is exactly what did happen.
    This guy sounds like a paranoid cry baby.

  • @ultimatetruthteller4169
    @ultimatetruthteller4169 7 місяців тому

    Dude…… stop crying 😂😂😂

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +8

      Excuse me, that's not funny, and this is sad bc his my uncle and he almost died and plus he has a family and this shi is serious

    • @ultimatetruthteller4169
      @ultimatetruthteller4169 7 місяців тому

      @@SerenityValentineToglia oh…. Sorry. I don’t know much about trains. I’m a doorman😬

    • @jacquelinem.2948
      @jacquelinem.2948 7 місяців тому +1

      How dare you? If he were you you’d be crying even worse, so don’t talk!

    • @ultimatetruthteller4169
      @ultimatetruthteller4169 7 місяців тому

      @@jacquelinem.2948 but I said sorry. I always wanted to drive train

    • @SerenityValentineToglia
      @SerenityValentineToglia 7 місяців тому +1

      @ultimatetruthteller4169 it's ok but I don't want people to be saying other things