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Prophet Rev2 Soundset - VCM Voice Component Modeled Patch Bank - 128 New Patches
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Demo of about twenty patches from the VCM bank (128 patches total in the bank). To purchase this patch bank, go to SellFy: sellfy.com/p/f...
Voice Component Modeling (VCM) - I spent several months analyzing classic synthesizers and acoustic analog instruments, to try and find out what objectively gives them their "character" that some modern synthesizers don't have. I recorded hundreds of samples from classic VCO synths like the OBX, OBXA, Prophets, Yamaha CS80, MemoryMoog, Jupiter 4, Jupiter 8, and others... The common thread between all of them is that there are voice-by-voice offsets to each voice in these polyphonic instruments. These offsets are a result of voice boards having discreet electrical components that are never perfectly matched. The small variance between electrical performance on a voice by voice basis causes small offsets to fine tuning, envelope speeds, and various other parameters. When you play a chord, you get all these small offsets that create natural phasing / detuning / temporal offsets, creating a more lush, organic sound. Modern synths are often "too perfect" with too much parity between tuning and other parameters, giving them a more sterile or harsh sound.
Advanced Modulation with the Rev2 Mod Matrix / Gated Seq
I realized that with the advanced modulation capabilities of the Prophet Rev2, along with a creative usage of the gated sequencer, that this type of unique voice-by-voice behavior can be modeled within the Rev2 synthesizer... and it works great!
Some Free Example Patches
I have uploaded some free example patches at the link below. (the ones with VCM in the title)
www.presetpatc...
More Info About Voice Component Modeling:
I wrote up a paper documenting my findings here: www.VoiceCompon...
The Official Prophet Rev2 Forum has an extensive discussion here: forum.sequenti...
More Articles About the Topic Here:
www.presetpatc...
A SoundSet for the Prophet Rev2
This product is a digital download... It is a patch bank for the Prophet Rev2 keyboard or Prophet Rev2 rack unit. It will be delivered as a .sysex patch bank with 128 patches.
There are many classic analog synth sounds, including basses, leads, synths, keys, analog strings, analog brass, pads and others. My focus was on creating sounds useful to songwriters or soundtrack composers. I'm a big fan of classic rock, new wave, 80s, alt rock, atmospheric and electronica. Lots of those type of sounds. In addition, I have included many acoustic instrument emulations, including electric pianos (Rhodes, Wurli, Unique), wind instruments (flutes, trumpets, horns), string instruments (violins, violas, ensemble) and organs.
Many programs use layer stacks to achieve bigger sound, wider stereo image, or more complex multi-timbral sound design.
Expressive, Dynamic Patches
Almost all patches have perfomance modulations programmed in, using pressure and modulation wheel assignments to allow for dynamic performances. Dig into the keys, and you'll get vibrato, or other unique modulations to give your playing additional character. Some patches have significant multi-parameter changes through the sweep of the mod wheel or expression pedal. Expression pedal is highly recommended! On many of the patches I have completely maxed out the Rev2's extensive modulation matrix and performance modulation parameters.
Digital Download, Sales Terms
This product is a digital download only. You will receive a .sysex soundbank file. This file is only for use with the Prophet Rev2 Keyboard or Rack unit. Once purchased, there are no refunds or exchanges available. You agree to not copy, redistribute or resell any of the patches in this product. They are copyrighted and licensed for your use only.
To purchase this patch bank, go to this SellFy link:
sellfy.com/p/f...
0:00 BRS Vangelis Blade Runner Brass
1:26 KEY Electric Piano Submarine
1:59 BRS Slow Somber Brass
2:36 KEY EP Radiohead Everything in it's Right Place
2:58 PAD Discovery 5 Pad
3:38 BRS Van Halen Jump Synth Brass
4:15 STR MMoog Swell
5:17 BRS Dynamic Trumpet
5:35 KEY Electric Piano Led Zeppelin No Quarter
5:55 PAD Astral Choir
7:04 STR Rush Subdivisions
7:33 SYN Wind Vox
8:17 BRS VCO Brass Slow
8:57 KEY Pluck Bow
9:40 BRS Flanger 2059
10:48 BAS Natural
11:24 BRS Dynamic Flute
11:54 LED-P Prog Organ
12:25 ORG Pipe Organ
13:18 BAS Myxomatosis
13:49 SYN GX1 Led Zeppelin All My Love
14:15 LED-M MoogSync
14:35 KEY Super Clav
14:46 STR MegaPWM
15:16 PAD Prophet 5
Lots of people are selling synth patches. Some are very good. Jason's VCM patches are on another level and even with a VST editor I am scratching my head as to how some patches are doing what they are doing. This is synthesizer knowledge and understanding way ahead of most patch makers. I dont think anybody else, including Sequential, is utilising the power of the Rev 2 to this extent. Well done Sir!
Forgetting my to-do list for today, reading your explanations and switching on my Rev2 ...
Thank you so much for your outstanding work!
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Edit: Dave Smith, hire this man! He‘s a genius!
Jason Cooper has to be one of the most incredible sound designers especially how he brings out the beauty of the Rev 2. Money well spent. Thank you for your work in expanding the Rev 2. awesome patches, Im a very happy customer.
Thanks Rob!
This is absolutely brilliant, I've been reading all your suggested literature over the last 2 days and, WOW. Just what I was after for taking my REV2 to the next level. Thank you so much, Jason. Keep the videos coming as well, your tutorial was great.
I recently purchased this patch bank and would wholeheartedly recommend you to do the same! It brings a whole host of very organic and unique sounding patches to the Rev2, all around a great toolbox for composition and songwriting.
Jason was also very helpful with a request I had about the user bank configuration, please support this man and his fantastic work!
Thanks Lex! Glad you're enjoying the sounds.
Just installed this patch bank, and I'm simply blown away at how amazing they sound. Can't wait to start retrofitting my own patches with your VCM technique. I was already in love with my Rev2 but didn't realize just how amazing it could be. Seriously. Thank you!
Awesome! Glad you're enjoying the sounds! Thanks for the note. Cheers, Jason
I am constantly being surprised at how versatile the REV2 is. This soundset is rad!
Thanks Robark! Yeah, versatile is the truth!... this board can do it all.
Thank you! Incredible OBX sounds. I bought this pack also to say thanks for your Blade Runner sound tutorial. The best REV2 tutorial in the web, it will help me a lot!.
Thanks for the note Yo! Hope you enjoy the soundset!
I just stumbled upon this "Voice Component Modeling" technique and I'm shocked at how it adds life to the sound of the Rev2. Impressive.
Thanks for the note Kacy! Glad you're enjoying it! Cheers
"Voice Component Modeling" is a brilliant piece of work! I bought the soundset and use it regularly-highly recommended!
Thanks Roy!! Glad you're enjoying the soundset!
well this has got to be the best patch set i've heard so far
Thanks Besem!
Sounds awesome! 😎
I got Jason's patches at the link above. It was super quick and hassle-free. Great work sir; highly recommended!
Awesome! Thanks Peter!
Damn, these are some of the best Rev2 patches I’ve heard. I’ve been on the fence about picking up a Rev2 or P6. The Rev2 seems to have so much potential depending on how much you really dig into it
Thanks! Yeah, the Rev2 is one of the most powerful/versatile analog poly synths on the market... really, 2nd only to the Moog One in terms of capabilities. The P6 is a great board as well, with excellent core sound, but not nearly as versatile... having 16 voices, and bi-timbral sound stacking makes the Rev2 a whole different beast... not to mention all the modulation/sequencing/lfos/envs, etc...
@@CreativeSpiral Yeah that’s my dilemma the core sound of the P6 is really great. After reading about your VCM techniques it’s quite clever, now I understand why your patches sound great. The slight differences in tuning can really add some width and depth to the sound. To have that added warmth and depth along with the brighter inherit nature of the Rev2 makes its sound amazing.
These sound fantastic, Jason. Great work again. Insta-buy.
Thanks, absolutely brilliant! Bought them straight away ;-).
These patches sound very rich and useful! Great channel!
Thanks dude!
These are great! Great playing to! Love your song selections
Awesome work!
Just purchased this. I got lost in the pad sounds for hours! It really feels like I'm taking advantage of the Rev2's mod capabilities.
Thanks bud! Yeah, the pads are some of my favorites in the sound set... they ooze with vintage vibe from the voice modeling offsets. Cheers!, Jason
Hi, Just got my Rev2 yesterday, so I haven't even listened to all the factory patches yet. So far, many of them seem to be 'hey, look at what crazy sounds I can make this instrument make' But I'm looking for more usable sounds for classic stuff like The cars, Gary Newman, the Cure, etc. This seems to be "Just what I Needed".
Congrats on the Rev2. Amazing synth. Let the Good Times Roll!
Wish I could hear them all. VERY nice !
Steeply priced, but bought nonetheless because of your great endeavours with VCM. Well done!
$35 is cheap, considering that the effort that went into these patches
I disagree. There is some serious work gone into these patches.
awsome work! sold ^^ Thanks :D
Thanks Arno! Hope you enjoy the sound bank!
@@CreativeSpiral will have plenty of time to chill with it ;)
I can't stop adding your slow jump preset to everything I'm making at the moment. It's like adding salt to a meal!
Nice! I love that patch... it was one of the last ones I added into the sound bank. The voice modeling is based on measurements I took from an Oberheim OBX... and the patch is actually a derivative of the Van Halen Jump patch I created... I spent like 10 hours on that patch, and then when I was finishing up the bank, I experimented with changing the envelopes and modulation a bit and came up with the "SlowJump" Brass/Pad. Anyways, thanks for the note - Glad you're enjoying it! I just got lost for 20 minutes on a live jam incorporating it ;)
@@CreativeSpiral Hi Creative Spiral. I'm pleased to see that you're still responding to comments here (too many people running YT Channels do not follow-up on their older posts).
I sincerely hope that you, your family & friends are doing well & staying healthy during these scary times!
A couple of quick questions:
1. This soundset totally blows me away, so I'm wondering if you're thinking of doing as second soundset for the Prophet Rev.2 Do you plan on doing another?
2. I am no expert with sound design or synth architecture, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that both the Beringer Deepmind 12 & the Oberheim Matrix 6/6r/1000 have extensive mod-matrix functions like the Prophet Rev.2. Have you considered applying the deep understanding & impressive skills you demonstrate in this Rev.2 soundset to make patch sets for the Deepmind 12, Matrix 6/6r/1000, and other synths with similar mod-matrix capabilities?
Thanks, and stay safe & well ! ☺
@@derekbaker3279 Hey Derek - thanks for the note - doing well :) Glad you're enjoying the soundset! Yes, I am working on two different banks currently: One for the Pro 3 and a second bank for the Rev 2. I do have a Deepmind, and yes, you can achieve a limited sort of voice modeling with DM by using the Voice Number mod source. Here's an article explaining it: www.presetpatch.com/articles/Voice-Component-Modeling-with-Behringer-Deepmind
Ha! It certainly pulls you in. Thanks for taking the time to make them. It has made the isolation even more enjoyable!
@@CreativeSpiral Thank you! ☺ I'm thrilled that you are working on more patches for the Rev.2, and I'm looking forward to hearing the results for the awesome Pro 3, although it's not going to be a purchase for me in the foreseeable future.
Thank you for the link to the article. I read it & I think I understood it...lol...I haven't ever dug deep into synth architecture or sound design, so I'll have to learn more now! ☺.
Given how effective VCM has proven to be, is this something that could be added to synths via additions to firmware, or would a hardware change be required? Are there any commercially available synths that use VCM in their design & coding? I can't imagine anyone not wanting this improvement in the sound of an analogue synth.
Thanks again for you prompt reply! ☺
Fantastic !
Only issue one may have is they won't be able to use the Poly Sequencer with these if I'm not mistaken.
I was wondering about this
Hey Jason, great work you are doing here, I actually re-bought a Rev2, partially due to your research. Are you still planning a second patch collection? If so what type of sound pallette are you going for?
Thanks Jim! Yeah, I’ve been working on new patches… a combination of vintage voice modeling patches and stacked mod sequencer patches that show off what the Rev2 is capable of with the new OS 1.1.5.9.9
Also, FYI: if you’re gotten my original VCM patch bank, I recommend updating to the new OS… the vintage VCM patches, and stereo stacks sound even better with latest OS.. more nuanced per voice character, where some of the programming I had done previously was being skipped … now the sequencer correctly advances through all the steps and gets all the details…
These sound amazing and I will be grabbing them after I pull the trigger on a Rev 2. I'm curious, are you playing on a 8 or 16 voice here?
I'm on the fence between the two.
Thanks Johnny! I have a 16-voice. The patches will sound the same on 8 voice, but you may get voice stealing on some of the sounds that are stacked layers. When playing a stacked patch on 8-voice, that means there is effectively 4-voices... so for more complex chord play, or patches with longer release times, the note ends may be cut off. I definitely recommend the 16-voice, primarily for this reason... you can play stacked/layered patches and not worry about voice stealing. Note: voice stealing is not always a bad thing.. it has a characteristic sound to it and can sometimes even sound less muddy for certain playing scenarios... but generally its better to have the voices available.
@@CreativeSpiral Thanks for the helpful reply. I'm leaning towards the 16.
@@CreativeSpiral I got the 16 voice yesterday!!! I tried loading your free patches but I can't find them in any programs/banks. Where should I be looking?
@@daydreamjohnny For the free VCM template patches, they load into U4-117 and U4-118 by default, and I believe the Blade Runner patch loads to U1-17, unless you use a librarian program, in which case you can specify a location. www.presetpatch.com/f/DSI-Prophet-Rev2/VCM_Basic5V_Vint_'80_syx www.presetpatch.com/f/DSI-Prophet-Rev2/VCM_Basic5V_Vint_'85_syx www.presetpatch.com/f/DSI-Prophet-Rev2/BRS_Vangel_VCM_syx
@@daydreamjohnny Congrats on the synth!
If you have some time to share your thoughts, I was wondering about your opinion of the Rev 2 (Using VCM) in comparison to other modern analog polysynths for achieving retro sounds. I am in the market for a synth at or under $2k. This technique seems to add a lot to the Rev 2 and is very impressive
I highly recommend the Rev2. I've got a Poly Evolver, Prophet 6, and Polybrute as well, but if I could only choose one, it would be the Rev2.
These sounds are awesome, I’m definitely going to purchase this and the sound editor when I get my Rev 2 in the mail. Would you by chance be doing one for the Bass Station 2 as well?
Thanks! I haven’t done much sound design on BS2
@@CreativeSpiral I dove chest first into synthesis and got a bs2 and Rev 2 combo and the bs2 came first, it sounds great but I’m not very good at synthesis yet. Doyou have any videos on learning how to program sounds in general to get started? It feels like the littlest twiddling of a knob drastically changes an entire sound
@@vincenzoaquila167 I haven't done an overview video like that, but maybe will do so in the future. I think there probably are videos like this on UA-cam, and there are some good books on the subject. Welsh's Synthesizer Cookbook is one that gives a good broad overview, with some examples.
I plan on buying a set soon. Is there a way I can reach you with questions? thanks !
Hey, I'm looking to emulate some OB-X OB-Xa pads in the Rev2. Is there any of that in this bank? Where can i hear it? Thanks. Best regards
Basically, I want to recreate this pad sound from de OB-8 ua-cam.com/video/0dgyUpDDZnY/v-deo.html (see at 14:48) and I haven't managed to program it.
Yeah, there's a lot of OB8/ OBX/OBXA inspired sounds in this set... ie: modeling eight voices with distinct offsets per voice. In regards to the specific patch you linked to, looks to be a slow brass/pad type of sound using the OB8 2-pole filter. The filters on the Rev2 are a little different, but you could definitely get close to that sound on Rev2. There are 16 pads and 16 brass sounds included in this set... not sure if any are exactly like that, but there are a few that could be modified to match the envelope/filter sound fairly close.
@@CreativeSpiral Thanks for your quick reply. if I can get close to that sound it would be pretty nice. Surely the OB-6 can get a little closer, but it also couldn't imitate it 100% due to the SEM chips it has. As soon as I get my Rev2 back from the repair shop I will buy the soundset. Best regards
hello i‘d like to buy your 128 voice component modelling patch bank, but i dont have paypal no more.. can i pay with visa debit as well? beat regards heinz
Hi Heinz - thanks for your interest. YES - If you click the add to cart, and checkout, and continue to the first paypal screen, there's an option there at the bottom of page, below the login, to "Pay with Debit or Credit Card"
are you using any compression,reverb/eq in the video or is this direct out from the prophet?
All sounds are recorded straight from the Rev2... no outboard effects or compression.
@@CreativeSpiral sounds amazing
what am i doing wrong? i cant install the patches... i just updated my rev2 via C6 USB connection to the latest firmware, and then i wanted to send the patch files, but they are not showing up in the rev2 Userbank3?
nevermind! i had to set the midi input to USB again.. :D
Hope you enjoy the patches! Let me know what you think. Cheers, Jason
What plugin are you using for the Rev 2?
The SoundTower Standalone Editor is what I use for a patch librarian, and for more advanced editing... like the Voice Modeling stuff I have done. I've found that it makes doing this type of advanced patch creation quicker. (note: not the VST plugin version, but the full ST Editor program)
Hi. Can these patches be installed into any user bank? I do have the SoundTower software.
Hey, sorry for the late response... just noticed this msg feel through cracks. For the downloads on Sellfy, there are two different versions, saved in U3 and U4 banks respectively, that you can directly load via any sysex program. But yes, if you have SoundTower editor you can load them to any bank you choose. Thanks for your interest. Cheers, Jason
Excellent, thanks for the reply