Yeah, this was dumb. Even if he just wanted to return to his former master and work for room and board, who was stopping him? Why did he need Daenerys' permission to go back to the arrangement that, it seems, both he and his former master wanted?
@heatedbreezefalloutdaily7108 you can still call the TV show out for dumb writing? The producers clearly wanted to show the viewer that daeneris means well, but she is a bit gullible in interrupting the order of things. But to use this excample is just shit.
I live in a military town and a lot of young soldiers panic right before the discharge they've been waiting for and reenlist. The fear of the unknown, of having to pay your own bills and remember everything and learn everything that an institution did "for you" now later in life, is difficult and scary. That fear results in a lot of military careers. Plenty of people are willing to spend their lives as indentured servants if they don't have to face the new and scary- and this is NOT THEIR FAULT. The military has predatory recruitment practices and predatory retainment practices. They recruit kids not old enough to drink and then prevent them from learning the life skills necessary to get away. My boyfriend was discharged 5 days ago and he got overwhelmed going grocery shopping for the first time. He's doing a great job and doing it scared :)
Thailand has abolished slavery in 1905, but many slaves preferred to stayed with their old masters. Make no mistake, most of them left for their new life, especially those who lived under abusive masters, but our culture back then used slaves as more of the servants and footman of the estate, which means decent housing and rations of rices, fishes, and vegetables. There were slaves who served the same family for many generations, practically a family line that ran parallel with their master’s bloodline My great grandmother was a slave owner and while she wasn’t against the abolishment, she was proud of it to the day she died. To owned slaves and took good care of them back then was a sign your family is rich and influential.
Safety, room, board, a sense of accomplishment, snd what sounds like love, many would be hard pressed not to want to return to that. It sounds a lot like marriage….not my marriage, mine sucked, I would have preferred what this man wants to return to
@ I mean, some households let their slaves make a trip to visit their family outside once in a while, and they actually returned. That’s said a lot about social dynamics in the estate
That is what Margery would have done. Queen Margery would have been wise and her husband King Tommen good. So sad they both died in that tragic explosion.
@@barbarabenoit3667 Margaery would had come to them, talked, knowing them and their wishes. inspiring them to be useful and keep their love. Daenerys just give them freedom and i feed you and keep safe... but didnt care about them as individuals. notice she talk to them in audiences, while margaery went to their places, talked to the commoners as normal people. I kinda wish, margaery did the walk of shame... instead the people would turn their backs in a sign of respect. making a different scenary against cerseis walk. Plus later on a plot of commoners revolting against cersei been queen, could happen
there is a wonderful anime called how a realist hero saved the kingom. one episode a young man inherits his fathers slave business. in order to help them he set about teaching them so they could go as free people to good jobs. the king (hero) goes in undercover and tries to buy the last slave, but she refuses, prefering to stay with her master/friend. The king was actually testing him. And gives him a big chunk of money to open a school for adults to learn new skills as part of his many many reforms. its worth a watch as it breaks down some interesting facets of running a country.
Surely his former master and him could have just done that anyway. “Hey Bob I can’t own you anymore. I’m just gonna give you 5 gold a week and we keep the same deal ok?” Can’t be a very good teacher if he couldn’t figure that out.
Or he could have just done it for room and board, it's weird to me that his former master felt the need to kick him out if he couldn't literally own him anymore
@@capnkirk5528Man you're self righteous. Most people are just trying to survive a system that's stacked against them to begin with. Also your votes aren't any different than your opposition's, as you want to force your will on others just the same. The fact you think voting to empower the "right" candidates into an authoritarian system has anything to do with freedom is sad. You're the same as the ones you hate
"Freedom means making your own choice." That is the truth. A contract is what a slavery could never do, service for payment. Genuine freedom to choose what you do for what price. Not just for home and food. The old man suffers from stockholm syndrom.
Stockholm Syndrome isn't actually a thing ;). But he wants to go back to what he knows. And it seems obvious that as far as slave master go, he had a great deal of luck.
Probably not SS. he is obviously educated as he was deemed fit to educate the children of Masters. He is just old, and realizes that although he is free now, he didn't have such a bad gig as far as slaves go. He wasn't a worker, or a pit fighter. Just a teacher, probably respected and comfy enough. Poor guy probably has nothing or no one. Having no purpose is tough on a man
@@mickeyb4412 No, it clearly wasn't. Just look at the bible, God specifically says you can take people from captured villages as PERMANENT slaves for life. Also, all their decendents.
I don't understand his situation. It sounds like he and his former master both want to return to their previous arrangement of their own accord, no slavery necessary. So what's stopping them?
In the end, GRRM showed us that he had absolutely no idea how to write a satisfying ending. And now, with how poorly the later seasons did, I doubt he ever will..
She was naive if she thought that freedom alone would make the people happy and prosperous. Like, the moment she left the city it went right black to their former ways. She means good, but her rule is still through Fear, of her army and her dragons.
The writing was on the wall since the first season. She had moments like this, but she also had many many many bloodthirsty moments. Like when she nailed all the people to crosses, even the innocent ones.
If anyone has seen the Shawshank Redemption, this man is the same as the prisoner who worked the library. Its all he'd known, in a changing world. He'd rather be locked up and be happy, than to be alone and miserable or treated poorly.
No he missed having a task and teach the children. He do not miss to be a slave but to teach. He should been a teacher to all children and not to his former masters children. The privilegued works to conserve their wealth not for the good of the society.
@@morgianasartre6709 Thats why the solution is for them to make a yearly contract that renews that offers his services in exchange for food care and shelter. We have this now, they're called live-in nannies, live-in butlers, etc. Effectively nothing changes, but the label and ownership does as well as protecting the worker from abuse.
No. I’m sorry but there is no way he had respect as a slave. A slave is a thing you own. A thing you can hurt or kill any time you want. That is not respect. If he was respected, his master would have freed him ages ago. In current situation, all that was needed was for the old master to hire him. Maybe offer lodging, even if only for a short time. But he did not do that. Rather he left him to live in the streets. Is that respect?
@@theodorsik You have a wrong picture of slavery. In most countries that have practiced slavery in history it was actually forbidden to wantonly kill or maim your slaves. Even they had rights. Especially during the time of the roman republic/empire slavery was something that came with rights because it was a legal status. As for your point about the former master hiring the teacher, you might overlook something. Institutions shape thinking, the former master might not have even thought about hiring the former slave back as a private teacher, because the concept was foreign to him. But the clip shows how naive Daenerys was, just coming in and abolishing institutions is less than halfway to actually getting rid of them. If you can't offer a replacement almost immediately, you might just as well not even tried.
@@theodorsik your awfully opinionated for someone who has probably never suffered a day in her life. It’s not surprising. You don’t understand difficult decisions or the multifaceted nature of the decision before this poor old man. I wouldn’t expect someone from a life of comfort to understand such a difficult decision.
This same thing happened to many freed slaves in America. They became “sharecroppers” whom continued to work the land in exchange for staying. It’s crazy that even today, generations later some of their descendants still stay on these properties and the difference in wealth between them and the families they are tied to is devastating.
given the size of that particular queendom, it's probably more like a county seat or governor. *shrug* when you upend the entire economic system and those you were trying to help are struggling harder, you owe it to them to listen to at least a leader among them about their needs.
There is something special about G.O.T. The series encapsulates life in general. This scene portrays that people really love their chains. You can free people unless they are ready to be freed.
Personally, I think that the man just got attached to the children, and was sad to leave. Understandable... it's impossible to be in charge of children like that, and feel nothing...
When the people of Israel escaped their slavery in Egypt, whenever there was a problem, they said let's go back to Egypt. Living in a cage does mean you also get fed. This is one of the less spoken about reasons they had to wonder in the wilderness for 40 years. Slavery was all they had known and so they could not fight for their promised land. Their children had to be the ones to grow up in freedom so they would have no memory of living in a cage and being fed by masters.
42:32 After seeing what these look like, I have just realized there is a very large, unlabeled lowhead dam in the nearby river. This area is popular in summer for kayaking and fishing. Yikes. Edit: is there any way to request/ petition for warnings to be posted around this dam?
Sadly this happens all the time, mainly with long term jail time. It's all people know, and they can't handle anything else so they do everything they can to return to what they know and feel safe in even if that system is not normal.
Well let me build a school for you to become a teacher for all children in our city and give you a home within this school so you are no longer living on the street. At least that's what I'd have done to help him see a new way in freedom. 😂❤
It wasn’t having freedom that was the issue here. Dany tried to abolish slavery overnight in a city where the economy was built on and based on slavery without offering any alternative ways to ensure the economy continued to prosper instead of falling apart. She was just a conqueror who wanted to be hero-worshipped. A real ruler would’ve had proper plans in place to protect the newly freed people and keep the economy afoat once slavery had been abolished. Dany sucked at ruling and was never suited for any throne.
The huge problem in the world of Westeros and Essos is really education. The Center of knowledge is the Citadel and yet for some reason they withhold education to the world and only to a select few The nobles only know the art of war and politics while the rest rule their kingdoms based on history, instinct and experience If science, economics and philosophy is widely taught, that time period would be a better place That’s why every one of them never deserved to rule anything no matter how we loved them.
I totally understand the psychology behind his position and the narrative whatever of having someone trying to return to their chains. It’s an interesting and nuance scene. What I don’t get, is why he doesn’t just become a live-in servant? That’s totally a thing. If he really loves this role so much, he could accept food and shelter as the wages for the exact same outcome, and it’s not any more or less expensive for his former master
I wouldn't take him back as a teacher if he wasn't cognizant enough to figure out how to be a teacher without being a slave. What am I without being a slave? A person who can still do the same thing just for money, or volunteer to do it. You don't have to be enslaved to do the things you were doing before. The fact that he can't understand that shows he's not the one to be teaching anyone even simple lessons.
Widespread political change is something that takes decades, if not centuries, Dany learned that Mereen. And if I remember correctly the second she left to invade Westeros everything she built in slavers bay collapsed back into the old ways.
Slavery and indentured servitude are very similar but actually still a bit different. Slavery- no choice, not a person, abused, given nothing in return Indentured servitude- not a person, your choice (usually), not usually abused, given food/shelter In exchange for work
@MissG_clip I'm sorry a city watch is too advanced for high middle age technology fantasy land? Or is it assigning people useful jobs? The concepts we have used since before we were using tools? Hell actual monkeys do this with some having specific "jobs"
In a study of the civil war of America. There were many former slaves that starved to death because they could not adjust and adapt to being FREE . Many also chose to return to their former " owners " as servitude contracts. They made similar arrangements with former slave owners. Research yourself you will see that everything you have heard was not true. Many owners of slaves incorporated them into their own family. Cared for them and treated the children as family members. Educated them as their own. 😢😊
Literally all that was needed was his old master start oaying him sellary and maybe offer a place to stay. Funny how his quality of teacher and love of the children was nit enough for the father to treat him as a free person.
The concept of paid work is so foreign of an idea to a culture that used slaves for pretty much everything that it wouldn't have even come to mind as an option. Dany, of course, could have suggested it, which is what I think she did with the contract.
its a poorly written series overall. makes it worse that it was written after reign of fire, which uses strategy that they could have used in GOT if JRR was smart enough to realize how many times he put a dragon, in a valley, with high peaks above it. if youre wondering, dragons in most media dont look up because they dont have to. therefore, massive blind spot.this holds true in GOT and in one of the most important battles, they could have hit the dragon from above because it was on the ground, in a valley. JRR is fiction for morons.
Some slaves in the USA didnt want to be freed either because their lives were so much better than in africa, even tho thoses are 1 in a million situations. you will always have someone resistant to change. Slavery is bad, regardless on how you look at it. even economically slaves arent viable long term. superpowers after supowerpowers have tried and failed (many have fallen as a result as well)
In Philosophy there is a concept that is use to debate progress, the concept of a fence in the middle of nowhere that no one put there so no one knows why is there. Progressive people want to take that fence away because limits freedom and what not, Conservative people wanna keep it, so then when that fence is removed problems start to emerge and society tries to fix them until they realize that putting a fence it is the best solution, so they end up rebuilding the same fence that they destroyed.
ok you can sell your self to your form master but the contract is only 24h. why did his master think he needed to leave? did his children no longer need a teacher? why does the fact that he can leave mean that he can't stay?
That’s what true freedom is be free to choice to be a slave if you wish it he grant the freedom to choose what life he wants he wanted to return to what he knew i believe history say some slave back when Lincoln freed them also choose to stay while other ram as fast and for as long as they could but it still the point of freedom they had the choice it was their choice it wasn’t taken from he made a choice
I don't get why he could have just been hired back a fee that's what happened in most irl cases of freed slaves that didn't know what to do and it was an often abusive system but if this man was really so useful you think the room and board plus a small amount of pay could ha e sorted this issue out
Have him be a teacher and teach and discipline the young .. the slaves didnt have education. This didnt have to go this way. But i see D didnt see that as an option
I swear are jobs not a thing. It's been awhile since i read or watched it but not once does she I decree that people can go back to what they were doing and just being paid for it
Homie... you can work for your former master, he's just gotta pay now.
Right? Has he never heard of employment? He is just an old fool set on the old ways. Which will die out with him and his master.
Yeah, this was dumb. Even if he just wanted to return to his former master and work for room and board, who was stopping him? Why did he need Daenerys' permission to go back to the arrangement that, it seems, both he and his former master wanted?
He can literally just pay him in room, board and food. Why wouldn't this be ok
@@leerzeichn93 You guys realize this is just a tv show right lol
@heatedbreezefalloutdaily7108 you can still call the TV show out for dumb writing? The producers clearly wanted to show the viewer that daeneris means well, but she is a bit gullible in interrupting the order of things. But to use this excample is just shit.
Sometimes what’s familiar feels safest . Freedom offers choices which can be overwhelming when you’ve never been able to choose for yourself before.
I live in a military town and a lot of young soldiers panic right before the discharge they've been waiting for and reenlist. The fear of the unknown, of having to pay your own bills and remember everything and learn everything that an institution did "for you" now later in life, is difficult and scary. That fear results in a lot of military careers.
Plenty of people are willing to spend their lives as indentured servants if they don't have to face the new and scary- and this is NOT THEIR FAULT.
The military has predatory recruitment practices and predatory retainment practices. They recruit kids not old enough to drink and then prevent them from learning the life skills necessary to get away.
My boyfriend was discharged 5 days ago and he got overwhelmed going grocery shopping for the first time. He's doing a great job and doing it scared :)
Thailand has abolished slavery in 1905, but many slaves preferred to stayed with their old masters. Make no mistake, most of them left for their new life, especially those who lived under abusive masters, but our culture back then used slaves as more of the servants and footman of the estate, which means decent housing and rations of rices, fishes, and vegetables. There were slaves who served the same family for many generations, practically a family line that ran parallel with their master’s bloodline
My great grandmother was a slave owner and while she wasn’t against the abolishment, she was proud of it to the day she died. To owned slaves and took good care of them back then was a sign your family is rich and influential.
Safety, room, board, a sense of accomplishment, snd what sounds like love, many would be hard pressed not to want to return to that. It sounds a lot like marriage….not my marriage, mine sucked, I would have preferred what this man wants to return to
@ I mean, some households let their slaves make a trip to visit their family outside once in a while, and they actually returned. That’s said a lot about social dynamics in the estate
This is why so many prisoners reoffend. They want to get back into prison
It was such a learning experience for her. Plot wise, her big mistake was that she didn’t stay longer.
This was the problem through history with many conquerors...many meant well ..but never hung around long enough ensure the freedom endured.
@@Rick-u6o conquerors generally aren't too concered about anyone's freedom, lol.
All she had to do was make him in charge of the new schools, and pay him a salary.
Good idea, he must be a good teacher
That is what Margery would have done. Queen Margery would have been wise and her husband King Tommen good. So sad they both died in that tragic explosion.
@@barbarabenoit3667 Margaery would had come to them, talked, knowing them and their wishes. inspiring them to be useful and keep their love. Daenerys just give them freedom and i feed you and keep safe... but didnt care about them as individuals. notice she talk to them in audiences, while margaery went to their places, talked to the commoners as normal people. I kinda wish, margaery did the walk of shame... instead the people would turn their backs in a sign of respect. making a different scenary against cerseis walk. Plus later on a plot of commoners revolting against cersei been queen, could happen
there is a wonderful anime called how a realist hero saved the kingom. one episode a young man inherits his fathers slave business. in order to help them he set about teaching them so they could go as free people to good jobs. the king (hero) goes in undercover and tries to buy the last slave, but she refuses, prefering to stay with her master/friend. The king was actually testing him. And gives him a big chunk of money to open a school for adults to learn new skills as part of his many many reforms. its worth a watch as it breaks down some interesting facets of running a country.
@@gregorturner4753ty for sharing!
Surely his former master and him could have just done that anyway.
“Hey Bob I can’t own you anymore. I’m just gonna give you 5 gold a week and we keep the same deal ok?”
Can’t be a very good teacher if he couldn’t figure that out.
That’s what I was thinking lol he can do the same thing as a free man he just wouldn’t be owned by someone else
Or he could have just done it for room and board, it's weird to me that his former master felt the need to kick him out if he couldn't literally own him anymore
@@BendylifeI remember it's worse in the book, the masters charged board and food. 😅
If they don't know they are allowed to have contracts then they would likely not even think to create any 🤷♀️
The more I see of those snippets, the angrier I get. She was such a great character. Show did her dirty
Totally agree, once they surpassed the book storyline and started writing their own, it really went downhill
I agree and what Jon Snow did to her is unforgivable. Such betrayal. WOW!
"Freedom means making your own choice." OMG - hope to have it someday again.
In the US? You VOTED that away ... possibly for the ENTIRE WORLD.
@@capnkirk5528 we didn't all vote that way.
@@tabbyreed8925 The MAJORITY did. Or stayed home because they just didn't care ...
@@capnkirk5528Man you're self righteous. Most people are just trying to survive a system that's stacked against them to begin with. Also your votes aren't any different than your opposition's, as you want to force your will on others just the same. The fact you think voting to empower the "right" candidates into an authoritarian system has anything to do with freedom is sad. You're the same as the ones you hate
@@capnkirk5528not all of us did please know that
"Freedom means making your own choice."
That is the truth. A contract is what a slavery could never do, service for payment. Genuine freedom to choose what you do for what price.
Not just for home and food.
The old man suffers from stockholm syndrom.
Stockholm Syndrome isn't actually a thing ;). But he wants to go back to what he knows. And it seems obvious that as far as slave master go, he had a great deal of luck.
Wrong, slavery depicted in GOT is more akin to that of Slavery during BC and start of AD. People WILLING chose it as a means to provide
Probably not SS. he is obviously educated as he was deemed fit to educate the children of Masters. He is just old, and realizes that although he is free now, he didn't have such a bad gig as far as slaves go. He wasn't a worker, or a pit fighter. Just a teacher, probably respected and comfy enough. Poor guy probably has nothing or no one. Having no purpose is tough on a man
@@mickeyb4412 No, it clearly wasn't. Just look at the bible, God specifically says you can take people from captured villages as PERMANENT slaves for life.
Also, all their decendents.
No. He is to old to learn new tricks.
Master Migdall is a rich man, he can pay you for your services. No need to be a slave, you can be an employee.
Bless her. She understood his situation ❤🙏
I don't understand his situation. It sounds like he and his former master both want to return to their previous arrangement of their own accord, no slavery necessary. So what's stopping them?
She was so intelligent. So sad how it all ended.
She was as intelligent as a post turtle.
Only in the last couple of seasons, she started out as a brilliant leader but she went mad.
In the end, GRRM showed us that he had absolutely no idea how to write a satisfying ending. And now, with how poorly the later seasons did, I doubt he ever will..
She was naive if she thought that freedom alone would make the people happy and prosperous. Like, the moment she left the city it went right black to their former ways. She means good, but her rule is still through Fear, of her army and her dragons.
The writing was on the wall since the first season. She had moments like this, but she also had many many many bloodthirsty moments. Like when she nailed all the people to crosses, even the innocent ones.
In Poland we have " you not move old tree with roots"😢❤
Totally doable Pops. It's called employment. You do all the things you used to do. Except now you have a couple silver at the end of the month.
If anyone has seen the Shawshank Redemption, this man is the same as the prisoner who worked the library. Its all he'd known, in a changing world. He'd rather be locked up and be happy, than to be alone and miserable or treated poorly.
Damn... The dialogues.... Sad thing we didn't had this in the last two seasons
No he missed having a task and teach the children. He do not miss to be a slave but to teach.
He should been a teacher to all children and not to his former masters children.
The privilegued works to conserve their wealth not for the good of the society.
People always say they cant change, but in situations like this, and many others, its not about being unable, its about being unwilling
A contract freely made is not slavery.
Not unless there is no way to break the contract.
@@morgianasartre6709 Thats why the solution is for them to make a yearly contract that renews that offers his services in exchange for food care and shelter. We have this now, they're called live-in nannies, live-in butlers, etc. Effectively nothing changes, but the label and ownership does as well as protecting the worker from abuse.
If the contract includes signing away your freedom, it's still slavery
Could have made him a teacher to the newly freed slaves thereby helping everyone
The guy just wants a job, make sure the former slave owner pays him a fair wage for the work. Simple.
He wanted respect and love as a teacher and lost his home to live in the streets. His decision was spot on.
No. I’m sorry but there is no way he had respect as a slave. A slave is a thing you own. A thing you can hurt or kill any time you want. That is not respect. If he was respected, his master would have freed him ages ago.
In current situation, all that was needed was for the old master to hire him. Maybe offer lodging, even if only for a short time. But he did not do that. Rather he left him to live in the streets. Is that respect?
@@theodorsik You have a wrong picture of slavery. In most countries that have practiced slavery in history it was actually forbidden to wantonly kill or maim your slaves. Even they had rights.
Especially during the time of the roman republic/empire slavery was something that came with rights because it was a legal status.
As for your point about the former master hiring the teacher, you might overlook something. Institutions shape thinking, the former master might not have even thought about hiring the former slave back as a private teacher, because the concept was foreign to him.
But the clip shows how naive Daenerys was, just coming in and abolishing institutions is less than halfway to actually getting rid of them. If you can't offer a replacement almost immediately, you might just as well not even tried.
@ please, give me specific roman laws guaranteeing rights to slaves other, than citizens who sold them selves to slavery.
@@theodorsik your awfully opinionated for someone who has probably never suffered a day in her life. It’s not surprising. You don’t understand difficult decisions or the multifaceted nature of the decision before this poor old man. I wouldn’t expect someone from a life of comfort to understand such a difficult decision.
@ what decision, lol? You don’t know shit about me
And my Life. Tell me a single argument against what I said
I like what Connor said from AC3. All these people speak of freedom but freedom for who.
Freedom means making your own choices!!!!
Even though she didn't agree she found a way for it to happen.
It was HIS choice.
The freedom to choose can be scary at first but it is the only way to move forward to any kind of future that is worth having.
This same thing happened to many freed slaves in America. They became “sharecroppers” whom continued to work the land in exchange for staying. It’s crazy that even today, generations later some of their descendants still stay on these properties and the difference in wealth between them and the families they are tied to is devastating.
Crazy how forcefully changing peoples lives and destroying a cities economy can lead to problems 😂
You’re telling me a queen is able to see individual cases. I wanna go talk to the president real quick.
🤣
given the size of that particular queendom, it's probably more like a county seat or governor. *shrug* when you upend the entire economic system and those you were trying to help are struggling harder, you owe it to them to listen to at least a leader among them about their needs.
I wish this old man was one of her advisors.
There is something special about G.O.T. The series encapsulates life in general. This scene portrays that people really love their chains. You can free people unless they are ready to be freed.
Freedom means making your own choices
If his master really respected him so much, he would have offered employment to the man.
I actually think thats kinda smart because then they can keep their previous jobs and stuff but they aren't owned by anyone
Personally, I think that the man just got attached to the children, and was sad to leave. Understandable... it's impossible to be in charge of children like that, and feel nothing...
Master did not give Doby the sock yet
When the people of Israel escaped their slavery in Egypt, whenever there was a problem, they said let's go back to Egypt. Living in a cage does mean you also get fed. This is one of the less spoken about reasons they had to wonder in the wilderness for 40 years. Slavery was all they had known and so they could not fight for their promised land. Their children had to be the ones to grow up in freedom so they would have no memory of living in a cage and being fed by masters.
You are never " too old" to change!
Fear doesn't care about age!
Freedom means little when choices are taken away, choices that only affect yourself more so.
42:32 After seeing what these look like, I have just realized there is a very large, unlabeled lowhead dam in the nearby river.
This area is popular in summer for kayaking and fishing. Yikes.
Edit: is there any way to request/ petition for warnings to be posted around this dam?
If only there were some type of way for him to teach and _not_ be a slave. But no such arrangement exists actually.
Working for someone doesn't necessarily mean slavery. What Dany proposed was a good compromise. He wouldn't be a slave but he would have a purpose.
But in season 8 she says, “They don’t get to choose.” RIP Breaker of Chains.
This man has obviously not heard about our worlds job contracts. It's the next best thing.
Bro could have just been like "Hey, can I work for you as I did before for food and board and 1 silver a year?"
“I will allow you”
Also
“I freed you”
When is UA-cam is going to bring us great movies like this one?
Germany perfectly summarized, literally explains what's wrong
This is so dumb, nothing is stopping him from helping his former master in exchange for food and a bed...
😅i would have started a school system and made him train more. However having a contract to work where you know for pay is fine too.😅
The music needs to be WAY louder, I can still make out some of the conversation.
Sadly this happens all the time, mainly with long term jail time. It's all people know, and they can't handle anything else so they do everything they can to return to what they know and feel safe in even if that system is not normal.
Yeah he can still work for him and stay at his former masters place, I see no problem with that as long as he is free to leave if he wants to
People learn to love their chains
You may go back and he will pay you!
Agree they could make it so the pay equal to food and shelter if he liked the past arrangement
Well let me build a school for you to become a teacher for all children in our city and give you a home within this school so you are no longer living on the street. At least that's what I'd have done to help him see a new way in freedom. 😂❤
They couldn't afford to pay the teacher they loved? 😂
It wasn’t having freedom that was the issue here. Dany tried to abolish slavery overnight in a city where the economy was built on and based on slavery without offering any alternative ways to ensure the economy continued to prosper instead of falling apart. She was just a conqueror who wanted to be hero-worshipped. A real ruler would’ve had proper plans in place to protect the newly freed people and keep the economy afoat once slavery had been abolished. Dany sucked at ruling and was never suited for any throne.
The huge problem in the world of Westeros and Essos is really education.
The Center of knowledge is the Citadel and yet for some reason they withhold education to the world and only to a select few
The nobles only know the art of war and politics while the rest rule their kingdoms based on history, instinct and experience
If science, economics and philosophy is widely taught, that time period would be a better place
That’s why every one of them never deserved to rule anything no matter how we loved them.
I totally understand the psychology behind his position and the narrative whatever of having someone trying to return to their chains. It’s an interesting and nuance scene. What I don’t get, is why he doesn’t just become a live-in servant? That’s totally a thing. If he really loves this role so much, he could accept food and shelter as the wages for the exact same outcome, and it’s not any more or less expensive for his former master
I wouldn't take him back as a teacher if he wasn't cognizant enough to figure out how to be a teacher without being a slave. What am I without being a slave? A person who can still do the same thing just for money, or volunteer to do it. You don't have to be enslaved to do the things you were doing before. The fact that he can't understand that shows he's not the one to be teaching anyone even simple lessons.
Widespread political change is something that takes decades, if not centuries, Dany learned that Mereen. And if I remember correctly the second she left to invade Westeros everything she built in slavers bay collapsed back into the old ways.
Slavery and indentured servitude are very similar but actually still a bit different.
Slavery- no choice, not a person, abused, given nothing in return
Indentured servitude- not a person, your choice (usually), not usually abused, given food/shelter In exchange for work
Instead of slaves, why don't you train a city watch?
Children don't have to be homeless. People don't have to be jobless.
It’s too advanced to the people in that time
@MissG_clip I'm sorry a city watch is too advanced for high middle age technology fantasy land?
Or is it assigning people useful jobs?
The concepts we have used since before we were using tools?
Hell actual monkeys do this with some having specific "jobs"
No, it's just utter foolishness ignoring the basics of how economies function
In a study of the civil war of America. There were many former slaves that starved to death because they could not adjust and adapt to being FREE .
Many also chose to return to their former " owners " as servitude contracts. They made similar arrangements with former slave owners. Research yourself you will see that everything you have heard was not true.
Many owners of slaves incorporated them into their own family. Cared for them and treated the children as family members. Educated them as their own. 😢😊
Ask your self how many names like Jefferson, Washington, Adam's and many others. 😊
So now he isn’t a slave, he is an indentured servant
They did her so dirty at the end
A great lesson and interesting character development.
Anyone else hear a toilet bowl flushing? *cough season 8*
Imagine a world where you have to beg someone to allow you to make informed decisions about your own life.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to do.
Despite him being male, I'm calling him "Winky" from now on.
Wise words freddom is the abilty to choose
Well, he wants to be a teacher, let him sell his services as a teacher
As if he just couldn't strike a contract to work for his former master as mentor in exchange for food and shelter
It sounds like someone locked up for many years
I can't imagine what I would say if she asked me "what can I do for you" or "what is it you want from me" 🤔
She was the worst character in the show, terribly entitled and caused more messes then there actually were
Literally all that was needed was his old master start oaying him sellary and maybe offer a place to stay. Funny how his quality of teacher and love of the children was nit enough for the father to treat him as a free person.
Utter nonsense. If his former owner was good to him, why can't he hire him now? This show was so odd.
Probably can't afford it. I'm sure their entire economy collapsed in a day
Right, he can't own you but he can rent your time from you.
The concept of paid work is so foreign of an idea to a culture that used slaves for pretty much everything that it wouldn't have even come to mind as an option. Dany, of course, could have suggested it, which is what I think she did with the contract.
@chemputer
More nonsense.
its a poorly written series overall. makes it worse that it was written after reign of fire, which uses strategy that they could have used in GOT if JRR was smart enough to realize how many times he put a dragon, in a valley, with high peaks above it. if youre wondering, dragons in most media dont look up because they dont have to. therefore, massive blind spot.this holds true in GOT and in one of the most important battles, they could have hit the dragon from above because it was on the ground, in a valley. JRR is fiction for morons.
I always wondered, why couldn't his former master just hire him as a teacher? Why did he gave to sell himself as a slave?
Pearls in steven universe be like
Would you rather choose to be a king or a slave?
Not all slaves resented their keeping. Might remember that given humans past.
Dani was too naive to rule anything.
Some slaves in the USA didnt want to be freed either because their lives were so much better than in africa, even tho thoses are 1 in a million situations. you will always have someone resistant to change.
Slavery is bad, regardless on how you look at it. even economically slaves arent viable long term. superpowers after supowerpowers have tried and failed (many have fallen as a result as well)
Why didn't he just work as a tutor for his master? Basically work for the guy for food and room?
If he wants to sign a work contract for food and board, so be it
In Philosophy there is a concept that is use to debate progress, the concept of a fence in the middle of nowhere that no one put there so no one knows why is there. Progressive people want to take that fence away because limits freedom and what not, Conservative people wanna keep it, so then when that fence is removed problems start to emerge and society tries to fix them until they realize that putting a fence it is the best solution, so they end up rebuilding the same fence that they destroyed.
Like, the guy couldn't... Idk, pay him a couple of bucks so he would be a hire and not a slave? 😅
Can’t the guy hire him?
That's what the contract is for to protect him and to prevent his master from abusing him a hiring package if you will
That's what she's saying.
ok you can sell your self to your form master but the contract is only 24h.
why did his master think he needed to leave? did his children no longer need a teacher? why does the fact that he can leave mean that he can't stay?
Obviously you can do the same job only the law requires them to pay you for it and have freedoms.
That’s what true freedom is be free to choice to be a slave if you wish it he grant the freedom to choose what life he wants he wanted to return to what he knew i believe history say some slave back when Lincoln freed them also choose to stay while other ram as fast and for as long as they could but it still the point of freedom they had the choice it was their choice it wasn’t taken from he made a choice
Dawg that’s called a job
I don't get why he could have just been hired back a fee that's what happened in most irl cases of freed slaves that didn't know what to do and it was an often abusive system but if this man was really so useful you think the room and board plus a small amount of pay could ha e sorted this issue out
Because they didn't really know that was an option. And Dany refused to tell him that was an option
I still don’t get why they couldn’t have just hired him as a tutor instead of needing to buy him as a slave like what
Have him be a teacher and teach and discipline the young .. the slaves didnt have education. This didnt have to go this way. But i see D didnt see that as an option
so they give it to rip and he gives it back story done
I swear are jobs not a thing. It's been awhile since i read or watched it but not once does she I decree that people can go back to what they were doing and just being paid for it
Or ask for a wage?
Heart is free body not
Free your mind and your ass will follow...Funkadelic