What an incredible operation. It's unreal what we can accomplish when something just has to get done. Also, this entire story was put together very well in an interesting, easy-to-follow, and visually appealing format. Well done!
My opinion is that it’s your commentary that make all of your videos so good you definitely have that “voice” that makes what you do so special! Thanks
R.I.P. brothers of the Phin. We may have been adversaries in life but as a veteran submariner it always saddens me when a boat and her crew don’t come home.
All humans need to come together and stop needlessly hurting each other and our fellow earthlings as well. I understand that killing and death is a part of earth but unfortunately we tend to take it to the extreme. It's a detriment to us all.
Imagine being the project manager for this operation. Jesus Christ. So many literal and figurative moving parts. I’m getting a headache just thinking about it.
I was working on the MSV regalia diving vessel that were the first teams to enter the Kursk, some of the footage in this video is from that phase. We raised 18 casualties and one of the Kursk bow planes which we transferred to a Russian military vessel. We also recovered a large volume of sensitive documentation that was handed to the Russian servicemen onboard. My father was on of the first divers in the kursk, the dive teams had British, Norwegian and 1 American diver in the team. Very interesting project, the Russian crew onboard the MSV Regalia were very dignified, friendly and incredibly appreciative of the work we did, although I saw some modern footage in the clips that showed the current company name Subsea 7, the project was executed by "Rockwater". RIP Gents.
I'm facinated by this incident, most video's are mainly about the incident, as a recreational diver this tells me fascinating information about the salvage, which is never covered, excellent description/ demonstration of the engineering issues and how they were solved, thoroughly interesting and well explained as usual.
I was on the large team making all the lifting parts for the hydraulic cylinders. very impressive project with long working days, to bad they could not be saved.
Imagine the feeling of pulling a craft towards your underbelly that contains live explosives, knowing that the reason the craft sunk was those explosives misbehaving already... You'd need a stiff drink after that day at work.
Nothing proud about the Russian military, the didn't want any help offered when the sub went down, instead they let their fellow members die in the sub.
Great video, I was thoroughly entertained. Take a look at Project Azorian in which the US raised the Russian sub K-129 in 16,000' of water. In 1974. It had it all; a sunken sub, nuclear missiles, a CIA secret mission, a custom built mystery ship with a moon pool, Howard Hughes, a secret burial at sea - everything but the kitchen sink. Another fun one from Smit is the oil recovery from the sunken tanker Prestige from a depth of 13,000 feet. BTW, some 32,000 ships were sunk in WWII and most are still there with fuel still onboard. Something to think about.
@@giggiddy there is video on youtube of the burial. the sub broke apart during lifting and the part they pulled up had submariners inside... they tried to replicate the soviet burial at sea ritual as best they could... awesome stuff
Very good thanks for taking the time and big effort to do this - I remember very well in 2000 the Kursk tradegy and the loss of all the crew after a valiant rescue attempt too late for the 23 crew trapped in the rear of the submarine they literally ran out of air before the Norwegan divers could reach them
A salute to all submariners who are very special people to be able to do that job! My uncle was a U-boat commander in WW2 and woke up screaming every night until he died in his 90’s. A very heavy price you brave sailors pay for having brass cojones!
Thank you for this video. It is a comprehensive analysis of the problems and procedures involved in the raising of the Kursk. However, even though I applaud the technical expertise involved, I cannot overlook the tragic loss of life, the despair of the sailors' families and the mistrust that exists between humans that was the base cause of this disaster.
I would like more of this type of video. As much as I enjoy the other videos, I always feel sad about learning about the last moments of peoples lives before tragedy.
Our company was part of "Project Azorian" which was able to raise part of the Russian sub K129, after they somehow (accidentally or on purpose) blew out one of their missile tubes. Possibly from an internal fire during a launching practice, or an attempt to actually launch a missile. There is much dispute about these circumstances, including a "rogue commander". The lifting mechanism of the Glomar Explorer was one of the first computer controlled lifters, and that technology was later adapted to many other oil-drilling and gas-drilling rigs. Our original servo-systems were actually designed on an analog-digital hybrid computer, along with a lot of slide-rule work. I helped program those computers for other purposes. Later, all of this was transferred to more modern digital setups using CDC machines. Our system simulations worked great, and are still in use today. Stefanger Norway became a hub of this expertise.
The name of the K-129 captain of the soviet submarine was VLADIMIR KOBZAR, and he was not a part of "rouge crew". The entire USA should build the gratitude monuments for this captain and American people should be grateful for not allowing to launch nuclear warhead on Honolulu, HI. Vladimir KOBZAR did not provide his own code to launch the warhead, instead of he provided "self destruction" code to STOP launching it. It caused huge explosion of missile which should carry the nuclear warhead to Honolulu ( approximately 1,400 miles distance to Hawaii). Captain Vladimir KOBZAR should be hero for American for not starting the nuclear exchange between USSR and USA. And as a correction the city in Norway is called: STAVANGER....and NOT Stefanger....PS. Are you Polish? (Bruno Nikodemski)
@@jerzyszmal2722 This is one of the theories, which unfortunately, is impossible to prove or disprove. The CIA and the military did much analysis of the debris, and tried to match the damaged sites to various explosion scenarios. The best match, we were told, was the one where the missile caught on fire while still in the tube (either fully or partially), and then the warhead exploded conventionally due to overheating. Analysis of Russian warheads of that same era, indicates that if the codes were not correctly installed, the fusing would simply "dud", and the round became inert. This was also true of many US explosives. I worked on some fusing, including the safing, and I can attest that this is typically the case. Asymmetric explosions are usually caused by non-fuse initiated events, such as mechanical disruption (somebody cutting it up with a grinder), impacts (dropped from plane), fire, or similar. Even so-called safe explosives will have this happen, if the material is in a contained box, which is usually true. For a nuclear device, the triggering has to be done "en-masse", and any of the initiators do not have "selective fire" to the trigatrons. Same with the optical initiation devices. It is possible that one or more of the trigatrons, initiator SCRs, squibs, or optical paths can fail, but that usually causes a sub-nuclear explosion to occur. That did NOT occur on the K129.
The photo of the wreck on dry deck are one of a kind Strangely, I always though the elliptic shape of the Kursk was due to it having a dual tube side by side, lika having Two Submarine in one But no, there is one great sub tube + missile laucher on the side ! Super video, as always !
That could have been avoided if they took the help that was offered by the USA but oh no, Putin didn't want to appear weak asking another country for help, Putin the killer.
I know a guy who was a saturation diver on the Kursk salvage and I was astonished at how little he was paid to do the job considering the risks involved not to mention the gruesome task of recovering the remains of the crew. The tragedy of this event is that the crew could most likely have been saved had the Russian authorities given the British Navy permission to use the rescue vessel that was available at the time.
I know a Russian electrical engineer that worked for a company in Tampa Fl. He had did all of the design work on the Kursk I asked him about the Kursk and Did the FBI or the CSI interview on the sub he laugh and said they knew more than he did!
I really appreciate your comments as for measurements, you use both imperial and metric systems for us USA people. Your shipping stories are also nicely told with a friendly attitude.
Thanks for a professional and well narrated documentary. I didn't know any of this had been done. Incredible they have developed these marine heavy lift systems
Hey, I'm in the top 20...yes!!! Love your videos, only a few mins new!! This story is so sad though, haunting almost. These poor sailors, what a horrible way to go.
That 'raising the Kursk' video is really great, rewatched it again last week. Obviously it's very hard to re-cover something like this but you did a really good job (as usual) in not just restating other content and sources, but adding content and detail from your own expertise. This particular incident also has a very close relation to the events following collapse of the soviet union and Putin's rise to power, politically, in terms of the degradation of the Russian Naval Forces (the late Politkovskaya did a very excellent story about this), as well as the way Putin handled the crisis (surprise sedative injection, anyone??)
Not specifically about this video but I stumbled across this channel recently and am absolutely hooked. Fantastic, measured and detailed presentation, the kind of speaking voice you just want to listen and very interesting subject matter. Very impressed. I watched many of the earlier videos and you can see how it's all evolved and improved to where it is now. The black outfit you now wear and the set you work from are top notch and totally professional looking. Excellent right across the board 👍👍👍
Smit Boskalis have a UA-cam channel and while theres not much on rhe channel sadly, theres an amazing documentary, that they made, about raising the Kursk
Just a suggestion. You may want to do a story of a collision that happened in 1964 of the coast of Australia involving the aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne and the destroyer HNAS voyager. From my memory the Destroyer was cut in half with a loss of around 80 lives. The aircraft carrier limped back to shore. Just a thought. 😀
When I see the crew if kursk I wonder the suffering they felt. Hiw do I feel about ? I think God works in mysterious ways, God wants this so I think it is kool man..
Russia is so smart, they don't want USA to learn how to make the kursk bow area. USA was desperately trying to make a sub with kursk design, USA wants a sub that blows it self up. That is Russia's sub, no kills on record only record is self kill.....lolol hahaha, mugahaha
Putin didn’t want to do anything and how he treated the families of survivors was abysmal. That’s why a fundraiser was needed to fund raising it. I think you need to do a bit more research on what Putin’s response was to offers from other countries to help launch an emergency rescue operation of the crew. Or how he had an angry wife of a crew member injected with sedatives when she started asking sensitive questions in public. They also knew from the very start from there was no collision.
The cutting process was actually the first thing the did. It didn’t come loose. They did compensate for it getting loose because it’s the longest going up and over. They didn’t factor a slack adjustment as it cut. So they actually had to pull one of the pylons up to slack it up. It caused the cutting cable to break. There are a few documentaries about the lift process alone. And they were worried it didn’t fully cut. And they were right. It still had a 6” thick by 16 foot long section. But it took divers 4 days to confirm. So they kept cutting until it slacked again. Confirming it was fully cut
By looking at the cross section of the Kursk on the dry Deck, There NO WAY it has been sank by a simple collision. This sub is a beast, it has a sort of antichamber ( where the missile silo are) If this area isn't full a water, there is no way a kinetic colision breach both the outer layer and the inner one.
I never understood the Russian copium. "We didn't blow ourselves up with our own incompetence! Our shitty sub was decimated in a collision with a superior built NATO sub that didn't even sink!" As of that somehow makes it better.
First,it is a grave, second you not only have nuclear missiles present, you probably had at least 1 Nuclear torpedo that was damaged or destroyed when the torpedo room was destroyed. This incident seems to almost mirror the loss of U.S.S. Scorpion in 1968 when a torpedo battery malfunctioned and set off a low order explosion. Except kursk's torpedo went off in a high order explosion that destroyed the bow
After those two gigantic explosions, channelled inside the thick titanium tube of the hull, which contained crew, there were very few actual bodies, or even body parts remaining! A lot of the interior of the vessel, on multiple levels, was completely oblitetated, and people would have been vaporised or literally blasted into smithereens by the channelled, contained force if the explosions. The interior of that sub was beyond horrific, its degree of destruction is unique in naval warfare (or accidental explosions).
@@felixcat9318 Not exactly right. Some crew members survived the explosion. I don't remember how many - but after the wreck was salvaged some letters were found. Poor sailors. They knew they wouldn't be rescued in time, and wrote to their families, their children, their parents... They slowly died of cold and lack of oxygen. Heartbreaking. Edit: According to this video 103 bodies was found inside when the sub has surfaced.
@@oneshothunter9877 I didn't mention those unfortunates because I was writing about what wasn't left after the blasts, not what was! The men in the rear compartment died when one of them dropped a carbon dioxide scrubber module into the rapidly rising floodwater, where it exploded on impact! Survivors quickly ducked under water to escape the flashover, but when they came back up for air, the blast had consumed it all and replaced it with toxic fumes. It was at least a quicker death than waiting for the floodwater to fill the compartment. I have always believed that Putin specifically waited till all of the surviving crew had died before he allowed Western divers to enter the wreck. He did not want anyone from the West speaking directly with the Kursk crewmen.
Suggestion: In the ship's statistics/measurements, it would be really great to list the displacement. This is really what matters in relation to its overall length and beam.
Using plain sandblast which can eat granite quickly a thin rubber sheet utterly defeats the sand. Cutting depends on tiny stiff collisions and the rubber absorbs the energy.
The same mechanisms defeat water jet and abrasive filled water jet. Both are methods I studied in the early 1990’s, when they were introduced to help recycle the solid boosters from shuttle then to strip coatings from gas turbine combustion liners. Elastomers defeat abrasives by absorbing and spreading the collisions. Water only is used when cutting softer materials (like the sonar absorption coating on Kursk), but elastomers resist water jet by straining away from the beam. Thick layers greatly slow cutting as the beam diffuses after roughly 5 mm, due to the bulk modulus elastic expansion. To cut the thick rubbery layer off the Kursk a mechanical method would be faster as the water jet needs a very strong structure to hold back reaction forces and it would be difficult to design a system able to make multiple passes at increasing depth into the material.
What an incredible operation. It's unreal what we can accomplish when something just has to get done. Also, this entire story was put together very well in an interesting, easy-to-follow, and visually appealing format. Well done!
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agreed...I was captivated from start to finish...what a massive undertaking...and great docco, despite the sadness of all the lost sailors, R I P 🙏🙏🙏
My opinion is that it’s your commentary that make all of your videos so good you definitely have that “voice” that makes what you do so special!
Thanks
🤣 thanks. 👍🏻
sounds SA accent
@boydownunder007 yep. I’m a saffa
the amount of technology and fabrication that went into this operation is more than my brain can absorb.
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But not too much of the Dutch brains of the 2 companies 😅
R.I.P. brothers of the Phin. We may have been adversaries in life but as a veteran submariner it always saddens me when a boat and her crew don’t come home.
All humans need to come together and stop needlessly hurting each other and our fellow earthlings as well. I understand that killing and death is a part of earth but unfortunately we tend to take it to the extreme. It's a detriment to us all.
@@RamenNoodlePackets correct we are all human regardless of where we live or born
Nicely said.
Well said from fellow submarine veteran
Amen 🙏🏻
Imagine being the project manager for this operation. Jesus Christ. So many literal and figurative moving parts. I’m getting a headache just thinking about it.
And so many delays, not sure how they got it done
Both Mammut and SMIT worked on it, SMIT made their own minidocumentary about the project
Dutch engineers
Its a government job, not commercial...chill and bill.😆😆
It wasn’t a big deal, because in Soviet Russia, even project manager has project manager.
I was working on the MSV regalia diving vessel that were the first teams to enter the Kursk, some of the footage in this video is from that phase. We raised 18 casualties and one of the Kursk bow planes which we transferred to a Russian military vessel. We also recovered a large volume of sensitive documentation that was handed to the Russian servicemen onboard. My father was on of the first divers in the kursk, the dive teams had British, Norwegian and 1 American diver in the team. Very interesting project, the Russian crew onboard the MSV Regalia were very dignified, friendly and incredibly appreciative of the work we did, although I saw some modern footage in the clips that showed the current company name Subsea 7, the project was executed by "Rockwater". RIP Gents.
Thanks for sharing. 👌🏻
"a large volume of sensitive documentation": encryption / decryption code book or safety instructions?
Liar
@@phonoticallol
I'm facinated by this incident, most video's are mainly about the incident, as a recreational diver this tells me fascinating information about the salvage, which is never covered, excellent description/ demonstration of the engineering issues and how they were solved, thoroughly interesting and well explained as usual.
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Could have been avoided if Putin took the help that was offered by other countries to rescue the crew.
I was on the large team making all the lifting parts for the hydraulic cylinders. very impressive project with long working days, to bad they could not be saved.
Imagine the feeling of pulling a craft towards your underbelly that contains live explosives, knowing that the reason the craft sunk was those explosives misbehaving already... You'd need a stiff drink after that day at work.
For sure. 👌🏻
Imagine being the divers who had to take the explosives out
After?
Yeah I’d of said a stiff drink before
@@HughieMunro are you having a stroke?
I really enjoy watching salvage operations. Thank you very much!
Marine salvage operations are the most insane things in the world IMO. I also consider saturation divers the craziest, ballsiest people on earth.
As an American, any serviceman who dies in peacetime has all of my condolences. May we never meet in anger.🙂
As a Dutch ex submariner, this story makes me sad and proud…
Nothing proud about the Russian military, the didn't want any help offered when the sub went down, instead they let their fellow members die in the sub.
Great video, I was thoroughly entertained. Take a look at Project Azorian in which the US raised the Russian sub K-129 in 16,000' of water. In 1974. It had it all; a sunken sub, nuclear missiles, a CIA secret mission, a custom built mystery ship with a moon pool, Howard Hughes, a secret burial at sea - everything but the kitchen sink. Another fun one from Smit is the oil recovery from the sunken tanker Prestige from a depth of 13,000 feet. BTW, some 32,000 ships were sunk in WWII and most are still there with fuel still onboard. Something to think about.
Would love to see WS cover all of these!
Never heard of it but sounds unbelievable. Thanks for the suggestion. Hope I can find a documentary on it
@@giggiddy there is video on youtube of the burial. the sub broke apart during lifting and the part they pulled up had submariners inside... they tried to replicate the soviet burial at sea ritual as best they could... awesome stuff
@@mikesphat I appreciate the reply. This stuff fascinates me. Cheers!
Actually the Chinese are doing illegal salvage of these war graves.
Very informative, thank you. 👍
I've heard plenty about the Kursk disaster itself, but very little about the salvage operation.
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Same for me, don't remember it, probably due to 9/11
Very good thanks for taking the time and big effort to do this - I remember very well in 2000 the Kursk tradegy and the loss of all the crew after a valiant rescue attempt too late for the 23 crew trapped in the rear of the submarine they literally ran out of air before the Norwegan divers could reach them
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Considering illegal salvages have cut up ww2 wrecks for decades,war graves and still are
Fine ill take a 20 minute break at work to watch a Waterline story
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Same 😂😭
Me too, watching during my lunch break.
Can't wait for your story here!
I listen wile I work
A salute to all submariners who are very special people to be able to do that job! My uncle was a U-boat commander in WW2 and woke up screaming every night until he died in his 90’s. A very heavy price you brave sailors pay for having brass cojones!
The US Navy offered to rescue the crew ,but Russia said no
if Russia offer America help America would say 'no'! Bo need to pick sides
@@michaelwhitmore7160 military secret’s
@@michaelwhitmore7160sounds like you're picking sides by theorizing.
@@michaelwhitmore7160 The difference being, the US can do it by itself, Russia can't. :)
@@jamesgastovski3184 lol
Thank you for this video. It is a comprehensive analysis of the problems and procedures involved in the raising of the Kursk. However, even though I applaud the technical expertise involved, I cannot overlook the tragic loss of life, the despair of the sailors' families and the mistrust that exists between humans that was the base cause of this disaster.
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Housework? What housework? Time for cuppa and a 20 min break to watch Waterline.
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Excellent video and narration. So many young sailors were lost. RIP thank you.
Thanks 👍🏻
Wow - that's some operation, amazing job by the salvage team.
hats off to the engineers the divers and everybody involved amazing. thank you
Dutch salvagers are the best 👍
The Dutch even salvage land from the sea!
I would like more of this type of video. As much as I enjoy the other videos, I always feel sad about learning about the last moments of peoples lives before tragedy.
I do want to make some broader maritime stories.
Our company was part of "Project Azorian" which was able to raise part of the Russian sub K129, after they somehow (accidentally or on purpose) blew out one of their missile tubes. Possibly from an internal fire during a launching practice, or an attempt to actually launch a missile. There is much dispute about these circumstances, including a "rogue commander". The lifting mechanism of the Glomar Explorer was one of the first computer controlled lifters, and that technology was later adapted to many other oil-drilling and gas-drilling rigs. Our original servo-systems were actually designed on an analog-digital hybrid computer, along with a lot of slide-rule work. I helped program those computers for other purposes. Later, all of this was transferred to more modern digital setups using CDC machines. Our system simulations worked great, and are still in use today. Stefanger Norway became a hub of this expertise.
Azorian is on our list to make. Thanks for the little insight
My Uncle David also worked on the (real) Glomar Explorer after that mission..... for many years, they did much incredible work!
The name of the K-129 captain of the soviet submarine was VLADIMIR KOBZAR, and he was not a part of "rouge crew". The entire USA should build the gratitude monuments for this captain and American people should be grateful for not allowing to launch nuclear warhead on Honolulu, HI. Vladimir KOBZAR did not provide his own code to launch the warhead, instead of he provided "self destruction" code to STOP launching it. It caused huge explosion of missile which should carry the nuclear warhead to Honolulu ( approximately 1,400 miles distance to Hawaii). Captain Vladimir KOBZAR should be hero for American for not starting the nuclear exchange between USSR and USA. And as a correction the city in Norway is called: STAVANGER....and NOT Stefanger....PS. Are you Polish? (Bruno Nikodemski)
@@jeffalvich9434 Yes, us too.
@@jerzyszmal2722 This is one of the theories, which unfortunately, is impossible to prove or disprove. The CIA and the military did much analysis of the debris, and tried to match the damaged sites to various explosion scenarios. The best match, we were told, was the one where the missile caught on fire while still in the tube (either fully or partially), and then the warhead exploded conventionally due to overheating. Analysis of Russian warheads of that same era, indicates that if the codes were not correctly installed, the fusing would simply "dud", and the round became inert. This was also true of many US explosives. I worked on some fusing, including the safing, and I can attest that this is typically the case. Asymmetric explosions are usually caused by non-fuse initiated events, such as mechanical disruption (somebody cutting it up with a grinder), impacts (dropped from plane), fire, or similar. Even so-called safe explosives will have this happen, if the material is in a contained box, which is usually true. For a nuclear device, the triggering has to be done "en-masse", and any of the initiators do not have "selective fire" to the trigatrons. Same with the optical initiation devices. It is possible that one or more of the trigatrons, initiator SCRs, squibs, or optical paths can fail, but that usually causes a sub-nuclear explosion to occur. That did NOT occur on the K129.
The photo of the wreck on dry deck are one of a kind
Strangely, I always though the elliptic shape of the Kursk was due to it having a dual tube side by side, lika having Two Submarine in one
But no, there is one great sub tube + missile laucher on the side !
Super video, as always !
Yeah, the Oscar class is bs mounted anti ship missiles launch tubes on either side of the pressure hull which makes the outer hull much wider.
I'm speechless, this was an amazing example of marine engineering
"What do you do for a living?"
"I'm a fabricator."
"I don't believe you."
As a fabricator, we don’t require people to believe us. Results always speak louder. 😉
My brain was moving in slow motion when I read this and it took a long beat for the joke to sink in. 😂
Simply astonishing how this was done
What a pleasant surprise. Enjoyed seeing a positive story rather then death & destruction. Great job 😉👍😉👍
Well, it really is a video about death and destruction. You have the death of the entire crew and the destruction of the submarine.
@snydedon9636 That is true, but I'm talking about the salvage of the Kursk. Not the sinking.
Wow, what a feat of engineering! Way to go Mammoet, Smit, and all other crews that coordinated to achieve this goal!
Key point : other “ expert crews “ …….😮. ? Ya reckon who ? 3 guesses & 1st 2 don’t count !
They should have sent Putin down there.
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Please clarify what your talking about, not in gibberish , so people can understand your post and point of view
we can thank the netherlands for raising the kursk!!!!
Huh ? Who ? 😅
Goed bezig mannen heerlijk om te zien 👍🏻👊🏻
I have never heard this whole story. Thank you for your technical knowledge and great storytelling.
Simply amazing.
What a well done video explaining everything!
Thanks 👍🏻
I know it was 23 years ago, but it amazes me that this salvage only cost $70,000,000.00. It seems like a bargain.
That could have been avoided if they took the help that was offered by the USA but oh no, Putin didn't want to appear weak asking another country for help, Putin the killer.
I know a guy who was a saturation diver on the Kursk salvage and I was astonished at how little he was paid to do the job considering the risks involved not to mention the gruesome task of recovering the remains of the crew.
The tragedy of this event is that the crew could most likely have been saved had the Russian authorities given the British Navy permission to use the rescue vessel that was available at the time.
@@robbie9030 let another navy into your most modern submarine.. You must be mad.. Under NO circumstances will that be permitted
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And yet it cost 120 men their lives. Life is cheap in Russia.
@@robbie9030 Do you think the U.S. or the U.K. would except any help from an adversary? If your answer is yes, you are delusional.
Your videos are so well done. Awesome graphics, video, narration, and fascinating. Thx man
Thanks, I really appreciate that 👍🏻
Fascinating and i really like your narration style.
Thanks 👍🏻
I think your experience really shows in these salvage videos. Excellent work!
😀Thanks, I really appreciate that 👍🏻
Putin’s reaction when asked what happened to the Kursk sums him up: “It sank.”
Totaly love your channel ... hook line and sinker ... the video of the boat really belies it's actual size incredible
Thanks. 👍🏻 yes it’s an incredible size to ‘live in’ under water.
I know a Russian electrical engineer that worked for a company in Tampa Fl. He had did all of the design work on the Kursk I asked him about the Kursk and Did the FBI or the CSI interview on the sub he laugh and said they knew more than he did!
I really appreciate your comments as for measurements, you use both imperial and metric systems for us USA people. Your shipping stories are also nicely told with a friendly attitude.
Thanks for saying so. I appreciate that. 👍🏻
Unbelievable! The people who do this stuff are amazing. I was sad to hear the Kursk sank and glad it was brought back up.
Thanks for a professional and well narrated documentary. I didn't know any of this had been done. Incredible they have developed these marine heavy lift systems
Thanks. Yes incredible technology and engineering for a tough environment
I cannot imagine the final hours of those trapped crewmen. May they rest in peace.
4:19 I didn't know Alice Cooper was involved.
Hey, I'm in the top 20...yes!!! Love your videos, only a few mins new!! This story is so sad though, haunting almost. These poor sailors, what a horrible way to go.
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What a top quality doc, thanks!
Thanks
That 'raising the Kursk' video is really great, rewatched it again last week. Obviously it's very hard to re-cover something like this but you did a really good job (as usual) in not just restating other content and sources, but adding content and detail from your own expertise.
This particular incident also has a very close relation to the events following collapse of the soviet union and Putin's rise to power, politically, in terms of the degradation of the Russian Naval Forces (the late Politkovskaya did a very excellent story about this), as well as the way Putin handled the crisis (surprise sedative injection, anyone??)
Can you imagine the sights and smells of that wreckage once it was recovering she drained?
Must have been nightmare fuel.
Not specifically about this video but I stumbled across this channel recently and am absolutely hooked. Fantastic, measured and detailed presentation, the kind of speaking voice you just want to listen and very interesting subject matter. Very impressed. I watched many of the earlier videos and you can see how it's all evolved and improved to where it is now. The black outfit you now wear and the set you work from are top notch and totally professional looking. Excellent right across the board 👍👍👍
Thanks I appreciate that. 👍🏻
Great presentation. It was good to see a well executed plan come to fruition and that some families had closure.
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I really like listening to this guy, his attention to detail is very good and what he describes makes a lot of sense.
Thanks, I’ll take that
My boss says I work too hard fine I’ll take waterline video break
As it should be
Smit Boskalis have a UA-cam channel and while theres not much on rhe channel sadly, theres an amazing documentary, that they made, about raising the Kursk
The strand jacks were all automated to compensate for movement from the waves, instead of just relying on cable flexibility.
I kinda wonder how they did it. The movement on those rams is so smooth. So guy spent some weeks tuning those PID loops.
I was recently chatting to a diver who was involved with this salvage so your video was particularly interesting
Cool. I’m sure that was an interesting conversation
Just a suggestion. You may want to do a story of a collision that happened in 1964 of the coast of Australia involving the aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne and the destroyer HNAS voyager. From my memory the Destroyer was cut in half with a loss of around 80 lives. The aircraft carrier limped back to shore. Just a thought. 😀
Hi Jim, I’m actually mates with a Vietnam vet that served on the Melbourne for a time. I think she sank the Frankie Evans too
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Your right. I should have included that as well. Hopefully he will find out that information when he does his research. 👍
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When I see the crew if kursk I wonder the suffering they felt. Hiw do I feel about ? I think God works in mysterious ways, God wants this so I think it is kool man..
Russia is so smart, they don't want USA to learn how to make the kursk bow area. USA was desperately trying to make a sub with kursk design, USA wants a sub that blows it self up. That is Russia's sub, no kills on record only record is self kill.....lolol hahaha, mugahaha
Another fine piece of work from my brother from down under and best wishes from the City of Liverpool.📚☘️
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Fascinating video. Thank you. So much coordination among various experts delivers hope for future collaborations.
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Awesome video as usual!! I was interested in the removal of the bodies of the crew. Did they find them all?
I was wondering if some got sawn in half during the cutting process.
Putin didn’t want to do anything and how he treated the families of survivors was abysmal. That’s why a fundraiser was needed to fund raising it. I think you need to do a bit more research on what Putin’s response was to offers from other countries to help launch an emergency rescue operation of the crew. Or how he had an angry wife of a crew member injected with sedatives when she started asking sensitive questions in public.
They also knew from the very start from there was no collision.
The cutting process was actually the first thing the did. It didn’t come loose. They did compensate for it getting loose because it’s the longest going up and over. They didn’t factor a slack adjustment as it cut. So they actually had to pull one of the pylons up to slack it up. It caused the cutting cable to break. There are a few documentaries about the lift process alone. And they were worried it didn’t fully cut. And they were right. It still had a 6” thick by 16 foot long section. But it took divers 4 days to confirm. So they kept cutting until it slacked again. Confirming it was fully cut
By looking at the cross section of the Kursk on the dry Deck, There NO WAY it has been sank by a simple collision.
This sub is a beast, it has a sort of antichamber ( where the missile silo are)
If this area isn't full a water, there is no way a kinetic colision breach both the outer layer and the inner one.
I never understood the Russian copium. "We didn't blow ourselves up with our own incompetence! Our shitty sub was decimated in a collision with a superior built NATO sub that didn't even sink!"
As of that somehow makes it better.
Would've been an amazing museum piece
First,it is a grave, second you not only have nuclear missiles present, you probably had at least 1 Nuclear torpedo that was damaged or destroyed when the torpedo room was destroyed. This incident seems to almost mirror the loss of U.S.S. Scorpion in 1968 when a torpedo battery malfunctioned and set off a low order explosion. Except kursk's torpedo went off in a high order explosion that destroyed the bow
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I like your style. Good work. RIP all silent service members friend and foe .... still on patrol.
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Explosion caused by poorly maintained weapon. I wonder how well maintained russian nuclear weapons are?
95% won't fly.
But..even only 5% of 6000 warheads is still gonna cause some serious..."problems" if used.
Fair enough! And condolensces to the families.
It is sad to think that this operation took place with 130 bodies still inside. But I certainly dont have any better ideas.
After those two gigantic explosions, channelled inside the thick titanium tube of the hull, which contained crew, there were very few actual bodies, or even body parts remaining!
A lot of the interior of the vessel, on multiple levels, was completely oblitetated, and people would have been vaporised or literally blasted into smithereens by the channelled, contained force if the explosions.
The interior of that sub was beyond horrific, its degree of destruction is unique in naval warfare (or accidental explosions).
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Not exactly right.
Some crew members survived the explosion.
I don't remember how many - but after the wreck was salvaged some letters were found. Poor sailors. They knew they wouldn't be rescued in time, and wrote to their families, their children, their parents... They slowly died of cold and lack of oxygen. Heartbreaking.
Edit: According to this video 103 bodies was found inside when the sub has surfaced.
@@oneshothunter9877 I didn't mention those unfortunates because I was writing about what wasn't left after the blasts, not what was!
The men in the rear compartment died when one of them dropped a carbon dioxide scrubber module into the rapidly rising floodwater, where it exploded on impact!
Survivors quickly ducked under water to escape the flashover, but when they came back up for air, the blast had consumed it all and replaced it with toxic fumes.
It was at least a quicker death than waiting for the floodwater to fill the compartment.
I have always believed that Putin specifically waited till all of the surviving crew had died before he allowed Western divers to enter the wreck.
He did not want anyone from the West speaking directly with the Kursk crewmen.
Great content from a great channel. Thanks man
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Absolutely riveting stuff. Thank you.
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Suggestion: In the ship's statistics/measurements, it would be really great to list the displacement. This is really what matters in relation to its overall length and beam.
Wow. Nicely done, sir!
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I can imagine there were a lot of difficulties for the Dutch company to get the information they needed due to being "classified" or "top secret"
This literally looks like a space walk, but underwater
very sad for people those lost their lifes,
very well explained the the entire complex operation
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Very interesting and very well made documentation - Thank you!
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Simply amazing work beautifully explained. Well done.
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As an aspiring engineer, I find these videos especially fascinating.
It is incredible.
This was extremely interesting. Thank you!
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Was confused how I missed this one, then saw it was posted while I was in the middle of binging another shipwreck video 😂
Using plain sandblast which can eat granite quickly a thin rubber sheet utterly defeats the sand. Cutting depends on tiny stiff collisions and the rubber absorbs the energy.
This isn't plain sand blasting lol. Look more into it to understand the water jet cutting
The same mechanisms defeat water jet and abrasive filled water jet. Both are methods I studied in the early 1990’s, when they were introduced to help recycle the solid boosters from shuttle then to strip coatings from gas turbine combustion liners. Elastomers defeat abrasives by absorbing and spreading the collisions. Water only is used when cutting softer materials (like the sonar absorption coating on Kursk), but elastomers resist water jet by straining away from the beam. Thick layers greatly slow cutting as the beam diffuses after roughly 5 mm, due to the bulk modulus elastic expansion. To cut the thick rubbery layer off the Kursk a mechanical method would be faster as the water jet needs a very strong structure to hold back reaction forces and it would be difficult to design a system able to make multiple passes at increasing depth into the material.
I have had a piece of that submarine in my hands. They sold the metal as scrap to the international market.
The Dutch are experts of ocean salvage.This amazes me
Shit I always forget the Kursk had two reactors
Sad how crappy the Russian government is and didn’t accept help to rescue the surviving crew. What a shame.
We are all human beings.
Glad those souls will get proper resting places next to loved ones!!
Yet another really good video 👍👏👏
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Ok thanks. I appreciate your efforts on this.
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A great movie, The Command, reenacts the great tragedy of the Kursk. Well worth watching. (free on Prime)
Wonderful...
Another fabulously detailed account...
Thank you so much...
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What a hell of an operation
Always great to see a new WS!
Thanks for another great video! Wasn't to long of a wait ;)
Trying to keep them flowing weekly.
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great video once again!
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Those divers! Such men!
That was fascinating. I still remember first hearing of this incident on the radio. Whatever those salvage divers got paid im sure it wasnt enough!!!