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  • @Darktotaled
    @Darktotaled 3 роки тому +225

    i giggled when he started talking about Jack flexing instead of dissing Hannibal knowing what was coming XD

    • @naokaderapider4210
      @naokaderapider4210 3 роки тому +2

      @Julio Cesar The problem with that Idea is that flexing too much without backing any of it up backfires.

    • @supergiant92
      @supergiant92 3 роки тому

      Same haha

    • @louiechapman-jones9861
      @louiechapman-jones9861 3 роки тому +1

      @Julio Cesar I agree with you about hoping yourself up as much as you can is helpful in a battle, but if you have not dissed the opponent once, your not winning the battle. Also you can flex while dissing but I get where your coming from.

    • @louiechapman-jones9861
      @louiechapman-jones9861 3 роки тому +1

      @Julio Cesar yeah your right, as long as you don’t fill up your verse with it and have some disses at least, you are doing good. If you just attack with little health you will lose. If you just heal, you will eventually run out. But I think dissing is that little more important because it has when you look a rap battle you don’t go ohhhh what a flex. Flexing won’t hit an opponent as hard and they will still feel fine after it. A good diss can out power another person. So I think 55/45 but I’m not always right.

    • @louiechapman-jones9861
      @louiechapman-jones9861 3 роки тому +1

      @Julio Cesar I don’t believe that the psychiatrist was the one getting mind gamed, but yeah we all have our own opinions. To me, flexing can build you higher up but dissing will knock you down if they don’t. But that’s fine if you believe other wise. Do you know if there is any other erbs where the opponent flexed more then dissing. Interesting to see what happened in those. I feel like thanos flexed a lot and he got destroyed by Oppenheimer

  • @datyungeggory7564
    @datyungeggory7564 3 роки тому +126

    If you listen closely you will hear 5 screams in Dan bull’s second verse. This is in reference to jack the rippers 5 victims. ERB has Easter eggs hidden in everything they do. From the multiple layers in a single line, to background images, and even sound effects in the beat itself! Purely epic!

  • @unicyclist97
    @unicyclist97 3 роки тому +214

    Dan Bull is such a masterful rapper. Notice that neither of them blink, like psychopaths.

    • @tycol322
      @tycol322 3 роки тому +37

      Niether did NicePeter when he played Mark Zuckerberg.... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @makaveli4633
      @makaveli4633 3 роки тому +7

      I’m pretty sure they don’t blink in any of the erbs

    • @unicyclist97
      @unicyclist97 3 роки тому +11

      Stevie Wonder?

    • @Syllaren
      @Syllaren 3 роки тому +12

      @@unicyclist97 here's your vip ticket to hell, have a nice day sir.

    • @mikethemotormouth
      @mikethemotormouth 2 роки тому

      Aside from 11:04, I think not

  • @LucasF25
    @LucasF25 3 роки тому +156

    Horrorcore is a kind of rap with very gruesome and violent lyrics, basically the rap equivalent of many Death Metal bands like Cannibal Corpse

    • @leteldo
      @leteldo 3 роки тому +9

      The classic example would be Mannibalector by Brotha Lynch Hung

    • @kittiesice
      @kittiesice 3 роки тому +5

      Would that make the rap that ghostface drops in scary movie a horrocore? lol. He even killed them as he rapped it. XD

    • @Bobal27
      @Bobal27 3 роки тому +4

      To be less precise, “_____core” refers to any kind of music that use lyrics that appeal more to people with a deeper knowledge of ______. Typically rapping, but can be sung.

    • @goldencalf13
      @goldencalf13 3 роки тому +2

      @@Bobal27 A great example would be Dan Bull and nerdcore

    • @Bobal27
      @Bobal27 3 роки тому +2

      @@goldencalf13 No problem in advance.

  • @rowynyerboat1146
    @rowynyerboat1146 3 роки тому +29

    One small visual cut that wasn't mentioned: as Jack lays out the line "the police need a lead, they don't know what they're looking for" they're slowly wheeling Hannibal in during those entire lines. Given that he *is* the lead the police went to to find another serial killer in Buffalo Bill,, Jack is setting up Hannibal's intro without him even needing to say a word.

  • @Mgdoeyt
    @Mgdoeyt 3 роки тому +40

    4:32 horrorcore is a type of rap style where the tone and lyrics are more darker and gruesome

    • @JeshuaSquirrel
      @JeshuaSquirrel 3 роки тому +3

      ICP

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +7

      Ahh like Necro

    • @castleoffiction96
      @castleoffiction96 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeacherEddieHistory If you ever need a chill down your spine, just look for a copy of the instrumental to this rap. Horror core indeed

  • @michaelernst3731
    @michaelernst3731 3 роки тому +28

    IF you do the Peace Symbol is Palm towards the target, the F-U is the Back of the Hand towards the target. Those two fingers were cut off by the french on any English Bowmen caught in the French-English war (think its called the war of Roses or the 100 Years War). So English Bowmen would Show Frenchies See I STILL have them !

  • @shawndennis6529
    @shawndennis6529 3 роки тому +8

    My daughter wrote papers on Jack the ripper, at the time it was believed Mary Kelly was the peak of a homicidal rage. They then looked into Mary Kelly's husband, Mary was believed to have associated with the other victims. And rumors were about along with alleged sightings of Mary with another man. They believed her husband started with killing her friends, trying to scare her away from her lifestyle and with each one it escalated as he got frustrated since more rumors and sightings were still getting back to him. Then at the peak of his rage he killed her himself, unfortunately they couldn't identify or locate the other man. If there was one. So some say he killed the guy and the body was never found or wasn't tied in to the murders, the guy never existed, or the guy had fled. My daughter enjoyed reading about him and researching him, her history teacher didn't seem to mind the more obscure topics she wrote about. I'm guessing he was just happy to see a different topic than what the rest of her class was writing about.

  • @kunnyfunte8165
    @kunnyfunte8165 3 роки тому +12

    The most compelling thing ive heard from the "jane the ripper theory" (the ripper was actually female) was the explaination they gave for escaping the mary kelly killing. As mary was the second victim of the night and she was brutalised which wouldve maken a rather large gorey mess and taken a long time as the ripper would want to savour and enjoy every moment so it is plausible that the butchery went into the earlier hours of the morning when it wasnt as dark and the ripper felt they had a higher chance to get seen covered in blood if they were female its possible that the ripper changed into a pair of mary kellys clothes to make her escape through the streets of london and as the police already believed they were looking for a male no one would pay much attention to an unassuming peasant looking woman in Victorian england

  • @KomninosA7X
    @KomninosA7X 3 роки тому +40

    Bonnie and Clyde vs Romeo and Juliet is a must. It should bring some interesting commentary out of you 😎

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +10

      Can’t wait

    • @davidcelona8167
      @davidcelona8167 3 роки тому +1

      That battle has the best guest star in the franchise

    • @OBJYN788
      @OBJYN788 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidcelona8167 you know erb has had t-pain and snoop dog in their battles right?

    • @davidcelona8167
      @davidcelona8167 3 роки тому

      @@OBJYN788 Juliet would beat them too

    • @OBJYN788
      @OBJYN788 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidcelona8167 no just no

  • @jereico7587
    @jereico7587 3 роки тому +34

    I got you man. Not correcting, just supplementing.
    1) The "jacking off" line also is because he is JACK the ripper on the track.
    2) Hannibal killed a flutist in Red Dragon because they kept playing a note off-key. But good catch there.
    3) Yes. The attendant was named Barney. He was in all three movies. And the actor was actually in all 4 movies in the original trilogy since Red Dragon was actually done once before in the 80's as Manhunter. The actor played a detective in Manhunter and then Barney in all three Anthony Hopkins movies.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +4

      Yea I totally missed the Jack references

    • @jereico7587
      @jereico7587 3 роки тому +7

      @@TeacherEddieHistory I can't believe it. You caught 8,000 references and yet you let one slip by. How could you? Lol!

    • @jereico7587
      @jereico7587 3 роки тому +4

      @@TeacherEddieHistory also, I'm glad you got yoir licks in on the guy who tried to rob you!

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +11

      @@jereico7587 the shame of missing a Jack off reference may be too much

    • @bryansproles2879
      @bryansproles2879 3 роки тому +1

      There's a major discrepancy between Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon - In Lambs, they find Benjamin Raspail's head in the storage unit, and when asked, Lecter says "I tucked him away exactly as I found him". The head had a moth in the throat, seeming to say that Jame Gumb (Buffalo Bill) had killed him.
      But Raspail WAS a flautist for the philharmonic orchestra, and in Red Dragon, it's completely implied that Lecter killed him and served him to his dinner guests one night. Since Red Dragon came out well after Lambs (about 10-11 years), I guess they were trying to retcon the story.
      By the way, I just found this while looking up some of this info, regarding "I ate his liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti":
      “I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.”
      Great line from Silence of the Lambs everyone knows. But most people don’t realize Dr Hannibal Lecter is making a medical joke.
      Lecter could be treated with drugs called monoamine oxidase inhibitors - MAOIs. As a psychiatrist, Lecter knows this.
      The three things you can’t eat with MAOIs? Liver, beans, wine.
      Lecter is a) cracking a joke for his own amusement, and b) saying he’s not taking his meds.

  • @kratosGOW
    @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +43

    The “who’s the superior serial killer” line from Jack doesn’t really impress me.
    We’re talking about Victorian England. There was no such thing as fingerprint or DNA analysis back then while Hannibal was written to live in the 20th century with A LOT more knowledge and technology available to catch him.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +10

      Very true

    • @LongdownConker
      @LongdownConker 3 роки тому +4

      Ye but hannibal wasn't real

    • @kratosGOW
      @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +6

      @@LongdownConker
      Irrelevant.

    • @LongdownConker
      @LongdownConker 3 роки тому +4

      @@kratosGOW well you can't assume which one police had an easier time with when one of them is completely fictional lol & there absolutely were convictions before finger printing and DNA analysis. In fact there are many crimes today that are prosecuted without either of them. Those are by far not the only tools police use to find and convict people lol

    • @kratosGOW
      @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +5

      @@LongdownConker
      You have completely missed the point.
      Where in my comment do I even imply that it was impossible for police to arrest someone without DNA or fingerprints?
      I said because they were in Victorian era they had much less technology to track down killers then compared with the time of Hannibal. Therefore, I am not impressed by the fact the Jack the Ripper wasn’t caught and he doesn’t get to brag about that because there is a much bigger probability that he would’ve been caught in Hannibal’s time.

  • @darcraven01
    @darcraven01 3 роки тому +17

    you should hit up Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara next..

  • @OathofLight
    @OathofLight 3 роки тому +18

    The "ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti" is actually a very clever medical joke, with Hannibal slyly hinting that he wasn't taking his medications. Look it up. :)

    • @woodchuk1
      @woodchuk1 3 роки тому +2

      As a pharmacist, I caught that immediately. 🙂

    • @OathofLight
      @OathofLight 3 роки тому +1

      @@woodchuk1 That's really cool!

    • @woodchuk1
      @woodchuk1 3 роки тому +5

      For anyone who is interested and doesn’t want to look it up.
      The typical drugs used to treat a person with Dr. Lecter’s pathology at the time the movie was released are a class of drugs called MAO inhibitors. If these drugs are taken with foods that are high in a substance called tyramine, it can cause hypertensive crisis, sometimes even a stroke. Among the foods richest in tyramine include, you guessed it, fava beans, liver, and red wine. As a psychiatrist, Dr. Lecter would undoubtedly be aware of these drugs and their cautions. Since Dr. Lecter obviously is not in hypertensive crisis, it stands to reason that he is not taking his meds. Nowadays, however, there are classes of drugs that are more effective than MAO inhibitors with less side effects, so the tyramine restriction would not apply to these newer meds.

  • @pringleton
    @pringleton 3 роки тому +10

    Some of their flows are great and I love the score of this too, sometimes it gets overlooked because of the quality of the production as a whole but felt they captured a dark menacing vibe really well. You know I'm a big fan of Dan Bull already, you were talking about some of the harshest burns in ERB so you gotta do that Goku vs Superman then...

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +3

      They captured creep factor very well, especially Dan Bull.’

  • @jereico7587
    @jereico7587 3 роки тому +6

    Dan Bull also did one of the most badass video game raps of all time with his Skyrim rap.

  • @kratosGOW
    @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +9

    The "people these days are watching Dexter" line was to point out that not only is Hannibal fictional but he's not even the most relevant fictional serial killer.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +6

      Yea I got that, just it's one of those time capsule references that don't sting once people are like, "what's a dexter?" or confuse it with Dexter's Lab...

    • @kratosGOW
      @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeacherEddieHistory
      Most references are going to be outdated at some point or another.
      You could be sent just in the past 50 years or so and the jargon you would’ve gained through your life would be incomprehensible to even English speakers.

  • @amandaski
    @amandaski 3 роки тому +7

    This is an epic battle. One of their best.
    I think I subscribe to Jack the Ripper most likely being Joseph Barnett, who was Mary Kelly's boyfriend. He is the only suspect to have a direct link to one of the victims, who can be placed at the scene of a murder the night before it happened. 11 hours later, her body is discovered by her landlord. They also appeared to have fought, sometimes quite violently, throughout the end of their relationship. Some witness statements of the time suggested Barnett didn't like Kelly prostituting and that it was the main cause of their arguments. Barnett was also thought to be essentially kicked out on the streets around the onset of the Ripper killings, when Mary had started working again. The Ripper being Barnett would also account for why the killings seemingly ceased with the death of Mary Kelly.
    This is obviously all circumstantial, but I think it's the strongest evidence we have.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +3

      Yes I’ve heard that theory and it does seem to hold a lot of weight. It’s a fascinating piece of history albeit terrifying.

  • @TDM1138
    @TDM1138 3 роки тому +6

    Horrorcore is a type of rap, focusing on horror or more brutal lyrics. ICP considers themselves horrorcore but I know there’s others not related to them that are harder and try to be scarier.
    Edit: Gotta give major props that you got Jack propping up himself one his verse before Hannibal comes in. Really enjoy these videos dude.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +5

      Ah yes makes sense, like Necro would definitely be horrorcore

    • @lucidloon
      @lucidloon 3 роки тому +2

      @@TeacherEddieHistory Wow, exactly who I was going to mention until I expanded the thread.

  • @Zangetsu248
    @Zangetsu248 3 роки тому +4

    Just want to point out the "Fava beans, and chianti, I'd pair with your liver line" is even better, because in the movies the Psych meds prescribed for Lecter are not supposed to be taken with beans, Liver, or Wine. LEcter is directly telling them he's off his meds the entire time and no one caught it.

  • @Pr1nceAres
    @Pr1nceAres 3 роки тому +4

    Idk if you will see this but i read somewhere that in Victorian England they used to steralize urine and use it to clean their clothes, or use it on their clothes in general. Thats what i think he is reffering to

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +2

      During WWI, soldiers would urinate on their handkerchief and hold it over their mouths during mustard gas attacks. The urine would cause the chlorine gas to crystalize in the handkerchief, thus stop it from entering the lungs. In short:Urine not only made your whites cleaner, but your colors brighter URINE SAVES LIVES!

    • @Pr1nceAres
      @Pr1nceAres 3 роки тому +1

      No fucking way i got hearted 0_0, love ya dude !!!

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      @@Pr1nceAres Thank you, I appreciate you

  • @austinfrostin4962
    @austinfrostin4962 3 роки тому +6

    Love the reactions I will hopefully be starting a history degree next year. I thought that perhaps Jack the Ripper got his name from Spring-heeled Jack since some books mentioned he had claws so that would rip his victims apart.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Good luck Austin and if you ever need any help, reach out.

    • @HuskyDog88
      @HuskyDog88 4 місяці тому

      @@TeacherEddieHistory This rap battle came out in 2014, 7 years before you did this video.

  • @TextrovertSolidork-KT
    @TextrovertSolidork-KT 6 місяців тому

    I think it was in the comments section of another react channel, I think Scru Face Jean but I could be wrong, but Dan Bull actually explained why his first part didn’t attack Hannibal. Apparently he wrote that as kind of like a demo to show Peter and Lloyd, and they liked it so much they wanted to use it as it was. When he wrote his parts, he never even heard the lines they wrote for Hannibal

  • @Mr_Cellophane
    @Mr_Cellophane 3 роки тому +1

    Big fan here. I also haven't seen the movie in at least a decade. But if I remember right, the line about being naughty but sloppy is a nod to Lecter actually scolding Buffalo Bill about the way he committed his murders. And one thing I always find interesting is that one revolving theory about Jack is that it was actually a Jacqueline. A woman who had been betrayed by her husband or s.o. with a prostitute and she was killed at sea while trying to escape London.

  • @TheBepis1309
    @TheBepis1309 3 роки тому +2

    You might say Hannibal is a... "psycho analyst"
    Ok, I'll see myself out.

  • @chaddon7685
    @chaddon7685 3 роки тому +3

    The Ray Liotta name is nicer than you think!
    Just like Jack to chase a HEADLINE, pick Ray Liotta's brain and ask him how I get MINE (referring back to headlines like the line in Ray's head when he would close his skull.
    I actually didn't catch it until watching your reaction lol.

  • @eveyd602
    @eveyd602 3 роки тому +1

    The whole thing about Fava Beans and a nice Chianti was actually a subtle clue from Dr. Lecter to Clarice. Because at the time it takes place he would have been prescribed an MAOI and things you can't consume while on MAOIs is Liver, Beans, and Wine. So he's basically telling Clarice he's off his meds right to her face.
    Also you might want to listen to Silence! the Musical for a chuckle

  • @LukeZwarteVacht
    @LukeZwarteVacht 3 роки тому +1

    From Hell was an Alan Moore graphic novel from 1989.
    It won several awards.

  • @blaksoul889
    @blaksoul889 3 роки тому +1

    correct me if im wrong but when hannibal said "ham fisted attempt"
    isnt that a reference to the Black Dahlia murder?

  • @joeperez8979
    @joeperez8979 3 роки тому +3

    Please react to Hawking vs Einstein.

  • @DrawingZerberus
    @DrawingZerberus 3 роки тому

    Finally someone who appreciates the same aspects and with even more trivial knowledge about them all which are necessary I think to understand what make these so good and for now 100% same favorites going in and same winners for the same reasons, makes my opinion feel well understood

  • @JourneywiththeJoyners
    @JourneywiththeJoyners 3 роки тому +4

    Early Three 6 Mafia was horrorcore Dj Paul Lord Infamous, koopsta on “favorite scary movie” is a classic.

  • @williamwramp3402
    @williamwramp3402 2 роки тому

    Penny dreadfuls are also a type of literature that started around the jack the ripper time they were short horror stories for a penny hence the name

  • @kratosGOW
    @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +6

    Great reactions! You definitely should react to Wolverine vs Freddy Krueger!
    Not really history, but definitely nerdy and horror stuff!

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +3

      Well it combines two loves, 80’s horror and comics, so I’m in.

  • @Bastet674
    @Bastet674 3 роки тому

    Horror core is an aesthetic thing with music, fashion, decor based on horror movies, books, stories.

  • @kratosGOW
    @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +1

    Hannibal’s pronunciation of “Chianti” is very much acceptable for American English. The only thing that changes if you want to pronounce it as Italians would is adding an emphasis on the “IAN” in the middle.
    K-IAAAAAN-ti
    And “an” is pronounced like the French word “encore”.

  • @danieljodrey8863
    @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому +3

    You're a beast Eddie. So cool.
    Loved this one.
    Only miss: how many times he said Jack - jacket, jack off etc. In his opening verse.

    • @leteldo
      @leteldo 3 роки тому +2

      He's the machine

    • @danieljodrey8863
      @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому +1

      @@leteldo that was good for a belly laugh right there. ,👍👍
      ✌️😎

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      I was so tired, I usually never miss a Jack off

    • @LINKINPARK262
      @LINKINPARK262 3 роки тому +1

      You could've gone with saying that he was the be(a)st. That's what I saw in my head when I read your comment anyway.
      Damn LSD flashbacks from the 80s acting up again.

    • @danieljodrey8863
      @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому

      @@LINKINPARK262 maybe next time.

  • @xheralt
    @xheralt 3 роки тому +1

    Just to add, the "head line" Lecter refers to is the Sharpie line sugeons draw on flesh to lay out where they are going to cut; Ray Liotta's line was of course across his forehead...

  • @everyones-a-cryptic
    @everyones-a-cryptic 3 роки тому

    LOVE how you mentioned NBC Hannibal at the beginning, I feel like a lot of people sleep on that masterpiece

  • @leteldo
    @leteldo 3 роки тому +2

    Zdarova Eddie! Awesome videos man, and so much insight in each one. Btw, since you've been reacting to Miyagi's songs, I would love to see your reactions to Timati's songs like Boroda, Derzkaya, Baklazhan, etc. Much love and respect. Eastside

  • @bray2380
    @bray2380 3 роки тому +1

    I'm also pretty fascinated with serial killers (and killers) in general from a psychological perspective and how they got to that point. I also take special interest in not just how they got to that point, but how society enables them.
    Like how Albert Fish intentionally chose people who "would not be missed". Or how Junko Furuta's case in Japan showed how the not just the police system failed her, but everyone around her. Especially the justice system after she died, which continues to fail to put her killers behind bars despite them going on to commit more crimes.
    It's interesting how a culture in a society can affect these things.
    Anyway, great video! I love your expositions on the lines and history! 💚 I look forward to watching more.

  • @vinnie666
    @vinnie666 9 місяців тому

    I always liked the theory that Jack was the queen's surgeon practicing for something.
    Oh! Have you heard the band "skynd"? Think you'd like em.

  • @BigBisdotdotdot
    @BigBisdotdotdot 3 роки тому +5

    Dang, I was hoping he was going to watch it to the end.

  • @DrowningSorrows1
    @DrowningSorrows1 2 роки тому

    From wikipedia: "Horrorcore is a subgenre of hip hop music based on horror-themed and often darkly transgressive lyrical content and imagery."
    I like a lot of it. Try stuff like Geto Boys, Insane Poetry, Dayton Family, Brotha Lynch Hung or old school Three Six Mafia or Cage Kennylz.

  • @famineinfernal1
    @famineinfernal1 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for appreciating the Hannibal TV show. Underrated in my opinion
    Edit: if you like true crime stuff there is a band called SKYND which is a band that just song about Serial Killers among other stuff.
    EDIT 2: Penny Dreadful is great, hope you enjoy it.

  • @dankelz
    @dankelz 2 роки тому

    I think the 'Horrorcore' line was a reference to Dan Bull's own line of rap and culture, 'Nerdcore'

  • @kratosGOW
    @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +1

    Hugo Laurie being a full on Brit after I had basically just known him for House MD blew my mind as well. The guy who played Daredevil on the Netflix show is also a Brit and I was impressed.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      All the best American heroes are British, another one is Jax Teller from Sons of Anarchy... blew my mind

    • @kratosGOW
      @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeacherEddieHistory
      I just remembered: You have reacted to Jack The Ripper vs Hannibal Lecter (this video) so I think you’d really like Steven King vs Edgar Allan Poe (you did enjoy the Cask of Amontillado reference from Pennywise).

    • @kratosGOW
      @kratosGOW 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeacherEddieHistory
      The first time I saw Wolverine in the first X-men I thought he was American. He is really convincing with his accent all throughout his 9 movie portrayals. But nope: he’s an Aussie. 😂

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      @@kratosGOW and he can sing and dance!

  • @patwilson9186
    @patwilson9186 3 роки тому

    I believe the "English middle finger" gester is a reference to the french and Indian war with Native American Bowman killing a lot of British soldiers

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 3 роки тому +1

    my theory is about Jack The Ripper is that he was a Policeman, so he knew how not to get caught because he knew when and where the patrols would be going on. that being said, i do believe that he probably had some medical training, but in the end he became a cop instead so that he could act on his darkest impulses without fear of discovery. i dont believe his murders was anything short of pre-meditated either, especially the last one, i think he knew Kelly well and probably even loved her, but she hurt him somehow and in revenge he took his time with her to the point that he had lost his desire to kill anymore.

  • @songofstorms7870
    @songofstorms7870 2 роки тому

    Katherine Eddowes, one of Jack the Rippers victims, was my great great great aunt.

  • @tbonbrad
    @tbonbrad 3 роки тому +1

    *Jack reads paper
    How the fuck do they know my name?

  • @majinsole8554
    @majinsole8554 3 роки тому +1

    You can hear the sound of Hannibal slurping when he mentions the line about liver and Chianti in the background of the music, just like he did in the movie.
    ~_~

  • @neneka
    @neneka 3 роки тому

    One of theory I see commonly spoken of is he left england ,another is he left england and was actually H H Holmes.

  • @quinnflorence
    @quinnflorence 3 роки тому

    Easter egg the female crys/screams were referring to Jack’s victims the Five women he did kill and the theoretical 11 women he killed over all.

  • @akilcharles3473
    @akilcharles3473 3 роки тому +4

    Just a quick heads up wait till the end of each of these rap battles you may be suprise of what you see.

  • @WizardPandora
    @WizardPandora 3 роки тому +3

    After his crimes stopped in England, they found a few women murdered exactly like his signature in the "new world" but because it was only 2, they didn't tie it to him for sure

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Yes I’ve heard that a while back

    • @WizardPandora
      @WizardPandora 3 роки тому

      @Julio Cesar wouldn't shock me, since many serial killers feed on the publicity

  • @DarkAngel1985Mike
    @DarkAngel1985Mike 2 роки тому

    One of my favorite tracks because I love Horrorcore and horror movies and serial killer history

  • @Goldfella-X
    @Goldfella-X 3 роки тому +1

    Hannibal also never blinked, which is such a cool creepy thing

  • @zarakikon6352
    @zarakikon6352 3 роки тому +3

    Jack's look gives me a Mr. Hyde vibe too. 😊😆👍

  • @legendaryanime9947
    @legendaryanime9947 3 роки тому +1

    Love that film "From Hell". Being a London Boy, always intersting to see anything Jack the Ripper

  • @FartSniffer2
    @FartSniffer2 3 роки тому +5

    History is your job and rap is something you know a lot about. Then there's Knox Hill; rap is his job and history something he knows a lot about. And you two have the best analyses of ERB :D I'm a big fan.

    • @FartSniffer2
      @FartSniffer2 3 роки тому +1

      Also I don't know if you and him know each other, but I feel like you'd get along well. Check out his videos!

  • @DJoka10001
    @DJoka10001 3 роки тому

    Horrorcore: is a style of rap and hip-hop that mostly involves lines of murder and/or mutilation, of which sometimes sounding so extreme and asinine that it's damn near comical. This genre is usually more akin to rappers like Eminem, Techn9ne, Hopsin, Jokerr ect.

  • @wafflecult27
    @wafflecult27 11 місяців тому

    the beat slaps so fucking hard

  • @Keyleey
    @Keyleey 3 роки тому +7

    Its when listening to this specific rap that makes me want to take up a double major with criminal psychology but that would be to much right now.
    As for the 7/7 bombers line I kind of get it. Sure terrorists are scary, but in instances like this, it seems any ways they are caught relatively quickly so their terror is short lived. However, in someone like Jack the Ripper and other serial killer is the longevity which can lead to more terror because the unknown of time will bring between each period. This instills a longer lasting terror in people. But if the line is comparing Jack himself as a terrorist, eeeehh its mediocre.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Yea I been there with wanting to major in everything. I did just the minor in undergrad but then went for a double masters

  • @Delcattiy
    @Delcattiy 3 роки тому

    Idk if anyone noticed but in Jack's second verse you can hear FIVE SEPARATE feminine screams in the background, and it is recorded that Jack the Ripper killed 5 women

  • @ashleyhammond4711
    @ashleyhammond4711 3 роки тому +1

    Eddie: "I haven't seen that movie in 20 years"
    Also Eddie: *word for word quoting*
    Also, not historical, but you should react to EpicLloyd's Dis-raps for Hire :)

  • @espada4841
    @espada4841 3 роки тому +1

    I always found looking into the Jack the Ripper murders to be interesting.

  • @MCNinja38TR1
    @MCNinja38TR1 2 роки тому

    I feel like this battle got more of Dan Bull's natural style than Winston Churchill vs Theodore Roosevelt

  • @enkeli19
    @enkeli19 3 роки тому

    There's the "Canonical 5" Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly. There may have been others, there were other victims unil 1891, but not all were attributed to Jack.
    Just a random thought, would you ever do this with your students? I forget what grade you teach. We all had to make newspapers of events that happened on our birthdays, famous births, famous deaths and historical events. Because my birthday is August 31st, I had Mary Ann Nichols as a famous death, I also had that Richard Ramirez "The Night Stalker" was captured THE night I was born and Princess Diana also died on my birthday...

  • @princess_shymiera
    @princess_shymiera 7 місяців тому

    This rap battle reminds me of an arc of my favorite manga, Black Butler. (WARNING: SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE MANGA)
    The main character and his butler investigate the unalivings of "Night Ladies" in Victorian England. The culprits turn out to be the main character's aunt and her butler (who's really a grim reaper)

  • @AspieMediaBobby
    @AspieMediaBobby 3 роки тому +1

    Another fun fact:Jack the Ripper although still unknown has been speculated to be a Polish Jewish immigrant and mental patient named Aaron Kosminski based on forensics testing although some argue those tests may have been "contaminated" and Hannibal in "Hannibal Rising" is revealed to be a descendant of Lithuanian-French Holocaust survivors raised by his Japanese aunt so it`s possible the two might both be Jewish like you and I!

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Yes I read up on him and it seemed like case closed but the “evidence” was contaminated for sure after gathering all the facts. At this point it’s impossible to truly prove it but makes for fun debating

  • @Azurko
    @Azurko 3 роки тому

    Flipping the V in the UK does mean fuck off. Legend has it that before a battle in the Hundred Years War, some French commander was rumored to have said to cut off the index & middle finger of any longbowmen that were captured so they could no longer fire a bow. After the battle (that the British won), as the captured French were being led away the longbowmen would "flip the V" to show them that "fuck you, we still have our fingers".
    Made the mistake of doing it to a British buddy that came over. Went to a bar and he asked how many drinks to get and I said 2 while gesturing, not paying attention to how my hand was positioned.

  • @DoomMomDot
    @DoomMomDot 8 місяців тому

    Ironically, in both the book and the movie Lector actually helps Clare work through some childhood trauma.

  • @matekiss6981
    @matekiss6981 3 роки тому +4

    You should really watch Penny Dreadful, it's awesome. And Eva Green is a Femme Fatale.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      I think I tried a while back and couldn’t get into it. I have such limited time and I love watching documentaries so TV shows become like a treat for me. So much to catch up on.

    • @ThomasVanhala
      @ThomasVanhala 3 роки тому +2

      Penny Dreadful is also a derogatory name for a cheap low quality story magazines you be able to buy for a penny on street corners in Victorian and Edwardian England. There was also other more successful magazines like "The Strand" that had stories from Doyle, Kipling, Wells and many more.

  • @theistell
    @theistell 3 роки тому +3

    Watch Raps for Hire they’re also good and by the same ppl

  • @matshjalmarsson3008
    @matshjalmarsson3008 2 роки тому

    Well, the graphical novel From Hell was the original that the movie was kind of based on

  • @Bobal27
    @Bobal27 3 роки тому +1

    Just to be that guy, we don’t go “Ha HA!” We share with you the deep cuts we appreciated, and that if you had caught, would’ve made your analysis more accurate, from having more data. People not unlike myself typically don’t preface their additions to your lore with a “great job, but here’s a couple more pieces of info.” It’s just implied. If we didn’t like your video, we wouldn’t try to help you like the battle more. We’re called “lazy.”

    • @Bobal27
      @Bobal27 3 роки тому +1

      Also, in Victorian England, they still used human urine as a laundry bleaching agent. Ammonia is another common cleaning agent found in “piss.”

  • @aspieanarchist5439
    @aspieanarchist5439 Рік тому

    To be fair, Hannibal`s of French, Lithuanian Jewish and Japanese descent and played by a Welshman, Frenchman(R.I.P. Gaspard Ulliel), Dane and Scotsman so his American accent being as good as it is is impressive.

  • @Ryyi23
    @Ryyi23 3 роки тому

    My personal favorite Dan Bull rap is "40 Years of Gaming"

  • @Yezhanium
    @Yezhanium 3 роки тому +1

    Nice one, as usual. Wouldn't mind hearing that Che vs Guy breakdown. *wink-wink*

  • @sacrilegious9584
    @sacrilegious9584 3 роки тому +1

    Do more of these bro

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      I started 3 weeks ago and have 13 done already 😊 check out playlist on the channel page or the description

    • @sacrilegious9584
      @sacrilegious9584 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeacherEddieHistory Not to be weird, but I already watched all of them 🤣 Needa come out with more brodie 👌🏼

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      @@sacrilegious9584 well damn! Challenge accepted my good man!

  • @Kellobytes
    @Kellobytes 3 роки тому

    Jack the rippers identity was actually discovered last year in 2020 with DNA evidence. We finally got the technology to discover these things. It was Aaron Kosminski. One of the first people to have been interviewed by police. The barber.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Later on it was shown the DNA was tampered with and unreliable

  • @bowlining
    @bowlining 3 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a rematch with TV Hannibal version

  • @reyk3524
    @reyk3524 3 роки тому

    4:37 Horrorcore is a sub-genre of hip-hop. Rap artists who deal with morbid subjects in their texts are assigned to this style. Often the scenarios are borrowed from horror or splatter films and deal with murder, suicide, necrophilia, satanism and / or rape, etc.

  • @jasonsutcliffe1973
    @jasonsutcliffe1973 2 роки тому

    I love this but Jack sent half a kidney to a newspaper and said he fried and ate the other half whereas Lecter is supposed to have eaten a liver with fava beans.

  • @ioelaurelius9475
    @ioelaurelius9475 3 роки тому

    Late to this, but the line about jack’s body being covered in piss might also be a reference to the theory that he died in the sewers which he would used to make his escape.

  • @manuelpacheco9790
    @manuelpacheco9790 3 роки тому +3

    Hey teach, seeing you have fun about history made me think. Should I change my major to history? I love history so much and love explaining the stories and lessons of ages past, then relating them to the current issues to my siblings. But I wouldnt know what to do with a bachelor in history since I was always taught that money is important ( low income family) so im doing banking and finance at the moment. But teaching sounds wonderful to me, I want to tell others the stories of history. Do you think you could maybe make a video about your journey to becoming a teacher and how you enjoy it? The differences between elementary, middle school, high school and collegiate classrooms if youve taught them? Or am I just a "grass is greener on the other side?" Thanks if you read this and hope youre doing well

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +1

      Manuel I can add your question for this Thursday’s live stream, I can definitely give some advice. Live streams are every Thursday at 7pm EST plus you can ask me some follow ups or watch it recorded the next day. I promise I’ll answer your question.

    • @manuelpacheco9790
      @manuelpacheco9790 3 роки тому

      @@TeacherEddieHistory thank you for the reply, cant wait to see what you respond on Thursday!

  • @MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4p
    @MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4p 3 роки тому +1

    It was the 7th of July 2005.

  • @LINKINPARK262
    @LINKINPARK262 3 роки тому

    I can't believe that not one person in ALL of these comments pointed out that Hannibal didn't eat Ray Liotta's brain, Ray did.
    How tf did a absentminded old bat like me notice that first?

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому

      Well he did eat it on the plane once he escaped

    • @LINKINPARK262
      @LINKINPARK262 3 роки тому

      @@TeacherEddieHistory See? I told you that I'm absentminded.

  • @zhoupact8567
    @zhoupact8567 3 роки тому

    The Dexter line works just fine. The point naturally was that Hannibal will be forgotten really quick, while Jack, even 200 years from now is sure to have a place and be remembered.
    The 7/7 bombers is the same. Who even cares about that event at this point? Will people talk about the 7/7 bombers? Did the 7/7 bombers manage to create a lasting sting of fear in london? Not really. People moved on. But Jack, he is still a source of horror and will stay so.

  • @hansolav5924
    @hansolav5924 3 роки тому +1

    inb4 Jack's revealed to be a hero, responsible for fending of an alien invasion attempted by sending in agents posing as ladies of the night. (would give them a few more options than emulating that other kind of person 'decent people' don't see) :) or also, the victims contained something he needed. and having collected it, he vanished as he'd come.

  • @galerios1
    @galerios1 Рік тому

    I just tripped the fuck out. My CC setting somehow got set to Indonesian! 🤣How did that even happen!

  • @sabalos
    @sabalos 3 роки тому

    In the film, Lecter pronounces chianti with a hard k-sound, which as far as I know is the correct way to to pronounce it. He maybe makes the a-sound in the middle short where it should be long, though.
    In the book he actually doesn't say chianti at all for that line. Instead he pairs it with an amarone. Apparently fatty foods like liver go better with a big red wine like an amarone - the filmmakers just thought chianti was a wine their audience was more likely to have heard of.

  • @BEEDRILL303
    @BEEDRILL303 3 роки тому

    Horror core would be like cottage core it's a type of aesthetic

  • @jagerzaku9160
    @jagerzaku9160 3 роки тому

    I could listen to your voice all day, very satisfying

  • @GentlyUsedFrog
    @GentlyUsedFrog 3 роки тому +2

    One of my favourites!
    Talking about Dexter, I wouldn't mind seeing a battle with him. I don't know who against though...
    Love Dexter. Michael C. Hall is great.

    • @TeacherEddieHistory
      @TeacherEddieHistory  3 роки тому +2

      He was great, Dexter vs Thanos would’ve been good because they both think that they kill for “right reasons” that better mankind

    • @GentlyUsedFrog
      @GentlyUsedFrog 3 роки тому

      @@TeacherEddieHistory True, Thanos does fit the bill. I don't know who else does as I don't watch many things...

  • @jeffp6426
    @jeffp6426 3 роки тому +5

    You're getting greedy with these thumbs ups. I have to ask, have you ever seen the musical Hamilton? I'm assuming you have. I'd be shocked if you haven't. But reacting to (or breaking down) some of the songs from that from an actual historical perspective could be fascinating. I would suggest "one last time" as a good place to start either way.

    • @danieljodrey8863
      @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому

      I'd be happy if he did Kathryn Ryan's bit on Hamilton, but be ready to be shocked, he's said he hasn't seen it yet.

    • @jeffp6426
      @jeffp6426 3 роки тому

      @@danieljodrey8863 shocked by the inaccuracies in hamilton? Maybe but I know it's far from a biography. When did he say he hasn't seen it though? Do you actually know him irl?

    • @danieljodrey8863
      @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому

      @@jeffp6426he told me in a reply to a comment on a different subject. I only know him from You Tube.

    • @jeffp6426
      @jeffp6426 3 роки тому

      @@danieljodrey8863 interesting. What do you think, is one last time a decent place to start? I know starting at the beginning seems like the easier choice I just thought maybe picking one that's closer to historical accuracy (and a phenomenal song in general) might get him hooked into doing the whole thing song by song haha.

    • @danieljodrey8863
      @danieljodrey8863 3 роки тому

      @@jeffp6426 I haven't seen the play or the filming of it either. Have you seen Kathryn Ryan?

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 3 роки тому

    “Good luck to you in your holy cause, captain. May your choices have better results than mine. Remembered not as a messenger, remembered not as a reformer, not as a prophet, not as a hero, not even as Sebastian. Remembered only as Jack.”

  • @CloudIchigoNaruto
    @CloudIchigoNaruto 3 роки тому

    i didn't knew you knew french expresions :) im CA fr

  • @MrTrellheim
    @MrTrellheim 3 роки тому +2

    This battle has some of the best beats ever in the ERB franchise. And the rhymes are sick.
    If you want to take a rest from ERB, are you familiar with "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris"? You can find it here. It's an old video but still funny.
    ua-cam.com/video/hWTFG3J1CP8/v-deo.html