How Ursaluna Makes Full Trick Room Viable For the First Time

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
  • Ursaluna has singledhandedly made Trick Room a viable strategy in singles. This has rarely ever happened before
    This is referring to hard trick room, the playstyle
    Other pokemon have OTR (Own Trick Room) in the past, Bronzong and Reuniclus come to mind
    correction at 538, average *defensive typing
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  • @borby4584
    @borby4584 Рік тому +874

    I'm really glad to see that Ursaluna lived up to the hype, because man it was hyped

    • @rontheauraknight9606
      @rontheauraknight9606 Рік тому +12

      Really? I saw an lot of people say it was gonna be an BL or UU Mon

    • @kond7664
      @kond7664 Рік тому +85

      @@rontheauraknight9606 Ursaluna hype went through two distinct phases
      "Ursaluna's 100% going to be ubers look at this thing" > "Ursaluna would have been ubers in gen 8 but gen 9's way too powercreeped for it to be scary" > You are here.

    • @rontheauraknight9606
      @rontheauraknight9606 Рік тому +5

      @@kond7664 all I said is what I saw not what I personally thought. Me personally I thought it was going to be BL but with an solid OU niche. I underestimated both its bulk and it actually making Trick room Viable lol.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 Рік тому

      Yeah I saw a lot of clowns say at best ursaluna was going to be uu and how iron hands and great tusk invalidate it. Lol they were wrong

    • @davidtowers1863
      @davidtowers1863 Рік тому +4

      I saw that PLA catching race tournament Wolfy did with like. RTgame, Smant, Xray but not Vav and so on.
      It's performance in that was unbelievable

  • @Ashelybee
    @Ashelybee Рік тому +1417

    Imagining hitting so hard you just make a strategy that's not very good in singles somehow viable

    • @lancelindlelee7256
      @lancelindlelee7256 Рік тому +115

      Imagine hitting so hard that you make a previously unviable strategy suspect to being banned.

    • @asterlofts1565
      @asterlofts1565 Рік тому +21

      The big boy bear destroy all with the fury paws with the power of the angry. XD

    • @Ecl1pse_15
      @Ecl1pse_15 Рік тому +5

      ​@@asterlofts1565 ?

    • @Aeirion
      @Aeirion Рік тому +4

      Oh, me? I just like hurting people.

    • @funkytoasts4768
      @funkytoasts4768 Рік тому +18

      Honestly in Ubers last gen trick room was fun to play with melmetal, glastrier and kyogre

  • @calvinnguyen1870
    @calvinnguyen1870 Рік тому +663

    I love Ursaluna. It’s just so blatantly powerful with its one major flaw actually becoming a strength under Trick Room. This thing is gonna an absolute gigachad in VGC.

    • @yophono5929
      @yophono5929 Рік тому +39

      And ruin the format and worlds in the process. Yeeeeeeey.

    • @_RogueRage
      @_RogueRage Рік тому +12

      Well not in VCG because if someone sees Ursaluna they will almost always double into the trickroom setter I have yet to lose to Ursaluna truck room team in VGC. Shadowrider Calyrex is by far the most effective at killing trick rooms setters for me.

    • @Azusashusband
      @Azusashusband Рік тому +103

      ​@@_RogueRage bro thats an unrestricted meta you won't be using that rider in ranked while luna gets to run free

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Рік тому +21

      So hyped to see Ursaluna get added to the game just before worlds alongside a slew of other broken shit that are added alongside it to throw the meta into complete disarray
      Yay fun time, I love Gamefreak and how they handle things 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

    • @_RogueRage
      @_RogueRage Рік тому +2

      @@Azusashusband oh that’s true then I would just run imprison trickroom gengar

  • @dragonarrow5525
    @dragonarrow5525 Рік тому +69

    can't wait for "why people run level 99 ursaluna" in 2 weeks if this team becomes meta and your best chance is to underspeed opposing ursaluna

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 Рік тому +375

    Fun fact: this isn't the first time trick room has been a viable play style in OU. Trick room offensive bronzong was a real metagame threat in gen 4 OU that used the massive power of gyro ball and explosion to wallbreak for its team, which often had other pokemon that could make use of extra trick room turns or otherwise punish the things that wall it like rotom and skarm. Obviously not a full trick room team like whats happening with gen 9, but i think its worth a mention

    • @TheSpeep
      @TheSpeep Рік тому +23

      I remember looking at Bronzong in Diamond as a kid and just wishing it got Curse.
      Imagine what that could do!

    • @majintv24
      @majintv24 Рік тому +7

      Alolan marowak could be good in past gens but was more of a rogue strategy than high tier.

    • @MacZephyrZ
      @MacZephyrZ Рік тому +19

      Trick Room Reuniclus has been dabbled in as a late game cleaner from my understanding, functioning essentially like an agility sweeper.
      Not sure how much it actually got used in OU, but it makes sense on paper.

    • @majintv24
      @majintv24 Рік тому +1

      @@MacZephyrZ some usage but cm magic gaurd and regenerator usuaply were used more

    • @indiradevi8136
      @indiradevi8136 Рік тому +4

      ​@@MacZephyrZ tr reni was great in bw ou. Just shit on faster teams trying to dink on cm reuni. U change the speed matchup.

  • @GuyFromCanada
    @GuyFromCanada Рік тому +266

    I would say this is Oricorio Sensu's time to shine, since it's naturally immune to both stabs... but then I realized that Ursaluna just gets crunch too, and then Oricorio dies. Violently.

    • @amir9178
      @amir9178 Рік тому +43

      Stall has been trying to incorporate Drifblim. But according to an unofficial Stall tierlist it's ranked as C-.

    • @harshsinha1896
      @harshsinha1896 Рік тому +17

      I thought of using Drifblim with Rocky Helmet and Aftermath. It works now but once Ursaluna starts to run Crunch, it's of no use.

    • @herhhetj5372
      @herhhetj5372 Рік тому +17

      Imagine forgetting that a bear can bite u lol

    • @harshsinha1896
      @harshsinha1896 Рік тому

      @@herhhetj5372 lol

    • @benjaminschmitt1562
      @benjaminschmitt1562 Рік тому +5

      Early Gen normal type = infinite coverage, remember?

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Рік тому +45

    ursaluna feels like a mega evolution in a meta where all other megas are gone.

    • @broidkanymore-zc4lt
      @broidkanymore-zc4lt Місяць тому

      the infamous flame orb i hate it when my enemies use it to mega evolve their guts pokemon

  • @DonNextDoor286
    @DonNextDoor286 Рік тому +24

    Can’t wait to see the Five Turns In Trick Room movie this October

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 Рік тому +13

      Ursaluna's eyes turn red to signify it's been burned by its Flame Orb

  • @Quicksilvir
    @Quicksilvir Рік тому +63

    It's worth noting that there are additional axis to this scale such as set-up cost and strength if the strategy fails. If old Trick Room failed you were stuck with a bunch of slow bulky pokemon that aren't viable otherwise. While old sand or water left you with good attackers with decent offensive and defensive presence. Ursaluna being good on its own is a huge help.
    The change in cost can be seen in doubles where a lower cost of using only 1 of your 2 actions makes tailwind more profitable (plus the gen 8 speed changes making boosting your partner a bigger payoff). Meanwhile a lower payoff of way less switching makes stealth rocks near non-existent.

    • @roku144
      @roku144 Рік тому

      Would you be able to clarify the Gen 8 speed changes?

    • @LilyTengoku
      @LilyTengoku Рік тому +3

      ​@@roku144in gen 8 onwards, speed changes are dynamic - they apply immediately on the turn they were used, unlike earlier gens where turn order is calculated at the beginning of the turn, so speed changes don't take effect till NEXT turn
      basically unimportant for singles cause theres only two pokemon who move but has an impact on doubles where theres up to 4.

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 Рік тому

      ​@@LilyTengokuThank you for explaining that! I didn't know about it since i've been away from pokémon for awhile! That's a small change that make such a big difference, also didn't know how it worked in earlier gens, like the details!

    • @wren5413
      @wren5413 Рік тому

      @@raphaelkhoury218That one change made Whimsicott consistently a top 5 mon in Gen 8 Vgc because the combination of Prankster and Tailwind was absolutely broken. The same combination made Murkrow the single best mon in series 1 of Gen 9 Vgc

  • @megamanzero29
    @megamanzero29 Рік тому +160

    It’s ridiculous how Ursaluna can go up against non tera ghost Corviknight and still win

    • @tobias9790
      @tobias9790 Рік тому +1

      Can it win versus skarm?

    • @jonathanchen1834
      @jonathanchen1834 Рік тому +33

      @@tobias9790 i mean its pretty widely agreed upon that corv is better than skarm so probably

    • @franbh94
      @franbh94 Рік тому +26

      ​@@tobias9790 Freezai has another video talking about the Corvikinght vs Skarmory dilemma.
      In short, Corvi has higher HP and lower defense than Skarm but that makes it tank hits better.

    • @MrMonkey2150
      @MrMonkey2150 Рік тому

      @@jonathanchen1834 na skarm is better then corv in every way, including design

    • @morphstarchangeling8024
      @morphstarchangeling8024 Рік тому +9

      @@MrMonkey2150 Objectively wrong, not on the design part.

  • @JanizMakudomaru
    @JanizMakudomaru Рік тому +44

    Im so happy and satisfied that I live in the timeline where Ursaring's evolution not only exists but it also is running the meta cuz its so strong. Fist to the air for XD GoD.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 Рік тому +4

      Same. I love Ursaring and was mad it was being slept on all this time. No one’s sleeping now

    • @JanizMakudomaru
      @JanizMakudomaru Рік тому +4

      @@TheNadroj10 except in the graaaaave!!!!

  • @Shin3y
    @Shin3y Рік тому +52

    I've been running a very fun VGC team I started piloting Ursaluna in casual play since the second I heard it was coming, I'll probably be using it in singles as well

  • @Birdthefeatheredone
    @Birdthefeatheredone Рік тому +9

    In the wise words of a trainer of an Ursaluna he named Big Bertha: “You can’t stop it all.”

  • @SYKim_94
    @SYKim_94 Рік тому +14

    Ursuluna is everything Rampardos wants to be in trick room

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Рік тому +8

      Furthermore, it’s not even Normal/Rock. This also means that Rock is proven a horrible type once again.

    • @broidkanymore-zc4lt
      @broidkanymore-zc4lt Місяць тому

      and rampardos just dies to its own head smash and how the hell is blud gonna set up a swords dance with that bulk

  • @victorlinares4137
    @victorlinares4137 Рік тому +11

    Its one of the rare trick room users to not only have the raw power and coverage to make full use of the trick room turns, but its bulky enough to hit outside of it

  • @brentvalliere7624
    @brentvalliere7624 Рік тому +94

    ursaluna's damage is unBEARable

  • @artimist0315
    @artimist0315 Рік тому +27

    I think one other factor that makes Ursaluna much better than older physical trick room abusers is that guts makes it effectively immune to getting paralysed or burned, which are generally effective counterplays against most sweepers

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 Рік тому +1

      Yeah... It kind off just looks like GameFreak wanted it to be busted, or they did it accidentally dunno...

    • @void9023
      @void9023 Рік тому

      Surely Conkeldurr is not that forgettable of a mon

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 7 місяців тому

      also immune to sleep, cause you're already going to be burning yourself with flame orb regardless. :P

  • @katsureiwarui8615
    @katsureiwarui8615 Рік тому +9

    I'm so glad that maybe my favorite Hisuian design is an absolute BEAST in a competitive format. Beyond that, reviving a strategy that has been dead for years is so amazing. UrsalunaHype.

  • @theimpersonator7086
    @theimpersonator7086 Рік тому +40

    Honestly kinda cool to see Trick Room be more than just a very niche, kinda gimmicky playstyle. Kinda wish Tailwind was the same(although I don't know how good it was in Gen 6 with Talon and unerfed Gale wings).

    • @JuukaRock
      @JuukaRock Рік тому +17

      Both Tailwind and Trick Room have been important strategy staples for years now in VGC, if you want to see a metagame where they're active. You always have to plan for when the opposing team tries either move.
      It's really clear these moves were designed for doubles with the low turn limits.

  • @pikapete2719
    @pikapete2719 Рік тому +15

    Your videos are so freaking good man... The b-roll, the editing, the writing. Ace tier stuff man. Been a fan for a long time

  • @mugiwaraLux
    @mugiwaraLux Рік тому +8

    For reference, in VGC on the current Showdown Ladder it is absolutely a menace. You need 2+ checks minimum and a way to stop trick room in psychic terrain. It is absolutely a menace to handle and has boosted TR from good but difficult to optimize to absolutely terrifying prep style. There’s a reason why in Reg C TR was not the play, it was too slow to get going as with a mon like chienpao you didn’t get a free turn usually. But with Ursuluna and cresselia using lunar to heal 1/4th it’s HP and it’s burn at the end of a turn it prevents it from taking residual damage per turn as well as flame orb has to reactivate. It’s absolutely terrifying.

    • @lovelyluna733
      @lovelyluna733 Рік тому +5

      I feel this is a great exaggeration of its power, Taunt is naturally everywhere because it's so good even without tr matchup, they also can carry fake out and the dark types often pressure the setters too much. The catch with psychic terrain is you have to actually run InDD, so now it's InDD + Cress, who struggle to do any meaningful damage themselves, Ursa can not win a 1v2 most of the time. Chien Pao can just click Ice Spinner, and now no more terrain, Rillaboom is also a super common pokemon that can override the terrain on switch in as well as access to fake out to stall a crucial trick room turn. Ursa may be super hard to slow down, but we still have intimidate, which neutralises the guts boost. Idk if I have any specific checks for Ursaluna in my team and the matchup is favourable (Eleki/Heatran/Chien Pao/Urshifu/Rillaboom/Lando-T, standard balance). I agree it's a monster of a pokemon but just wanted to expand my thoughts because I feel needing specific checks is exaggerating it

    • @mugiwaraLux
      @mugiwaraLux Рік тому +3

      @@lovelyluna733 mental herb, psychic terrain, and many other things which are common as hell on a standard indeedee cress lead.

    • @lovelyluna733
      @lovelyluna733 Рік тому +2

      @Lux yh already talked about the flaw of indeedee, most Cress teams don't want to run it and if they do they kind of lose way too many turns to make it efficient, they might have to hard switch into Ursa if neither die, since they can't do any damage, and that's a risky play considering they could hit it on switch in.
      In a perfect world where indeedee dies on the first turn of TR, and Ursa comes, it can only kill 1 Mon because you can protect on the other 2, and now it's a very vulnerable pokemon. Hell, even if Ursa entered the moment tr was set up, it has 2 turns to do things because of protects. Normally, if you survive the tr turns, you can overwhelm them with stronger offence.

    • @DisastrousIntentionally
      @DisastrousIntentionally Рік тому

      Imprison Gardevoir works wonders at denying that team from having a chance to get started.

  • @PokeMasrerJ
    @PokeMasrerJ Рік тому +6

    I knew Ursaluna was going to be crazy, STAB Facade with the same base attack as Conkelder is all ready nuts, but the coverage it has with Fire Punch, Crunch, Headlong Rush is even more so. Didn't think it would be THIS busted lol

  • @agisuru
    @agisuru Рік тому +47

    Ursaluna's massive power and bulk has made it an incredible Assault Vest attacker on my team. It can switch into some pretty hefty hits and shrug them off to counter KO. Also, nobody expects Bulletproof, which makes it easy to switch in on attacks it's immune to.

    • @lovelyluna733
      @lovelyluna733 Рік тому +30

      I don't know if that's worth dropping a free choice band and 140 BP STAB move though

    • @edsbegaming507
      @edsbegaming507 Рік тому +1

      @@lovelyluna733 If its a doubles team like I assumed it to be then maybe

    • @SuperNintendawg
      @SuperNintendawg Рік тому

      ​@@edsbegaming507 you'd rather have flame orb in doubles, no? To protect from sleep?

    • @lovelyluna733
      @lovelyluna733 Рік тому +4

      @EDSBeGaming even in doubles, it's still more valuable. At least in VGC where you have only 4 pokemon, Ursaluna's Tera Normal Facade can 2 shot boosted Dozo, the rest of the meta is kind of dropping dead, it gets earthquake for spread damage and is often paired with helping hand Cress to annihilate the other side

    • @edsbegaming507
      @edsbegaming507 Рік тому +2

      Yall. It isn’t my team I don’t have all the answers lmfao, all I was saying was I can see it being a set for doubles

  • @Iris_Descent
    @Iris_Descent Рік тому +5

    6:44 Try this one on for size:
    252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mismagius: 328-386 (101.2 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Crunch vs. 216 HP / 220 Def Eviolite Misdreavus: 226-268 (71.7 - 85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    No, I'm totally not biased anyway.

  • @jennyevef
    @jennyevef Рік тому +9

    "ursalunas dont run crunch right now" as someone who INSTANTLY starting using mismagius just to beat luna, they always run crunch. always. i have to use sash just for that fact. but mismagius pulls its weight. one free switch in, then sash eats up another hit giving me a chance to energy ball for big damage. and mismagius doesn't actually suck outside of that interaction! its not the best but being able to force switches with three immunities and healing with draining kiss is serviceable. ive taken to calling it flutter mane at home

    • @BromanderInChief
      @BromanderInChief Рік тому +4

      I’ve run crunch from the very beginning tbh. It’s not because of these hyper-specific options like drifblim or mismagius, moreso the mindgame of someone switching in their corviknight and ghost type back and forth to stall out TR turns. I just say fuck it, SD up and run crunch on top of facade and hlong rush, and either of those switch ins is taking a beating regardless and no mindgames have to be played.
      Honestly don’t know how people haven’t run it from the very beginning either tbh fire punch on this thing is trash honestly it hits 1-2 relevant targets tops lmao

    • @silverfang4583
      @silverfang4583 Рік тому

      @@BromanderInChief that's what fire fang is for, it chunks everything stimm
      So it ends up being the best middle ground, you effectively don't need to choose if you click fire fang because it chunks em both

  • @charlesbooker1393
    @charlesbooker1393 Рік тому +3

    You hit my algo not long ago and i been a fan ever since, Keep producing bangers you’ll go way up!

  • @Sgt_Viper000
    @Sgt_Viper000 Рік тому +11

    I've been running TR in VGC, so seeing my bear Ursaluna is viable in TR makes me very excited!

  • @shimogane2474
    @shimogane2474 Рік тому +8

    the trickroom attacker + choice scarf combo is really funny to experiment with. So you having a rather slow team. Its not superslow, with mons between 70 and 100 speed. Than you can use trick room too, to get an edge against offense while using your choice scarfer to outspeed the one or two fast mons on more bulky teams.
    The best part is that your enemy is never expecting trick room from the start, its comical.

  • @dylantorres-brown3718
    @dylantorres-brown3718 Рік тому +10

    In Doubles i put Bulk up on Ursaluna, set up Bulk Up and Trick room, then get Guts boost. Next turn i used Helping Hand on Ursaluna and use Facade on Corvikinght and it 1 shot.... No Tera Normal either so it could of been even stronger

  • @pattyice1570
    @pattyice1570 Рік тому +10

    I didnt play Legends Arceus but when I took a look at Ursaluna's stats I immediately knew he was going to be a major problem. I have been using him on Showdown and he puts up massive dmg. I know he will be tested but unsure of his ban.

  • @ZachPlum
    @ZachPlum 11 місяців тому +2

    Man… we really had our hopes up for this boy

  • @megascizor32
    @megascizor32 Рік тому +5

    Greatest trick room mon of all time 🐻

  • @vulpony2130
    @vulpony2130 Рік тому +23

    Big bear 🐻 :DD

  • @plhbuschannel
    @plhbuschannel Рік тому +3

    adaptations might include protect on leftovers pokemon doubling on accumulating leftovers recovery alike gen 4 nidoqueen and checking trick room teams, or level 99 ursaluna to underspeed opposing ursaluna
    either way I don't want it boomed instantly from the metagame so we should probably wait a while for the meta to settle

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 Рік тому +11

    5:45 That's a Huge Power Azumarill using Liquidation in Rain....
    J E S U S

    • @felixryker5056
      @felixryker5056 Рік тому

      "Ursaluna is just vanilla overpowered"
      In about 3 days.

    • @victorAPR96
      @victorAPR96 Рік тому +1

      Ursaluna is tera'd normal in this clip. It still tanked the attack pretty well though

  • @7raziel7
    @7raziel7 Рік тому +4

    I've found a little use in mixed Hoopa Unbound thanks to the bear as well being able to threaten the switch in physical walls that people want to bring

  • @TheCrazyhusky
    @TheCrazyhusky Рік тому +2

    Nice to see Ursaluna doing well.

  • @murphyc15
    @murphyc15 Рік тому +4

    Honestly trick room should either last longer, have an item that extends it's duration, or they should create an ability that automatically sets trick room up upon entry. I'd also be open to possibly having an attack that has the secondary effect of setting trick room

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 Рік тому +2

      It would make Ursaluna, like, unstoppable, but others could come in and reverse trick room

    • @wren5413
      @wren5413 Рік тому +1

      Sadly, this would be one of the most broken things to ever exist in Vgc, which is the official format, so Gamefreak wont want to buff Trick Room that much

    • @doomgirl5341
      @doomgirl5341 Рік тому

      Never, never create a trick room on switch unless is a box legendary, you'd make VGC the worst format, at least Smogon can ban pokemon

  • @CealdorGaming
    @CealdorGaming Рік тому +2

    2:52 song music: Cynthia Battle Theme (Remix) - Pokémon Diamond and Pearl

  • @chaokid999
    @chaokid999 Рік тому

    I really enjoy your editing style. Keep up the great work!

  • @juanca2567
    @juanca2567 Рік тому +2

    When fighting against a Toxic Spikes or Sneasler, switch Flame Orb for a Muscle Band and DESTROY other teams. Use Cinderace and the signature move Court Change to set up your own 1 layer of Toxic Spikes on yourself.

  • @notDmanTV
    @notDmanTV Рік тому

    shoutout agency with the blunder clip big fan

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 Рік тому +2

    Can’t wait to see Ursaluna wreak havoc in VGC.

  • @chrisosborne4731
    @chrisosborne4731 Рік тому +1

    Worth noting is that the video focuses exclusively on single battles. Full disclaimer, I don't play competitive Pokémon but I frequent the videos cause I find it interesting. Strategies that work in single battles and double battles are different. I my mind trick room is more suited to a double battle team. This way your trick room abuser is out turn 1. With double battles you don't have to switch in to get the benefit. Also double battles tend to be shorter (4 of 6 Pokémon selected) and trick room may not need to ever be set up twice if the battle ends after only 3 turns. I don't have the experience to say trick room is definitely viable in doubles, but I would imagine it is _more_ viable than it is in singles.

  • @SuperFapple
    @SuperFapple Рік тому

    Great explanatory and in-depth video!

  • @rhysbellagaming
    @rhysbellagaming Рік тому +2

    Good, Ursaring line hasn't had love since receiving Close Combat imo, and now it can run Eviolite!
    Ursaluna is surely not anymore broken than half of gen 9 threats anyways

  • @drxavier1870
    @drxavier1870 Рік тому +2

    Another note is that in Doubles. Cresselias new move Lunar Blessing actually works on its teammate, so if you make it so your Cresselia is faster than Ursa in Trick Room. Ursaluna can nuke an Opponent while Cress heals Ursaluna by 25% of its HP every turn and make it not take Chip Damage because Lunar Dance heals status. And because Ursaluna goes first it always gets its attack off before its Burn is healed and re-applies at the end of the turn.

    • @dr_brewer
      @dr_brewer Рік тому +1

      That would make the value of Knock Off extremely high.

    • @Rarest26
      @Rarest26 Рік тому

      Why on earth would you want to heal the burn BEFORE Ursa attacks?

    • @drxavier1870
      @drxavier1870 Рік тому

      @@Rarest26 wait did i say that? I meant Ursaluna attacks first then Cresselia heals it, and it dosent get hurt by Burn but also still fires off 1 shot kills since it went first before the heal

    • @Rarest26
      @Rarest26 Рік тому

      @@drxavier1870 You said to make cress faster than ursa IN trick room. That’s the important part. She’d have to be faster outside so that inside she goes after ursa destroys something.

    • @drxavier1870
      @drxavier1870 Рік тому

      @@Rarest26 Apologies for the mistake, do you at least see where im going with the strategy?

  • @Jacob-df5hr
    @Jacob-df5hr Рік тому +1

    With the power creep inevitably breaking Pokemon every generation, I'm just glad to see that at least this game's Dracovish is a freaking Teddiursa evolution.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Рік тому

    Decent analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @derpyquagsire6678
    @derpyquagsire6678 Рік тому +2

    Wish game freak would make a one time use item that switches the Pokémon if it uses a room move like wonder room, magic room, or trick room.

  • @Phychologik
    @Phychologik Рік тому +3

    Imagine not giving gengar levitate and then turning around and putting this thing into the game

  • @competitively3315
    @competitively3315 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic editing

  • @mistercrusher5108
    @mistercrusher5108 Рік тому +2

    Five turns in trickroom jumpscare

  • @whywatt733
    @whywatt733 Рік тому

    I'm so hype for your project for a less restricted meta

  • @wildtacocat
    @wildtacocat Рік тому +2

    Personally I like the meta shift that Home brought a lot especially cuz my team was actually built in mind for the Home release so my team pre home is still just as good post home but I have to say I actually don’t care for Ursaluna that much I think if a Pokémon is so dominant it’s a must pick if you want the best chance to win there’s a problem but that’s just me

  • @F-Dog2842
    @F-Dog2842 Рік тому +2

    One vgc team with Ursaluna that I've been making with one of my friends is a team when we use the team preview to trick people who don't read teamsheets into thinking its a trick room team. We have builds such as choice scarf luna and offensive cress. The team is not good but it's hilarious.

  • @ttt7337jjj
    @ttt7337jjj Рік тому

    Freezai I love your videos. Ur very concise and informative

  • @jaredwhite7285
    @jaredwhite7285 Рік тому

    3:00 I like our demonstration of ursuluna's monsterous power is KOing a level 2 Lechonk.

  • @warmwater9509
    @warmwater9509 Рік тому +4

    I can't wait until the metagame evolves to use slow pokemon with speed reducing natures so that ursaluna outspeeds them such that they can hit them first

  • @shapesbb
    @shapesbb Рік тому

    The edits are a neat addition

  • @-Chunky-
    @-Chunky- Рік тому +16

    The fact it doesn’t run crunch is great for me ngl. Because, no joke, I use high defense high HP Eviolite Misdreavus in OU and it usually lives a turn against Ursaluna and can either trick off the flame orb or memento on it so I can KO it or force a swap and set up Tera ghost Kingambit or a Zangoose-disguised Hisuian Zoroark

  • @iantaakalla8180
    @iantaakalla8180 Рік тому +1

    “Larry’s Ursaluna used Facade!”

  • @cjtrahey4195
    @cjtrahey4195 Рік тому +3

    haha big bear go brrr

  • @the_bookworm8281
    @the_bookworm8281 Рік тому +11

    Something cool about Trick Room in gen 9 is that is has already quite the historic run through the Nat Dex tier.
    Shortly after Nat Dex's creation, Melmetal with Tera Steel Double Iron Bash under Trick Room absolutely annihilated the entire tier.
    As a matter of fact, because this strategy was so powerful and the Nat Dex tier shifts was (and still is) so slow, Cresselia was actually stuck in the NatDexOU tier for months, long after Melmetal would be banned. On top of that, once HOME came out, Ursaluna was banned from the Nat Dex tier literally only 5 days after it got released.
    So yeah, you introduce mons that tip the payoff scale to the next level, then destruction will ensue. We have never seen what this would look like in any tier in any gen until now. As a matter of fact, I find it funny that gen 9 might be Cresselia's most successful generation in OU despite it being nerfed in this generation.

  • @devolo5947
    @devolo5947 Рік тому

    New drinking game: take a shot every time the word "Ursaluna" is said

  • @absolutetrash7880
    @absolutetrash7880 Рік тому

    I ran a trick room team for the first time this gen, unless you count me running it once and hating it and never doin' it for years (IE first real attempt at some kind of trick room strat with a somewhat logical team), it was B4 Ursaluna but a good friend of mine who actually beat my first OU team of this gen lost to my Trick Room team. My Trick room team was built around Skeledirge + Torch Song + Throat Spray and Tinkaton (this was at the start of the gen B4 starts started getting developed.) I'm not a very good player by any means but trick room now holds a special place for me now

  • @SamGBSR
    @SamGBSR Рік тому +3

    I don’t want it to get banned because nobody in the low ladder (my home where I live) knows how to pilot the team lmao

  • @nachikettchatterjeee6518
    @nachikettchatterjeee6518 Рік тому +2

    big bear adorable but pls ban, it has no real counters whatsoever. tera normal guts facade vs corviknight deals ultra mega damage too. basculegion and the ghost types as a counter? good one because urslauna natural bulk tanks a hit and kos with headlong rush.
    main point is - there's no counter to a facade or a headlong rush, one pokemon has to die in a turn

  • @gustavoulguim
    @gustavoulguim Рік тому

    Gen 6-7 had some very cool trick room teams with a-marowak, crawdaunt and magearna

  • @holschermarc
    @holschermarc Рік тому

    Zangoose watching from PU: U show them boy, show them what the Facade-Style is capable of!!!!

  • @ethanbosch6770
    @ethanbosch6770 Рік тому

    Ursaluna: can't learn trickroom
    Also ursaluna: i make trickroom go brrr

  • @simonalbert7518
    @simonalbert7518 Рік тому +1

    This reminds me of nat dex UU alpha where the trick room setters and abusers got enough usage to be UU by usage just because Melmetal could tera steel, clickdib, and win.

  • @worldsboss
    @worldsboss Рік тому +2

    This thing feels like it’ll be a monster in VGC.

  • @CammyMeeleTea
    @CammyMeeleTea Рік тому

    Ursaluna is exactly what I hoped it would be. Something with low speed, that properly eats hits, and retaliates. It's got the stats and typing to do exactly what it needs.

  • @comfeytimid1207
    @comfeytimid1207 Рік тому +1

    five nights in trick room

  • @mateoostorero2223
    @mateoostorero2223 Рік тому +1

    It's time to release the Driflooms

  • @ninthfloor
    @ninthfloor Рік тому +1

    If Melmetal ever drops into Gen 9 the Double Iron Bash/Facade/EQ pick and roll would be insane lol

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674 Рік тому +13

    its sad that trick room will probably never get an item that extends its duration or an ability that summons it on entry because it would destroy VGC. At least it got ursaluna to make it good

    • @reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561
      @reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561 Рік тому +7

      actually if there is a chance that at least the trick room ability can exist
      that is the 100% exclusive ability of a mythical Pokemon that are banned from VGC 99.98% of the time

    • @FlipTrackz
      @FlipTrackz Рік тому +3

      Wish there was a VGC singles division. Seems weird to base your entire game around singles and then completely shaft the format from official competitive play.

    • @Ultra289
      @Ultra289 Рік тому +2

      ​@@FlipTrackz
      There wont be any (official) VGC singles becuase competitive singles just doesnt work among another factors such as ppl playing singles not caring and doubles being more interesting to play and watch
      The only reason most ppl play singles becuase its easier to understand and less complicated than doubles

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Рік тому

      It would be too good. Players rely on their Pokémon's speed, and turning that concept topsy-turvy makes it powerful to react if you aren't prepared.

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ Рік тому +2

      @@FlipTrackz Game Freak doesn’t balance around singles, there would be so many broken mons like Palafin or Houndstone or Chi-Yu or Espathra running around.

  • @RobotPlush
    @RobotPlush Рік тому

    I’ve been on Showdown, messing around with Ursaluna and Trick Room as a way to see what Hisuian Pokémon could be strong (I’ve been playing AG). The Trick Room setup I’ve been using is Wyrdeer, and I’ve gotta say, Wyrdeer works pretty well as a Trick Room setup (from what I’ve seen) thanks to good Defensive stats and Intimidate making sure Wyrdeer will survive long enough to use Trick Room

  • @DrBidoofenshmirtz
    @DrBidoofenshmirtz Рік тому

    Yogi is no longer asking for your picnic basket. He’s taking it by force

  • @BlazeElPadrino662
    @BlazeElPadrino662 Рік тому +1

    I really fell in love with Trick Room when it was introduced in Gen IV and coupled with the then defense halving Explosion it had its niches. Nonetheless, after the Explosion nerf then the strategy was relegated to lower tiers because that's where most of the "user/abusers" landed after all: Slowking, NP Cofagrigus, Steel Ball Victini and even TR/SD Gallade, etc. Now I'm cheering for Ursaluna strats and hope to don't see it banned so soon. BTW, when we will get a viable Gravity set/mon GF? Best regards!

  • @pyrromanis2180
    @pyrromanis2180 Рік тому

    My favorite Ursaluna counter is Fluffy Houndstone!
    With max defense and Body Press it can tank multiple hits and threaten Ursa with a 2hko. It's also great rn as a counter to both Zamazenta (even if the one got banned) and Sneasler.
    But outside of Houndstone, the Ursaluna checks/counters are very few and/or very situational. I won't be surprised if it gets suspected during summer. It would be a shame though, cause Trick Room is one of my favorite strats and I'm very happy it's viable again!

  • @xuanathan
    @xuanathan Рік тому

    The Ursaluna theorem: Why attack IS everything

  • @Kzy365
    @Kzy365 Рік тому +3

    Big Bear Strong.

  • @NotBamOrBing
    @NotBamOrBing Рік тому

    Trick Room can move horizontally on the graph, if it gets an item to extend it and/or an ability to set it (or a move that sets it while doing damage a la max moves with weather)

  • @twiddledeedee
    @twiddledeedee Рік тому +2

    This is basically marowak alola on crack. Marowak in TR felt like the most broken mon in the meta but this is a whole other level of ridiculousness. Albeit, like melm last gen, its usefullness in TR is limited now thst it doesnt got easy pivots in TR like eject pack magearna. That makes it still not the most difficult thing in the world to beat

  • @raylordofkhalah28
    @raylordofkhalah28 Рік тому

    Man, no one else might comment about this but the little animated clips in between your battle clips are super slick. The quality of your vids have increased so much since you started and I love your progress! Keep up the stunning work my dude

  • @Breloom286
    @Breloom286 Рік тому

    the moment we needed levitate gengar the most, he dissapeared

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 Рік тому

    Maybe to further cement its place, a 4th coverage move can be given, especially a move like Fire Punch for covering for its weaknesses the most efficiently

  • @jolitero
    @jolitero Рік тому +1

    i wonder if ursaluna might make protect even more viable in singles, as a way to stall trick room turns and let burn chip ursaluna

  • @thanyou
    @thanyou Рік тому

    Focus sash reversal has entered the chat
    The unironic rise of Hitmonlee.

  • @fastrockproductions9788
    @fastrockproductions9788 Рік тому

    Glad my shiny bear was able to help the production process

  • @flyingoctopus4304
    @flyingoctopus4304 Рік тому +4

    People told me Ursaluna wouldn't be viable. I feel incredibly vindicated now.

  • @josefbajarias3109
    @josefbajarias3109 11 місяців тому +1

    Returning to this after finding out Ursaluna will get a new form be like..

    • @angrycinnabon2956
      @angrycinnabon2956 11 місяців тому

      Not to mention regular Ursaluna dropped to UU💀

    • @broidkanymore-zc4lt
      @broidkanymore-zc4lt Місяць тому

      @@angrycinnabon2956 still one of the goats in natdex

  • @shisuiedits
    @shisuiedits Рік тому +1

    damn I wish pokemon showdown was bigger. You have such good content. Glad you're in the community tho

  • @kanjibear5486
    @kanjibear5486 Рік тому

    First thing that came to mind was some kind of Drifblim set if the Ursaluna doesn't have crunch to cover it.

  • @bootortle
    @bootortle Рік тому +2

    Makes me miss Reuniclus even more...

  • @cullenmott7614
    @cullenmott7614 Рік тому +1

    wonderful video

  • @kyleheck5363
    @kyleheck5363 Рік тому +1

    Legends arceus deciding to bring back cross gen evos was one of the best decisions they ever made, I missed borderline useless pokemon get a major buff with an evolution since the last time it happened was sylveon in gen 6 lol

  • @awarapun
    @awarapun Рік тому

    My old levitating gengarnis crying in a corner