Thank you! I looked all over you tube to find how to move a flare and you are the only one I can find so far that tells us how to do it. Transform. . I'll be back.
Thanks, Scott. This was a really nice walk-through on how to use this filter. I especially like the part about adding the filter to give the flare on the lighthouse. I never considered using it for that. I especially like how you show to keep things subtle. Nifty.
Wow. Will the learning never end. Hope not. A very deep tutorial on the use of the Sun filter and more. Thanks once again Scott keep these excellent sessions coming.
I've used this filter once, also on a lighthouse, mainly because no matter how far I shopped down, I couldn't get the sunstar in camera. One important think to remember about this filter is that there is no AI being used. Each of these sunfare effects is an actual image stored in a folder by On1 (can't seem to figure out where that is now). The plus to this is that you can create your own effects specific to your lenses and save them to this folder and have access through the filter dialog.
Thanks Scott for this video. I'll have to see the video again to understand all the informations. A so nice idea to use the luminosity filter on the lighthouse beam. Great teaching, as usual with you.
First, thank you for the discount code. I'm really looking forward to the new release - it seems like they have made some cool improvements. So thinking out loud here... if we could use our own photos/images for this filter it could be really interesting. For example, render some "star spikes" and use them for night photos. Maybe some swirling type of things that would go in a "digital art" direction. Sure, you could bring in layers and deal with it that way, but the effects filters are such a nice way to package something up and manage it. Maybe they could create a "Image Overlay" filter? What do think?
You could create your own sunstars or flares, then apply them as layers. I think you'd need to capture the flares well-isolated to minimize masking. A lighten blending mode on the flare layer would be a good start.
Thanks for this. While I am not a keen fan of this effect, I have a couple of great shots of the Pigeon Point Lighthouse (south of Half Moon Bay) from our 2018 trip to SFBA. Cool tips here!
Quite interesting. Thanks. Suppose you wanted to mask out the effect from the structure of the lighthouse so that the light looked more like it was coming from behind. Would a luminosity mask be the best way to do that ?
Hi Owen ... a luminance mask might work, might need something more targeted with brushes. It'd depend on the individual photo and what it's luminance tones are. If there is good contrast separation of the structure from the background, the luminosity masking gets easier.
@@ScottDavenport Thanks, Scott. I'll play around with it. I haven't used the Sun Flare filter but I can see that in the right hands it can add a subtle something. I really appreciate your On1 videos; they're a big help.
An excellent tutorial Scott. Especially the stuff about using a luminosity mask. How do you think On1's sun filter compares with Lumin arms, which is I believe driven by AI?
The Luminar AI Sunrays tool gives you more control over shaping the sunbeams. And the AI generally does well wrt identifying and "hiding" the sun behind objects. In ON1, you are the AI and need to do some masking. Conversely, Luminar AI is primarily sun rays, although you can coax a singular flare out of it. Bokeh overlays are done differently in Luminar AI... as texture overlays.
Thanks for the great tutorial ! I've used the bokeh type of this filter and was wondering - what if I want to blur the boken balls for example in order to match the aperture of the lens - can this be done on the effect with on1 with manipulating layers ? I was trying to mimic the workflow in Photoshop by attempting to maybe create an empty layer with the effect and then try to blur it , but not sure it's possible .. I would really appreciate if you could help ! Thanks a lot
An effect has to apply to a set of pixels (usually a photo) on a layer. You might scrounge around and find where ON1 stores the actual bokeh overlays used in the Sun Flare filter and load it as it’s own layer. Then you can apply filters, like blur, to the bokeh image itself. The lens blur overlays might be available as textures themselves… traveling, can’t check at the moment. If so, add one as a new texture layer and treat the texture as you need.
I used your code to purchase On1 Raw 2022 as an upgrade (although I wonder if the subscription is a better idea as it provides cloud capability) and received a 30% discount, not 20%. Also 30% off for the subscription. Getting the subscription for only $10 more may be preferable as if I drop it I have On1 Raw 2021 forever as backup, What do you think?
Hi Philip... if you're the type of person that updates your software every year, the subscription is a good deal. A little less expensive than the perpetual license IIRC. Something I don't know about off the cuff is what functionality remains operational if you decide later to stop your subscription. I'm sure ON1 has details on that, but something to consider.
I see where you're coming from but I'm sure you'd find it difficult to go back to 2021, once you've got used to 2022 and beyond. I have used Scott's code to go to 2022 perpetual licence with the thinking that I can 'stick or twist' each year depending on how much I want the new features, but I never have to go backwards.
In my view Scott this filter's capability to easily and quickly produce and adjust a credible sunburst is a rather disappointing feature compared to Luminar AI's capability. The ON1 Photo RAW 2018 version had a great filter called the Lens Flare Filter which easily produced great sunburst effects. You ably demonstrated it in your video titled ON1 Photo Tutorial - How To Create A Natural Sunburst Effect. I'm quite disappointed that ON Photo RAW pulled that filter out of its filter inventory.
Hi André ... yes, in ON1, you have to be the AI, so some masking is needed for a natural look. And yeah ... the filter in ON1 from a few years ago more closely resembled the Luminar AI tool, assuming you coupled it with a luminance mask.
Thank you! I looked all over you tube to find how to move a flare and you are the only one I can find so far that tells us how to do it. Transform. . I'll be back.
Super! Glad it helped you.
Thanks, Scott. This was a really nice walk-through on how to use this filter. I especially like the part about adding the filter to give the flare on the lighthouse. I never considered using it for that. I especially like how you show to keep things subtle. Nifty.
You're very welcome!
Wow. Will the learning never end. Hope not. A very deep tutorial on the use of the Sun filter and more. Thanks once again Scott keep these excellent sessions coming.
Glad you enjoyed it. There are a few more Effects filters to go :)
I've used this filter once, also on a lighthouse, mainly because no matter how far I shopped down, I couldn't get the sunstar in camera.
One important think to remember about this filter is that there is no AI being used. Each of these sunfare effects is an actual image stored in a folder by On1 (can't seem to figure out where that is now). The plus to this is that you can create your own effects specific to your lenses and save them to this folder and have access through the filter dialog.
Right you are, Joel. For this filter, you are the AI (or I guess just the "I").
Thanks Scott for this video. I'll have to see the video again to understand all the informations. A so nice idea to use the luminosity filter on the lighthouse beam. Great teaching, as usual with you.
Thanks as always Jean-Luc!
Great information Scott! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
First, thank you for the discount code. I'm really looking forward to the new release - it seems like they have made some cool improvements.
So thinking out loud here... if we could use our own photos/images for this filter it could be really interesting. For example, render some "star spikes" and use them for night photos. Maybe some swirling type of things that would go in a "digital art" direction. Sure, you could bring in layers and deal with it that way, but the effects filters are such a nice way to package something up and manage it. Maybe they could create a "Image Overlay" filter? What do think?
You could create your own sunstars or flares, then apply them as layers. I think you'd need to capture the flares well-isolated to minimize masking. A lighten blending mode on the flare layer would be a good start.
Thanks for this. While I am not a keen fan of this effect, I have a couple of great shots of the Pigeon Point Lighthouse (south of Half Moon Bay) from our 2018 trip to SFBA. Cool tips here!
Hi Marty ... that's a cool lighthouse. And yes, the look needs to be done with care. A little goes a long way.
Quite interesting. Thanks. Suppose you wanted to mask out the effect from the structure of the lighthouse so that the light looked more like it was coming from behind. Would a luminosity mask be the best way to do that ?
Hi Owen ... a luminance mask might work, might need something more targeted with brushes. It'd depend on the individual photo and what it's luminance tones are. If there is good contrast separation of the structure from the background, the luminosity masking gets easier.
@@ScottDavenport Thanks, Scott. I'll play around with it. I haven't used the Sun Flare filter but I can see that in the right hands it can add a subtle something. I really appreciate your On1 videos; they're a big help.
An excellent tutorial Scott. Especially the stuff about using a luminosity mask. How do you think On1's sun filter compares with Lumin arms, which is I believe driven by AI?
The Luminar AI Sunrays tool gives you more control over shaping the sunbeams. And the AI generally does well wrt identifying and "hiding" the sun behind objects. In ON1, you are the AI and need to do some masking. Conversely, Luminar AI is primarily sun rays, although you can coax a singular flare out of it. Bokeh overlays are done differently in Luminar AI... as texture overlays.
@@ScottDavenport That's what I thought. I have pre-ordered Luminar Neo and will (hopefully) be using it as a plug-in in On1 PhotoRaw 2022!
Thanks for the great tutorial !
I've used the bokeh type of this filter and was wondering - what if I want to blur the boken balls for example in order to match the aperture of the lens - can this be done on the effect with on1 with manipulating layers ?
I was trying to mimic the workflow in Photoshop by attempting to maybe create an empty layer with the effect and then try to blur it , but not sure it's possible ..
I would really appreciate if you could help !
Thanks a lot
An effect has to apply to a set of pixels (usually a photo) on a layer. You might scrounge around and find where ON1 stores the actual bokeh overlays used in the Sun Flare filter and load it as it’s own layer. Then you can apply filters, like blur, to the bokeh image itself. The lens blur overlays might be available as textures themselves… traveling, can’t check at the moment. If so, add one as a new texture layer and treat the texture as you need.
@@ScottDavenportI see , thanks !
Maybe it would be a good idea for On1 to add blurring as an configurable options on the filter, don't you think ?
I used your code to purchase On1 Raw 2022 as an upgrade (although I wonder if the subscription is a better idea as it provides cloud capability) and received a 30% discount, not 20%. Also 30% off for the subscription. Getting the subscription for only $10 more may be preferable as if I drop it I have On1 Raw 2021 forever as backup, What do you think?
Hi Philip... if you're the type of person that updates your software every year, the subscription is a good deal. A little less expensive than the perpetual license IIRC. Something I don't know about off the cuff is what functionality remains operational if you decide later to stop your subscription. I'm sure ON1 has details on that, but something to consider.
I see where you're coming from but I'm sure you'd find it difficult to go back to 2021, once you've got used to 2022 and beyond.
I have used Scott's code to go to 2022 perpetual licence with the thinking that I can 'stick or twist' each year depending on how much I want the new features, but I never have to go backwards.
In my view Scott this filter's capability to easily and quickly produce and adjust a credible sunburst is a rather disappointing feature compared to Luminar AI's capability.
The ON1 Photo RAW 2018 version had a great filter called the Lens Flare Filter which easily produced great sunburst effects. You ably demonstrated it in your video titled ON1 Photo Tutorial - How To Create A Natural Sunburst Effect. I'm quite disappointed that ON Photo RAW pulled that filter out of its filter inventory.
Hi André ... yes, in ON1, you have to be the AI, so some masking is needed for a natural look. And yeah ... the filter in ON1 from a few years ago more closely resembled the Luminar AI tool, assuming you coupled it with a luminance mask.