After watching a few videos with poor instructions, I came across this one and when I started following your steps, I was stumped at first because I have the switch for the tinted inner visor on my Sedici helmet where typically you would mount the Sena. Moving on, I am beyond ecstatic because your video helped me get all the pieces in the right place, even after struggling to put those damn cheek protectors back in. I was having a hard time getting them to button back in and eventually realized it was because I used the extra padding included for the headphones so I quickly removed them and voila 👏🏽 cheek pads buttoned back in no problem. I just used my Siri to call a couple people and listened to music for a few seconds. Thank you so much for this video!!! I’ve been riding for about 8 mos so this is all so exciting for me. Now I can communicate with my boyfriend easily and there won’t be any surprise turns around town and me wondering where we’re going because we’ll be able to communicate with ease. Thank you again!!
A very good 'how-to' guide. Thank you. Personally found the Sena unit a bit basic for my needs so went with a Cardo Freecom 4+ for the voice control with my iPhone12. Then hit a major snag. 1. The JBL speakers are rather thicker than the Sena speakers. 2 the speaker 'cut'away' in the EPS lining of the helmet is too shallow and is also way too high for over-ear placement. They are more like attachment points for cochlear implants being high and behind my actual ear cavity putting undue pressure on my ear whenever I put the helmet on. This means that the sound from the speakers is too muffled to be of any practical use for me if they are placed here. The ideal placement for the speakers for my hearing was just behind where the chin strap is connected to the helmet. This meant that not only could the speaker not ideally be stuck to the inner shell of the helmet as the chin strap pulled it away when you put on and took off the helmet but the cheek pads could not be seated properly. So all in all a wasted exercise but a useful learning one. My ears, I am assured are normally placed on my head and don't resemble one of Picasso's finest. Thanks again! Bought a few bits of kit from your recommendations (this helmet being one) and don't regret it for a second it is an awesome piece of kit. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, yes the 5s is one of Sena's simpler units, but a 30k or 50S would fit just the same. One thing Sena have done is make their earpieces nice an slim, but still with good audio.
@@mancavemoto How did you find the actual placement of the speaker in the helmet in relation to your ear? I found that the speaker indentations in the shell were too high for me. Ideal speaker placement would be where the chin strap fits into the helmet. That was the main reason I could not use the Cardo unit, which in itself is an absolutely awesome set up and I suspect any other comms unit. Ear plugs for me!
@@misterblack6803 Hey, I know it's been a while since this comment and most probably you have a new helmet :), I had the same issue with Cardo Freecom 4+ with the glamster, first the texture where you originally think the speakers will go to will not hold the adhesive well, so I went to the store and they showed me where to actually fit the spakers, so you have to put it down this textile area where the actual plastic is and it works perfectly now, initially, I installed them where Man Cave did but it was too high and had a huge pressure on my ears, so yes it's a bit tricky but it's doable and the difference is great :)
The Glamster doesn’t have any cutouts for the speakers, so the pads will press against your ears a bit more where the speakers are attached. This is initially no problem, but my ears start to hurt somewhat after 3 hours with the helmet. I guess there is some pressure against the ears. The only retro helmet that did have cutouts for speakers seems to be the Gringo S from Biltwell.
I just bought the Glamster and had the Gringo before and I can definitly confirm that. With the Gringo it was never a Problem but I think I will have to run the glamster without my Sena. After 30mins in the helmet my ears and skull get pressure on them and it starts to hurt. Its a bit sad because I like to talk to my Friends while riding but I dont think I have another choice.
@@nicolorenz4464 You could cut away from the EPS foam slightly where the speakers are placed. The trick there is to just get them a tiny bit deeper so that they don't touch your ear. Literally the speaker pads needs to be 2-3 milimeters deeper than if you just stick it there. I found that moving them slightly more forward towards your cheeks also helps. The speakers won't align perfectly with your ears, but that is no issue as they Harman & Kardon ones are loud enough.
I have the same setup and the volume is ridiculously low. The system was installed by a professional at the shop. I need to check the installation again
Good review, mention how critical it is for speaker positioning as not all helmets have the ear recess in exactly the correct position and this can loose 50% of sound volume after fitting, I always first use my fingers and make an indent internally on the helmet liner across from my ear canal, this would be for speaker centre alignment.
Hi tony, nice video as allways , i never tryed one of these bluetooth comms, can you still ear your surroundings enough while you're riding and listening music?
How about going at it with a Dremel? Is it possible to cut material away? I'd really like to buy this helmet, but I don't want pain in the ears from speakers.
Great review as ever man cave Dave. I was thinking about the new Sena S5 it's just very cool, compact and cheap. But the big problem is no mash up and only one rider. Please tell me it's at least possible to pair to another rider not just the pillion on your bike? U mentioned the range, what is it 700m? If I can talk to one friend on the go, that would be enough for me. And you're right it really looks great on the Glamster.
Thanks Marko, yes it will connect to another rider either a pillion or another bike. Range is fine and mesh is only worthwhile when you are riding in large groups anyway 👍
@@mancavemoto Hi Tony, yes I know about mesh and it also comes to use when u ride two bikes and both carrying pillons. This Sena looks great and the screen even though looks cool isn't really important. I decided I am gonna buy the 20s evo. Now I can find it cheaper for 175€ single set.
Hi Tony - just made the same install and I've got to say... the wind noise around the SENA is unbearable. I have 33db rated earplugs and it's still too much. It seems if I block the air under it, then it dies down. Have you had the problem? Any fixes?
Are the smh5 speakers compatible w the 5s? I've got multiple helmets w smh5 speakers installed already. Next helmet will prob be the glamster or the x14. How's glamster holding up? Thanks alot from the east coast
@@Simon-xs6en i had a 3S on my previous helmet GT air and I think it does everything I need of it without impacting the exterior of the helmet. Now I have a Glamster and waited for the 3s plus to release to install on the glamster, visually the result is great but the headphones don’t fit in perfectly and they are quite large so they touch your ears that for me causes discomfort. I use a neck warmer that covers my ears and this helps a lot. Luckily for me I’ve always used nec warmers this way since I’ve started biking, Sumer or winter I just think it brings extra comfort and also protects my nec from wind and insects
@@xizel that's an extremely helpful comment! thanks a lot! I only ride with neck warmers in winter and my biggest concern was, that the headphones would touch my ears. So I think I need a different solution, although I like the simplicity of the 3S. Well, thanks again and ride safe ;)
Thanks for the video! Did anyone try to install the Sena 3S Universal in a Glamster and could tell me if the thicker speakers are disturbing? thanks a lot ;)
Great video! I'm really hesitating in buying a glamster since it doesn't have dedicated cut outs for the speakers. Do you notice any difference in terms of comfort in your ears?
Fast forward 8 months and I gave up using my intercom on the glamster. Still love riding with it though. I just feel that it is way more comfortable to use the intercom in an helmet with dedicated speaker pockets. I guess it comes down to your fit specifically
ive tested the Sena 3S plus on this and unfortunately because the batteries are in the headphones, the headphones are too large and they touch my ears and are quite uncomfortable. its really a shame because for me it was the perfect intercom that looked good on this helmet. im out there looking for another solution. any ideas?
The Cardo freecom x is a similar size and should offer slimmer speakers. Plus they connect with a standard 3.5mm jack, so you could swap them out for some wired in ear ones which would solve the problem
Hi again Tony, can you just answer my question about pairing the Sena S5 with another rider? Can you pair with a buddy on another bike, what's the range like? I hope it's at least 700-800 m, otherwise it is made to only pair it with a pillion. Now I know you mentioned that in this vid, but have you tested the range and quality of connection for coms communication with a rider on another bike? I am finally about to order my Shoei glamster for Christmas and I haven't decided yet which Sena to buy. Unlike you I don't have 33 helmets and comes units, you probably have other Sena's as well so how does S5 compare? I suppose 20s evo which I could maybe try and find used on Ebay cause it's to expansive for me, is way better than S5? Mainly due to its mash or multiple rider communication capabilities?
Hi Marko, Did I miss a qustion? apologies. Yes you can connect the 5S with another rider. The quoted range is 700m, I used it when riding with a friend recently and we didnt have a problem, it was very reliable. I don't have 33 helmets and I only have two comms units! If you want to connect with multiple riders then you will need something other than the 5S, mesh is only really useful for large groups. I had 30k for a while and that was very good, they can be picked up cheaper now that the 50s has been launched. tinyurl.com/sena30k
@@mancavemoto Thanks Tony, I was only joking about 33 helmets and coms. I know you test the products so for that reason it may seem that way sometimes. Only a joke man, I really like your reviews. Great Tony thanks for the link because I think I need a comm unit which can also do mesh. Because I will ride in larger groups now and then. But also not to often, so you see my dilemma? 5S Sena is really cute and not to expensive .
@@mancavemoto Yes Tony I understand it's hard to answer all the questions,. I am sure you could do it for a month straight and still would've missed out on some. I am also planning to start a recreational UA-cam channel soon. Will see than how I cope with this. I was wondering does sport bike shop give any discounts due to your channel, any promo code I can use, like Mancave welcome or something like that?
Thanks Marko, I look forward to seeing what you do. There isn’t a discount code sadly, I don’t think I’m big enough for them for somethings like that, but they do consistently seem to offer some of the best prices
if you have an Iphone can you test it with siri? Mine used to work but since the IoS update it's stopped working, something about bluetooth protocols etc etc 'insert boring techy stuff here'
After watching a few videos with poor instructions, I came across this one and when I started following your steps, I was stumped at first because I have the switch for the tinted inner visor on my Sedici helmet where typically you would mount the Sena. Moving on, I am beyond ecstatic because your video helped me get all the pieces in the right place, even after struggling to put those damn cheek protectors back in. I was having a hard time getting them to button back in and eventually realized it was because I used the extra padding included for the headphones so I quickly removed them and voila 👏🏽 cheek pads buttoned back in no problem. I just used my Siri to call a couple people and listened to music for a few seconds. Thank you so much for this video!!! I’ve been riding for about 8 mos so this is all so exciting for me. Now I can communicate with my boyfriend easily and there won’t be any surprise turns around town and me wondering where we’re going because we’ll be able to communicate with ease. Thank you again!!
Glad you found it useful Andrea!
A very good 'how-to' guide. Thank you. Personally found the Sena unit a bit basic for my needs so went with a Cardo Freecom 4+ for the voice control with my iPhone12. Then hit a major snag. 1. The JBL speakers are rather thicker than the Sena speakers. 2 the speaker 'cut'away' in the EPS lining of the helmet is too shallow and is also way too high for over-ear placement. They are more like attachment points for cochlear implants being high and behind my actual ear cavity putting undue pressure on my ear whenever I put the helmet on. This means that the sound from the speakers is too muffled to be of any practical use for me if they are placed here. The ideal placement for the speakers for my hearing was just behind where the chin strap is connected to the helmet. This meant that not only could the speaker not ideally be stuck to the inner shell of the helmet as the chin strap pulled it away when you put on and took off the helmet but the cheek pads could not be seated properly. So all in all a wasted exercise but a useful learning one. My ears, I am assured are normally placed on my head and don't resemble one of Picasso's finest. Thanks again! Bought a few bits of kit from your recommendations (this helmet being one) and don't regret it for a second it is an awesome piece of kit. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, yes the 5s is one of Sena's simpler units, but a 30k or 50S would fit just the same. One thing Sena have done is make their earpieces nice an slim, but still with good audio.
@@mancavemoto How did you find the actual placement of the speaker in the helmet in relation to your ear? I found that the speaker indentations in the shell were too high for me. Ideal speaker placement would be where the chin strap fits into the helmet. That was the main reason I could not use the Cardo unit, which in itself is an absolutely awesome set up and I suspect any other comms unit. Ear plugs for me!
Fine for me
@@misterblack6803 Hey, I know it's been a while since this comment and most probably you have a new helmet :), I had the same issue with Cardo Freecom 4+ with the glamster, first the texture where you originally think the speakers will go to will not hold the adhesive well, so I went to the store and they showed me where to actually fit the spakers, so you have to put it down this textile area where the actual plastic is and it works perfectly now, initially, I installed them where Man Cave did but it was too high and had a huge pressure on my ears, so yes it's a bit tricky but it's doable and the difference is great :)
@@ramimator Hey, can you teach me the best set up for the glamster. Im planning to get the cardo 4x. Tia
Don't have a Glamster, a Sena, or a smartphone, but it looks like it fits nice. My wife just pokes me in the ribs and points when she needs to pee.
😂😂😂
Another excellent review Tony
Concise and to the point, coveres everything and is clear and easy to follow
thank you
Thanks Nigel
The Glamster doesn’t have any cutouts for the speakers, so the pads will press against your ears a bit more where the speakers are attached. This is initially no problem, but my ears start to hurt somewhat after 3 hours with the helmet. I guess there is some pressure against the ears. The only retro helmet that did have cutouts for speakers seems to be the Gringo S from Biltwell.
I just bought the Glamster and had the Gringo before and I can definitly confirm that. With the Gringo it was never a Problem but I think I will have to run the glamster without my Sena. After 30mins in the helmet my ears and skull get pressure on them and it starts to hurt. Its a bit sad because I like to talk to my Friends while riding but I dont think I have another choice.
@@nicolorenz4464 You could cut away from the EPS foam slightly where the speakers are placed. The trick there is to just get them a tiny bit deeper so that they don't touch your ear. Literally the speaker pads needs to be 2-3 milimeters deeper than if you just stick it there. I found that moving them slightly more forward towards your cheeks also helps. The speakers won't align perfectly with your ears, but that is no issue as they Harman & Kardon ones are loud enough.
Great video. Thank you very much. I just installed the Sena 50 S on a Shoei Glamster and installation was accordingly easy.
Glad it helped
Thanks Tony - very helpful.
No problem
Nice one Tony, well put together, bang on
Cheers
Thanks for this, really helpful, fitted comms to mine yesterday
Glad it helped
Thank you so much for this, it was incredibly helpful and just what I needed...
Love your videos Tony. Big fan of Sena units. I have them fitted to all my helmets. One can never have enough helmets 🤪
Thanks, and that’s true!
I have the same setup and the volume is ridiculously low. The system was installed by a professional at the shop. I need to check the installation again
Good review, mention how critical it is for speaker positioning as not all helmets have the ear recess in exactly the correct position and this can loose 50% of sound volume after fitting, I always first use my fingers and make an indent internally on the helmet liner across from my ear canal, this would be for speaker centre alignment.
Yep, there is usually plenty room for manoeuvre and it is the same for the Glamster
I have to put my speakers much lower than the cutouts on this helmet. Not sure if it’s my head or just odd cutout placement.
Is there a speaker cutout on the glamster 06? I didn't think there was?
Another great video. I do like the Sena clamp mount.
Cheers
Hi tony, nice video as allways , i never tryed one of these bluetooth comms, can you still ear your surroundings enough while you're riding and listening music?
yes you can :)
As Xizel says, yes most definitely
Very helpful! Great videos! Thanks
No problem
How about going at it with a Dremel? Is it possible to cut material away? I'd really like to buy this helmet, but I don't want pain in the ears from speakers.
Possible I guess, but I wouldnt want to mess around with the EPS liner!
Excellent review! 😀👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you! 👍
Another excellent video !. One question, can the unit be used for listening only, without the microphone plugged in ??. Thanks.
Yes it can
@@mancavemoto Thanks for that 😊
thanks mate. great vid!
Cheers
hi, is it possible you to show us how to adjust visor (it seems a little bit confusing), using the oil, screw adjustment etc ?
Great review as ever man cave Dave. I was thinking about the new Sena S5 it's just very cool, compact and cheap. But the big problem is no mash up and only one rider. Please tell me it's at least possible to pair to another rider not just the pillion on your bike? U mentioned the range, what is it 700m? If I can talk to one friend on the go, that would be enough for me. And you're right it really looks great on the Glamster.
Thanks Marko, yes it will connect to another rider either a pillion or another bike. Range is fine and mesh is only worthwhile when you are riding in large groups anyway 👍
@@mancavemoto Hi Tony, yes I know about mesh and it also comes to use when u ride two bikes and both carrying pillons. This Sena looks great and the screen even though looks cool isn't really important. I decided I am gonna buy the 20s evo. Now I can find it cheaper for 175€ single set.
Hi Tony - just made the same install and I've got to say... the wind noise around the SENA is unbearable. I have 33db rated earplugs and it's still too much. It seems if I block the air under it, then it dies down. Have you had the problem? Any fixes?
Wish my Nexx XG 100R would take speakers. Sold my Glamster because it was so noisy for me.
Are the smh5 speakers compatible w the 5s? I've got multiple helmets w smh5 speakers installed already. Next helmet will prob be the glamster or the x14. How's glamster holding up? Thanks alot from the east coast
Good question i'd need to check. I've subsequently sold the Glamster as it wasn't getting worn, but it seemed to be holding together nicely.
What is the continuous run time before it needs charging if one played music continuously?
7 hours of continuous use
thanks for the vid. i would go for the 3S for this helmet
Yep good call, there is a new 3S Plus coming very soon too
@@mancavemoto thats good news I didn’t know thanks :)
Just saw your comment! Did you go for the 3S? And if, does it works well? Thanks ;)
@@Simon-xs6en i had a 3S on my previous helmet GT air and I think it does everything I need of it without impacting the exterior of the helmet. Now I have a Glamster and waited for the 3s plus to release to install on the glamster, visually the result is great but the headphones don’t fit in perfectly and they are quite large so they touch your ears that for me causes discomfort. I use a neck warmer that covers my ears and this helps a lot. Luckily for me I’ve always used nec warmers this way since I’ve started biking, Sumer or winter I just think it brings extra comfort and also protects my nec from wind and insects
@@xizel that's an extremely helpful comment! thanks a lot! I only ride with neck warmers in winter and my biggest concern was, that the headphones would touch my ears. So I think I need a different solution, although I like the simplicity of the 3S. Well, thanks again and ride safe ;)
Thanks for the video! Did anyone try to install the Sena 3S Universal in a Glamster and could tell me if the thicker speakers are disturbing? thanks a lot ;)
Great video! I'm really hesitating in buying a glamster since it doesn't have dedicated cut outs for the speakers. Do you notice any difference in terms of comfort in your ears?
No none at all
With my previous helmet, I always had to unfold my ears once on, I don't with the Glamster so it must have more ear room than my previous helmet
Fast forward 8 months and I gave up using my intercom on the glamster. Still love riding with it though. I just feel that it is way more comfortable to use the intercom in an helmet with dedicated speaker pockets. I guess it comes down to your fit specifically
@@mbrunskill agree
@@absentfromtheworld What system did you go with?
Excellent review. Does it break in a lot or just a little? I am in between two sizes. M and L. Thank you
Not a lot no, but I haven’t worn it a lot to be fair
I'm also in between sizes M and L. I got the M with the M5 liner and 35mm cheek pads and it fits perfectly.
Hi Tony, I believe CPB-1 original Shoei dark smoke visor came out, is there any news about the Photochromic transition visor is due soon?
I’ve not seen anything but Shoei seem to have a lot of new gear coming this year, so hopefully that will be amongst them
I've just ordered the S5 for my Glamster - how has yours held up?
It’s been good
ive tested the Sena 3S plus on this and unfortunately because the batteries are in the headphones, the headphones are too large and they touch my ears and are quite uncomfortable. its really a shame because for me it was the perfect intercom that looked good on this helmet. im out there looking for another solution. any ideas?
The Cardo freecom x is a similar size and should offer slimmer speakers. Plus they connect with a standard 3.5mm jack, so you could swap them out for some wired in ear ones which would solve the problem
Hi again Tony, can you just answer my question about pairing the Sena S5 with another rider? Can you pair with a buddy on another bike, what's the range like? I hope it's at least 700-800 m, otherwise it is made to only pair it with a pillion. Now I know you mentioned that in this vid, but have you tested the range and quality of connection for coms communication with a rider on another bike? I am finally about to order my Shoei glamster for Christmas and I haven't decided yet which Sena to buy. Unlike you I don't have 33 helmets and comes units, you probably have other Sena's as well so how does S5 compare? I suppose 20s evo which I could maybe try and find used on Ebay cause it's to expansive for me, is way better than S5? Mainly due to its mash or multiple rider communication capabilities?
Hi Marko, Did I miss a qustion? apologies. Yes you can connect the 5S with another rider. The quoted range is 700m, I used it when riding with a friend recently and we didnt have a problem, it was very reliable. I don't have 33 helmets and I only have two comms units! If you want to connect with multiple riders then you will need something other than the 5S, mesh is only really useful for large groups. I had 30k for a while and that was very good, they can be picked up cheaper now that the 50s has been launched. tinyurl.com/sena30k
@@mancavemoto Thanks Tony, I was only joking about 33 helmets and coms. I know you test the products so for that reason it may seem that way sometimes. Only a joke man, I really like your reviews. Great Tony thanks for the link because I think I need a comm unit which can also do mesh. Because I will ride in larger groups now and then. But also not to often, so you see my dilemma? 5S Sena is really cute and not to expensive .
Hi Marko, no problem I realised you were joking, it’s sometimes hard to show a tone when replying to comments. 😁 yep it’s a tricky choice
@@mancavemoto Yes Tony I understand it's hard to answer all the questions,. I am sure you could do it for a month straight and still would've missed out on some. I am also planning to start a recreational UA-cam channel soon. Will see than how I cope with this. I was wondering does sport bike shop give any discounts due to your channel, any promo code I can use, like Mancave welcome or something like that?
Thanks Marko, I look forward to seeing what you do. There isn’t a discount code sadly, I don’t think I’m big enough for them for somethings like that, but they do consistently seem to offer some of the best prices
Will the headphones press against the ears? Thanks
I didnt notice it
if you have an Iphone can you test it with siri? Mine used to work but since the IoS update it's stopped working, something about bluetooth protocols etc etc 'insert boring techy stuff here'
Hi Stuart, I just tried it to be sure and yep Siri works fine. iPhone 8 ios14.2
@@mancavemoto Much appreciated!! Might have to buy myself a present.
There a space for using sunglasses?
Yes no problem
This must be a Glamster 05, or?
Yes 22.05 helmet, the video was made in 2020.
Can you use go pro?
What do you mean?
Sorry Tony I was gonna write man cave Tony but somehow I wrote Dave. Sorry.
Tony you are so cute. 🥰
Errr thanks?!