Ancient Chinese civilisation was a product of European intelligence and enterprise
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- It is often claimed that China rose independently as a great civilisation of the ancient world, but this is not true. It was largely a product of Europe and the Middle East.
What came first the rolex or the fake rolex
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The Lowlex 😊
@markbild2366 what came first? The mechanical clock that was invented by the Chinese or the vulgar Rolex wristwatch?
Fake Rolex came first.
The East Asia has the highest IQ.
Keep our history alive while they knock down our statues! By that I mean the self haters and the people who print our money.
Your history consisted of rape, torture, pillage and destruction of other countries.
The self-haters are nothing more than expendable puppets and fools, controlled by _the people who print our money._
Are you a Tokarian? Which history are you talking about?
You only have to look at what China was like when Chairman Mao was in charge. I first visited China three years after he died, it was little different to the pictures of China from eighty years earlier. They were still using steam locomotives where I was which looked like some of the locos the Germans were using in the 1930s. They did have some diesel locos as well. They even had some coal fired steam ships that looked to have come from the same era. The speed of the transformation into todays international manufacturing and technology centre was incredible to witness. I used to visit Shanghai a lot during the 1990s, every time I went the city had grown and more of the old part had vanished, more and more modern factories had appeared and it was pretty obvious that they had decided to emulate a Western style economy with a number of exceptions, they were never going to allow workers the same rights as Western counterparts, and the state was going to remain in overall control, independent companies do not have the same freedom that Western based companies do ( the Chinese government deny this of course )
It seems to me that the West are now copying China were you will be allowed to accumulate some personal wealth and be permitted certain freedoms but the state will control every aspect of your life. Any criticism will not be tolerated. I'm sorry but everywhere I look these days I see evidence that that is the path we are taking in the West and the frightening thing is millions of people are meekly accepting it. I wonder which race came up with the concept of totalitarianism, I have to give it to them, it has certainly endured.
Oy vey.
it was only a matter of time before capitalists realised that you cannot eradicate an idea (communism) but you can control it as can be seen in communist controlled china, now that same control is almost here and its name is globalism = capitalists controlling communism in britain via the liblabcon uniparty. capitalists controlling communism internationally = practically every organisation you once thought were on your side and who some of you would have donated money to for years.its a cruel awakening for those who gave to help others to realise their funds were used to destroy the givers and not to assist those they thought were the receivers.
The immoral lead the unintelligent while the timid cower in silence.
I'm....I'm going to say the wrong thing one day, and end up in prison aren't I?
@@tigger4000 yes. yes, you are.
We wuz chinese and shi
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You can sniff at Feng Shui all you like Simon . Last week I moved my sofa 3 inches to the right , and now I'm a millionaire with a big willy . Talk your way out of that one .
You found the money under the sofa, and in the act of picking it up were stung on the genitals by an angry bee.
Be careful though. I moved my sofa 3 inches the wrong way, and now I'm broke and women point and laugh.
@@wilhelmvonn9619 Daddy!!!!! ( Move it back Dad)
I didn't move mine and now I'm a zillionaire with a bigger willy. First liar never wins. 😊
I asked an actual dragon to arrange my furniture to its liking, and now I'm immortal and can climax a woman with the wave of my hand. Checkmate, Simon!
Why then did Marco polo and all other travelers in the middle ages descibe China as having the most advance culture to be found anywhere on earth?
Marco Polo was naive, and corrupted by the gifts he received, like today, even then, he simply told tales out of enthusiasm.
And you are not naive?@@JICKY2.0
@@JICKY2.0huh
@@JICKY2.0no simply China offered everything while west had nothing to offer at the time
The indoeuropean migrations were thousands of years before Marco Polo
My GP is into Feng Shui, he keeps moving my appointments.
Excellent🤣
He'll no doubt recommend decluttering the back passage
I guess he's taking the Minimalist approach :D
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securityrobot Very very funny, but as opposed to moving the furniture
We Wuz Kangs White Edition
All the DNA in the Chinese pyramids show that Caucasians were the oldest civilisation and predate the denisovans
How can they predate denisovans? Denisovans were contemporary with Neanderthals. There are no pyramids that old
... and you did the testing? What were their haplogroups? Blood types... details pls...
The Chinese tend to hide that fact. It embarrasses them.
That's funny. It's good to have a laugh. @BrickyMindset45
@BrickyMindset45disgruntled blaque man now not giving us credit for China, let us have our flowers
In more recent times they did invent money laundering nail bars that disgrace every Highstreet across this land.😐
You rarely hear of Chinese people being involved in Crime .. Because the Triads stop them .
That's the Vietnamese.
Don't forget the `Chinese takeaway` too.
Brilliant remark. Thank you.
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The Indo-European tribes you mention had no written language and had no technologies beyond that of the early Bronze age. Not to mention there is no overlap between the settled areas of the ancient Chinese and Yamnaya (the steppes were not ever controlled by the Chinese until after the birth of Christ), making your transmission theory unlikely.
What is for certain is that Iron technology, which is an even more crucial stage of development, was not developed in Europe independently but rather spread out from Mesopotamia. So unless you are willing to credit European civilization to the Iraqis, you cannot also credit Chinese culture to Europe.
This video really seems indistinguishable from Afro centrists who claim much the same thing for the rest of the world.
The Iraqis? Check your anachronisms, Mr T.
I think we can credit the Yamnaya with horse husbandry and from that (via the chariot) with the wheel. But beyond that everything was likely borrowed from their neighbours. As for the Y introducing weaving into China - that’s beyond absurd. Weaving is one of the oldest human inventions, certainly predating the Y by thousands of years.
I totally agree with you, the claims put forward here claim Yamnaya as European exclusively while they were a people which influenced the development of all of Euroasia by interbreeding, trading and cultural exchange.
I believe the mainstream theory os that iron came out of Anatolia from the Hittites, not from Iraq.
you downgrade Indo-European innovativeness quite a bit, first cities were in Europe before middle east lol
Part of what held up later Progress was ironically China. It was such an effective storage material that they had little need of creating anything new. Others invented glass, discovered its light bending properties and created glasses so that aging scholars could continue their work while their mind were sharp even though their eyesight was failing.
And that led to the microscope the telescope and therefore to the discovery and invention of everything else.
@@Richard-r1x7d don't think either of those was necessary for electricity generation....
Ancient Chinese did invent spectacles, but they did not have lenses made of ground glass, but of opaque jade as ceremonial wear employed by judges to hide their eyes when delivering death sentences. 15th century Italians had the clever idea of replacing the jade with glass lenses.
'Feng' from the Chinese word for sense.
',Shui' = more money than.
Yes, celebrities, pop stars and actors. Give me £5,000 and I'll come round and rearrange your furniture for you.
If you leave a coffee table in front of a passageway between rooms such that you bash your shin on it every time you walk from one room to another, then it will have an obvious detrimental effect on your life and well being. Move the coffee table a little further out of the way and it will be less invasive, possibly imperceptively so but still have a sub-conscious negative impact, conversely there will be a sweet spot in the room where the coffee table best serves its positive purpose with the least negative impact. Feng Shui is nothing less than this practice taken to the degree of art if not actual science, interior decoration taken to the level of literary criticism.
@@canjian1783 I've effectively stated this very thing myself, only for it to be thanklessly shut down.
I got the "knack" of Feng Shui *perfectly* around 20 to 25 years ago, similarly using an analogy of a pointed object sitting directly in line with the person - possibly at risk of falling on to oneself, should the wind blow just a little too strongly - as something of a more extreme example of the significance of the art.
Extremely aware of "secret arrows", passages of energy where stillness is more beneficial (on even a subconscious level), how the layout of the natural environment outside can affect the functioning of somebody indoors - all these sorts of things.
Honestly, I'd leave them to it, as they deserve the hardships associated precisely with what they wilfully dismiss.
Neither attempting to resolve the issue with them, *nor* leaving them to it, *ever* leads to an actively positive outcome either way (as they've proclaimed their own thinking), so therefore I do and say nothing after finding such dismissals (except maybe *ONCE* to allow them to quietly reconsider or enquire, and then that's it).
If anything in fact, they _may_ find such refutations, as a form of irritation, as their own convictions are being requested to be reassessed, which is something in and of itself, that is... difficult, for them to process (as they at least make apparent).
Mention of burning smudge sticks to seep deep into the pores of the atmosphere to cleanse it of energy depleting impurities will get one laughed away - despite an already unspoken understanding of why they're significant.
My way of addressing this type of dismissal, is to honour their example by not give them my energy either, and repeating it each and every time the same pattern emerges.
They certainly won't feel sad about it like you or I might, so I therefore won't feel sad because I won't engage them to begin with.
Empathy for others has to be complemented with empathy for oneself, to be empathic for those who indicate that they need it.
A much more noble cause.
@@canjian1783 it's all about the flow of energy. more people should look into such things as Radionics for example, just play five minutes with a Hironymous machine. also look into the "creepers" of the 60s and 70s. These were people who would sneak into your house and rearrange all the furniture the curtain. The worst cases were when they did it when the people were inside sleeping just imagine waking up in the morning and finding your living room is now up on the roof. Instant psychotic episode. Simmons expertise being history I'm betting that if he looks into them, he would probably be doing a two parter!
@@canjian1783 I am not pro or anti Feng Shui but i do like your answer. A dedication to the pursuit of perfection of a singularity just like how some people dedicate their lives to perfecting the art of making tea or calligraphy.
Bro 风水 means wind and water
Adds up. When Europe explored both China and Japan during the age of discovery they found civilisations frozen in the past.
An interesting aspect of the resulting interaction was that Japan started to make a habit of utilising what the west had to offer them. China by contrast continued to reject what was on offer.
The result was that Japan steamed ahead technologically. China suffered a devastating invasion by Japan facilitated by Japan's advanced position. The invasion was only curtailed because the west got involved.
Later in the 20th century the Japanese became a preeminent industrial power but only on the back of western inventions, particularly in electronics. It's worth noting that none of the core electronic components and applications were invented in Japan. It was all down to western inventiveness.
All this remains the same today for both China and Japan
Everything great in the world originated with us!
correct but the problem for us is that when both of them realised that the west would not accept second rate goods anymore they both moved on to a higher level of quality production while we in the west sold them our oldest and most inventive companies as we pretended that not being self sufficient in essential goods and services didn't matter as our competitors would always help us out.we are run by a cretinous political and establishment class who still think they are on the playing fields of eton and everybody will play by their queensbury rules.
@@thomasrobert4654 Spot on
The west , you mean the brief period of 2 to 3 years between the Renaissance and industrial revolution the likes of britain was the laboratory and sweatshop of the world, before then a relative backwater,. You gratefully took the baton and ran admittedly, but thats not an innovation, now you see the likes of China , Japan do the same , and they should be eternally grateful to you ? . Perhaps in the future africans will be indebted to the Chinese , when they ascend the throne.
Modern China is the NWO banking elites project that uk USA allowed in the 90s and Clinton signed in with ts also the reason we gave back hong king china was to become the western elites sweat shop in return we shared with them 30 yr old tech and gave them mega loans it’s all Rothschild banking elite investors shit and before that China was a paddy field. One of the deals was they get Hong Kong we get 1 billion sweat workers. The uk shared with them radar Millie and electronics tech as did the USA all of it of course 30 yrs behind
The Chinese also adopted a European system of government. Communism.
And adapted it to mirror the old Imperial structure .Its unrecognizable as communism now (because it didnt work)
Communism is not European it's Jewish and They want to cause The ultimate form with no going back common mixed rootless dependable slaves with no identity or direction
That's not European. You can find photos of Chairman Mao and his friends that write in hebrew.
@@Stand663 communism is not European it's Jewish
@@Stand663 that's Jewish, most inventions white man try to appropriate is actually middle eastern Jewish
Hmmm, so why did the Chinese have cities, an Emperor, had devised Confucianism and other Chinese philosophies, written The Art of War, had crossbows, advanced irrigation, an intricate and highly complex writing system etc, while the Celts and the Germans were still living in mud huts?
* an intricate and highly complex writing system * Whilst we have a simple and effective system . . . ?
@@EllieMaes-Grandad The Chinese writing system was designed to be understood across multiple languages. The symbols/characters of traditional Chinese writing had the same meaning when read in Japanese or Korean even though the words for these things were different, thereby facilitating communication among different elites. It did the job it was designed to do.
their moon runes may be complex but are far from practical
@SockAccount111 depends on context.
Written Chinese can be understood regardless of dialect the reader speaks, which is incredibly practical for administering an empire.
@@lam7499 So is teaching your language to the small subsect of people actually needed to administer an empire while using a far simpler alphabet than can virtually replicate all sounds (and that can be therefore adapted to phonetically transcript other languages, if need be) with a couple dozen characters rather than thousands of signs- bonus point being this makes it far easier for a larger chunk of the population, including its lower strata, to become litterate, as opposed to the chinese system
It is surely an interesting system in its own right, but I would not go out of my way to call it practical, if not for an orientaIist tendency to aggrandize and overstate anything that ever came out of china
I am Chinese person from Peking university I total agreement you
This information was well known prior to WW2
I believe this comment conversation is genuine too
Nick.. Both your sentences you have written are in poor English by the way... Tony cuenca
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Brutha, his name is the n word.
@craphead9842 ¿how did you count past 1? that's 1 sentence composed; we all be trying innit.🤣
Be fair they did invent covid
Fauci helped
Ukrainian/US biolabs
@@The_Custos covid was first reported in Wuhan where there was a lab investigating that particular type of virus. are you a useful fool for the Russians or the Chinese?
they spread it
@@The_Custosit was made by cheenk
Although it’s fair to say that the Chinese probably gained something from a cultural exchange with Tocharians, this contribution by the Tocharians was relatively minor in the history of China and China is still a mostly self made nation.
To say that they got their civilisation from Tocharians would be kinda like saying Germans got their civilisation from Greeks. It’s true that Greeks and Romans did provide a foundation for the rest of Europe to stand on, but the other European nations are still mostly self made. The classical works of antiquity make up a relatively pretty small portion of modern western civilisation, the vast majority western inventions were made post antiquity. Likewise, whatever the Tocharians gave to the Chinese make up a pretty small portion of the total Chinese history as of the current day.
The Chinese deserve credit for their civilisation just like France, Germany, Britain and the USA deserve a lot of credit for modern western civilisation.
You've gone too far this time Simon. You've clearly never had a Chinese mother in law.😂
Nor should you.
@@ghostlyimageoffear6210clearly he had. Whatever are you gonna do about it?
@@ghostlyimageoffear6210why
yeah and the Chinese exterminated all the blonde people they could find, they have records of it "survive the Jive" covers it
Should watch Asha Logos as well. They're both great channels
Link please 👍🏻
@@ljnv Two of the very best
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Correct. Chinese civilization is also built on the Han Chinese ethnically cleansing everyone else, but China pushes wokeness for the West though.
I love the study of ancient language. Much surprising truth to be found there.
I don't get the bit about writing. The Chinese system of writing pictograms vertically appears to owe nothing to Europe, or even the Fertile Crescent. There are other matters such as ceramics or silk products that are indigenous. In the case of gunpowder, the reverse seems the case; the Europeans copied and improved from China.
I had the same thought regarding writing. Thank you for the counterpoint.
The point on writing is that the yamniya (sic) potentially brought the idea/ ability of writing, how this was then developed was a regional thing. Interesting to note that Chinese read top to bottom, Europeans LtoR and Arabic RtoL yet all come from the same source.
Bollox
@@MrWeAllAreOne well I'm pretty sure neither of us know ....which is why I said 'potentially'. Since you think it's bollocks try elaborating on your point.
There is no evidence that the Yamnaya wrote anything. Writing appeared in the Fertile Crescent before 3kBCE. So did the wheel. It was the mastery of horse riding that distinguished them. This may have been due to the genetic variant of their horses as much as any great ingenuity on their part.
Europeans built China just like Subsaharan Africans built Stonehenge and Hadrians Wall.
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Yes of course, Its recently been discovered that Stoned henge was built by Africans as part of a massive ganja plantation. 😊
The blonde & redheaded Tocharian peoples were the inspiration for GoT’s Targaryens.
“Blue-eyed, pale-skinned, yellow-bearded Immortal God-kings descending from the heavens standing on the backs of giant flying serpents” is the creational story of the Chinese royal dynasty. They claim these tall pale men seeded their royal family. Watch Robert Sepehr’s video “Ancient Mummies, Chinese Pyramids & Samurai DNA”.
And then you’re probably going to have to research #Copemaxxing
@@stephfoxwell4620 Tocharian mummies. Celtic-swirl face tattoos, celtic animal artwork, swastika jewellery, tartan-pattern trousers, Caucasian faces, blonde and red hair. Perfectly-preserved “Western” faces.
Robert Sepehr’s channel has a whole documentary on it. “Chinese Pyramids & Samurai DNA”.
The Targaryens of Game of Thrones are based primarily on the Tocharians & the Chinese creational legend about “immortal god-kings with blue-eyes, pale skin, yellow beards, averaging 6ft6”, riding giant serpents down from the heavens”.
@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Similar to the Scythians.
Facts Simon. It's why they don't excavate the ancient burial mounds in Central asia/western China. They know those buried are not Chinese.
Pyramids are not burial places. That's dogma backed by pseudoscience
The white mummies? Wouldn't surprise me. Even the Egyptian pharaohs were white. They share more genetics with Europeans than they do modern Egyptians or sub Saharans
@BrickyMindset45 Tarim mummies.
Schock Horror! Total dismay.
I know more about China's history than anybody else on earth.
My pen name is Raven Alb J and wrote about who the early Chinese were. They were White Race and there is no contest about it.
The Yellow Race who are in China today do not even have the word CHINA or CHINESE in their language.
Look at their main language named MANDARIN..........do you know that the Yellow Race people who call themselves HAN cannot pronounce the letter R???
Marco Polo who reveals much of who the Chinese were in his time (he called them MANZI) said that the River called Huang Ho today, was CARA MORAN meaning "Great River".
The Yellow Race people were brought 2200 years ago as slaves to built the Chinese wall. They took over China 600 years ago what the power of the Mongols was gone.
😂 Total rubbish. Simon has his 'We wuz Emperors' rant
Well, it is Europeans that invented We Wuzing, Aframs just appropriated it from them.
They calling neanderthals Europeans/Caucasian 💀
@@roylle6346how are they from the caucuses
@@Boconnor401. Who?
We still haz Kangz
What a load of rubbish to attribute Chinese civilization to interactions with the Yamnaya people. Not a fan of China but you have to fess up.
The tocharians were Buddhist and translated texts and introduced Buddhism to China in year 400
Yuezhi were in gansu and let's not forget the wusun in far west
The Chinese even sent 2 princesses to marry their king 2200 years ago roughly
@@JoeBidet-yb5er And Chinese princesses married Tibetans, therefore oh my God, Tibetans invented Chinese civilization .
@@ikengaspirit3063 I never said anything of sort
Simply stating factual history
And showing han links with xinjiang 900 years before uyghurs arrived
@@JoeBidet-yb5er Oh, Okay.
I didn’t know this and will research this more.
Our now looked down upon pride as a people has yet even more justification.
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As an English teacher of international students, I have been told numerous times over the years of the five famous inventions of the Chinese - gunpowder and writing, I can’t remember the rest. The point is that they are clearly taught this at school as proof of the greatness of Chinese civi.
Marco Polo marveled at China's cultural customs, great wealth and complex social structure. He was impressed with the empire's paper money, efficient communication system, coal burning, gunpowder and porcelain, and called Xanadu "the greatest palace that ever was."
@@sueedwards9334 Printing, Pasta, Paper, Silk , Porcelain and Compasses.
And glassware
@@AngelBaby-cp6kf Polo was naive and crooked.
@@AngelBaby-cp6kf Polo also routinely made up stuff like unicorns or something lol
I think there is a vast difference in potential between a 63~67 avg. IQ population and a 100~105 one.
You still need creativity
The Han Chinese are capable of Nation wide organisation and self governance for one.
They only have to be shown a thing once to grasp it...whereas others have had trillions of dollars aid and hours of training and yet manage to sell the pumps, seeds and farming equipment for an easy quick profit and then starve next harvest.
@@Jaime_the_New Yes, of course there is no comparison when it comes to ability.
@@stigcc Some of the new bridges, roads and buildings in China are remarkable...stupendous feats of engineering.
@@stigcc Oh absolutely, and that's where Europeans excel there's no one like us for invention, creation and discovery 👍 I just don't think the Chinese can be put in the same bracket as Sub-Saharan Africa.
Yamnaya culture went as far as Siberia and traces of their ancestry can be found among the Russian Siberian people which lived the nomadic steppe culture. Siberia is still a long way from China. The only thing anyone can copy is the revisionist history faking this cututres history. Also 3000 BCE Ancient China is not the time to go faking history and trying to push anything to the Chinese; they were engaged in a decade war of supremecy between Huangdi Yandi and Chiyou factions; the Yamnaya culture would have first encroached on Shennong Tribe land and massacred because their dumbass walked into an active warzone.
It was the yamnaya who came from siberia..... they're descendants of ANE (ancient north eurasians)
This is the same with Japan when they opened up to the west copied and improved everything. Nearly all the industries in the far east was kickstart by the west after the war. The result we lost our industries to them.
yep,its an ill wind.
Yeah and his claim is false though existing near chinese in some population doesn't make them contribute to chinese history hope u understand world is not white mr hiteler 😂.
Sad to say that the story of Britains inhabitants around ten thousand years ago has been written out of our history books, as the builders and massive intellects behind Stonehenge and hundreds of other ancient sites in England and Wales have been subjected to genocide by the invaders from Europe, in particular the BeakerPeople, who destroyed the ancient culture of the "LongHeaded " people. The LongHeaded people have left us with evidence of the discovery of magnetism in Stones, which was a major part of the healing and oracle purpose of Stonehenge, but importantly, we still have many of their skulls which denote the difference most markedly, The Long Headed people had extraordinarily long skulls and massive cephalic capacity compared with the invaders from Europe. The archeological socities and academics have largely written Britains original Stonehenge builders out of history, but more can be learned from Maria Wheatley's book entitled : The Secret History of Stonehenge, Ancestral Mysteries and Lost Civilisations."
What about Coral Castle in the USA?
That was really interesting ,this is why I watch your vids every day Simon.
This was how
"I'm not saying it's aliens...
BUT IT'S ALIENS!"
got started.
According to all the programs on Blaze you are correct
There is no way that anyone else could have invented e.g. wet planting of rice... certainly not Yamyana as rice is climate specific. anither example :Silk was unknown in the West and intelligence was required to observe the moth cocoons and work out it's usefulness as a textile fabric. Using tea leaves boiled in water to purity drinking water is another.This demonstrates the early Chinese ability to be inventive as does e.g. porcelain production. Certainly some ideas originated in the steppe culture region.But equally they will have acquired some from East Asia
This hypothesis is too simplistic.
Agreed. But what you've shown is that human beans are universally ingenious and creative. But I think Simons general point stands that the exchange of ideas was as much from Europe to China as vice versa.
Thank you for this interesting counterpoint!
@@stevenfarrall3942 It certainly demonstrates many early Europeans Soith Asians and East Asians were...
Elsewhere I await hopefully for evidence
They can bet your life it was Aryans behind those innovations if you go far enough in time. The Chinese are just copiers.
Tea and (to the best of me recollection from uni) silk were both originated in India, so not the best examples.
The rest are valid but barring rice, don’t really refute the argument; they’re later iterations of other technologies. I know bone China was present by Qin, but I don’t recall seeing any in Shang collections, let alone the purported Xia materials. The timescale being argued would be pre-Xia.
Paddy fields, while wonders of hydraulic engineering, being touted as an innovation is always curious, given that wild rice is basically a reed. It grows on flood plains during wet season and in places like Canada, was harvested by pulling down seed heads and bashing them on the inner rim of your canoe so you can scoop up the grains later (or on a smaller scale, holding a bowl under it and tapping with Stick). Genuinely, does everyone else not realise this and stubbornly grow it on dry land?
A very bold title for a video that doesn't provide nearly enough e ividence to support it
The "Ancient East" is Fiction, created by the Modern West.
I had never heard of Yamnaya culture. Thanks.
Might I recommend Survive The Jive channel. He has a few videos re the yamnaya. As does Dan Brown
Also Asha Logos
China has a total of 5 Nobel prize winners in science. Every European country has far more than that. China excels at copy and paste.
@tantalize5795 yeah and it has like a hundred jews giving euros a run for their money, what's your point?
They'd have more but the state keeps them to work on weapons and other technologies, while the west is building things like amusement parks, fast food restaurant chains, and phallic shaped "modern art" the chinese are building new weapons systems, nuclear power plants, and industry
Islam will soon take over and erase everything.
sure look up their early mechanical inventions and their rocket launchers .
@@cantmossadtheassad9952And gender studies and importing the arrogant, entitled, divisive, hostile third-world pestilence known for not very much compared to Europeans. Gee, I wonder why we're not only no longer progressing, but we're actually going backwards?! Nahhh, 'multiculturalism' is "our strength"!
Always thought it was strange many Chinese and Japanese light skinned are surrounded by darker skinned cultures.
The original Japanese "Jomon" were like the Ainu mainly found in Hokkaido now. Most modern japanese carry (as well as about 10%of the above) DNA from a later (though still ancient) migration via Korea of ancient Yellow River people. They brought rice cultivation to Japan and slightly lighter skin.
@@martinjackman2943The Jamon were White.
@@Occident. We're talking 14000+ years ago It's likely they came from the precursors of both Europeans and East Asians... so both and/or neither really.
@@Occident. Yes they were,
The Ainu of Japan, a Tiny minority now, looked White in photos iv seen of them from over 100 years ago? They are largely mixed now.
In the Taklamakan desert archeologists have found European skeletons from 2500 years ago including a heavily tattooed women ...You have a point Simon ..
Thats in Chinese Turkestan lol not in the Chinese core
A skeleton with tattoos?
@TechnoMagi-h4r BS. europeans are adamic the inheritors of abrahams and God the Father covenant. 25000 years ago skeletons was fallen angels and other genetic family tree material they were freely slithering around in.
@johnmac8084
I’m sure he’s referring to the mummified bodies found there in the pits.
That's settled then. They were English.
Just about all the English gals I banged had tattoos and tramp stamps 😂
Mr Simon, I find a lot of your comments on China to be similar and rather dismissive and of questionable accuracy. It is more than a bit disingenuous to remark that China benefitted from exposure to other cultures and their technology when that is kind of a universal truth even in Europe.
They have certainly shown a great quality in adaptation and development of ideas and technologies that suited them, even to the point that they dwarfed and redistributed more greatly than the people that they were originally influenced by. Even their form of communism is just little more than a rebranding of the imperial bureaucracy. What was gained from India (a lot) and Iran and North and Central Asia was remade Chinese, such that it was the Chinese version of many things that spread to other cultures such as Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, or Mongolia, and even to the West through British and American influences. Think for a moment that when you think of Buddhism, do you ponder China and Japan, or India where it originated. I would hazard that many would imagine China. Similarly, Chinese Kung Fu was legendarily introduced to Shao Lin by an Indian monk called Bodhisattva (Ta Mo), but is unquestionably Chinese culture.
The Chinese are more similar to the British than is comfortable to many in this regard, but they thankfully kept most of their violence and conquest local or internal. Also on that note, consider that China is almost as large as Europe and has or had at least 6 major and God knows how many minor cultures within its current geography. Few times in pre-communist history has China been whole and unified and then only briefly, but the Han culture has existed contiguously for millennia. You don't get to a fifth of global population for most of recorded history with extensive urbanization and land and river transport, agricultural reclamation and flood control, and full bureaucratic control with accurate records, and wars involving hundreds of thousands with no ability to innovate and develop.
You can accuse the Chinese and Japanese and even India of being stubbornly traditionalistic, and lagging in the early industrial age because of it. To say that they would be in the stone age without influence from the stone age is a bit of a head scratcher...
Well said. I admire the Chinese. They're the oldest current civilization and I love how they respect their ancestors
You are way too polite and patient attempting to engage in constructive criticism with this old nut-case. You’ve watched video. I presume you’ve read some of the comments by other viewers. Do you really think the man’s and most of his viewers’ mental state and epistemology are at the level required to process same historical analysis/scholarship? Let alone react accordingly to refutations of their claims?
The man is literally making unsupported claims throughout the video. His supporters in the comment section are even more deranged: the last comment I read was about how the ancient Chinese supposedly recorded descriptions of beings who were consistent with “Celtic eco-mythology”, for chrissake. I can’t even begin to understand what the hell that means.
When I see an Afrocentrist spout the wildest nonsense, all I want to do is just laugh. I cannot nor do I want to reason with him. There’s nothing different when it comes to these Eurocentricists.
@@homuraakemi4559Thanks. I love Japan also. Don't let these white supremacists divide us ❤
Oh dear Mr Webb, if you're going to upset a people, best not to choose one and a half billion of them 🤫
Be brave
😂 yes upset them with fake history and manipulation 😂.
@@The_Custos be brave 💪 in spreading misinformation ?.?
@@jen4ra-vs5og I agree with some of what he says, so don't think it is misinfo or disinfo. However, crafts, architecture, and agriculture would be indigenous, as would culture, poetry, and ethics. The Chinese fell behind technologically many times, hence conquest by Mongols and the opium wars. Also see the boxer rebellion where they foolishly tried to take on most of the world while behind technologically.
And according to the late dictator Muammar Gaddafi, Shakespeare was an Arab, and his real name was Sheikh Zbir.
The remarkable thing about Europe was it made some of its greatest advances and inventions in the middle ages and renaissance when it was isolated and under siege from Islam to the south and to the east (but for a brief window when the Islamic empires were knocked back by the Mongols and Marco Polo was able to reach China). Civilizations normally exchange ideas with others but it's the ones that invent new concepts that really change history.
How is it possible that china could have been the same as south africa if theyre iq and industrusiness is unparalled to one another
Yes, bit of a stretch, isn't it? after all, sub-Saharan Africans also had the benefit of being exposed to European science and culture, but as the empire of dust meme video clip says "you were given everything and you destroyed it". asians on the other hand took these things and ran with them. Regarding the yamnaya, it would be more correct to refer to them as Eurasian
Idk if it's fair to characterize the Yamnaya as European per say, they are the ancestors of most modern Europeans, as well as many Indians, Afghans, and Iranians, but not exactly "European' in a modern sense. They are the first people to domesticate the horse that we know of, to ride around in carts, and to live off a diet of mostly milk and milk products. They certainly directly or indirectly introduced horse domestication to China. I know there was an early branch that settled in the Gobi desert who had a written language, so it makes sense that could have influenced early Chinese writing. However early Chinese writing systems may have been influenced by earlier calendar and astrology markings which date to before the Yamnaya expansion if I'm not mistaken. Either way, I don't know if it's fair to equate Yamnaya influence over Chinese civilization with "European" influence.
I also don't think it's fair to say the Chinese were very good at improving existing inventions, but not good at innovating themselves. Maybe they didn't invent the compass even though they stumbled upon magnetism, and yes they discovered black powder but didn't invent guns, but they invented fireworks and bombs. They invented paper and were innovative enough to use it as currency. They came up with silk worm cultivation and fine silk products. They invented movable type, and honestly the only thing that held them back from mass producing books like Europeans was they didn't have a phonetic alphabet (which also isn't European or Yamnayan in origin but semitic.) I think you could equally argue that much of European civilization has piggy-backed off of other non-European and non-Yamnaya innovations, if you were to cherry pick as much with Europe as with China. You are correct that regardless of whether it's "courteous" or not, truth is Chinese civilization didn't evolve in isolation. Because no civilization has. I think it's incorrect though to state that Chinese civilization has only ever improved upon inventions introduced to them by others. They're not Sub-Saharan Africa.
Subsaharan Africa independently developed Metallurgy, Plant domestication and farming.
@@Xxx-y9d mmm... maybe? my last comment was a little cheeky. That's possible, but they also weren't the first to do it and Afro-Eurasian civilizations are all interconnected just like North and South American civilization is connected. I think it's possible they came up with it on their own but am more inclined to believe it was introduced to them through trade networks with more far flung civilizations. Same as early Europe
@@Michael-io6db Nonsense, West Africa is one of the 8 independent regions where plant domestication and farming were invented. There is no evidence that this or Metallurgy were imported into those regions from elsewhere.
@@Xxx-y9d < Thinks Wakanda was real.
@@Xxx-y9d The farming is true..The metallurgy claim needs more evidence.. I'm not ruling it out though
I thought the Chinese invented gunpowder
They probably also brought the Chinese the dogs they so often did not treat not so well and didn't normally use for work or hunting like our ancestors did. I remember the pariah-type dogs that hung around the barracks in Vietnam. They moved around the area gingerly, flinched when touched, but were totally non-aggressive. An Italian guy from NYC marveled at dogs that didn't like to be petted. There's a new academic study about every six months or so on the origin of the domestic dog and most of the more recent ones seem to point to somewhere in Eastern Europe.
I think dogs were one of the first animals to be domesticated. They’re a natural companion for hunters, and we’re certainly looking back well into the Neolithic. Once you get to timescales of tens of thousands of years it pretty hard to be too specific about geography.
Yeah it's called migration bro😂 it's happened to birds horse animals dogs and cows are no different
Obviously all those terracotta warriors were originally painted black to accurately reflect to the cultural diversity in ancient China
Its safe to say European civilisation didnt arise independently or in isolation , simon.
Exactly we would still be primitive if it wasnt for mesopotamian civilization.
@@Jezza_One …your talking out of your ass
@@hiddentruth8741 No the logic Simon is applying is the same. Civilisation spread out of the fertile crescent into Asia and Europe. Even when the Romans arrived in Britain we were primitives, at that point China was even more advanced than Rome. What was our excuse?.
@@Jezza_One When will it reach France?
No Civilization arised independently or in isolation
There is a saying "ritareds don't grow on trees, they are born". 😂
One of Simon's dumbest! China had civilization BEFORE Europe had civilization. This is not a disputable fact.
All civilizations "slipstream" behind others at times. Europe didn't invent writing, the alphabet, higher maths, paper, printing, architecture, farming, copper, bronze, iron, steel, coinage, and so on.
Yet European civilisation has developed and lasted for millennia. What happened to that in China ?
@@EllieMaes-Grandad China looks pretty civilized to me now. Its Confucian civil service was the longest continuously running human institution ever.
@@EllieMaes-Grandad China right now is only longest continuous civilization in human history. Not European
@@EllieMaes-GrandadUh, you do realize China is still around, right? Looks to me European civilization is finally ending. Start learning Arabic, dear.
@@EllieMaes-Grandadthe jew from asia who build europe. U ar euncivilsed
Simon, are you saying that Europeans were responsible for the opium problem ? 🤔
Europeans did not invent addiction.
More crap from webb tell us about the English forcing Opium on the Chinese making the English Drug Dealers. 🤮
It was the usual suspects - an international cartel of self serving wise guys.
Every. Single. Time.
They did cause it. Research the opium wars.
Fascinating! Somewhat overstated, I wonder? Food for thought, in any case.
I remember seeing a documentary way back in 1999/8 on channel 4 "The Mummies of the Taklamakan Desert" narrated by Sean Barrett featuring American Sinologist Victor Maire and other scientists on an expedition to the Xinjiang autonomous region of western China (or east central Asia) and they examined mummies unearthed there. Their features were claerly caucasian/Europoid, some having blond hair! you would assume they were found in Scandinavia or another part of northern Europe NOT western China! Some so well preserved that they could have died a week ago. I was totally awestruck by this documentary. I also remember also first reading in David Crystal's book "Language" in the early 90s about written texts of an Indo European language named "Tocharian" being discovered in the 1920s in the same region
Fascinating. Simon, what of the origin of gun powder?
So this is how black people feel when watching Netflix documentaries
Interesting, but to be honest I don't think we have any more claim to originality in these matters than the Chinese. The Yamnaya people of what is now the eastern European borderlands are as remote from us as they are from them. So who is this 'we'?
Some Europeans are the most genetically related to them.
I am Iraqi and brown 29 year old man, I know that humans come in all sorts of shapes, sizes, and colours and OF COURSE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF BRAIN CAPACITY. I don't hate this truth, I love it and I am greatful that your PEOPLE have helped humanity so so so much. Your people's work is appreciated by me. Thank you, great loving humane people of the earth.
What nonsense is this? Iraq used to be as great as the Greeks and the Egyptians, it was after Arab colonization, Turkic and English conquest that is in bad state, which it will not be like that forever. One of the infinite historic periods of Greece, the medieval Greece or Byzantine empire as it's commonly known is bigger in contributions and about as old as the entire English history. You need a change of mindset and you need to start studying the philosophy of your own people. Pre Islamic of course. The richest man in Babylon is a global best seller and yet not many know this book within Iraq.
@Anastasis-is-here
I don't think the DNA of most of the Middle easterners belong to the Babilonians or the Sumerians you're talking about after the Islamic conquest the demographics landscape of the region have changed. Lebanese Christians DNA dates back to ancient civilizations that's why Lebanon used to be called the Paris of the Middle east but after the demographics change in Lenanon in recent few decades it's no longer the case.
@@lovepeople951 For starters DNA doesn't matter, mindset does, language and customs. We are all products of all the people who lived before us, something that is good. The more distance your ancestors have the better the offspring. If we were 100% the same we would look like weird creatures like some tribes of sub Sahara Africa like the Doma people or the old royals like Habsburgs.
@Anastasis-is-here
You might get me wrong. I am not suggesting anything when I say DNA has to do with IQ. Your people have better iq than my people. It's just a fact just that the woke scientific community is trying so hard to suppress. It's ok it's so normal, just as you having brown hair and me having black hair is OK, it's normal. Why censor one fact and not the other.
@@lovepeople951 Because it is not true. IQ is directly linked to education, people with better standards of living have better education and thus more IQ. It doesn't have to do with genetics. Humans are not animals. This is very backwards thinking.
What about gun powder and the use of paper money as legal tender, Simon? Did Chinese civilisation nick those too?
We all know the "benefits" of using paper money as legal tender . . . . the Romans didn't use it . . .
I don't remember the Shang Dynasty being European. This is just the same as the afrocentric movement.
Simon gets many things right, yet he also gets many things wrong. Clearly, this is one of them.
@@septimiusseverus343 indeed, it is very stupid to say that China is a product of European intelligence because Europe is not the center of the world and while his ancestors are busy pooping on pits and being traded as slaves by the Romans, my ancestors are already having a huge empire that influenced Korea and Japan
Japan also owes its current place on the international stage to England. A group of forward thinking students came to London and studied at UCL (there is a monument to them in the grounds) and they took what they learned about science, politics, finance and industrialization to help turn the country from a group of backward looking and traditional states into a thriving industrial power house. Even today a three piece suit is a Sebiro, a mispronunciation of Savile Row where dignitaries were kitted out.
General MacArthur dd a lot to modernize Japan after the war.
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You can't seriously be on thst we wuz kangs shit right now 😭
Funny, I thought the Chinese came from Mars…..
Sorry, Simon, you're quite wrong on this one. While it is true that the Chinese first used compass for divination, they also used it for navigation, at least 200 years before Europeans. The Chinese also invented gunpowder and used it for military purposes much earlier than Europeans. We Europeans are smart, but so are the Chinese. Let's give it to them and work with them to mutual benefit.
It is quite a misstep for Simon to take on this route for taking on Chinese, or rather a brave futile choice.
@@lotrlmao1648 Indeed, perhaps he should have googled up "IQ of nations" first... 😂
The Chinese may well of discovered black powder. But did nothing with it besides fireworks.
It was the European (and those of European decent) who developed it further, much further.
I can accept the Yamnaya-Tocharians brought the domesticated horse to China and with it the wheel as steppe nomads were likely the first to use both, but weaving? Weaving predates the Yamnaya by many millennia.
@@PhansiKhongoloza I suggest you search for fire lance. Stop believing all that 19th century style nonsense.
Continuing on that theme, just imagine what life would be like if we never bought slaves from Africa, I do not think we would have so many problems that we have now.
They were the basis for our economy just as they were the basis for the greek economy though.
You can still close those borders of yours and keep out third world economies.
Time to take some medications, Grandpa!
Before encountering this amusing channel, I had no idea Alf Garnett is still alive.
Firstly, the comparison between East Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa is... laughable!
I suppose that Simon wants to be ironic...
Just remember the IQ data around the world and, even more significantly, the academic positions of Asian people... in USA! On average they perform well above Western people in abstract subjects. Even using English, that is a big handicap for East Asian students.
In fact, currently, they have more science reasearch publications than "us", even taking on account the ratio respect the raw number of Science students.
Mysteriously, that "disabled" people is managing some of the main tech corporations, in a non-friendly society like USA. 🤔
It is very important to know that "indo-european" origin is not "european" origin. Taking on account that details about indo-european things are hardly well known, they apparently forked in two main paths: towards "west" and towards the Indo region (simplistically speaking).
So , the Indo zone has the same right to fame than the "west".
In the ancient pre-greek and pre-roman times, Europe, specially West Europe, was pretty lackluster, in comparison with Middle East , Egypt, Indo and East China. "Our" celts were relatively primitive, "our" goths were rather raw, in art, philosophy, cities even religion.
In fact, Europe never achieved to create a writing. Every European writing comes from Middle East, basically from Phoenician alphabeth. Greek, Roman, Cyrillic alphabeths are adaptations of it.
However, in Middle East and Egypt they created several very different wrtings. Same in East and South East Asia. Is Chinese writing inspired by any (non existent) european created writing? 🤔
Europe never was able to create a reasonable representation of numerical quantities. From an abstract mathematical POV, roman numbers are laughable, and greek numbers were even worse. Only the Indo people were able to give all of us a reasonable and workable way to represent numbers.
Even so, Europeans took time to understand zero (nothing) and negative quantities.
Europeans never have been very skillful in abstract concepts or long term ideas. In fact , "our" current religion was imported and defeated all our "native" religions. However, in East Asia they, in the BC centuries, developed complex philosophical religions, way above our native religions. Compare the intrincated writings of Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism with our primitive Celtic and Gothic pre-roman religions.
Until mid Middle Ages, only the well romanized part of Europe was culturally advanced. In particular, Britain was pretty rough. Same with North Europe. They certainly were not the origin of any significant knowledge. In fact, they mostly "copied" 😅 from the Greco-Roman South European culture. But they copied well, isn't it? 😉
Europeans are however the genetically closest to Indo-Europeans so I think it is valid to refer to them as Europeans.
Brilliant & informative vid - I knew none of this info - thanks so much. On the odd occasion I get irritated with a vid, but overall your channel is among the most important sources of info on the entire net. And as the work of one man, it is outstanding to say the least - bravo!
Any claims about 3000 BC are dubious at best.
It's called archeological register my dear.
What
China, Harappan, Maya, Sumer, Egypt, etc, etc, were great literate civilisations when Europeans were brutish, petty warring tribes living in hovels.
2:20 The Early Tarim Basin mummies that this theory rests on are not Indo-European, they're an isolate of Ancient North Eurasians(with minority East Asian genes) that phenotypically look like East Asians.
2:39 Those words are theorized to be related to Scythian not Tocharian showing date far, far later than when Chinese civilization started. And spread probably because Scythians had better wheels. Single word replacement is seen easily in many languages like how Horse in Proto-Indo-European is actually a Bohai(thus probably proto-Yenisean) word or just "Tea" in English.
And all of that is assuming those words are actually Indo-European cuz if your evidence is only lingusitic on a difficult to reconstruct language like Chinese and an overstudied proto-language like Indo-European, then it isn't a sturdy argument.
Bronze casting tho, is probably actually be introduced by Yamnaya. And introducing one technology does not introsuce civilization, make.
4:49 Writing?Like I don't know from where you get it from that Yamnaya or some later Indo-European group brought writing in China. *Is it from your dreams?*
3:45 so according to you here, Chinese invented it and Euroepans inproved upon it, completely breaking your argument. 😂😂😂
The most telling truth of this is that despite huge population numbers on the eastern and southern seaboard, Chinese civilization arose in the northwest, at the closest juncture to the West.
AS a European who lived in China for decades the Chinese are now beating them in all kinds of ways. Europe is now largely history and a museum with the future being anywhere but there. It is frightening how far behind it is falling compared with some other regions.
Interesting. Can you point out which aspect is the most notable one in term of how China is beating European?
@@lotrlmao1648 not interesting at all.go there yourself and find out
@@lotrlmao1648 Give you a hint as you cannot do these things for yourself. Growth rate. It is a bad year if Chinese growth is less than 5%. Europe is in a good year if growth is more than 1 and a half %.
@@lotrlmao1648 The Chinese roads/causeways/railroads, the bridges, the buildings - check out the new airport ! Huge construction projects.
@@erongi233 That rather relies upon their having access to Democratic markets does it not?
Horse collars, moveable types, locks for making waterways navigable, silk, fine ceramics.
Where did i put my tinfoil hat? Cause here's so much bulls*it
Could you please provide sources for this as I am interested in this subject.
I'm sorry Simon but I am afraid that you are confusing the Chinese with the Japanese. Whilst it is arguably true that the Japanese have never once come up with an original innovation of their own but are masters at refining and perfecting other peoples inventions be they technological, culinary, or clothing to name a few, the Chinese on the other hand are endlessly resourceful and innovative, and had a sophisicated culture long before European culture had gotten off the ground.
Whilst it might be possibly true following the Kurgen Hypothesis that modern self aware human consciousness might have had its birthplace somewhere around The Black Sea and spread outwards to Mesopotamia, The Indus Valley and possibly as far as China, it almost certainly took a hold much quicker over there than in Europe.
The problem with Chinese civilization is that just when you think you've learnt enough about it, you're hungry to learn even more.
Be careful where you learn from. This guy sounds like he uses ChatGPT as his primary source 😅
the problem with chinese civilization is that it's stagnant and lacks innovative drive
Yet another incorrect and fictitious video from Webb. The amount of contact between China and the west was so minimal during the periods Webb is referring to as to have negligible western input into Chinese cultural development and technological innovation. A very rambling and incoherent effort from Webb, based on no concrete evidence whatsoever! Videos like this make me very concerned about Webb's current state of mind!
well, he's a known pseudohistorian but i still watch him when i wanna have a laugh or something
@@Ivan-bg1jp Fair point. Webb does produce good material on factual and objective historical subject matter such as the development of electric cars in the last century. Unfortunately when he starts presenting his opinion as fact, that's when his credibility is seriously called into question.
I knew it! Gunpowder was actually invented by a Spaniard called Guy Fawkes … 😂
Chinese restaurants have stolen our recipes I will be asking for a discount next time I visit my local Fu Manchu
" ANYONE CAN COOK"
@@michaelfraser5723 refrain from using capitals it lowers the tone of my splendid comment
@@exsubmariner NO.
I know, it's a Foo Yung just a glorified omelette
@@user-mn3vt2sl1m ,"waiter my chicken is rubbery". ," Fank u wery much*
Simon, this is fascinating. Is it documented in any book? Your own, or that of other writers/historians?
They gave the world Pasta, for good or ill.
wrong. not true at all
Not really, pasta was invented by Etrurians, the myth that it came from China was invented by uneducated americans and eagerly adopted by han nationalists
Cultural exchange, sharing of ideas. Old. Who would have thought! Thanks for the heads up Simon
"... China would never have started using writing..." - This was tossed in nonchalantly right at the end and caused my ears to prick up. I am not aware of any hypothesis that Chinese writing derives from anywhere other than China. If anyone has any evidence to the contrary I'd be interested to see it. Or maybe you are claiming that the Chinese saw some writing from outside China and were inspired to invent their own writing system ? Either way, I'd be interested to know what sources you are drawing on here...
@@julesgosnell9791 Tocharian mummies. Celtic-swirl face tattoos, celtic animal artwork, swastika jewellery, tartan-pattern trousers, Caucasian faces, blonde and red hair. Perfectly-preserved “Western” faces.
Nordic-style longboat burials. Robert Sepehr’s channel has a whole documentary on it. “Chinese Pyramids & Samurai DNA”.
The Targaryens of Game of Thrones are based primarily on the Tocharians & the Chinese creational legend about “immortal god-kings with blue-eyes, pale skin, yellow beards, averaging 6ft6”, riding giant serpents down from the heavens”.
@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 I'm well aware of the Tocharian mummies in the Tarim basin - The earliest of which have been dated to 1800BCE. I'm not aware of any hypothesis or evidence that they had any form of writing that could have inspired the Chinese to develop their own. Textiles, yes, although there is evidence of the Chinese weaving silk that goes back to the Neolithic (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_silk) in 4000BCE - 2200 years earlier. So suggesting that the Tarim basin people introduced the Chinese to textiles is also a bit of a stretch.
@@julesgosnell9791 Neolithic Paganism was brought to the Far East, developed into what has been dubbed ‘Eco Mysticism’, which originated from ancient Celtic peoples & spawned the creation of what is now known as ‘Green Buddhism’. They brought their advanced culture with them.
John Lamb Lash’s “Not In His Image” goes into this briefly.
@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Buddhism arrived in China way after the Chinese started writing - not sure I see the relevance of this. I questioned Simon's assertation re the Chinese writing system and you just seem to be throwing a load of unrelated facts at me....
@@julesgosnell9791 What we now know as ‘Green Buddhism’ arrived way before what we now know as Buddhism. Buddhism emerged from within the teachings of Green Buddhism. You come across as being intentionally ignorant to the obvious conclusions one should draw from this data.
By the way, Yamnaya is a modern archaeological term, which just means burial mound, because our Yamnaya ancestors buried their dead in burial mounds.
The name they called themselves was Aryan.
@JoeBloggs-yo9ou Linguistic researchers have methods to determine the patterns by which a language has changed over millenia, and apply that backwards to find out how older, lost words sounded
Yes if we are accurate, the original word for Aryan that they used sounded something more like Aryos or Horyos according to linguistic research. Still the same meaning, "noble ones" or "free men".
... this stuff again. The only people who called themselves 'Aryans' were Iranianoids and some Indios. The word 'Ariyan' was first used amongst Europeans by Max Mueller, as a linguistic group, later the Nazis appropriated the term for their political goals. According to linguistic back-tracking, the word seems to be an innovation of the Iranic/Indic branch of the Indo-European language family, and doesn't have anything to do with the Yamnaya or Corded Ware people. Even nowadays some white folks refuse to let go of that word, because they have a sentimental attachment to it.
Yamnaya and Scythians were not from Europe!!- Europe didn't even exist in those times
@@gagibakija4825 Yes they were lol. Archaeologists know the exact migration paths. Yamnaya were from the region of eastern Europe, around where Ukraine is now. They were hwyte European peopIe.
Scythians were from Anatolia, which was popuIated entireIy by European peopIe back then.
"Europe didn't even exist in those times"
Its a continent... it has always existed.
@@morwickchesterham3875 This cope and historical revisionism again. The word Aryan literally exists in ALL European languages in some form close to it, with the same meaning xD
Arjoster in Old Norse for example, etc.
Fascinating, many thanks Simon. As to wheels, I do wonder why there were none in sub Saharan Africa? Am I wrong?
At these point, all that's left for you to say is that the Ancient Sumerians does NOT have oldest written language on the planet, because ahemm they actually got it from the Europeans, who were ahemm..... definitely NOT living in mud huts around 6000 years ago!😂
Venca writings in Bulgaria are the oldest.
@@ikengaspirit3063Mesopotamia is the most ancient civilization we know of. They depicted themselves as having blk skin and coiled hair. Who else on this planet fits that description?
@@erenjeager5290 Venca and Trypillia-Cucuteni are older, well the later more larger than older.
Sumerians also had statues that depicted them with blue eyes and sandstone light skin, before them Ubaidians depicted themselves with snake heads.
Surely it was explorers from Wakanda who taught everything to the Yamnaya. The BBC are preparing a series about it.
wakanda = haiti, no whites.
The Tarim Basin mummies! had fait hair and buried dressed in woolen cloth woven in Celtic checked patterns.
A very controversial point of view - you are very bold to argue for it.
Sir, I have never left any comment on your video, but I feel compelled to do so this time. What you said is totally UNTRUE. It is without doubt that Causasians did reach the north western part of China (today's Xinjiang) around three or four thousand years ago. These people were known as the Tocharians, and their language Agnean-Kuchean, a branch of the PIE language family.
However, these people never made it to the so-called Middle Land, or Mainland China in large numbers. Insteade, they established several kingdoms in the western desert and converted to Buddism around the 2nd century BC. Their interactions with the Han Dynasty were very well-documented in ancient Chinese manuscripts. At the height of their power, the Tocharians dominated part of the Silk Road and became an important intermediary in the trade between Europe and China for centuries until their decline and final disappearance that took place between 5th-10th century AD
True, in recent years tombs have been discovered in Mainland China where remains of Causasian-like people were found. In fact a lot of these remains were found in mass graves so much so some archaeologists suspected that they could have been killed as human sacfrice by the Shang people in ancient China (1500 BC-800 BC). They might have had inputs in the development of the Shang civilization but there was no conclusive evidence whatsoever that these people were the founder of Chinese civilization.
In fact the Chinese language belongs to the Sino-Tibetan language family rather than the Indo European family. If Causasians did "produce" the ancient Chinese culture like you claimed, then how do you explain the fundamental difference between the characters used by the Shang people in their oracle bone scripts and the earliest written Germanic language?
I wouldn't disagree with you that European and Central Asian people did, from a certain point of view, influence ancient Chinese civilization, for example, the Parthians and Greco-Bactrians, given their frequent mutual interactions through trade. But to say that ancient Chinese civilization is a "product of European intelligence and enterprise" is just as exaggerating and inaccurate as claiming that the 4 great inventions of ancient China brought back by Marco Polo directly triggered the Renaissance in Europe.
The only thing I can come up with in ancient Chinese civilzation that was truly and solely inspired by the Europeans is the early development of Chinese Buddist sculpture, which was heavily influenced by the ancient Greeks through the Gandhara region (roughly today's Afganistan) as a result of the conquest of Alexander the Great in the 3rd century BC.
I strongly suggest u do some more extensive reading before jumping to this outrageous conclusion.
Why did you bother to make this comment at all, let alone write it so politely and reasonably? If a man manages to escape legitimate archaeological and historical scholarship easily accessible in today’s Internet age, even the most surface-level of which would have debunked his “claims”, did you really think he would be receptive to reason and truth and proper epistemology? If he did, he wouldn’t be making these claims in the first place lmao.
Polite disagreement and appeals for him to correct his baseless claims are like trying to read to your dog a scientific paper on the health hazards of dog saliva to convince it to stop licking you: you are communicating on a wavelength to someone who fundamentally cannot/will not listen.
@@ZhangK71Hahaha that is one hell of a diss towards video man 😂
Yamnaya were burial mounds later ones containing (sometimes frozen) Iranian or Slav corpses. In England, these mounds are called barrows.
I have always said this, they can copy but not create, and they can't maintain.
Is this the European version of "we wuz kangz"???
Edit: This is pathetic. You Europeans have contributed plenty, no need to steal contributions from the Chinese.
Europeans have been We Wuzing way before AAs, why do you think Hoteps and every other Black We Wuzing is mainly from AAs(aka the blacks with the longest white cultural influence)?.
Calling the Yamnaya 'europeans' is hilarious, and clutching at straws. As someone else has said here, all ancient civilisations borrowed and adapted ideas and technologies from each other. Using the argument posited in this video, should I say that without China, Europeans would still be copying out books by hand, writing them on parchment or vellum, and be using spears, swords and bows to equip their armies?
As for the compass being used mostly for feng shui in its early years, that may be true. China was then and remains today principally a land power. Once the country began maritime exploration around the 10th century, the compass was used for navigation, as indeed it sometimes had been for long distance expeditions overland. When the compass came to Europe, one of the things it was first used for was the alignment of numerous churches in Denmark.
Incidentally, Chinese ships had sealed bulkheads during this period of exploration, which would take the 'treasure fleets' as far west as Africa a century before the Portuguese entered the Indian Ocean. European ships didn't gain such sealed bulkheads until the 19th century.
Did the Yamnaya come from the now Ukraine region or not?
@@georgehetty7857 Look at a map. The Yamnaya culture at its greatest extent extended from what is now Ukraine all the way east to what is now Kazakhstan. The migrations out of that large region of Eurasia would have been those on the Ukrainian side into Europe, and those on the Kazakh side to the east. The origins of the culture however would appear to be in the region north of the caucasus where the rivers Don and Volga are close together.
Well, the surviving mummies are distinctly European rather than Eurasian in appearance, though one or two had some Asiatic features. Also, the main type-sites of the Yamnaya are within the European half of the Eurasian Steppe.
@@ShanghaiRooster But the Ukrainian conflict is always referred to as “War on European Soil “?
@@georgehetty7857 You're being pedantic, George. Trying to slap modern geographic labels onto events that happened in prehistory is a nonsense. Genetic studies suggest the Yamnaya were an admixture of eastern hunter gatherers and caucasus hunter gatherers, so does that make them 'european' or 'asian'. They were neither because such divisions didn't exist at the time they lived. This culture was around circa 3300-2600 BC. In the Middle East the Sumerian civilisation was using wagons/chariots pulled by what look like wild asses, so were they the first to tame the horse? If so, where does that leave Simon's argument?