Great video! I just got my Retirement motorcycle, a 2019 Yamaha Super Tenere ES. Just ordered the SW-Motech trax-adv panniers in black for the bike. I already had a GIVI 52L top case. Really looking forward to getting the bags. Keep up the great videos
Awesome review and thanks for the same. I wish you had covered how the boxes looked inside, if they come with any liners along with top box. For the top I am looking at T-Ray 50L as it supports 2 helmets. BTW, the sound level went down in some section of the footage.
+Prabu Venkatraman Thanks! I did have a bit of an issue with the sound on this video. I think my mic batteries were low. I bumped it up, but may have missed a section...sorry. I will do another video in the spring when I do a test pack and cover the insides. The boxes do not come with liners, but they are available as an add-on. I have a number of dry sacks, so I will most likely use those, There are also organizers available for the lids, which I will most likely end up purchasing. Thanks again!
Looks like a great choice! I had a set similar on my previous bike and loved how roomy they were. I went with the factory hard bags on the Tenere and like them but they're no where near as roomy as the ones you have. One things for certain though, throwing a leg over the saddle with those bags on is going to take some effort! lol Even with the factory bags, I have to really do some acrobatics to get on and off that tall beast of a bike! Enjoyed the show Craig!
+Greg got away Yeah, being "average height" and "middle aged" I have to use more technique than flexibility to climb on and off the Tenere. Thanks for watching!
Continued. Forks. They are expensive, but BRIGHT and adjustable. Made in CA. Lastly, Tires. I have used Heidenau tires on my GSand GSA AND LOVE the mileage - 20,000 km. Good grip, on and off road. Don't go to AK without good off road tires. Other good choice is Michelin knobbies, but I have forgotten the name. Go to the Artic circle when you go there. I went there in the Yukon. Lastly, re luggage. I have Jesse luggage 45 and 40 L, and can get tent, sleeping bag and chair, along with clothes, PC and tools. I don't like anything on rear. Hence the tank bag helps.. Cheers
I was looking at the Heidenau tires, but ended going with the Mitas E07. Mainly because they do not have as much of a pronounced center ridge and I thought they would be better in the dirt. So far they are really great and do well on the tarmac as well. I have head really good things about the Heidenaus as well. I am probably carrying too much, but I cannot get all of my camping gear into the panniers, thus I have a set of top bags. Appreciate the suggestions!
Write a book. Play catch with grandkids. Ride alot. You've got me taking a 2nd look at the Tenere but who knows? Lookin at bikes is alot of fun on its own.
For another dry bag option, if in Canada (not sure if MEC is stateside) don't overlook the MEC Scully Duffle...nice and stackable, and built for extreme wet and abuse. Similar price I think, once you convert the dollar.
I bought the biggest Givi Outback luggage boxes top and side. And soft luggage. My wife likes to camp with me and barbecue so she can fill up her side of the bike with stuff quick. I have had no problem with the weight on road. I put the soft luggage on top of aluminum side cases. When off road I leave side aluminum cases at home
Excellent and very helpful videos. I apologize if you have already covered elsewhere. Could you tell me the skid plate and crash bars that you installed on your Super Tenere and if you are satisfied with them?
Have you noticed any negative effects of having two different size panniers in terms of weight and balance? I am considering getting the Givi Outback Trekker hard luggage cases for my Triumph Tiger XC and I am faced with this very issue. The distance from centerline is an inch and half (plus OR minus) whether you go for the same size or two different sizes on both sides. I presume I can always put lighter gear in the larger case and heavier gear in the smaller case.
+Vic Wiseman, I have not had any issues. They extend roughly the same distance from the bike, due to the exhaust on the left. There is only a .5 pound difference between the two bags, at least that is what I got when I put them on the scale. My buddy Peter has a Tiger with the same bags as I do (his large bag is on the left). His bags are a little wider than mine at 42 inches. Mine are 40 I believe. If you have questions, give Twisted Throttle a call, they are usually very helpful. Hope this helps.
Love your videos & blog Craig. Very thorough & articulate. I have a question about the SW Motech racks. Do know if they can be used with other manufacturers of boxes such as Touratech or Global Scout?
Thanks, appreciate the kind words. I know that there are several adapters available for GIVI, Shad and a couple others. But I don't think they make any for the Touratech bags or the Global Scout. I know Touratech uses a completely different mounting system. Sorry I can be of more help.
Great videos Craig, I just finish to put the SW-Motech rack in my Tenere and now I'm waiting for my silver Left and right side TRAX ADVENTURE Sidecase, Craig my order was for 45 liters left and right, Why are you recommended 37 liters for left side and 45 liters for right side ? Please let me know . Thanks again Craig, that's a really useful all your videos.
The 37 liter goes on the muffler side so the the bike is the same width on both sides. With the 45, it will be a little wider on the left. If you dont mind that, it is no big deal.
thanks for the update! nice system, how do you fasten the soft packs to the bike RokStraps? I like those bags, might work for a less equipped bike than the super ten.
The bags come with a built in strap system. Take a look at my video on the D38. It should be under reviews. The smaller D38 bags also come with straps that can be used to secure them to the hard cases. However I will probably purchase a backup set of some kind.
Did you look at Touratech at all? I know that they cost a lot more but I think they have various features like turning the top of the case into a table, which might be nice at a campsite.
+William xxx I did look at Touratec, they were my second choice. The pricing is roughly the same and SW-Motec does have the table and other accessories available as well. What sold me on the SW-Motec racks was two things, one I was able to see the bags and racks in person at Twisted Throttle's factory store and I really liked the quick-release rack system. I did not see that available for the Touratec. I saw quick-release for the bags but the racks were hard bolted to the frame and I did not find an alternative. Maybe there is one and I just did not see it.
+Craig Ripley (Living Off The Slab) Thanks for the ongoing videos, they are helping me prepare for the purchase of my future Tenere this coming Spring.
Now that you have gone on your Alaska trip. How was the luggage? Also, an probably the bigger question I have, how well has the quick release system worked? I had the GIVI Outback with their quick release system and when it fell over the cases were always loose from that point on. Would you mind giving my your experience with this system. I am about to buy a 2017 Tenere and will need bags for traveling. Thanks.
So far, I have had no issues with the SW Motech cases or the racks. The quick release system works very well, they are easy to get on and off. I did this many times while on the Alaska trip, taking the bags into hotel rooms (it is easier than pulling out individual items). I have not dropped my bike, so I cannot comment personally, however Peter has dropped his bike several times, and the bags did go some minor damage. The racks were fine and as far as I know, they still go on and off fine. The bags did get a bit bent, not in the outer corners--that hit--but in the inside corner. I guess they pushed up against the racks and got dented. He bang them back out and they are fine as far as I know. I would have no hesitation buying the same bags and racks again. Hope this helps.
Thanks Craig that's a really useful video; I'm thinking of these for my bike but am wondering - have you tried them with a pillion? Do they affect pillion comfort in any way? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Unfortunately, I have not used them with a pillion. I have the bike set up with a luggage platform and I have removed the pillion seat. For two up riding I use my Victory. Sorry I could not offer any guidance.
+andfish2112 Thanks! Unfortunately a full face helmet will not fit in the 45L bag. If yo want to lock up your helmet you will have to add the top case. For now I am not going to do that, but who know somewhere down the line. I will get a helmet lock of some kind though.
I did consider them, but after looking at them and reading about some of the issues with the locks that people have had, I decided I wanted aluminum panniers.
SmokyOwl I am sure there are a few left who do. if you have the skill, time and desire to build your own racks and boxes that is great; but I think most of us do not have those skills. There are already companies like SM Motech that make great bags, so we leverage their expertise. Do you make your own bags?
I definitely would if I could weld. I may rivet something together, there is a nice metal shop in town I know of. If it comes to it tho I might just buy a couple of military ammo cases but I'm not a fan of that option. Right now I'm researching clever engineering in storebought panniers and hopefully integrate some features. Elspeth Beard kinda inspired me. www.motorcyclistonline.com/elspeth-beard-one-early-globetrotters
There is an interview with Elspeth Beard on adventure rider radio. Very interesting lady. www.adventureriderradio.com/adventure-rider-radio-episodes/2016/9/1/elspeth-beard-first-british-woman-to-motorcycle-around-the-world?rq=els Have fun working on the bags. Let us know how they turn out.
love your videos...I think the Tenere is my next bike as well. Any concerns for the strength of the 1/4 turn fasteners for the rack? my Road King has 1/4 turns for the bags, but some folks are leary of them, but that's for Harleys. Thoughts?
+lkazanov I guess the honest answer is, I don't know... So far just riding and going over bumps etc... they are fine and remain tight and secure. I do have my concerns about how they might hold up in a drop, but I guess I will not know that until it happens...and it will. My plan is to get a set of bolts to replace the 1/4 turn fasteners if the need arises. I hope that it does not, but want to be prepared.
You did what I did when it came to bags. The DrySpec bags are just outstanding. I ride an FJR1300 and the side hard bags are great. I wanted the DrySpec bag because it is waterproof and holds a lot of stuff. Great for touring.
Nice video Craig. I too have been considering the Super Tenere for many of the same reasons you listed and the SW-Motech boxes. I'm looking forward to more videos on you Yamaha.
Manual says you can load 10 kg per pannier. Does this include the pannier weight or not? Because the pannier weights 5 kg per se, that would give you only 5 kg more to load? Or can no load 10 kg inside the pannier? Thank you.
I believe that is 10kg inside each pannier. I dont really pay attention to that. My bags generally weigh around 25 pounds each (11kg) bags and stuff inside.
Hi Craig: I am SO loving your segments on the Super Tenere'! I'm about to buy my second one. (I traded my first on a new Harley Heritage.....). I am DYING to see you do a segment on your first trip. You'll be doing a segment on SEATS...and that will be very interesting! I am leaning toward Touratech's ZEGA PRO panniers. I just like the way that they're built and look. One thing that I like about yours, however, is how fast you can remove the racks themselves. I had never seen that before. Pretty neat. You may remember me commenting on this before, but you coming off a Vision....with, without a doubt THE best stock seat there is.....and parking your butt on an adventure bike seat......IS going to VERY, VERY interesting! RUSSELL "all day" seats are what you are used to, but you have to send them a seat pan for them to build it on. (PITA!) Rick Mayer did the same, and made amazing seats. So that leaves Corbin or the interesting new line from SADDLEMEN seats with the GEL and the space down the middle to create more "flex" . I can't wait.....for YOU to search out the seats! Good Luck! (Oh...and did I mention that it's 82 degrees in the Everglades today? Not sure it I did!)
+Ray Jensen Well thanks for the weather update...it is 35 here and we are expecting flurries tonight...LOL. Yes, I remember you mentioning the seat. We'll see, I have been about 170 miles on it so far, and while no where near as good as the Vision, I was ok. I would imaging that you are correct, at some point I will be changing it. I did look at the Touratec seats and while expensive, I like the idea of it being breathable. Seats are tough, because they are so expensive and you want to try them first...well see. The Touratec bags are nice, but I really liked the quick-release racks and the fact that I could put my hands on them before buying. Both are good choices.
Yes it does. I am trying to remember the exact width (my bags are off right now), I think it is 40 or 42. I remember that it was a couple of inches less than Peter's Triumph.
Hi Craig; i always appreciate your videos; when you decided to purchase your SW-Motech hard side cases, did you compared them with the Givi Trekker Outback & Givi Trekker Dolomiti ? if yes, please share your opinions about them; thanks; cheers from Montreal.
I did not get to personally see all of them, but did look at a number on line. I ended going with the SW Motech because I liked the quick release brackets and the solid aluminum construction of the bags. They are also listed as 100% waterproof and so far that has been true. The Givi Outback is water resistant. Will it work in most cases, sure, but I wanted the more robust bag, just in case. At least at the time I was buying the SW Motech ADV bags had more accessory options as well. Hope this helps.
They were very easy to install and are simply to put on and off. The only complaint is that the latches cannot be secured without locking them, a minor inconvenience.
I've had the SW Motech system with Givi hard cases on my ZZR1200 since 2007. The system has worked great except that the paint came off and it has major rust. I ride in all weather and they just aren't up to the task. Looking at your newer system, it doesn't appear that they have improved it. Be interesting to see how yours holds up in time.
Even though they are less expensive that the SW Motech or other brands, I was just not happy with the quality of the bags or locking mechanisms. Thanks for asking!
I just checked Twisted Throttle and it looks like Givi makes a rack and bags for the x300. Not metal bags, but that may not be bad for a lighter bike. You should also check out Giant Loop. Soft bags might be a option.
Moose racing is a little less for the same quality.. I have the sw motech rack...looking at the givi 58 L back trunk /rack...and the moose racing adventure side pannier..
There are a lot of good bag choices out there. My suggestion is to make sure you know what you are buying. Some are welded like the Trax Adventure bags, and others riveted. Riveted is typically cheaper and will work in most situations, however they generally are not 100% waterproof (you may need a waterproof liner). Just make sure the bag is going to work for your riding style. For me, given that I was only going to buy them once, I opted for the welded bags.
@@LivingOffTheSlab I do have a real nice set of British ammo cans..they r tuff as heck..welded and definitely waterproof..but they r ammo cans..would be great on my klr ..but don't have that anymore.. Have the KTM smr 950..trying to turn it into an adventure bike ..fit the 8 gallon after market safari tank ...skid plate ..etc...ride safe stay well🍻
@@LivingOffTheSlab greetings and salutations...I just got the moose racing adventure panniers..and they r welded on the inside along with rivets..which is good cause ..my fried decided to go bushwacking and I took out a small tree..and small dent ..they held up..surprisingly..they cost 349$ ..got them for 160$..with the inside 25$ liner for free....iam happy with them so far..stay well and ride safe..👍..Don from upstate N.Y
Any aftermarket exhaust is going to mount to the stock brackets, so I doubt it would get you any more space on that side. On top of that, the side racks are made to accommodate the stock exhaust. To get to 45s on and have them evenly displaced on both sides you would need to have a custom setup. On the other hand, you could get two 45s and just put them on. They would be wider on the left, but if don't care, it would work.
Sometimes the aftermarket pipes sit lower. I'll have to do some searching. Of all the Adventure bikes I look at, the S10 still comes out on top. The BMW had no problems letting me test ride a GS for an hour. Wonderful bike. The metric bike dealers say no test rides.
Brad, I'm just curious. What's wrong with the Yamaha bags? It seems like a lot of ADV riders go with after market panniers. What makes these boxes so much better?
Great job on the review. I have the same boxes you have on my 650 vstrom. I thought a soft top instead of the hard box might work out well for me. Twisted Throttle is fun to work with. Keep it up.
good to see you posting. I thought you fell off the face of the earth. Excited for when you start sharing your adventures.
No I am still here. Just took some time off during the holidays.
Great video!
I just got my Retirement motorcycle, a 2019 Yamaha Super Tenere ES. Just ordered the SW-Motech trax-adv panniers in black for the bike. I already had a GIVI 52L top case. Really looking forward to getting the bags. Keep up the great videos
Thank you! The Tenere is a great bike, enjoy!
Awesome review and thanks for the same. I wish you had covered how the boxes looked inside, if they come with any liners along with top box. For the top I am looking at T-Ray 50L as it supports 2 helmets. BTW, the sound level went down in some section of the footage.
+Prabu Venkatraman Thanks! I did have a bit of an issue with the sound on this video. I think my mic batteries were low. I bumped it up, but may have missed a section...sorry. I will do another video in the spring when I do a test pack and cover the insides. The boxes do not come with liners, but they are available as an add-on. I have a number of dry sacks, so I will most likely use those, There are also organizers available for the lids, which I will most likely end up purchasing. Thanks again!
Looks like a great choice! I had a set similar on my previous bike and loved how roomy they were. I went with the factory hard bags on the Tenere and like them but they're no where near as roomy as the ones you have. One things for certain though, throwing a leg over the saddle with those bags on is going to take some effort! lol Even with the factory bags, I have to really do some acrobatics to get on and off that tall beast of a bike! Enjoyed the show Craig!
+Greg got away Yeah, being "average height" and "middle aged" I have to use more technique than flexibility to climb on and off the Tenere. Thanks for watching!
Continued. Forks. They are expensive, but BRIGHT and adjustable. Made in CA.
Lastly, Tires. I have used Heidenau tires on my GSand GSA AND LOVE the mileage - 20,000 km. Good grip, on and off road. Don't go to AK without good off road tires. Other good choice is Michelin knobbies, but I have forgotten the name. Go to the Artic circle when you go there. I went there in the Yukon.
Lastly, re luggage. I have Jesse luggage 45 and 40 L, and can get tent, sleeping bag and chair, along with clothes, PC and tools. I don't like anything on rear. Hence the tank bag helps.. Cheers
I was looking at the Heidenau tires, but ended going with the Mitas E07. Mainly because they do not have as much of a pronounced center ridge and I thought they would be better in the dirt. So far they are really great and do well on the tarmac as well. I have head really good things about the Heidenaus as well. I am probably carrying too much, but I cannot get all of my camping gear into the panniers, thus I have a set of top bags. Appreciate the suggestions!
Enjoy the videos Craig. I'm about a year from retirement (again) and I get what you say about not taking it with you. Ride safe.
Yeah, as I like to say...Do it now! You never know what tomorrow with bring. Do you have any plans for retirement?
Write a book. Play catch with grandkids. Ride alot. You've got me taking a 2nd look at the Tenere but who knows? Lookin at bikes is alot of fun on its own.
Sounds like a great plan. Yes, looking at bikes is fun. There are so many I would own if I had a bigger garage...and more money.
For another dry bag option, if in Canada (not sure if MEC is stateside) don't overlook the MEC Scully Duffle...nice and stackable, and built for extreme wet and abuse. Similar price I think, once you convert the dollar.
I will have to take a look. Thanks!
I bought the biggest Givi Outback luggage boxes top and side. And soft luggage. My wife likes to camp with me and barbecue so she can fill up her side of the bike with stuff quick. I have had no problem with the weight on road. I put the soft luggage on top of aluminum side cases. When off road I leave side aluminum cases at home
Thanks for input!
Thank you for your great videos!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Excellent and very helpful videos. I apologize if you have already covered elsewhere. Could you tell me the skid plate and crash bars that you installed on your Super Tenere and if you are satisfied with them?
I used the AltRider stuff. Well made and works well.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks for the info.
Have you noticed any negative effects of having two different size panniers in terms of weight and balance? I am considering getting the Givi Outback Trekker hard luggage cases for my Triumph Tiger XC and I am faced with this very issue. The distance from centerline is an inch and half (plus OR minus) whether you go for the same size or two different sizes on both sides. I presume I can always put lighter gear in the larger case and heavier gear in the smaller case.
+Vic Wiseman, I have not had any issues. They extend roughly the same distance from the bike, due to the exhaust on the left. There is only a .5 pound difference between the two bags, at least that is what I got when I put them on the scale. My buddy Peter has a Tiger with the same bags as I do (his large bag is on the left). His bags are a little wider than mine at 42 inches. Mine are 40 I believe. If you have questions, give Twisted Throttle a call, they are usually very helpful. Hope this helps.
Love your videos & blog Craig. Very thorough & articulate. I have a question about the SW Motech racks. Do know if they can be used with other manufacturers of boxes such as Touratech or Global Scout?
Thanks, appreciate the kind words. I know that there are several adapters available for GIVI, Shad and a couple others. But I don't think they make any for the Touratech bags or the Global Scout. I know Touratech uses a completely different mounting system. Sorry I can be of more help.
Great videos Craig, I just finish to put the SW-Motech rack in my Tenere and now I'm waiting for my silver Left and right side TRAX ADVENTURE Sidecase, Craig my order was for 45 liters left and right, Why are you recommended 37 liters for left side and 45 liters for right side ? Please let me know . Thanks again Craig, that's a really useful all your videos.
The 37 liter goes on the muffler side so the the bike is the same width on both sides. With the 45, it will be a little wider on the left. If you dont mind that, it is no big deal.
thanks for the update! nice system, how do you fasten the soft packs to the bike RokStraps? I like those bags, might work for a less equipped bike than the super ten.
The bags come with a built in strap system. Take a look at my video on the D38. It should be under reviews. The smaller D38 bags also come with straps that can be used to secure them to the hard cases. However I will probably purchase a backup set of some kind.
Did you look at Touratech at all? I know that they cost a lot more but I think they have various features like turning the top of the case into a table, which might be nice at a campsite.
+William xxx I did look at Touratec, they were my second choice. The pricing is roughly the same and SW-Motec does have the table and other accessories available as well. What sold me on the SW-Motec racks was two things, one I was able to see the bags and racks in person at Twisted Throttle's factory store and I really liked the quick-release rack system. I did not see that available for the Touratec. I saw quick-release for the bags but the racks were hard bolted to the frame and I did not find an alternative. Maybe there is one and I just did not see it.
+Craig Ripley (Living Off The Slab) Thanks for the ongoing videos, they are helping me prepare for the purchase of my future Tenere this coming Spring.
+William xxx My pleasure. Glad to be of help.
Now that you have gone on your Alaska trip. How was the luggage? Also, an probably the bigger question I have, how well has the quick release system worked? I had the GIVI Outback with their quick release system and when it fell over the cases were always loose from that point on. Would you mind giving my your experience with this system. I am about to buy a 2017 Tenere and will need bags for traveling. Thanks.
So far, I have had no issues with the SW Motech cases or the racks. The quick release system works very well, they are easy to get on and off. I did this many times while on the Alaska trip, taking the bags into hotel rooms (it is easier than pulling out individual items). I have not dropped my bike, so I cannot comment personally, however Peter has dropped his bike several times, and the bags did go some minor damage. The racks were fine and as far as I know, they still go on and off fine. The bags did get a bit bent, not in the outer corners--that hit--but in the inside corner. I guess they pushed up against the racks and got dented. He bang them back out and they are fine as far as I know. I would have no hesitation buying the same bags and racks again. Hope this helps.
Great vid, thanks for sharing:-)
+Linty690R Your welcome, thanks for watching.
Thanks Craig that's a really useful video; I'm thinking of these for my bike but am wondering - have you tried them with a pillion? Do they affect pillion comfort in any way? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Unfortunately, I have not used them with a pillion. I have the bike set up with a luggage platform and I have removed the pillion seat. For two up riding I use my Victory. Sorry I could not offer any guidance.
thank you for the great video it abvious you put a lot of thought into them.I was wondering if a full face helmet will fit in the 45l bag?
+andfish2112 Thanks! Unfortunately a full face helmet will not fit in the 45L bag. If yo want to lock up your helmet you will have to add the top case. For now I am not going to do that, but who know somewhere down the line. I will get a helmet lock of some kind though.
Will 37L case fit a full size helmet? thanks
The 37, no. Have never tried the 45 either.
Do you hear any rattles on a rough road from those panniers ?
Not that I have noticed.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks , i need to look at those more thoroughly .
20 seconds in and i gotta run... holy balls that mic
Thanks!
Craig, i'm sure you considered the yamaha luggage didn't you?
I did consider them, but after looking at them and reading about some of the issues with the locks that people have had, I decided I wanted aluminum panniers.
these would be great on my TDM 850
Whatever happened to people making their own panniers? Do people still do that?
SmokyOwl I am sure there are a few left who do. if you have the skill, time and desire to build your own racks and boxes that is great; but I think most of us do not have those skills. There are already companies like SM Motech that make great bags, so we leverage their expertise. Do you make your own bags?
I definitely would if I could weld. I may rivet something together, there is a nice metal shop in town I know of. If it comes to it tho I might just buy a couple of military ammo cases but I'm not a fan of that option. Right now I'm researching clever engineering in storebought panniers and hopefully integrate some features. Elspeth Beard kinda inspired me.
www.motorcyclistonline.com/elspeth-beard-one-early-globetrotters
There is an interview with Elspeth Beard on adventure rider radio. Very interesting lady. www.adventureriderradio.com/adventure-rider-radio-episodes/2016/9/1/elspeth-beard-first-british-woman-to-motorcycle-around-the-world?rq=els
Have fun working on the bags. Let us know how they turn out.
I know many riders need boxes to carry stuff but they sure wreck the style and appearance of a bike.
I can only speak for myself in saying that these kind of bikes are made for functional not form. Style and looks is just not that important. Thanks!
love your videos...I think the Tenere is my next bike as well. Any concerns for the strength of the 1/4 turn fasteners for the rack? my Road King has 1/4 turns for the bags, but some folks are leary of them, but that's for Harleys. Thoughts?
+lkazanov I guess the honest answer is, I don't know... So far just riding and going over bumps etc... they are fine and remain tight and secure. I do have my concerns about how they might hold up in a drop, but I guess I will not know that until it happens...and it will. My plan is to get a set of bolts to replace the 1/4 turn fasteners if the need arises. I hope that it does not, but want to be prepared.
You did what I did when it came to bags. The DrySpec bags are just outstanding. I ride an FJR1300 and the side hard bags are great. I wanted the DrySpec bag because it is waterproof and holds a lot of stuff. Great for touring.
The Dry Specs are great. One of the best investments in have made.
Nice video Craig. I too have been considering the Super Tenere for many of the same reasons you listed and the SW-Motech boxes. I'm looking forward to more videos on you Yamaha.
+Tim2Wheels Thanks TIm, I appreciate the kind words, especially from a fellow UA-camr. I will have to get some lighting tips from you. Ride Safe!
Manual says you can load 10 kg per pannier. Does this include the pannier weight or not?
Because the pannier weights 5 kg per se, that would give you only 5 kg more to load? Or can no load 10 kg inside the pannier? Thank you.
I believe that is 10kg inside each pannier. I dont really pay attention to that. My bags generally weigh around 25 pounds each (11kg) bags and stuff inside.
Hi Craig: I am SO loving your segments on the Super Tenere'! I'm about to buy my second one. (I traded my first on a new Harley Heritage.....). I am DYING to see you do a segment on your first trip. You'll be doing a segment on SEATS...and that will be very interesting! I am leaning toward Touratech's ZEGA PRO panniers. I just like the way that they're built and look. One thing that I like about yours, however, is how fast you can remove the racks themselves. I had never seen that before. Pretty neat. You may remember me commenting on this before, but you coming off a Vision....with, without a doubt THE best stock seat there is.....and parking your butt on an adventure bike seat......IS going to VERY, VERY interesting! RUSSELL "all day" seats are what you are used to, but you have to send them a seat pan for them to build it on. (PITA!) Rick Mayer did the same, and made amazing seats. So that leaves Corbin or the interesting new line from SADDLEMEN seats with the GEL and the space down the middle to create more "flex" . I can't wait.....for YOU to search out the seats! Good Luck! (Oh...and did I mention that it's 82 degrees in the Everglades today? Not sure it I did!)
+Ray Jensen Well thanks for the weather update...it is 35 here and we are expecting flurries tonight...LOL. Yes, I remember you mentioning the seat. We'll see, I have been about 170 miles on it so far, and while no where near as good as the Vision, I was ok. I would imaging that you are correct, at some point I will be changing it. I did look at the Touratec seats and while expensive, I like the idea of it being breathable. Seats are tough, because they are so expensive and you want to try them first...well see. The Touratec bags are nice, but I really liked the quick-release racks and the fact that I could put my hands on them before buying. Both are good choices.
Hi Craig. Did adding the Trax-Adventure cases increase the overall width of your S10? If so, how much? Thanks in advance.
Yes it does. I am trying to remember the exact width (my bags are off right now), I think it is 40 or 42. I remember that it was a couple of inches less than Peter's Triumph.
Just got my Trax Adventures installed. Your video helped me to decide on the SW brand. Thanks Craig, keep the videos coming!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Hi Craig; i always appreciate your videos; when you decided to purchase your SW-Motech hard side cases, did you compared them with the Givi Trekker Outback & Givi Trekker Dolomiti ? if yes, please share your opinions about them; thanks; cheers from Montreal.
I did not get to personally see all of them, but did look at a number on line. I ended going with the SW Motech because I liked the quick release brackets and the solid aluminum construction of the bags. They are also listed as 100% waterproof and so far that has been true. The Givi Outback is water resistant. Will it work in most cases, sure, but I wanted the more robust bag, just in case. At least at the time I was buying the SW Motech ADV bags had more accessory options as well. Hope this helps.
Living Off The Slab : thanks for reply & happy new year
How easy/difficult was it to mount the rack for the hard bags?
They were very easy to install and are simply to put on and off. The only complaint is that the latches cannot be secured without locking them, a minor inconvenience.
I've had the SW Motech system with Givi hard cases on my ZZR1200 since 2007. The system has worked great except that the paint came off and it has major rust. I ride in all weather and they just aren't up to the task. Looking at your newer system, it doesn't appear that they have improved it. Be interesting to see how yours holds up in time.
So far so good. I have no drops on the racks or bags, so no chipped paint at this point. Thanks!
can you fit a full face helmet on the 37?
No a full face helmet will not go in either case.
good day why did you not go with the yamaha hard bags ? ride safe
Even though they are less expensive that the SW Motech or other brands, I was just not happy with the quality of the bags or locking mechanisms. Thanks for asking!
id pay it if I could put them on a versys x300! but I don't think they make the rack for the x300 witch is saddining to me
I just checked Twisted Throttle and it looks like Givi makes a rack and bags for the x300. Not metal bags, but that may not be bad for a lighter bike. You should also check out Giant Loop. Soft bags might be a option.
@@LivingOffTheSlab the givi does look nice n black
Some reviews not good though. Thanks
Moose racing is a little less for the same quality.. I have the sw motech rack...looking at the givi 58 L back trunk /rack...and the moose racing adventure side pannier..
There are a lot of good bag choices out there. My suggestion is to make sure you know what you are buying. Some are welded like the Trax Adventure bags, and others riveted. Riveted is typically cheaper and will work in most situations, however they generally are not 100% waterproof (you may need a waterproof liner). Just make sure the bag is going to work for your riding style. For me, given that I was only going to buy them once, I opted for the welded bags.
@@LivingOffTheSlab I do have a real nice set of British ammo cans..they r tuff as heck..welded and definitely waterproof..but they r ammo cans..would be great on my klr ..but don't have that anymore.. Have the KTM smr 950..trying to turn it into an adventure bike ..fit the 8 gallon after market safari tank ...skid plate ..etc...ride safe stay well🍻
@@LivingOffTheSlab greetings and salutations...I just got the moose racing adventure panniers..and they r welded on the inside along with rivets..which is good cause ..my fried decided to go bushwacking and I took out a small tree..and small dent ..they held up..surprisingly..they cost 349$ ..got them for 160$..with the inside 25$ liner for free....iam happy with them so far..stay well and ride safe..👍..Don from upstate N.Y
@@banditleu1342 , Awesome, glad you found something that works for you. I agree that the welding is important.
Is it possible to install an aftermarket exhaust and get the big case for both sides?
Any aftermarket exhaust is going to mount to the stock brackets, so I doubt it would get you any more space on that side. On top of that, the side racks are made to accommodate the stock exhaust. To get to 45s on and have them evenly displaced on both sides you would need to have a custom setup. On the other hand, you could get two 45s and just put them on. They would be wider on the left, but if don't care, it would work.
Sometimes the aftermarket pipes sit lower. I'll have to do some searching.
Of all the Adventure bikes I look at, the S10 still comes out on top.
The BMW had no problems letting me test ride a GS for an hour. Wonderful bike. The metric bike dealers say no test rides.
Good information. I'm unhappy with the stock Yamaha bags. Been thinking about replacing them.
+Brad Taylor I just did a full day in the rain, with no leaks...happy so far. Wish I could say the same for my boots....ugg.
old fashioned mink oil and Red Wings. I know, no ankle brace. But my feet never get wet.
+Brad Taylor I have a pair waterproof work boots that I wear often and use mink oil. Works great. Thanks!
Brad, I'm just curious. What's wrong with the Yamaha bags? It seems like a lot of ADV riders go with after market panniers. What makes these boxes so much better?
Are those making rattles after a couple thousands miles ?
No...12,000 miles to Alaska and back and they work just fine.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks , i guess those will be my next purchase , i like the style !
Great job on the review. I have the same boxes you have on my 650 vstrom. I thought a soft top instead of the hard box might work out well for me. Twisted Throttle is fun to work with. Keep it up.
The Twisted Throttle folks are great, always very helpful. They are riders themselves. Ride Safe!
lycka till !!!!
+Karl-Erik Sprimont Thanks!
Got the givi outback boxes for my bike and I thought the 1100 was expensive. Been wanting the snow to go too.
We ride motorcycles...everything is expensive. Hurry up spring!
I'm hesitating between the Givi and SW Motech... Don't know what to choose!
@@G91YS , I think they are both nice bags. I choose the SW Motech and have been happy with them
@@G91YS the choice was easy for me motec doesn't make any for my bike so givi was next option.
At less motech dosent make the mounts and installation kits for mine