There should be some big changes to matchmaking if that’s possible but I also think that people who spam ping thanks should be stopped from playing for a short amount of time, maybe they will stop playing entirely for that day, or wait out the timer, it could definitely help calm them down and be ready to play another match if they really want to keep going
Avoid team mate button with a list of atleast 200 people. I mean it. There are so many griefers/trolls in my games which makes me rage sometimes so hard i have to take a break from playing. And that's a shame because i love this game. A moba AND pkmn game?! Sign me up! I was so hyped when this game was announced and played a lot when it came out. Had tons of fun with my unite starter talonflame (pls buff my bird). Also get rid of surrender vote as much needed i totally agree with you on every point u said.
As you were talking about the pings I had the idea of setting a maximum of 10-20 pings over the course of the entire match, and after that you get no more messages Also I think they need to actually filter the voice comm reports, I have turned on my voice chat in the last 20 seconds of the game and say “that was a great game team, we got ahead early and kept our compose through that final fight, enjoyed playing with you all” and then got reported, like there needs to be something that actually checks for negativity
Their should be a system like if u call center first while selecting Pokemon it gets locked for other teammates for like 1 min or 45 sec so that early game jungle stealing can be avoided
I feel like assassin Dave or inder made a video about skipping it to secure the middle Pokemon then to go back and get it but I feel like it was during the exp glitch thing where only Pokemon who didn't evolve were doing good
what's even more ridiculous is that the same players who'd spam "thanks" and "check it out" end up being the ones who thumb up everyone at the end of the game when we end up turning the match around
I really hope that being able to report people for spam at some point. If you do more than 20 pings each match, you're probably a tilted spammer, should be banned from playing with regulars and forced to play with other spammers.
@@xlilraphx Not after playing LoL for years, quitting the game for how toxic it is back in 2016 and now being 30+ and playing this for fun I just use it a single time when someone is throwing a ranked game, if I'm starting to tilt, I just stop and play a singleplayer
Sometimes ill do it just once to get a team to play harder or to see how many have already given up just to see how hard its gonna be. Usually im to busy just trying to make it to pay attention. An didnt notice lol thats why those are constantly hitting check it out thats happened to me a lot in some games. I judt was trying to figure out why tgey kept hitting it. Lol i just to busy ti notice most the time 😅
Bruh there's always someone who spams "Thanks!" And it's always someone who has done nothing low damage low everything like they're the one doing something
or when they get mad that you secure a contested piece of farm when they are a mew whose moves are on cooldown againt a ninetails, obviously you're not gonna get it and ninetails is gonna steal it from us, so im gonna secure it but i guess they rather the enemy have it.
Im in masters (1650 right now) and I played for about an hour last night and lost every....single...match...due to tilted players. I literally saw a Charmander steal a jungle minion from a Machop (annoying but whatever right?) and the Machop went back to base...sat there and spammed thanks the whole rest of the game. It's a mess at the moment.
That's what I've been waiting for ever since the game released. An actual block list that actually prevents certain players (like the spammers and the little kids) from being matched up with you would solve more than half of this game's matchmaking problem.
I’m not sure about this but can you ban certain switch accounts via friend profiles? Like in smash you can friend or block online opponents and you won’t see those opponents ingame after blocking. I don’t know if unite has the same connectivity but is that possible?
It's kinda sad for those players that are actually thankful for their teammates' efforts, only for the other teammates thinking that they're being sarcastic 😔 Might as well remove the "thanks" and the other messages that most players are spamming, so there won't be any harm
It is a shame. I main support and I felt so validated when I got paired up with a twitch streamer so my friends and I quickly jumped into her stream so we could listen to her while we were a team. At one point she ans her friend were running from an enemy cuz they were almost dead and she questioned why I was zig zagging behind them. Her: "Blissey why are you doing that, RUN" Her friend: "Wait, it's taking all the basic attacks!" "Blissey you are literally a life saver!" She then friended me after the match
Why remove it? If you are that thin skinned, don't play online video games. Just give people the option to mute pings if they want but keep the "thanks" ping, so people who want it, can have it.
In terms of the surrender vote, once there's 2 red (or a garunteed non-surrender) it should just vanish. Also, the person who surrendered previously should have a longer cooldown on the nest surrender. 1:30 minutes between surrenders? force them (the players who will generally spam surrenders) wait longer, 2:30~3:00 min.
maybe even make it so you can only initiate a surrender vote once a game(per person). I can’t see any reason why you would need more than one anyway because the only time you should ever surrender is after losing rayquaza and with no way to come back imo
Mobile players suffer a bit more from the constant surrender vote screen warning when we use the screen to switch moves, see the status of every ally, etc. Not once I accidentally clicked a surrender vote when trying to switch Mew’s moveset cause I actually have to CLICK the screen to do so
@@m1dn1ghtqt I won't even tell you how many times as a Clefable I happened to choose Draining kiss over Moonlight when I tried to use the x-speed. I felt useless all match
I think its interesting that Spragles has been being more vocal negatively lately. Always seen him as a positive role model, and nothing ever got him down. Not that its a bad thing, a lot of this needs to be said.
Literally last night, the opposing team surrendered WHILE WINNING! My team technically won while being in a 100+ point deficit It was before the final 2:00 min too!
We definitely need to be able to mute pings and the last thing these people need is rank protection tbh. I think as a warning instead of -10 it should be -20 thrn there’s games certain games that sense’s malicious play in the game and auto bans if ignored too many times I think this a good way to scare people into playing the game no matter how upset they feel.
They should just make it so the first 3 pings every match are free while the rest cost 1 fair point each. You get 5 back every match or something so you can use up to 8 if you play normally. If you want to spam or go afk you go into the negative until you fall below 80
@@solarium4884 Unfortunately that'd only work if they also adjusted fair play points to actually mean something, as it stands right now its pretty much this game's swear jar. What they could do is increase the reward to 300 a day making every point worth 1 coin. That way well mannered players are rewarded with effectively double weekly coins, and the truly tilted become the guy/gal shoving bills into the jar.
I agree with you Spragels. Sadly it feels whenever a popular UA-camr makes a video on this subject the toxicity levels and pings go up for a few days. We need to be able to mute pings period. And after you vote the box needs to minimize.
Honestly I'm one of those players that uses ''thanks'' when someone helps me or we do a really good push and I'm really happy (y'know, the intended purpose) and because of this people I'm always afraid that my team might take it the wrong way. This needs to stop
If it's possible, they should just make the surrender button only be available when Rayquaza is defeated But I guess just removing the surrender button completely is probably the better solution. I mean, it's just a 10 minute match for each game.
I disagree. I don't wanna suffer another minute just to watch the enemy team score hundo burgers. If you lose the Rayquaza fight, or are clearly losing because of trolling, just surrender. 99.9% of the time, you can't come back.
one time i was trying to steal ray suddenly a surrender vote popped up and it was at the rayquaza hp bar,so i wasn't able to steal it was so frustrating
2 major things that would mostly solve this problem: - a block list that actually works to prevent players like these from being matched with you in the future - more players having map awareness or just looking at the map in general to see where their teammates are or what mobs have spawned
I do wonder how a block list works.... cuz if so people would just block people who are using op pokemon to not see them in their game, or that invade greedent they do not want to see, maybe they had a match with a new player and they hate that, out of their queue, its just gonna skyrocket everyone's queues cuz now they will have to check every single person that they do not have someone in the match avoided. Like imagine being a sableye main, and every oppponents decides to block you because they do not want to face it, well ur queue times are skyrocketing
The sad thing is when you actually try to be helpful with pings calls and people interprets it as you being annoying/tilted. Or pinging a specific place before an objective spawns in there a couple times before they appear. I would pay for situational commands like "Rayquaza is spawning in X seconds be careful". But I mean, removing them altogether would not be a bad call given they're mostly ignored for one reason or another...
I'm torn because whenever I get a Thanks enjoyer on my team half of me wants to see us pull through while they run into the enemy base and feed, but on the other hand the last thing I want to do is help hand them a free win.
Im glad you've been more vocal with this lately cause it's getting very tiring that when someone calls out players like this then you're "toxic" or "negative" when it effects everyone when playing the game . From new, to casual, to experts and not just the ones that do play this game as a job. And things shouldn't be sugar coated for people to understand that this type of behavior is frustrating as hell.
I agree with you about the whole pinging chat thing. I took a break from season 3-8 and when i came back had all these new pings. I miss the the original six pings. I'm heading top, center, bottom, keep up the pressure, retreat and gather here is all you really need.
@@m1dn1ghtqtI was thinking the same thing. “Sorry” is hard to use sarcastically(unless your opponent can see chat too. Like rocket league lolol.) But there are times I accidentally take last hit on farm when only trying to damage it or stuff like that where “sorry” would be useful
As a deci main (sorry). The surrender vote is a serious hinderance to me, I'm trying to snipe but a quarter of my target area is constantly obstructed! And most of the time our team is winning but it's just one guy that keeps spamming it
I feel like the ping spam is just apart of a bigger problem. I usually dont get tilted in games until i started playing unite. It annoys me when people will leave or throw games in competitive. I get itll happen but it just seems like it happens in every game.
I get bothered or bummed when an objective is overtaken or we lose on a misplay at the end. TILT time for me is when folks are just hell bent on NOT playing and Unite thinks they’ve guaranteed a comeback somehow that’s gonna overtake FIVE players versus four or even sometimes three.
Oh god, people who surrender early are so annoying and then you see 2 or 3 people vote yes and know that half your team has already given up. You should NEVER surrender before Rayquaza, regardless of how hard you’re being pumped up to that point. I’ve had so many games where we’re being crushed only to get the last hit on Ray and end up winning.
This not a fix, but Jake and this game has definitely taught me to be more patient, control my anger and go into each match and not immediately get tilted at dumb teammates. Thanks Jake. Also I support the muting the pinging
Penalties for bad sportsmanship should be much more extreme in my opinion. I don’t mean for people sitting still because sometimes something disconnects so I think that penalty is sufficient enough. But for offenses that are obviously deliberate(spinning around in the home goal, spamming thanks or help me, purposefully and consistently running towards the enemy without attacking to feed, etc. I think that those players should be banned from ranked play for at least a week. It’s unacceptable in my opinion. I also think it would make sense for a player to only be able to initiate a surrender vote once a game(per person). If you’re really losing bad enough to warrant a surrender, then another teammate can initiate it besides the teammate who already used their surrender at the 5 minute mark because they were tilted.
This is a huge throwback but there was an iPad MOBA called vainglory that tracked bad behavior and then had a “karma” system from bad to great. I think bad karma and the tier above bad were silo’d off into their own separate queue until they had enough good behavior games in a row to be back in normal queue priority. Maybe something like that would work
it'd be cool if Unite had a karma system because then, they could encourage good karma by letting you unlock licenses by grinding good deeds. Like, they could add Victini but only if you do challenges that promote good karma, such as winning 20 matches with a friend, and healing 500k damage in one day, and Scoring 2k points in a 30 hours. Then, if you do things that lower your karma like going AFK or pinging the same message 5+ times, they'll retract some points and you'll lose access to progressing in certain challenges until you increase your karma. Basically what I'm saying is this game NEEDS to encourage good behavior far more than it does as of now.
oh, and to further expand on my previous comment, it would be cool if Karma was a way to unlock more clothing items...because if there's one issue that unite has that nobody talks about, it's that they're adding character clothing that costs money now and are no longer giving us free options. maybe just a cool Kyurem backpack, or a pretty little purple skirt with sableye faces on it, or some gloves with lucario's spikes on them. just neat things that players will see and go "aw, that's cute! i should play well and behave so i can earn them!'
@@zzeroara9511 iirc if you had great karma in VG you would passively get premium currency for skins. That probably isn’t the answer because VG notoriously died because it wasn’t monetized well enough and simply wasn’t capable of making enough money to maintain as a live service game, but you’re right there needs to be some incentive
@B2E2 actually one of unite's biggest issues is monetization, so maybe with unite they could have a schedule- one month you'll be able to eatn free gems, the next month you'll get gems and clothing, and occasionally, every 4-6 months, they'll give you a free license along with some gems. sadly this'll never happen because TiMi is one of the greediest developers ever...
There are games where you can even report people for stealing your "role" aka stealing your jungle. Unite's reporting system and penalties are tthe most useless thing this game has.
Still having these problems, had a seriously toxic dude woth a mic yesterday. We lost but i put in so much work and got mvp and he trashed me. Also wasbgarbage talking the the whole team. Some people make a hard match worse
I think these frustrations are valid, and something I feel constantly. I definitely think there should be some changes. Definitely a report spam feature. Also, a way to get people to confirm objectives like in league. That way I can mute chat without having to sacrifice communication in taking a Regi for example. A big change I would be welcome to see is lane Queues. Unite is one of those few rare games where you absolutely need a certain amount of people in each lane. While movement is flexible, generally every game needs two top, two bottom, and one mid. A way to guarantee that would be super nice. I’m sorry to hear that you’re even experiencing that, especially in masters as the “Unite content creator” alongside chris. It’s really annoying I agree.
idk how you would guarantee 2 top, 1 mid, 2 bottom since it changes from meta's. You cannot just say "yo, that is not allowed" because double jungle has existed before, or solo top, 3 bot... so idk... they cant do that. And a report spam feature idk what u mean... if its "if x amount of players report you, you get punished" its been proven that you can get punished for maybe being a noob at the game, or being someone that people dislike playing against because you are playing sableye, invade greedent, or something else
@@darthhydreigon820 well, it would be similar to LoL. They have to focus on a lane, but they have the ability to switch. The thing is, no matter what meta, most strategies are still 2/1/2, cuz of the amount of jungle, it’s just that certain mons play differently. You could still have bot lane sableye and be a jungle disrupter, but you’d have to at least declare bot first. That way people actually know where everyone else is going -v-‘
I’m one of those people who only gets to play about an hour’s worth of games a day after work, and when half (sometimes more) of my games include people throwing tantrums like this, it really sucks. I just wanna have a good time playing Scaldbro
Just want to provide a different PoV as someone who mostly fills in a support ot defender role when no one else will. I mostly use the ping system when I need help, I've had countless games where I'm meant to be sharing top or bottom lane and the attacker just wanders off, either trying to fight the jungler for resources or going somewhere else where they aren't really needed at the time, pinging I need backup is the only thing I can do, specially when you're defending a lane by yourself against 2+ pokemon, so had to learn pretty fast how to be able to ping every 5 seconds, because most the time no one will respond at all, normally at the start when it doesn't look like there's anyone else in my lane I just say it once, and if I'm being ignore ramp it up, I don't just start spamming it out the gate. So if people had the ability to mute pings from the start of each game then I'd be even more screwed. Second when I have games like the one mentioned above and the enemy team is steamrolling my lane with no one else trying to back me up then the game is clearly a lost cause so the next best thing I can do it accept the game is a lost cause and surrender, having to play an entire game where you're the only one trying to defend a lane is a nightmare and far from fun, so yeah there are situation's where surrendering is needed.
As a support/defender main myself, in these situations you really just need to follow your team. Spam pinging is only wasting your own time especially if they aren't listening. Another important skill in Unite that EVERYONE needs to learn is just taking a loss when necessary. So many people will sit on tier 1 goal alone and die against 3 people. In these situations you need to just leave that goal and sit on the tier 2. Otherwise you're just another tick in their Exp pool. I've won plenty of support games by just accepting my team doesn't always make the best decisions and trying to empower whatever choices they make. This can all be applied to a carry role too, but instead of joining the team when they're pushing for no reason, eat all the farm on the map and be strong for Ray.
i think we should have the option to mute unnecessary pings like “Thanks!” and “Check it out!” but keep the main pings like “Gather here! and “Retreat!”-that way people can still communicate but toxicity can be reduced
@@pumpkin7446 you still lose leaving an entire lane undefended. you might as well surrender if they get to your middle goal before zapdos or Rayquaza because it's realistically over once they get it. that's a guaranteed 500 point drop and it doesn't break so instead of having to spread out to different goals they rush in one force at one location. Having all outer goals on one side gone is a death sentence.
@@thecrimsonfuckeralucardlor5087 it's about minimising the loss you can give up goals and farm so that you can contest for the last two minutes. You don't lose game by giving up goals if you have levels and unites you can still win ray fights
I think the worst was continuously pinging one of the players with "check it out" bc they were upset with whatever they've done. It's so distracting when they do that from beginning till end of game.
I'm already doing that with the voice report system. I troll a player so hard that they have to turn on their mic to telle me: "f*** you". Then I immediately report their voice. The only bad thing with that is I can see their enraged face after they receive the sanction notification. MOuhahahahaahahahahaahahahah!
I really appreciate such a prominent voice in the community addressing issues like this. I also really appreciate that you stick with it and do your best even when toxic teammates or other issues bring the experience down, because you genuinely enjoy and believe in the game. Thanks for being such a positive influence on the this game and it's community!
I’ve muted the game because of the terrible pinging. I would cancel it immediately if i could. The game makes me hate playing it because i only get a few games a day and have to deal with absolute garbage every game with people. I think an opt in program which gives ultra negatives for afk, i would select a hardcore mode that makes all unsportman conduct way more punished. And hardcore players can only play with hardcore players
If you mute pings, there has to be an exception for Supports/Defenders pinging "I need backup!". It could have a longer cooldown to reappear, but it happens far too often where as a Support/Defender I get abandoned in-lane just because a lane partner tried to overextend at low health or left to take our jungler's jungle.
I’ve could’ve sworn I’ve seen some matches you would take your allies lane farm. Especially if they are 2 levels below you. It’s not there fault that the jungles steals every farm to be level 15 while there teammates are at 10 or 11 by the time the Ray fight comes up. Plus I a lot of this I agree but it annoys me that you get two afk in a match. You gotta surrender there. Just annoying. My opinion ofcourse. But oh well
5:15 This video was freakn hilarious as a unite player because we ALL can relate to this ahahahahahahaha. I use pings like “you can do it” and “knock out the enemy Pokémon” and it seems to help with morale a lot more.
They can do what the battle Royale games have been doing and only match people who spam thanks in game with each other so they can have a full toxic lobby.
I don't want to silence the messages thingy because how I'm supposed to communicate with my teammates if I don't have a Micro. Sometimes I need backup or said, "wait for our allies", "leave the defense to me", while my team is focusing on scoring, "Retire", "lets fight this objective together", "Check this out" (sometimes the jungle forgot to jungle or when Rayquaza fight is about to start, it is a reminder), " My Unite is ready to go" etc. It's really good to keep some lv of communication with my teammates.
Once I vote on the surrender prompt get it out of my screen. I hate that it takes up that chunk of my screen. Additionally I'd love it if they could also remove quests from the quest tracker once they're complete. I can be somewhat obsessive but I don't like that both the quest is still there in the menu and there is no check box, strike through or something. I also don't like closing 5 menus asking for money every time I open it.
I’m one of those players who cannot play as often and when I can play, it’s maybe 3 matches if I’m lucky. I just had a match last night where someone stayed at base and the main goal once we lost our first goal and it was frustrating. It was hard to 4v5. An update on this would be a huge quality of life improvement.
A lot of the reasons you’ve mentioned were the underlying causes as to why I took a 4 month hiatus. I’m one of those players who used to be able to only play an hour or so every few nights otherwise I had to sleep early because I wake up early for work. Encountering endless players who purposely throw the few games I could play a week really got me fed up to where after I made it to master in season 6, I dropped off and didn’t come back until a couple of weeks ago. I take things in stride when I do encounter annoying toxic players, I just chalk it up to bad luck and after the game I block them and do a quick report. My frequency of playing and love of the game cooled down during my break, and I think that’s what a lot of players need is to take breaks from the frustrations of the game and then come back after the stressors are gone.
My favorite solution to this is cheater island, where you put all cheaters to play against only other cheaters. Guess they coukd call it "toxic island" and do the same for toxic people where not only will their queues be longer but also they will have to deal with people just as annoying as they are
I dig the mute ping options, the reports system might be difficult to change, and giving players something to play good team comps is a great idea even if its like 1 coin or ticket, just put it in a way its too noticeable so that they might think of doing it
Thanks for addressing all this. These are all the reasons I stopped playing. No point in spending more time than necessary rage ranking while troll team mates throw. Getting punished for just wanting to play and have a good time and even punished for being good cuz the better you are, the worse your teammates are.
A satisfying feeling tho is when someone in the match is spamming thanks/surrender Votes and then u turn the game around and win. That’s why u don’t give up!
I’ve recently dealt with one of these goof balls in a discord vc, it was incredible how miserable they were on vc the entire match. They’d start complaining as soon as they’d die in some dumb place or if our rotates were a millisecond late. No matter what I did it was always throwing and they never grew the balls to play my role of defender instead they hogged jungle every match we played, on top of that we’re both 1750+ at end of season there’s was no reason to get all pissy since we’ve got the rank season rewards. Man, it’s just like league sometimes I swear to arceus.
I think unite should keep better track of in game actions and behaviours and match teams accordingly. Match people who spam chat a lot. Match people who don’t fight rayquaza. Match people who afk. Suddenly all trolls are paired up and it’s a lot less fun
Also I think the reason the thanks spammers get frustrated so much is because they keep getting teamed with horrific players. What the game really needs is accountability for being bad at the game.
Okay this is a terrible take. I get frustrated with bad players too, but how can you ask the game to punish someone for being bad at the game. Unite doesn't even TEACH players how to be good. It just shows them bare minimum game mechanics. If anything, Unite has to be held accountable for better teaching. I honestly believe they could easily do this by partnering with creators that have good game sense and linking to video tutorials by them.
@@pumpkin7446 bro how about not letting it be incredibly easy to rank up?? Ranked systems are supposed to punish bad players and reward good players. If I’m in master rank it should perfectly reasonable to EXPECT that my teammates have very good knowledge of the game and aren’t going to be making bad plays all game. New players shouldn’t be even be allowed in the ranked playlist until they hit a certain level.
I think I've had 1 genuine thanks in 3 seasons of playing. I paused farming to help out a team mate running back to base, as Blastoise, that's my job. Got a thanks ping and instantly said out loud "you're welcome"
Another fix for surrender voting is making it unavaible until minute 3 or 2. There's something really frustrating when a 5 minute surrender gets through. And for ping spammers, is easy: made constant pinging a valid toxic behavior reason. I'm sure the game is able to track that easily... And while we are at it, rework the Fair Play point system completely and make penaltys actually harsh.
Can't agree there. I've had a game recently where we had lost all four goals already BEFORE 5 minutes, while we had nothing. Why? Because the enemy team was playing as a TEAM, while my allies were too busy sniffing random plots of grass to bother engaging. That game is lost and making people sit in it for 3 minutes more doesn't help anyone
I vibe with this so much. I had a jungle consecrate on my team ping from 8:50 (when he first died) to the end. I ended up out damaging him as a support snorlax.
“Don’t have feelings” “it’s just a game” “we should remove people for using a game mechanic” Yeah, weird how in the video the people usually spamming are the ones you aren’t helping and when you do help the spam stops, it’s almost magical. “Minor inconvenience” can turn the tide of any serious ranked game. If you don’t like the toxicity nor the competitiveness that comes with it then you need to play standards of quick. People play the game for money and cash rules all. You act as if everyone needs to be sucking each other off while playing Pokémon unite and kissing each other every time they make a good play. I play with buddies and we curse at each other when we make a mistake and we fix it and move on, even if we do good we still yell at each other to focus and our team has a 80% win rate because of it. Cancelling people for wanting help sounds like a skill issue on your part. Be a team player, I’ve ran with you before, probably played with the bot Spragles but even then carrying an old ass dude in ranked who cries about not helping his team is weird as hell man. My man’s trying to be an internet adolf “ban the thanks spammers” shave that mustache, you definitely didn’t earn it.
I intentionally put the "Lets keep pushing until the end" Command in for people who give up too early & try to surrender. It also shows im not the one who's voting yes to it.
You know what is worse than skipping the first two bunnelbys? Doing the jungle and only getting two minions, to fight the enemy team still on level 4 like the other ones aren't there
absolutely insane seeing the amount of games a lot of these players have played and their terrible win rates. i dont know how u can spend 50,000min on a game, lose more than half your matches, be toxic, and not realize youre the problem
Man, on a match with one friend yesterday, a troll got on our team two times... The Guy was playing espeon, and he DIDN'T evolve the entire match... Dude was an eevee level3 at rayquaza... Didn't do a single thing... And the game didn't ever punished him, even with two people reporting... So frustrating
There was one Pikachu player that was so tilted at every little thing good or bad that they would purposely wait till someone made a ping to say where the enemies are and then spam "Thanks" and they would follow me around and do nothing but feed the enemy team, like bro... who hurt you?
Tbh i just hate the ppl who don’t wanna play as a team and are even trolling picks or just fighting for jungle ppl just don’t wanna play together and it makes the game no fun thus creating more spam and negativity
I think it should be an accumulative suspension system. They get reported once, get suspended for 30 minutes, 1 hour, 5 hours, 1 day… so on etc until eventual ban. There’s no place for toxic throwing in such a team oriented game
i just played a match and we broke their first two goals and just when we got the first regiliki , the opposing team immediately surrendered, it wasnt even 5 min into the game and i just relate so much with this video cause they had really good late game tank and secure pokemon and could have waited till raquaza atleast .
@@xExplizit No you can't. I've won hellish games from behind and with less than knowledgeable teammates. It can be harder and maybe less fun in the process, but the end result is satisfying.
Thank you so much for this. I had been quite disappointed and honestly sad after watching a few recent videos of yours where you blamed things on the playerbase without pointing a single finger at the devs. Now, this is a great step in the right direction imo. The developers need to incentivize good behaviour and punish bad behavior by implementing things in the game. You cannot ask people/players to do this, do that. People will always do what they want whether it is good or bad. Anyways, this video restored a little bit of my faith in you.
I use that feature when my entire team is completely abandoning me. I use 'I need backup' not Thanks. But when i see my jungler living on the bot lane when a zacian, and the laners are farming top lane.
I had a guy yesterday who spammed me all game and didn't even play. Did a total 1k damage and pretty much just should in spawn all game. He then proceeded to spam invite me to his team for 15 mins making me just quit for the day. I recommend going invisible if you're a solo queue player!!
new player here, play on mobile, used to play a MOBA called vainglory, they did implement a ping mute button for individual players and i think that would be extremely useful here. i was shocked to see so much spam so early on in ranked in Unite, but hey, the more things change the more they stay the same i guess
I rarely see ping spam during my matches, so these problems are probably few and far between in Asia. Everyone uses the alerts when necessary, and what needs to be done. I get tilted as well, I'm a Comfey main in Ultra rank 2 for F's sake and I seen my fair share of bad games but never in my life would I just spam and annoy people, that's how people get annoyed and do the same thing. Watching this video, I can't help but think that maybe players in other regions are more... maybe too into the game.
I've witnessed voice chat rage's into allies even more commonly now around Master (1300-1500), I usually don't mute them because it's funny, but there's a point were it's sad when they insult people commanding into playing however the salty person wants, which lane to go, like if they were scared. And not even like good plays at all.
I feel like in lower ranks there is much less "thanks" spamming players. There are afk, and trolls, but in veteran/ultra i bearly see someone spamming chat.
Yesterday a Pikachu was being chased from enemy tower to ours with 1 hp. I killed the enemy and I got thanked. I OK'ed. That's literally the only single time I think both players ever meant it.
Honestly Devs need to work on making an avoid list and a better version of rayquaza since it feels the same way as zapdos with a fair portion of the time resulting in defending against ray shield team which is a loss
Surrender should be an option only when Rayquaza is done. So many people give up early or even weirder surrender spam when you're winning. Reporting should lead to actual time outs.
Yeah its exactly as you said. I didn't get to play that often and this is the main reason I stopped playing as much. Loved this game but I haven't logged on in like 2 months because I couldn't deal with people having a temper tantrums everything I played. Hope to come back to the game at some point🙃
What is another small fix that would help the game instantly?
There should be some big changes to matchmaking if that’s possible but I also think that people who spam ping thanks should be stopped from playing for a short amount of time, maybe they will stop playing entirely for that day, or wait out the timer, it could definitely help calm them down and be ready to play another match if they really want to keep going
I am very frustrated from these players
Avoid team mate button with a list of atleast 200 people. I mean it. There are so many griefers/trolls in my games which makes me rage sometimes so hard i have to take a break from playing. And that's a shame because i love this game.
A moba AND pkmn game?! Sign me up! I was so hyped when this game was announced and played a lot when it came out. Had tons of fun with my unite starter talonflame (pls buff my bird).
Also get rid of surrender vote as much needed i totally agree with you on every point u said.
As you were talking about the pings I had the idea of setting a maximum of 10-20 pings over the course of the entire match, and after that you get no more messages
Also I think they need to actually filter the voice comm reports, I have turned on my voice chat in the last 20 seconds of the game and say “that was a great game team, we got ahead early and kept our compose through that final fight, enjoyed playing with you all” and then got reported, like there needs to be something that actually checks for negativity
Their should be a system like if u call center first while selecting Pokemon it gets locked for other teammates for like 1 min or 45 sec so that early game jungle stealing can be avoided
The real villain here is whoever tf taught people to skip the first 2 lane minions
AGREED
especially as a mew player💀
Seriously it makes it so much slower killing farm it enrages me 😂
We could’ve shown up to the mid lane farm as brothers, but they just HAD to get ahead of you.
I feel like assassin Dave or inder made a video about skipping it to secure the middle Pokemon then to go back and get it but I feel like it was during the exp glitch thing where only Pokemon who didn't evolve were doing good
what's even more ridiculous is that the same players who'd spam "thanks" and "check it out" end up being the ones who thumb up everyone at the end of the game when we end up turning the match around
Hey guys👍👍👍👍sorry about that 😇water under the bridge right
I mean hecc, I'll take a thumbs up any day
Not mine lol
its to easrn their fairplay points back lol
I really hope that being able to report people for spam at some point. If you do more than 20 pings each match, you're probably a tilted spammer, should be banned from playing with regulars and forced to play with other spammers.
I’ve always felt it’s easy to ignore players until they start throwing the game, that’s where I draw the line.
That's when the "Thanks" is logical to use
@@TheLMBLucasNah man, if you have "Thanks" in your wheel it means you are eventually throwing a temper tantrum lmao
@@xlilraphx Not after playing LoL for years, quitting the game for how toxic it is back in 2016 and now being 30+ and playing this for fun
I just use it a single time when someone is throwing a ranked game, if I'm starting to tilt, I just stop and play a singleplayer
Sometimes ill do it just once to get a team to play harder or to see how many have already given up just to see how hard its gonna be. Usually im to busy just trying to make it to pay attention. An didnt notice lol thats why those are constantly hitting check it out thats happened to me a lot in some games. I judt was trying to figure out why tgey kept hitting it. Lol i just to busy ti notice most the time 😅
Bruh there's always someone who spams "Thanks!" And it's always someone who has done nothing low damage low everything like they're the one doing something
My favorite is when people don’t understand exp share and still get mad for you giving them xp
or when they get mad that you secure a contested piece of farm when they are a mew whose moves are on cooldown againt a ninetails, obviously you're not gonna get it and ninetails is gonna steal it from us, so im gonna secure it but i guess they rather the enemy have it.
@@blogistuff4383 this happens way too much. People just need to understand the game better
Im in masters (1650 right now) and I played for about an hour last night and lost every....single...match...due to tilted players. I literally saw a Charmander steal a jungle minion from a Machop (annoying but whatever right?) and the Machop went back to base...sat there and spammed thanks the whole rest of the game. It's a mess at the moment.
I’m sorry you experienced that but ngl I laughed reading your comment 😂😭
Maybe blocking a player would blacklist them from matching in the same team would be good
That's what I've been waiting for ever since the game released. An actual block list that actually prevents certain players (like the spammers and the little kids) from being matched up with you would solve more than half of this game's matchmaking problem.
I’m not sure about this but can you ban certain switch accounts via friend profiles? Like in smash you can friend or block online opponents and you won’t see those opponents ingame after blocking. I don’t know if unite has the same connectivity but is that possible?
It's kinda sad for those players that are actually thankful for their teammates' efforts, only for the other teammates thinking that they're being sarcastic 😔
Might as well remove the "thanks" and the other messages that most players are spamming, so there won't be any harm
It is a shame. I main support and I felt so validated when I got paired up with a twitch streamer so my friends and I quickly jumped into her stream so we could listen to her while we were a team. At one point she ans her friend were running from an enemy cuz they were almost dead and she questioned why I was zig zagging behind them.
Her: "Blissey why are you doing that, RUN"
Her friend: "Wait, it's taking all the basic attacks!"
"Blissey you are literally a life saver!"
She then friended me after the match
@@eeveeongirl that was VERY WHOLESOME. Kinda wish that other players would feel the same when their defenders and supporters did that.
Why remove it? If you are that thin skinned, don't play online video games. Just give people the option to mute pings if they want but keep the "thanks" ping, so people who want it, can have it.
@@CyberN-7660 I’m a sponge when it comes to being Defender.
People think it's sarcastic 'cause of this video..SAD but true...
In terms of the surrender vote, once there's 2 red (or a garunteed non-surrender) it should just vanish.
Also, the person who surrendered previously should have a longer cooldown on the nest surrender. 1:30 minutes between surrenders? force them (the players who will generally spam surrenders) wait longer, 2:30~3:00 min.
That's good suggestion
maybe even make it so you can only initiate a surrender vote once a game(per person). I can’t see any reason why you would need more than one anyway because the only time you should ever surrender is after losing rayquaza and with no way to come back imo
its good for high ladder but not ultra and below when you already lost the game and 2 random players still want to fight
Mobile players suffer a bit more from the constant surrender vote screen warning when we use the screen to switch moves, see the status of every ally, etc. Not once I accidentally clicked a surrender vote when trying to switch Mew’s moveset cause I actually have to CLICK the screen to do so
I accidentally used unite moves because I clicked them and it's so annoying when I accidentally select a move I don't want
@@m1dn1ghtqt I won't even tell you how many times as a Clefable I happened to choose Draining kiss over Moonlight when I tried to use the x-speed. I felt useless all match
Yeah I’ve also misclicked on mobile like that
I think its interesting that Spragles has been being more vocal negatively lately. Always seen him as a positive role model, and nothing ever got him down. Not that its a bad thing, a lot of this needs to be said.
I Wanna talk about things that are bad and good. I’m very positive on the game but this behavior is really toxic.
it's comfey to masters, it's a disease sucking all the positivity out of spragels!
I live for every moment spragels gets mad. It makes my day
@@mihalipinzon7933 So you feel good when someone is having a bad day.... get some help thats not a good thing in general.
To be fair, he manages to talk about these negative things in the most positive way possible.
Literally last night, the opposing team surrendered WHILE WINNING!
My team technically won while
being in a 100+ point deficit
It was before the final 2:00 min too!
We definitely need to be able to mute pings and the last thing these people need is rank protection tbh. I think as a warning instead of -10 it should be -20 thrn there’s games certain games that sense’s malicious play in the game and auto bans if ignored too many times I think this a good way to scare people into playing the game no matter how upset they feel.
They should just make it so the first 3 pings every match are free while the rest cost 1 fair point each. You get 5 back every match or something so you can use up to 8 if you play normally. If you want to spam or go afk you go into the negative until you fall below 80
@@solarium4884
Unfortunately that'd only work if they also adjusted fair play points to actually mean something, as it stands right now its pretty much this game's swear jar.
What they could do is increase the reward to 300 a day making every point worth 1 coin. That way well mannered players are rewarded with effectively double weekly coins, and the truly tilted become the guy/gal shoving bills into the jar.
I agree with you Spragels. Sadly it feels whenever a popular UA-camr makes a video on this subject the toxicity levels and pings go up for a few days. We need to be able to mute pings period. And after you vote the box needs to minimize.
Totally
Honestly I'm one of those players that uses ''thanks'' when someone helps me or we do a really good push and I'm really happy (y'know, the intended purpose) and because of this people I'm always afraid that my team might take it the wrong way.
This needs to stop
If it's possible, they should just make the surrender button only be available when Rayquaza is defeated
But I guess just removing the surrender button completely is probably the better solution. I mean, it's just a 10 minute match for each game.
I disagree. I don't wanna suffer another minute just to watch the enemy team score hundo burgers. If you lose the Rayquaza fight, or are clearly losing because of trolling, just surrender. 99.9% of the time, you can't come back.
i don't think you understand why the surrender vote exists in the first place, my guy
The actual thing we need is a ping that’s says OMG IM LAGGING HELP ME
I'm surprised muting pings is not already an option, it feels like the bare minimum
one time i was trying to steal ray suddenly a surrender vote popped up and it was at the rayquaza hp bar,so i wasn't able to steal
it was so frustrating
2 major things that would mostly solve this problem:
- a block list that actually works to prevent players like these from being matched with you in the future
- more players having map awareness or just looking at the map in general to see where their teammates are or what mobs have spawned
I do wonder how a block list works.... cuz if so people would just block people who are using op pokemon to not see them in their game, or that invade greedent they do not want to see, maybe they had a match with a new player and they hate that, out of their queue, its just gonna skyrocket everyone's queues cuz now they will have to check every single person that they do not have someone in the match avoided.
Like imagine being a sableye main, and every oppponents decides to block you because they do not want to face it, well ur queue times are skyrocketing
Get your Thanks! tickets here
Thanks!
THANKS!!! Yee haw forever
Thanks!
Thanks
I’ll get one, thanks!
The sad thing is when you actually try to be helpful with pings calls and people interprets it as you being annoying/tilted. Or pinging a specific place before an objective spawns in there a couple times before they appear. I would pay for situational commands like "Rayquaza is spawning in X seconds be careful". But I mean, removing them altogether would not be a bad call given they're mostly ignored for one reason or another...
People clicked Thanks! Faster than full heal, it's astonishing
Haha
I'm torn because whenever I get a Thanks enjoyer on my team half of me wants to see us pull through while they run into the enemy base and feed, but on the other hand the last thing I want to do is help hand them a free win.
Im glad you've been more vocal with this lately cause it's getting very tiring that when someone calls out players like this then you're "toxic" or "negative" when it effects everyone when playing the game . From new, to casual, to experts and not just the ones that do play this game as a job. And things shouldn't be sugar coated for people to understand that this type of behavior is frustrating as hell.
All we need is a option to back out of the game if we don't like the team comp
I agree with you about the whole pinging chat thing. I took a break from season 3-8 and when i came back had all these new pings. I miss the the original six pings. I'm heading top, center, bottom, keep up the pressure, retreat and gather here is all you really need.
You can change them back to the old ones
No. The new chat options open up more strategy.
They need to add a "Sorry" one
@@m1dn1ghtqtI was thinking the same thing. “Sorry” is hard to use sarcastically(unless your opponent can see chat too. Like rocket league lolol.) But there are times I accidentally take last hit on farm when only trying to damage it or stuff like that where “sorry” would be useful
@@mr_clean575 Mhm
As a deci main (sorry). The surrender vote is a serious hinderance to me, I'm trying to snipe but a quarter of my target area is constantly obstructed! And most of the time our team is winning but it's just one guy that keeps spamming it
I feel like the ping spam is just apart of a bigger problem. I usually dont get tilted in games until i started playing unite. It annoys me when people will leave or throw games in competitive. I get itll happen but it just seems like it happens in every game.
I get bothered or bummed when an objective is overtaken or we lose on a misplay at the end. TILT time for me is when folks are just hell bent on NOT playing and Unite thinks they’ve guaranteed a comeback somehow that’s gonna overtake FIVE players versus four or even sometimes three.
Oh god, people who surrender early are so annoying and then you see 2 or 3 people vote yes and know that half your team has already given up. You should NEVER surrender before Rayquaza, regardless of how hard you’re being pumped up to that point. I’ve had so many games where we’re being crushed only to get the last hit on Ray and end up winning.
This not a fix, but Jake and this game has definitely taught me to be more patient, control my anger and go into each match and not immediately get tilted at dumb teammates. Thanks Jake. Also I support the muting the pinging
Penalties for bad sportsmanship should be much more extreme in my opinion. I don’t mean for people sitting still because sometimes something disconnects so I think that penalty is sufficient enough. But for offenses that are obviously deliberate(spinning around in the home goal, spamming thanks or help me, purposefully and consistently running towards the enemy without attacking to feed, etc. I think that those players should be banned from ranked play for at least a week. It’s unacceptable in my opinion.
I also think it would make sense for a player to only be able to initiate a surrender vote once a game(per person). If you’re really losing bad enough to warrant a surrender, then another teammate can initiate it besides the teammate who already used their surrender at the 5 minute mark because they were tilted.
This is a huge throwback but there was an iPad MOBA called vainglory that tracked bad behavior and then had a “karma” system from bad to great. I think bad karma and the tier above bad were silo’d off into their own separate queue until they had enough good behavior games in a row to be back in normal queue priority. Maybe something like that would work
it'd be cool if Unite had a karma system because then, they could encourage good karma by letting you unlock licenses by grinding good deeds. Like, they could add Victini but only if you do challenges that promote good karma, such as winning 20 matches with a friend, and healing 500k damage in one day, and Scoring 2k points in a 30 hours. Then, if you do things that lower your karma like going AFK or pinging the same message 5+ times, they'll retract some points and you'll lose access to progressing in certain challenges until you increase your karma.
Basically what I'm saying is this game NEEDS to encourage good behavior far more than it does as of now.
oh, and to further expand on my previous comment, it would be cool if Karma was a way to unlock more clothing items...because if there's one issue that unite has that nobody talks about, it's that they're adding character clothing that costs money now and are no longer giving us free options. maybe just a cool Kyurem backpack, or a pretty little purple skirt with sableye faces on it, or some gloves with lucario's spikes on them. just neat things that players will see and go "aw, that's cute! i should play well and behave so i can earn them!'
@@zzeroara9511 iirc if you had great karma in VG you would passively get premium currency for skins. That probably isn’t the answer because VG notoriously died because it wasn’t monetized well enough and simply wasn’t capable of making enough money to maintain as a live service game, but you’re right there needs to be some incentive
@B2E2 actually one of unite's biggest issues is monetization, so maybe with unite they could have a schedule- one month you'll be able to eatn free gems, the next month you'll get gems and clothing, and occasionally, every 4-6 months, they'll give you a free license along with some gems. sadly this'll never happen because TiMi is one of the greediest developers ever...
I wish they just remove the option to surrender in a ten minutes game..
I wish people didn’t abuse these commands bc it’s lovely when I get a real Thanks ping 💗
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
There are games where you can even report people for stealing your "role" aka stealing your jungle. Unite's reporting system and penalties are tthe most useless thing this game has.
Thank you for being real. And being a voice for us all.
You’re welcome
Still having these problems, had a seriously toxic dude woth a mic yesterday. We lost but i put in so much work and got mvp and he trashed me. Also wasbgarbage talking the the whole team. Some people make a hard match worse
I think these frustrations are valid, and something I feel constantly.
I definitely think there should be some changes. Definitely a report spam feature. Also, a way to get people to confirm objectives like in league. That way I can mute chat without having to sacrifice communication in taking a Regi for example.
A big change I would be welcome to see is lane Queues. Unite is one of those few rare games where you absolutely need a certain amount of people in each lane. While movement is flexible, generally every game needs two top, two bottom, and one mid. A way to guarantee that would be super nice.
I’m sorry to hear that you’re even experiencing that, especially in masters as the “Unite content creator” alongside chris. It’s really annoying I agree.
idk how you would guarantee 2 top, 1 mid, 2 bottom since it changes from meta's. You cannot just say "yo, that is not allowed" because double jungle has existed before, or solo top, 3 bot... so idk... they cant do that. And a report spam feature idk what u mean... if its "if x amount of players report you, you get punished" its been proven that you can get punished for maybe being a noob at the game, or being someone that people dislike playing against because you are playing sableye, invade greedent, or something else
@@darthhydreigon820 well, it would be similar to LoL. They have to focus on a lane, but they have the ability to switch. The thing is, no matter what meta, most strategies are still 2/1/2, cuz of the amount of jungle, it’s just that certain mons play differently. You could still have bot lane sableye and be a jungle disrupter, but you’d have to at least declare bot first. That way people actually know where everyone else is going -v-‘
@@elijahpark5344 ok... and people are just gonna call center... what is stopping them from just doing that... and just griefing jungle...
I’m one of those people who only gets to play about an hour’s worth of games a day after work, and when half (sometimes more) of my games include people throwing tantrums like this, it really sucks. I just wanna have a good time playing Scaldbro
Just want to provide a different PoV as someone who mostly fills in a support ot defender role when no one else will. I mostly use the ping system when I need help, I've had countless games where I'm meant to be sharing top or bottom lane and the attacker just wanders off, either trying to fight the jungler for resources or going somewhere else where they aren't really needed at the time, pinging I need backup is the only thing I can do, specially when you're defending a lane by yourself against 2+ pokemon, so had to learn pretty fast how to be able to ping every 5 seconds, because most the time no one will respond at all, normally at the start when it doesn't look like there's anyone else in my lane I just say it once, and if I'm being ignore ramp it up, I don't just start spamming it out the gate. So if people had the ability to mute pings from the start of each game then I'd be even more screwed. Second when I have games like the one mentioned above and the enemy team is steamrolling my lane with no one else trying to back me up then the game is clearly a lost cause so the next best thing I can do it accept the game is a lost cause and surrender, having to play an entire game where you're the only one trying to defend a lane is a nightmare and far from fun, so yeah there are situation's where surrendering is needed.
Agreed !!!
As a support/defender main myself, in these situations you really just need to follow your team.
Spam pinging is only wasting your own time especially if they aren't listening.
Another important skill in Unite that EVERYONE needs to learn is just taking a loss when necessary. So many people will sit on tier 1 goal alone and die against 3 people. In these situations you need to just leave that goal and sit on the tier 2. Otherwise you're just another tick in their Exp pool.
I've won plenty of support games by just accepting my team doesn't always make the best decisions and trying to empower whatever choices they make.
This can all be applied to a carry role too, but instead of joining the team when they're pushing for no reason, eat all the farm on the map and be strong for Ray.
i think we should have the option to mute unnecessary pings like “Thanks!” and “Check it out!” but keep the main pings like “Gather here! and “Retreat!”-that way people can still communicate but toxicity can be reduced
@@pumpkin7446 you still lose leaving an entire lane undefended. you might as well surrender if they get to your middle goal before zapdos or Rayquaza because it's realistically over once they get it. that's a guaranteed 500 point drop and it doesn't break so instead of having to spread out to different goals they rush in one force at one location. Having all outer goals on one side gone is a death sentence.
@@thecrimsonfuckeralucardlor5087 it's about minimising the loss you can give up goals and farm so that you can contest for the last two minutes.
You don't lose game by giving up goals if you have levels and unites you can still win ray fights
I think the worst was continuously pinging one of the players with "check it out" bc they were upset with whatever they've done. It's so distracting when they do that from beginning till end of game.
I would be horrified if trolls were able to abuse reports to attack their teammates if they did fix reports to actually do something
I'm already doing that with the voice report system. I troll a player so hard that they have to turn on their mic to telle me: "f*** you". Then I immediately report their voice. The only bad thing with that is I can see their enraged face after they receive the sanction notification. MOuhahahahaahahahahaahahahah!
Jake! Jake, Jake... Please be a game developer I'll play anything you touch.
That’s a cool idea
@@spragels Hmmm wooot?? Is that really an option? Which # Jake am I talking to?
I really appreciate such a prominent voice in the community addressing issues like this. I also really appreciate that you stick with it and do your best even when toxic teammates or other issues bring the experience down, because you genuinely enjoy and believe in the game. Thanks for being such a positive influence on the this game and it's community!
I’ve muted the game because of the terrible pinging. I would cancel it immediately if i could. The game makes me hate playing it because i only get a few games a day and have to deal with absolute garbage every game with people. I think an opt in program which gives ultra negatives for afk, i would select a hardcore mode that makes all unsportman conduct way more punished. And hardcore players can only play with hardcore players
Not a bad idea
If you mute pings, there has to be an exception for Supports/Defenders pinging "I need backup!". It could have a longer cooldown to reappear, but it happens far too often where as a Support/Defender I get abandoned in-lane just because a lane partner tried to overextend at low health or left to take our jungler's jungle.
I’ve could’ve sworn I’ve seen some matches you would take your allies lane farm. Especially if they are 2 levels below you. It’s not there fault that the jungles steals every farm to be level 15 while there teammates are at 10 or 11 by the time the Ray fight comes up. Plus I a lot of this I agree but it annoys me that you get two afk in a match. You gotta surrender there. Just annoying. My opinion ofcourse. But oh well
Funny of you to say that pinging is frustrating because you've been pinging "Help me!" all throughout this video XD
Haha
🤣
*walks into a 1v5*
*dies*
"Let's fight toghether"
Get your Check it out! tickets here
Check it out is actually a good command to ping things like objectives, but, these players are just… I want to scream rn
5:15 This video was freakn hilarious as a unite player because we ALL can relate to this ahahahahahahaha. I use pings like “you can do it” and “knock out the enemy Pokémon” and it seems to help with morale a lot more.
Appreciate the video jake, THANKS!
Check it out!
They can do what the battle Royale games have been doing and only match people who spam thanks in game with each other so they can have a full toxic lobby.
I had been playing a bot battle because i was on a losing streak but the thing that made me tick was that a freaking bot afk(ed) 💀
I don't want to silence the messages thingy because how I'm supposed to communicate with my teammates if I don't have a Micro. Sometimes I need backup or said, "wait for our allies", "leave the defense to me", while my team is focusing on scoring, "Retire", "lets fight this objective together", "Check this out" (sometimes the jungle forgot to jungle or when Rayquaza fight is about to start, it is a reminder), " My Unite is ready to go" etc. It's really good to keep some lv of communication with my teammates.
Once I vote on the surrender prompt get it out of my screen. I hate that it takes up that chunk of my screen. Additionally I'd love it if they could also remove quests from the quest tracker once they're complete. I can be somewhat obsessive but I don't like that both the quest is still there in the menu and there is no check box, strike through or something. I also don't like closing 5 menus asking for money every time I open it.
I’m one of those players who cannot play as often and when I can play, it’s maybe 3 matches if I’m lucky. I just had a match last night where someone stayed at base and the main goal once we lost our first goal and it was frustrating. It was hard to 4v5. An update on this would be a huge quality of life improvement.
A lot of the reasons you’ve mentioned were the underlying causes as to why I took a 4 month hiatus. I’m one of those players who used to be able to only play an hour or so every few nights otherwise I had to sleep early because I wake up early for work. Encountering endless players who purposely throw the few games I could play a week really got me fed up to where after I made it to master in season 6, I dropped off and didn’t come back until a couple of weeks ago. I take things in stride when I do encounter annoying toxic players, I just chalk it up to bad luck and after the game I block them and do a quick report. My frequency of playing and love of the game cooled down during my break, and I think that’s what a lot of players need is to take breaks from the frustrations of the game and then come back after the stressors are gone.
My favorite solution to this is cheater island, where you put all cheaters to play against only other cheaters. Guess they coukd call it "toxic island" and do the same for toxic people where not only will their queues be longer but also they will have to deal with people just as annoying as they are
this is so true. I hate when I'm just trying to play 3-4 games and my last one gets ruined by somebody like this
I dig the mute ping options, the reports system might be difficult to change, and giving players something to play good team comps is a great idea even if its like 1 coin or ticket, just put it in a way its too noticeable so that they might think of doing it
Thanks for addressing all this. These are all the reasons I stopped playing. No point in spending more time than necessary rage ranking while troll team mates throw. Getting punished for just wanting to play and have a good time and even punished for being good cuz the better you are, the worse your teammates are.
A satisfying feeling tho is when someone in the match is spamming thanks/surrender Votes and then u turn the game around and win. That’s why u don’t give up!
I’ve recently dealt with one of these goof balls in a discord vc, it was incredible how miserable they were on vc the entire match. They’d start complaining as soon as they’d die in some dumb place or if our rotates were a millisecond late. No matter what I did it was always throwing and they never grew the balls to play my role of defender instead they hogged jungle every match we played, on top of that we’re both 1750+ at end of season there’s was no reason to get all pissy since we’ve got the rank season rewards. Man, it’s just like league sometimes I swear to arceus.
No surrendering is ruining Pokémon unite I never give up no matter what and it pisses me off when my team does id rather have the cpu on my team
I think unite should keep better track of in game actions and behaviours and match teams accordingly. Match people who spam chat a lot. Match people who don’t fight rayquaza. Match people who afk. Suddenly all trolls are paired up and it’s a lot less fun
Also I think the reason the thanks spammers get frustrated so much is because they keep getting teamed with horrific players. What the game really needs is accountability for being bad at the game.
Okay this is a terrible take. I get frustrated with bad players too, but how can you ask the game to punish someone for being bad at the game.
Unite doesn't even TEACH players how to be good. It just shows them bare minimum game mechanics. If anything, Unite has to be held accountable for better teaching. I honestly believe they could easily do this by partnering with creators that have good game sense and linking to video tutorials by them.
@@pumpkin7446 bro how about not letting it be incredibly easy to rank up?? Ranked systems are supposed to punish bad players and reward good players. If I’m in master rank it should perfectly reasonable to EXPECT that my teammates have very good knowledge of the game and aren’t going to be making bad plays all game. New players shouldn’t be even be allowed in the ranked playlist until they hit a certain level.
I think I've had 1 genuine thanks in 3 seasons of playing. I paused farming to help out a team mate running back to base, as Blastoise, that's my job. Got a thanks ping and instantly said out loud "you're welcome"
Thanks after a life saving knock out is usually sincere. Or after letting somebody take a farm last hit to evolve. Everything else is usually abuse.
Whew, I agree. This is something that's really getting out of hand.
Yeah it can be rough sometimes
Another fix for surrender voting is making it unavaible until minute 3 or 2. There's something really frustrating when a 5 minute surrender gets through.
And for ping spammers, is easy: made constant pinging a valid toxic behavior reason. I'm sure the game is able to track that easily... And while we are at it, rework the Fair Play point system completely and make penaltys actually harsh.
Can't agree there. I've had a game recently where we had lost all four goals already BEFORE 5 minutes, while we had nothing. Why? Because the enemy team was playing as a TEAM, while my allies were too busy sniffing random plots of grass to bother engaging. That game is lost and making people sit in it for 3 minutes more doesn't help anyone
I vibe with this so much. I had a jungle consecrate on my team ping from 8:50 (when he first died) to the end. I ended up out damaging him as a support snorlax.
That happened to me with support Hoopa out damaged the jungler who was a gardevoir and my lane partner who was a delphox
“Don’t have feelings” “it’s just a game” “we should remove people for using a game mechanic”
Yeah, weird how in the video the people usually spamming are the ones you aren’t helping and when you do help the spam stops, it’s almost magical. “Minor inconvenience” can turn the tide of any serious ranked game. If you don’t like the toxicity nor the competitiveness that comes with it then you need to play standards of quick. People play the game for money and cash rules all. You act as if everyone needs to be sucking each other off while playing Pokémon unite and kissing each other every time they make a good play. I play with buddies and we curse at each other when we make a mistake and we fix it and move on, even if we do good we still yell at each other to focus and our team has a 80% win rate because of it.
Cancelling people for wanting help sounds like a skill issue on your part. Be a team player, I’ve ran with you before, probably played with the bot Spragles but even then carrying an old ass dude in ranked who cries about not helping his team is weird as hell man. My man’s trying to be an internet adolf “ban the thanks spammers” shave that mustache, you definitely didn’t earn it.
Im sorry but "I need backup, Thanks!, and Retreat" Are too much for me since Dodrio has 3 Hats
I intentionally put the "Lets keep pushing until the end" Command in for people who give up too early & try to surrender. It also shows im not the one who's voting yes to it.
You know what is worse than skipping the first two bunnelbys?
Doing the jungle and only getting two minions, to fight the enemy team still on level 4 like the other ones aren't there
absolutely insane seeing the amount of games a lot of these players have played and their terrible win rates. i dont know how u can spend 50,000min on a game, lose more than half your matches, be toxic, and not realize youre the problem
Man, on a match with one friend yesterday, a troll got on our team two times... The Guy was playing espeon, and he DIDN'T evolve the entire match... Dude was an eevee level3 at rayquaza... Didn't do a single thing... And the game didn't ever punished him, even with two people reporting... So frustrating
There was one Pikachu player that was so tilted at every little thing good or bad that they would purposely wait till someone made a ping to say where the enemies are and then spam "Thanks" and they would follow me around and do nothing but feed the enemy team, like bro... who hurt you?
Tbh i just hate the ppl who don’t wanna play as a team and are even trolling picks or just fighting for jungle ppl just don’t wanna play together and it makes the game no fun thus creating more spam and negativity
I would like to add that the number of times Ive accidentally used my unite move while trying to vote to not surrender is greater than 0.
I think it should be an accumulative suspension system. They get reported once, get suspended for 30 minutes, 1 hour, 5 hours, 1 day… so on etc until eventual ban. There’s no place for toxic throwing in such a team oriented game
i just played a match and we broke their first two goals and just when we got the first regiliki , the opposing team immediately surrendered, it wasnt even 5 min into the game and i just relate so much with this video cause they had really good late game tank and secure pokemon and could have waited till raquaza atleast .
was there a Garchomp and Eldegoss on your team? I might have been in your bot lane. I had a game like that earlier too 😂
Sometimes just based off your team composition and also how poorly you guys fight together you can pretty much call it at the 5min mark :/
@@xExplizit No you can't. I've won hellish games from behind and with less than knowledgeable teammates.
It can be harder and maybe less fun in the process, but the end result is satisfying.
I played like 10 games and won once bc one player was either afk or busy farming while everyone else in their team is trying to defend the goal.
Thank you so much for this. I had been quite disappointed and honestly sad after watching a few recent videos of yours where you blamed things on the playerbase without pointing a single finger at the devs. Now, this is a great step in the right direction imo. The developers need to incentivize good behaviour and punish bad behavior by implementing things in the game. You cannot ask people/players to do this, do that. People will always do what they want whether it is good or bad. Anyways, this video restored a little bit of my faith in you.
I use that feature when my entire team is completely abandoning me. I use 'I need backup' not Thanks. But when i see my jungler living on the bot lane when a zacian, and the laners are farming top lane.
What really ruins a match for me is everyone playing Eeveelutions and refuses to consider team comp.
I had a guy yesterday who spammed me all game and didn't even play. Did a total 1k damage and pretty much just should in spawn all game. He then proceeded to spam invite me to his team for 15 mins making me just quit for the day. I recommend going invisible if you're a solo queue player!!
Agree , since 2 month i feel like toxic and player that troll are WAY more active than before .
Super frustring
new player here, play on mobile, used to play a MOBA called vainglory, they did implement a ping mute button for individual players and i think that would be extremely useful here. i was shocked to see so much spam so early on in ranked in Unite, but hey, the more things change the more they stay the same i guess
I rarely see ping spam during my matches, so these problems are probably few and far between in Asia. Everyone uses the alerts when necessary, and what needs to be done. I get tilted as well, I'm a Comfey main in Ultra rank 2 for F's sake and I seen my fair share of bad games but never in my life would I just spam and annoy people, that's how people get annoyed and do the same thing.
Watching this video, I can't help but think that maybe players in other regions are more... maybe too into the game.
Thank you for bringing it up. Damm! These people always ready to surrender and at times it also blocks the vision and you are just wiped out. 😕
I've witnessed voice chat rage's into allies even more commonly now around Master (1300-1500), I usually don't mute them because it's funny, but there's a point were it's sad when they insult people commanding into playing however the salty person wants, which lane to go, like if they were scared. And not even like good plays at all.
I feel like in lower ranks there is much less "thanks" spamming players. There are afk, and trolls, but in veteran/ultra i bearly see someone spamming chat.
I’m a comfy main and I use my Thanks genuinely, especially whenever a teammate waits for me to catch up them when they see me following them
Yesterday a Pikachu was being chased from enemy tower to ours with 1 hp. I killed the enemy and I got thanked. I OK'ed. That's literally the only single time I think both players ever meant it.
Honestly Devs need to work on making an avoid list and a better version of rayquaza since it feels the same way as zapdos with a fair portion of the time resulting in defending against ray shield team which is a loss
Surrender should be an option only when Rayquaza is done.
So many people give up early or even weirder surrender spam when you're winning.
Reporting should lead to actual time outs.
11 hours after posting this video and they did what you asked, you've become god
Gotta be the shortest response time for a dev ever. /s
Yeah its exactly as you said. I didn't get to play that often and this is the main reason I stopped playing as much. Loved this game but I haven't logged on in like 2 months because I couldn't deal with people having a temper tantrums everything I played. Hope to come back to the game at some point🙃