What’s In Your Instant 3-In-1 Coffee? | Talking Point | Full Episode

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  • Опубліковано 23 січ 2022
  • Many of us can’t do without our 3-in-1 coffee. It is not only quick, convenient and cheap, but more importantly, it gives us our much-needed boost in the morning. But what’s really in our favourite 3-in-1 sachets, and how much of a caffeine kick is it really giving us? Host Rai Kannu brews up a storm to find out.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 419

  • @bently4758
    @bently4758 2 роки тому +187

    As a food technology graduate student who is pursuing journalists world for career, i am a fan of CNA! I mean you guys always make food insights becoming so interesting, scientific based, and easy to understand! Good job!

  • @SonyDjuana
    @SonyDjuana 2 роки тому +253

    What I heard from a coffee manufacturer, those 3 in 1 coffee is using a rejected coffee beans from the coffee plantation. The manufacturer use certain additives to make the taste consistent, so any good or bad coffee beans has no issue for them. I’ve stop drinking 3 in 1 for years and making my own coffee using French press, personal espresso pump, or just a simple v drip. Always drink black coffee, no sugar, no creamer or milk.

    • @ateeramj
      @ateeramj 2 роки тому +12

      Ay Ay Sir. Home brewed coffee is the best. And yes, black coffee always be the best.

    • @walkerb392
      @walkerb392 2 роки тому +10

      Make it bulletproof by mixing with pure butter or vco.. 👌

    • @TheWalabies
      @TheWalabies 2 роки тому

      True

    • @lydiat5819
      @lydiat5819 2 роки тому +1

      Then you gonna grow old with grey teeth, like those people who smile or laugh trying hard to cover their teeth.

    • @sootuckchoong7077
      @sootuckchoong7077 2 роки тому +18

      I'd still prefer instant coffee, first, because I have no time to make the coffee taking so much time. Also, I feel when I tried making coffee, usually the taste not as good as I expected. But instant coffee, the taste is perfect.

  • @nashuabale94
    @nashuabale94 2 роки тому +39

    As a coffee addict, this documentary was everything!!! thank u

    • @MisterHowzat
      @MisterHowzat Рік тому

      This documentary is a coffee addict?

  • @philippeplouchart8156
    @philippeplouchart8156 Рік тому +11

    A better form of “instant coffee” for me is the cold brewed coffee, a concentrate that is kept in the refrigerator until needed to pour with or without other ingredients.

  • @yengsabio5315
    @yengsabio5315 2 роки тому +64

    In my view, these 3-in-1 instant coffees are not actually coffee. I call it 'coffee-flavored' sugar.

    • @Hoehan8222
      @Hoehan8222 11 місяців тому +4

      Your view is clearly misinformed. 😂

    • @brucelee5576
      @brucelee5576 11 місяців тому +3

      It’s dehydrated coffee, that’s like saying beef jerky is not beef.

    • @Hoehan8222
      @Hoehan8222 11 місяців тому +1

      @@brucelee5576 or ba kwa is not pork, just sweetened gelatin

    • @logatwong_jowo3367
      @logatwong_jowo3367 10 місяців тому

      Sugar Drink...😅

    • @peterdo5047
      @peterdo5047 8 місяців тому

      He did say in his views, guys. Probably needs to get his eyes checked, but that's beside the point.

  • @nasilamak2201
    @nasilamak2201 2 роки тому +63

    I was addicted to this coffee, drinking 6 to 8 cups per day. One morning, I got up and threw my supply of coffee in the trash. That was three years ago. I went through withdrawals for a week. My mood was not good and I refused to be around other people because I was so angry. I haven't touched coffee or tea in three years, and coke or other sodas in eight years.

    • @lydiat5819
      @lydiat5819 2 роки тому

      Great for you. I don't like the strong smell of coffee when a person walks pass, just like a person who smells like a walking cigarette.

    • @nasilamak2201
      @nasilamak2201 2 роки тому +8

      @@lydiat5819 Wow! You can really smell coffee on a person? I can smell a smoker, but I had no idea coffee drinkers smelled as well.

    • @FunkyKiwi7
      @FunkyKiwi7 2 роки тому

      Well done

    • @surveyguyor8958
      @surveyguyor8958 2 роки тому +2

      Ya. but studies show now you won't live as long.

    • @nasilamak2201
      @nasilamak2201 2 роки тому +2

      @@surveyguyor8958 it's about living my best life.

  • @metaruman333
    @metaruman333 2 роки тому +9

    In short,3 in 1,mostly sugars and additives.Coffee bags(mostly),were usually roasted with margerine,sugars and rice.So,buy fresh roasted beans grind and brew! A healthier lifestyle start from a better choice.

  • @gregg4600
    @gregg4600 Рік тому +11

    Thank you Host Rai Kannu for a very user-friendly and extremely informative AND entertaining report about "3-in-1 Coffee"! Your questions covered many aspects revealing a wealth of helpful information for global consumers! Many questions, I never thought of asking! Bravo Rai!😊

  • @Jay-ru2cw
    @Jay-ru2cw 2 роки тому +98

    Love this series. Educational, informational and easy to understand. Looking forward to other episodes!
    Will you be able to look into tea, multi-vitamins / supplements, tonics like bird nest?

    • @bintiraha3250
      @bintiraha3250 2 роки тому

      they have done airfare vs deep-fried foods, indigenous vs farmrasied chicke, bottled vs tap water, and many others

    • @iZNozomi569Karthigashini
      @iZNozomi569Karthigashini 2 роки тому +1

      Actually, Steven Chia did talk about bubble tea

    • @viarabe527
      @viarabe527 2 роки тому

      That would be great!

  • @johnperalta8164
    @johnperalta8164 2 роки тому +25

    Hey...This one actually is a balanced, no fuzz eye-opener: for serious caffeine lovers! Great presentation sir...And oh, personally, have not been drinking my own coffee in terms of health consciousness aspects until recently, with borderline type 2 D. not much but something to watch out for. and vids like these help a lot... I'd rather die tho than not have a whiff of good dark coffee aroma for my day-in/day-out grind. LOL
    Enjoying my Iced black while watching here, from the Philippines! ^_^

  • @denisep7557
    @denisep7557 2 роки тому +2

    love this host!

  • @Minimanemohahaha
    @Minimanemohahaha 2 роки тому +2

    A very good content and high quality reporting!

  • @gericsoreda1589
    @gericsoreda1589 2 роки тому +6

    Drinking here a cup of barako V filtered coffee while acquiring better knowledge about coffee.
    Thanks CNA!

  • @chrisczk1211
    @chrisczk1211 2 роки тому +8

    Freshly brewed > 3 in 1. But sometimes, due to lack of time, it still works.

  • @antman7673
    @antman7673 2 роки тому +1

    Very joyful atmosphere. Brightened my mood.

  • @talkinghat88
    @talkinghat88 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video and intro on Singaporean produces. Respect to the hard work and detailed findings.

  • @subaday9218
    @subaday9218 2 роки тому +5

    Sequel on making your own coffee at home! So many coffee gadgets to choose from!

  • @Unan1mouz
    @Unan1mouz 2 роки тому +5

    I love coffee and this was interesting to watch.

  • @anna_wong
    @anna_wong 2 роки тому +6

    Hmmm... so those coffee that we drink at coffee shop / kopitiam / hawker centre, do they classify as speciality coffee? They brew coffee from ground coffee beans.

  • @rhapps121
    @rhapps121 2 роки тому +1

    Great info

  • @fella9293
    @fella9293 2 роки тому +4

    As a coffee lover, we know it could make us mad or happy

  • @FrozenPeanuts
    @FrozenPeanuts Рік тому +1

    I'm binging on these Talking Points, so addictive!

  • @lamjay5189
    @lamjay5189 Рік тому

    So interesting, thank you 🙏🏻

  • @GiftsnBlooms
    @GiftsnBlooms Рік тому

    very well explained! Good Job! God Bless!

  • @ainzooalgown7589
    @ainzooalgown7589 2 роки тому +6

    i drink coffee before i go for power naps, feel more energized than just drinking the coffee or just nap

  • @thawmawsoeaung9174
    @thawmawsoeaung9174 2 роки тому +4

    OMG, Zane Cai is so so pretty, I need a coffee now😨🤤

  • @tanjoy0205
    @tanjoy0205 2 роки тому +5

    If there was ever coffee shortage the Singapore economy would fall off a cliff .

  • @voranartsirisubsoontorn9010
    @voranartsirisubsoontorn9010 2 роки тому +4

    Love sugar in my cup. Love your way of work. Very prof & fun.

  • @wrldtrvlr4vr
    @wrldtrvlr4vr 2 роки тому +3

    I also discovered my 3 in 1 is stronger than my regular coffee. What I do is remove the cream and sugar portion and the result is a strong espresso.

  • @leonardpearlman4017
    @leonardpearlman4017 10 місяців тому

    I'm very enthusiastic about coffee, and have always regarded instant coffee as filthy poison. Some of the products we see here (locally the Vietnamese ones were the first, now I can buy a wide variety of 3-in-1 types from many countries) are drinkable, but I still regard them as "emergency coffee"! It's a big step up, and that emergency DOES occur! For me this might be if I have an intense busy job, or am taking a long road-trip in bad weather. There have been times when I was tired and cold, out in the country somewhere... and a little portable stove and a pack of instant coffee seemed like a real treat!

  • @hojx
    @hojx 2 роки тому +8

    So basically the best 3-in-1 coffee is when we remove 2 out of 3...

  • @k.s5889
    @k.s5889 2 роки тому +1

    This is very interesting, I love coffee ☕, thank you

  • @1tanteckhwee
    @1tanteckhwee 2 роки тому

    Tq CNA. Very educational video 👍

  • @Schjoenz
    @Schjoenz Рік тому

    I was used to consuming 3n1 coffee until 4th quarter of last year. I felt bloated and lost the appetite to eat proper meal. I was sure it was the 3n1 because I only get bloated the next day when I tried skipping coffee for a day or 2.. I used to drink 3-5 cups a day. Around October last year, I switched back to black coffee, drank about 2-3 cups a day, and I was happy. No more bloating and I even slept better. But then I started craving for 3n1 again. What I did was I mixed an instant black coffee, muscovado sugar, and a bit of instant creamer and put it in a jar. I get a consistent taste the way I want because I measure how much of each content I add. I still get added fats because of the creamer but not as much as the 3n1 that I can't control. I only consume 3n1 during travels if I have no access to brewed coffee.. Coffee is LIFE for someone like me.

  • @foevachanster
    @foevachanster 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome documentary!!! I am a little scarred since I love my 3 in 1! Lol but feel very Informed now of my choices. Thanks cna!

  • @NewHampshireJack
    @NewHampshireJack Рік тому +1

    Any product that has "hydrogenated" anything on the ingredients list, we place back on the store shelf. Powdered coffee creamer is on our DNP (Do Not Purchase ) list. A little sugar may not destroy you but I also avoid that. To keep it simple, I support local coffee farmers where I have gone into semi-retirement in the Philippines. A bag of roasted beans, a means to grind the beans, and good water are all you really must have. Filtering is nice but optional. A few years ago, I could purchase coffee beans and roast them to my personal preference. Might do that again soon?

  • @duallove6909
    @duallove6909 2 роки тому +3

    I liked the presenter. Did a great job

  • @kinorinadiy
    @kinorinadiy 2 роки тому +1

    The sugar fact was very interesting!

  • @Abi_ebenezer
    @Abi_ebenezer 2 роки тому +3

    Absolutely enjoy CNA's videos of everyday daily foods or drinks.

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature 2 роки тому +1

    CNA is a great channel. I watch it often in the U. S.

  • @kironsidhu1615
    @kironsidhu1615 2 роки тому

    wow very informative video.thanks from Malaysia❤

  • @myMotoring
    @myMotoring 2 роки тому +3

    in the 1970s SR71 was flying at more than 3 times speed of sound and people went to the moon & back, but we yet to figure out to mix coffee, cream & sugar in one package.

  • @meouby2
    @meouby2 2 роки тому +3

    I had Stop taking 3 in one and change to home self mixing.. 1 small spoon sugar 2g .. + nescafe gold(good value) + coffee mate .. nutritionist guru can tell me thos is ok? Sometimes i drink 2 drinks a day

  • @chweehar
    @chweehar 2 роки тому +2

    Why is there no mention of decaffeinated coffee? really like to know more of that too, thanks

  • @rhomzkietfttv5571
    @rhomzkietfttv5571 2 роки тому +1

    My favorite 3in1 coffee is Kopiko from Malaysia. Almost 10 years drinking 3in1 and now I want to quit and switch to black coffee with creamer and evap milk because I know 3in1 is not good for health. Thank you CNA

  • @keifuchan7265
    @keifuchan7265 2 роки тому +3

    14:28 That is what we have always used in Japan, and that bag is from Japan ha. It says kiritori on it which means tear point. I was surprised to see them using a bag of coffee the same as like for tea?! That would definitely make your coffee taste horrible if not removed right away.

  • @miniliebenberg9644
    @miniliebenberg9644 2 роки тому +1

    ENRISTO 3 in 1 coffee is my favorite (the blue packet). I live in the USA and can’t find it anywhere. Can someone tell me where I can order it from? I think it comes from Italy or Portugal.

  • @blufiro
    @blufiro 2 роки тому +5

    I am trying to reduce the amount of plastic I buy and there's so much plastic that goes into each instant coffee packet. I'd love to know why can't they just use paper packets?

    • @lstan6794
      @lstan6794 2 роки тому +5

      Probably because paper is porous, cannot keep out moisture and cannot retain the flavour.

  • @pvzheroesph3548
    @pvzheroesph3548 Рік тому +13

    As a coffee drinker, this is very informative. I switched to black coffee long time ago. I put a little bit of cinnamon to make it more aromatic. I drink 3-in-1 only on certain occasions. Btw, Kopiko brand (from Indonesia) makes me palpitate so much. I stop patronising that brand. Black coffee is still the best! Thank you CNA. All the best from the Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @wh6055
    @wh6055 2 роки тому +18

    Rai's a treasure! Thanks for the effort team, this will help a lot of Singaporeans.

    • @inaraymundo4865
      @inaraymundo4865 Рік тому +1

      Maltodeztrin rises blood glycemic index up to scale of 100, so bad for pre diabetic and diabetic person,

  • @koutouyo
    @koutouyo 2 роки тому +7

    This isn't coffee this is energy drink made in form of chemical.

  • @allier1867
    @allier1867 Рік тому +1

    I know just the basics but the taste is really a world of difference when you brew your own coffee...

  • @sylverrain4620
    @sylverrain4620 2 роки тому +25

    Is instant noodles 🍜 good for one health for ever day consumption? Same for instant coffee.

    • @robsycko
      @robsycko 2 роки тому +3

      No

    • @TTDPera_rideswiftly
      @TTDPera_rideswiftly 2 роки тому

      there is an episode of talking point about instant noodles ua-cam.com/video/LX6iVY2b4U0/v-deo.html

    • @TheWalabies
      @TheWalabies 2 роки тому

      Instant noodle is not to say “bad for health”. Depend on the ingredients they use. It is convenient and provide instant energy quell satiety. However long term consumption is bad. It only provided limited nutrition: carbohydrate. This in the end you will be lacking a lot of nutrition like protein and micro nutrients and minerals.

  • @tulsip6529
    @tulsip6529 11 місяців тому

    Thanks,

  • @maxmaran6557
    @maxmaran6557 2 роки тому

    Wow awesome information and learnings , excellent presentation by host kannu thank you

  • @deeb.9250
    @deeb.9250 2 роки тому +2

    I can read the ingredient list and wonder about the emulsifiers in there

  • @IanPaulSaligumba
    @IanPaulSaligumba 2 роки тому +6

    My favorite 😍 Can’t start my day without it

    • @klaussternthaler1736
      @klaussternthaler1736 Рік тому +1

      You are so creasy primitive stupid people
      Sugar making cancer you idijot

  • @kitokid86400
    @kitokid86400 2 роки тому +18

    Please make one for "Adult Milk Powder". So many brands out in the market and hard to choose. Big fan of Talking point...

  • @astaridjatmiko8187
    @astaridjatmiko8187 2 роки тому +3

    whenever i arrive at my home late at night, tired, a cup of 3 in 1 instant coffee helps me to sleep easier.

  • @yuanmingwee8033
    @yuanmingwee8033 2 роки тому

    In the blending process, what is the etc ingredients beside coffee, sugar n creamer?

  • @jauipop
    @jauipop 2 роки тому +12

    3-in-1 coffees are terrible. Doesn't take a genius/scientist to figure that out. Filled with chemicals, high in sugar and the amount of packaging is terrible.
    It's not hard to just have a jar of good freeze dried instant coffee, quality sugar and milk (if you really need it) in your kitchen. Literally takes 2mins to put it all together in the morning or whenever you need a coffee fix.
    Or even better, get coffee beans, get it ground up and buy a French press. It's the less extreme version of what the barista was presenting because who has the time for that!!!

  • @therav2007
    @therav2007 3 місяці тому

    very good

  • @nicholasbolas
    @nicholasbolas 2 роки тому +19

    4:03 Killing me for a long time 😭

  • @tracypologruto498
    @tracypologruto498 Рік тому

    Very interesting

  • @MrHeat48
    @MrHeat48 Рік тому +6

    As a normal human being, I found this very useful and informative. Thanks for the detailed research on instant coffee.

  • @harveyh3696
    @harveyh3696 2 роки тому +2

    I had Covid the other week.
    I miss the taste of coffee.

  • @erichng6309
    @erichng6309 2 роки тому +4

    Great video, answered many of our Q.

  • @lokemmslokemms4294
    @lokemmslokemms4294 2 роки тому +2

    as a coffee drinker myself, the best is dont drink at all.

  • @orangetree4470
    @orangetree4470 2 роки тому +4

    Good documentary. Do more of this~

  • @user-zo3oi8ot1i
    @user-zo3oi8ot1i Рік тому

    8:23 you must be proud of that pun lmao

  • @animejanai4657
    @animejanai4657 2 роки тому +5

    I wanted to see more insights from CNA Insider at each step of the coffee sachet process as to whether or not that method is the best. For example, it was said the most important step is obtaining the dried coffee powder. The sachets use hot-air spray-dried processing, but how does that compare to the freeze-dried processing method?

  • @alramos7448
    @alramos7448 Рік тому +1

    Wow i like this video so much

  • @myraj1448
    @myraj1448 9 місяців тому +1

    Once again, thank you for this coffee detailed information. As a daily coffee lover, I do like instant 3-In-1 coffee, fresh ground and other instant coffees, of course with less ingredients, the better. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @duxxling103
    @duxxling103 2 роки тому

    How long is the caffeine effect reside on our body? For instance, Is the amount of caffeine taken in 3 hours spread have the save effect if it's taken over shorter or say, 2 hour period?

  • @karunanithin.ramachandran6482
    @karunanithin.ramachandran6482 Рік тому +5

    One important fact about instant coffee is omitted from this documentary and it makes me wonder if this was intentional .
    Unlike in most of Asia the Europeans are required to show the amount of coffee in their instant coffee bottles or packages , and the highest amount of instant coffee powder in a bottle is only about 25% .
    I dread to imagine what the rest of that bottle contains .

    • @lev_rzld_
      @lev_rzld_ 10 місяців тому

      sugar, plant based creamer like wtf, and any chemical like anti caking agent, and of course synthetic sweeteners

  • @mikedice69420
    @mikedice69420 2 роки тому +1

    Used to love this coffee. But switched to pure black 4yrs ago due to sugar content and oils.

  • @syck3492
    @syck3492 2 роки тому +1

    Does read to drink coffee = Kopi or Kopi C from the coffee shop? or do they mean drinks from those cafe?

  • @umarhanan
    @umarhanan 2 роки тому +1

    After watching this, I start planting my own coffee tree instead of using 3-in-1

  • @danielch6662
    @danielch6662 2 роки тому +9

    11:00 stay away from the low sugar stuff. They replace sugar with artificial sweetener, or HFCS which is much sweeter than regular sugar so they can maintain the taste while using less. HFCS cause metabolic syndrome. It is one of the main reasons Americans are so fat. Massive US gov subsidy leads to an overproduction of corn, so they searched for how to use it, and that's how we get HFCS that is so cheap.

  • @johneckerd1750
    @johneckerd1750 Рік тому

    I love 3: and 1

  • @valkyrie1066
    @valkyrie1066 Рік тому +2

    I used to LOVE those; however, I began to realize they were spiking my blood sugar. Well, they taste good; but I decided to stop being lazy, and make my own, so I can adjust and reduce the sugar/cream intake. It's an insulin thing now, so I have to pay attention. Made me regret all the packets of hot chocolate mix I consumed as kid.

  • @jjj14
    @jjj14 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for advertising Kiliney.

  • @tammydavid
    @tammydavid 2 роки тому +1

    I haven’t seen acetate for presentations in a long time. OG google slides

  • @djvexus
    @djvexus 2 роки тому +1

    in HK they are looking at acrylamide concentration in instant coffee powder.

  • @mengsooho
    @mengsooho 2 роки тому +11

    Brewed coffee for those who love and understand coffee. Instant coffee is for those who do not discern.

  • @cheyzme
    @cheyzme Рік тому

    Watching this while drinking my instant coffee.

  • @James-uk6hs
    @James-uk6hs 10 місяців тому

    Is plain black instant coffee like Moconna better than 3in1? I drink that coz it's more convenient (& cheaper) than an espresso & I perefer the taste (& cheaper still) than 3in1.

  • @ivylim8612
    @ivylim8612 2 роки тому +3

    Consider super automatic coffee machine that grinds from bean and make coffee with just a press of a button.
    Best investment ever made.

  • @awfully.average
    @awfully.average 2 роки тому +1

    during the first year of the corona i picked up home brewing of coffee, never looked back since

    • @theozzy4717
      @theozzy4717 2 роки тому

      Me too, will never go back to instant. Although I never drank the 3 in 1!

  • @tejusvyas
    @tejusvyas 11 місяців тому

    What about Nespresso pods ? Any ideas ?

  • @powerfuldickcheese5643
    @powerfuldickcheese5643 2 роки тому +6

    The quality of your programmes...amazing! Keep it up.

  • @moderneducationalstandard
    @moderneducationalstandard Рік тому +2

    I like my 3-in-1 better than normal coffee.
    It's just much more concentrated and tastier.
    It's also more convenient and at half the cost.

  • @leoharesreyes9493
    @leoharesreyes9493 2 роки тому

    Wow...strick quality control.

  • @MeMommyEms
    @MeMommyEms 2 роки тому +19

    I brew my own coffee using French press and then make my own cup with heavy cream and stevia. I am not a fan of instant 3 in 1. I always knew that’s not healthy.

    • @peacebe2u480
      @peacebe2u480 2 роки тому

      Every action has the price.. in term of your time preparation n health issue down the road... but if a drinker is an exercise freak, 3 in 1 is no issue. Drip drip coffee, drive me crazy... too long to prepare.

    • @mrclayteevee
      @mrclayteevee 2 роки тому

      Healthy or not, we're gonna die anyway

  • @NdokGamez
    @NdokGamez 11 місяців тому

    I quit 3-in-1 Oldtown (Classic/Original or the Hazelnut) about 2 years ago as I notice it has high sugar. I switched to Moccona and fresh milk and no sugar.

  • @scrumbiepants
    @scrumbiepants 2 роки тому +2

    Drinking my 3rd cup of coffee while I watch this...

  • @simplycm
    @simplycm Рік тому

    💯

  • @CYHo-PG
    @CYHo-PG 2 роки тому +2

    The sheets of plastic with print on them, remind me of how I had to teach using the OHP. But why are these being used in this programme, when there is Power Point or equivalent that the screen could project?

  • @sjv9147s
    @sjv9147s 2 роки тому +20

    What about educating also on the health & safety aspects like, for example, the acrylamide (a carcinogen) content in the 3-in-1 coffee relative to other: (1) forms of coffee; & (2) brands of 3-in-1 coffee?

    • @se7enzee444
      @se7enzee444 2 роки тому +6

      Most 3-in-1 instant coffees have very little coffee but loaded with sugar, creamer with hydrogenated oil and other emulsiffers). It's like slow poison!

    • @sjv9147s
      @sjv9147s 2 роки тому

      @@se7enzee444 Agree. A broad-based educational isn't one that purveys merely a single aspect, in this case, of pushing the advertising and promotional view. A consideration of pros and cons is the only way for people to make good INFORMED decisions.

    • @sarahyip2825
      @sarahyip2825 2 роки тому

      Cancer causing over enough years. Prostate cancer is one slow hidden development! Among others.

  • @Wvk5zc
    @Wvk5zc 11 місяців тому

    so.. whats the best brand for instant coffee?