The $80 Lenovo Thinkpad T410s - A Good Laptop That I Wouldn’t Buy
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Today we are jumping back to the T410s to do a full review on it. I Picked up this laptop for $60 plus $17 shipping and $3 tax. The specs are as follows:
Intel I5 M560 @ 2.7GHz
Nvidia NVS 3100M
1440x900 screen
120GB 1.8” Toshiba SSD
4GB DDR3
Though this is a great used laptop, for a similar price you can get a Thinkpad T410 which has more USB ports and better thermals. You might even be able to find a T420 for a similar price which is significantly more powerful than the T410 and T410s. If you really need something light, then I would recommend looking at a X1 carbon instead.
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Someone pointed out that I forgot to mention the shared e-sata / USB port. So technically it has 2 dedicated USB ports + 1 shared! I'll still take the base T410 or T420 though ;)
same tbh
Also unrelated but hows the solar system you built a few years back holding up btw
will 1vyrain work on this?
@@jammetortiz808 no. 1vyrain only available for IvyBridge ThinkPad
Agreed, completely. The S-variants of the T-series are more expensive, less upgradeable, and harder to repair than the non-S versions, without offering much in the way of size or weight reduction.
These days I'd say that if you need the portability, get a modern ultrabook, and if it's going to be at a desk all the time, a normal non S version is fine.
and nowadays, ThinkPad T-s basically is just 14 inch non-X1 X-series with soldered components and bottom load keyboard since T490s/5s
The S-variant and i-variant are very unIBM to me. Only P-variant is better
The thermal pad for the North Bridge is OEM. It's also on the T420s.
the eSATA port works as USB 2 as well, so it technically has 3 USB ports
Excellent point, I should have mentioned that. I pinned a comment with an update. Thank you for pointing that out!
Got mine at my local goodwill store for $15
In that case, absolutely stick with the T410s, that's a great deal!
Bro I bought X230 after watching your videos and I have upgraded RAM to 16 GB and SSD 480 GB and it just cost me $200
You must have gotten that thing for a steal! Nice!
My main laptop is a t430s, I love it.
i7, 16GB ram, Ivyrain unlocked bios, thunderbolt 1 for an eGPU for gaming and a 1440p screen.
What’s strange is Lenovo retained or introduced some premium features on the -s models that the regular T series version didn’t have. Retaining the UltraBay battery is a notable example, they often have better quality materials used in the chassis compared to a full sized T series. The T420s had USB 3.0, the i7 iGPU T430s had Thunderbolt, the T440s had an *extra* USB port compared to the regular T440, and the T460s had NVMe SSDs, DDR4 RAM, and support for 1440p displays. With the T490s and T14s moving to all-soldered RAM and sharing its motherboard with the X390/X13, it really feels like there’s little place for it anymore unless people just want a cheaper version of the X1 Carbon.
I have a w530 all hopped up I will never get rid of, it's just fantastic. One of the last 15.6 inch display ( if not the last ) with a keyboard with out the numpad and off center touchpad. Good video post, thanks.
My first thinkpad was a t410s but yeah.... The weird drive and the rather lacking battery (not to mention the lack of good third party batteries) makes no sense to not get a t410 or t420. Also I can confirm that I had a lazily slapped on thermal pad on the underside of the keyboard too.
I'm still rocking my 430s 16 gigs ram 420 keyboard and i7 500gig ssd running zorin
Good to see you back making computer stuff again also how is your land property going ?
Thanks to your channel I'm rocking a T400 and it's perfect. Thanks
Nice video , also I've been looking at used think pad laptops and desktop computers on ebay that video may help me in making up my mind on a used think pad computer also how goes your new house building ???? , Well I hope Hope to hear back from you soon thanks
Ha, it's so slow. I'm still waiting on getting all of the million permits they need to actually start construction. It's definitely a slow process!
The main thing that people don't realise for the -s line, the s laptops usually have features from the next generation, t420s has USB 3.0, t430s has thunderbolt etc.
Also, the t410s has 3 usb ports.
hey man, go to see you back. great video ;) keep it up!
I got a T510 but realized it was too slow for me so I got a T530 but managed to get a good deal on a T560 and I'm happy with that. (for now)
So that brings my collection to:
X220 T420 T420s T520 T530 T510 T560
The ones I don't daily drive, I use as network storage or for my linux distro hopping obsession, or when I want to try a new distro / version but don't want to use a virtual machine.
baught a t480 about 6 months ago.
got it for a good deal.
the warranty is a nice addon.
beat decision I've made in years.
had a l470.x240.t430.t410.and t540p before it.
It's still ten years old. I wouldn't be buying the T410s unless I was desperate for something semi portable and couldn't afford a modern ultrabook. Maybe the standard T410 is alright for a temporary machine to use while saving up for something better.
I got a T430 and is got 16GB ram i7 and 2 terabytes of space for 120$ and 150$ of upgrades but when I got it was still pretty good
I bought one last year off of ebay for 55€ plus 5 € shipping. DIdn´t really put much thought into it, faintly remembered that the T410 and T420 where the good ones to look out for and just bought it (should have seen this vid before, lol). The seller probably realized he sold it too cheap as he tried to renegotiate but I refused.
It came with a crappy battery that doesn´t even work for an hour, a 256 GB SSD that the previous seller already had put in and Windows 10. It works pretty well for the regular office tasks one might do, sometimes it freezes for a sec but other than that it was a steal. I mostly use it at work and only a bit at home.
Sadly my 3d printer software and the CAD program wouldn´t work because of some extension missing within the graphic card drivers.
Your tip with the media bay battery is amazing though. I was looking to buy a regular replacement battery, but now Imma be looking out for a media bay one. I never used the cd-drive until now, thanks!
I just bought a mint T61, and one made well after the GPU issue was fixed. And now I'm after either an i5 or i7 powered machine. I'm leaning toward the T420 because of the classic keyboard. I know you can install a classic keyboard in a T430, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort.
I got ThinkPad T500 from 2008 this laptop is beast is heavy it got dual GUPs i run Windows 7 on it
The thermal pad under the keyboard is not stock.
while the X1 *carbon* didn't exist yet, the original X1 did and the X300 and X301 had been out for ages by then.
I just disassembled my T410 to see what was causing your hang up. There is no other screw and my palm rest came off with no issues
I have a few T410, a few T420, and a few T430. I do not know where the T440s or T450s went, if we even purchased any (that was way before my time). From my experience with these 3 models, they are not worth anything if you have the base config with the HDD. If you max out the RAM and put in an SSD and swap out the optical bay for the 2nd storage drive, it can make a fine beater laptop. I would not recommend them for doing anything or getting work done. If you are looking to buy a laptop, get something newer. Even if you are getting a laptop for a kid rough on technology, and you want Windows, get something else.
rather use my X301 with ultrabay battery (9h batterylife!!). SU9600 C2D CPU with FSB-Mod @2,4GHz - like a T400s. keeps cool n quiet, very light compact and best quality. also PVA/AFFS mod available. paid 50 bucks with 6GB RAM and that 1,8“ 64GB SSD
the screen on t410s is very good though I got the 300nits screen. also matte touch available. don‘t know how good the touch is. But I just put the T410s screen onto my T400/T61 Frankenpad ^^ Best hpe is putting the new XC9 16:10 screen onto my T420 though.
Also I love the magnesium bottom case of the classic s-suffix Thinkpads and my T410s comes with a flat surface touchpad, much better. it is different to a t420 nobbed touchpad even after having removed the touchpad sticker from t420.
I just paid 30$ dollars for a great condition dell Inspiron 7567 gaming laptop with nvidia 1050 an i5 laptop off OfferUp the person said it was broken an didn’t turn on I noticed they gave me a hp charger with it so I got a dell charger plugged it in an it fired right up it works great with no issues I guess the charger they gave me with it was no good this was a heck of a find I think I’m just going to sell it as I got a hp omen with better specs I probably bought the cheapest gaming laptop ever Lol
In the unlikely event you can find one reasonably priced, I'd love to see your thoughts on the Dell Precision M6700. Don't let the name Dell fool you, this laptop has every feature that you and I praise ThinkPads for, the build quality is exceptional, upgradability is unparalleled, and overall it's just a really nice machine. I got mine back in either 2017 or 2018 as an i5 base model and have since maxed it out and it's an incredible performer even today, hell it even tanks its way through most games with ease. Even if you can't find one terribly well priced, if you can get one at all I can almost gaurentee that you'll consider it as daily driver material - it's honestly THAT good.
I bought one recently for the best windows xp laptop gaming experience. Very nice laptop.
Get a T440p, upgrade the RAM to 16 GB, put a 4700MQ in it, and add the T450 trackpad. Best decision I ever made.
How is the driver situation with that trackpad swap? Have you tried using Linux with it, if so did the trackpad swap go well there too?
@@raymondgradzewicz I can speak to that. On Linux, just about any trackpad (synaptics, Alps, Chinese knockoffs) will have both a functioning trackpad and trackpoint. On Windows, both synaptics and Alps have drivers that will work, the difference being Synaptics will have a working trackpad and trackpoint, whereas Alps will only have a working trackpoint (and buttons), trackpad will not work.
Edit: here is a link to an easy guide: forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=126860
Hey what's ur battery life with the i7? Got a i7 4700mq on its way. But my battery life is kinda ass already with a used i5. I have a nine cell coming as well but ehhhhh. I'm also wary of thermals.
@@PsycosisIncarnated power draw on an i7-4700mq will be roughly similar to your i5-4200m, so on your existing battery you should get roughly the same battery life. Thermals are a non-issue if you repaste it properly and clear out dust from your fans, the i7-4700mq in my laptop idles at around 45 degrees and spikes to around 60-70 degrees on load. On a fresh 9-cell your battery life will probably be around 5-6 hours
@@RanenPo wouldn't i5 last longer on the nine cell? I'm starting to think that the i7 is total overkill.
Also I can tell t440p gets hot on the docking station due to the horrible design Lenovo did. It hides the fans and shit.
Also I think 60-70 under load is actually pretty high... But I'll give it a test and see what it is that I prefer. I might end up enjoying it at the end.
How's your battery life with that processor?
I also use Linux with TLP and powertop installed.
actually t410s has 3 usb. it's included in the e-sata port. witch is usb+esata
I actually bought a T440s a week ago today, and it has been a great daily driver so far when I threw the latest version of macOS Big Sur. I know the 40 series gets a bad rep within the ThinkPad community but it is so good, so inexpensive, and so powerful, it smashes the X1 Carbon that I had for 5 months to pieces. Bottom line, I would recommend the T440S to anyone looking for a sub $200 pc laptop or MacBook Pro.
Why do u put a shitty is on there though? Locking yourself in u should save up and get a M1 which at least has for 2021 a superior CPU or use a proper os. Windows and Linux are both great. Mavericks is an osx version that doesn't suck but big surveillance is horrible on speed, privacy and locked in at the same time.
@@emeukal7683 Because it’s my money and I could do what I want with it
Now to be fair, you can buy a mSATA to 1.8" SATA Adapter to use mSATA SSDs.
i have t410 i brought 6 months ago its great for older games
Can it run roblox or steam games
My main laptop for everyday use when I need a laptop is my thinkpad t61. still does everything i need it to do. I have 4gb RAM, an SSD and windows XP professional and it does everything I need it to do. I have alot of nicer laptops that I don't use as commonly just because I like my t61 and it does everything i need it to do.
the X1 carbon is the one that shouldn't exist. take for example the T430s, it is thin enough to be an Ultrabook while keeping Thinkpad's characteristics, durable with the classic keyboard and lots of I/O
The lack of a convenient way to add a primary SSD is certainly a drawback
You can very easily get an adapter for an mSATA SSD or even an m.2 SATA SSD.
The second gen core I laptops like the T420 would be the oldest I would personally go for.
I wouldn't go anything older than a T440/T540.
Is there no 15.6/17 inch Laptop models with number pad and straight(rectangular) Enter key that does not have the IME AMT(Intel) / TrustSecure(AMD) risks? Would be great if you could make a video on budget to mid budget laptop models that don't have these risks. Thanks.
Michael
Now you can buy if you're lucky a t460 for less than 100 bucks
Ive got an x240 with a 1080p touch screen if you would be interested in buying it.
can you give the name of this games wen you show playng please
Good content ... saved me from getting a 410s
Nice this good video laptop
nice im early and nice vid (:
The reason I wouldn't go for a T420 is because it's in 16:9 which frankly sucks. The T410 is the best option so far, though there are recent laptops that come in 16:10 and even 3:2 if one can afford them. But the other great thing with the T410 is the easily removable battery which you can get very cheaply and which isn't whitelisted. And the keyboard is just great, of course. I find the thinner size of the T410s quite impressive though, looks rather modern.
Something to consider with the t410 is that there is a flaw in the sound chip that causes it to quickly overheat and shut itself off after 30 seconds or so, making the speakers not work. So don't get unlucky, basically.
@@spagootest2185 Thanks for the info! I guess when using a usb headset this shouldn't be a problem. So maybe that would be a safety measure.
ThinkPads are like desktop - cheper & easy to upgrade, thinkpad lover
Older thinkpads can be upgraded. Newer ones not so much (think Tx80,Tx90, Tx15, Tx14 G1/G2). The only thing that can be upgraded is the SSD on some versions.
so i have a t410i i3-m370 and I put a 500gb toshiba hardive and it was some hw not tall enough and I put some plastic and sed it to keep it steady it works but hey though did say somthing
wow i payed $267 here in Canada mine they add another 4 gb ram because i ask them add it and came windows 10 pro
Hmm on your screenshot I see that the CPU benchmark result in Passmark for i5-560M is 2742, but when I look up this CPU on Passmark site, it shows 1842. How come?
I just got his computer today I ask them upgraded mine to 8gb it was $40 more MINE IS T410
I really hate those little red trackpads. They are fiddly to use.
even how good the x1 carbon is... the keyboard suck.
T400s love :)
Hi There, I am trying to fix display resolution for my Lenovo X230 with 2560 x 1080 but not able to fix it. Do you know any Fix for it? I am using Windows 10 Pro... and LG wide screen monitor.
I always get confused which of the many X1 gens are good -- only 3? (on the used market I mean)
The 3rd gen has the physical trackpad buttons so I would start there. I didn't really like the 1st gen and I skipped reviewing the second gen because it had the bad trackpad buttons too like the 1st gen did.
S-variant is very pointless. If I want a lighter Thinkpad I’ll just get the X-series
I have a x220 (i5 8gb ram) and a t430(i7qm 16gb ram). I want to upgrade my x220 for portability. The t430 is too heavy and i mostly use it on a dock. Which laptop should i get if i want to replace my x220? Any ideas?
X1 carbon
do you still play pinball
Can i upgrade i5 to i7 of t410i ??
To be honest, I'd rather have the T420s over the T410s.
Tinkpad t 410 ini sangat nampaj bilup IBM kerna tulisan lenovo belum tercetak di cesing luar sebelah kiri dan hanya tertempel tulisan logo tikpad sebelah kananya,apalagi dari mesin memang masih teknologi IBM
Weight probably.
This dude hating on a laptop like it stole his girl back in college
noice
T410 more better than T410s
3 2 W A T T H O U R M E D I A B A Y B A T T E R Y
Now I'm wondering if that would work with my X230 Ultrabase. Practical, no, but hilarious? Yes.
No, the ultrabase doesn't have the battery contacts, only the t60/61, t400/500 and the s models do.