Don’t Make Ben Ainslie Angry! 4 Times Ainslie Went Hulk Mode…

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  • Sir Ben Ainslie is the most successful Olympic sailor of all time. Winning 4 Gold medals and 1 Silver. In the Finn class and the Laser class.
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    From early in his sailing career Ainslie developed a reputation as a ruthless competitor who did not take well to people getting in the way of him winning. Missing out on gold in Atlanta 1996 Ainslie honed his trademark match racing skills.
    This video details moments from the Monsoon Cup, the 2000 Olympics in Syndey, the 2012 Olympic Sailing in London and SailGP.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @eemelikorhonen7763
    @eemelikorhonen7763 Рік тому +11

    I dont undestand that olympic thing what happened? Can someone explain?

    • @FastForwardSailing
      @FastForwardSailing  Рік тому

      Hi Eemeli, which Olympics was that? What part didn’t you understand? I’ll try to explain

    • @eemelikorhonen7763
      @eemelikorhonen7763 Рік тому +1

      2000 why ben only match raced that one guy?

    • @FastForwardSailing
      @FastForwardSailing  Рік тому +41

      @@eemelikorhonen7763 Ainslie was 9 points off Scheidt before the last race so to win Gold he would have to win the race (difficult to guarantee) and also Schedit would have to finish 9th (which was ever harder to guarantee). The safer option was to hassle Scheidt so he finished worse than 22nd. Of course doing so would mean Ainslie would likely finish 21st or worse but Ainslie could discard that result. Ainslie only had one bad result (20 or over). Schedidt had 2. There were only two discards so one more bad result from Schiedt and he's have to count a score above 20. Ainslie only had to count an 11 if he had a bad medal race result. Schedit had to count a 22nd if he had a bad medal race. That's 11 points Ainslie could gain on Schiedt if he match raced him

    • @bf2fsxcod4412
      @bf2fsxcod4412 Рік тому +3

      @@FastForwardSailing Thanks for that explanation!

    • @FastForwardSailing
      @FastForwardSailing  Рік тому +1

      @@bf2fsxcod4412 Pleasure!

  • @BlueSoulTiger
    @BlueSoulTiger Рік тому +42

    “You haven’t won the race, if in winning the race you have lost the respect of your competitors”. [the great dinghy sailor] Paul Elvstrom

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 11 днів тому

      He is disliked but they all respect him.

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 3 дні тому

      That’s a terrible quote. What matter is you win and don’t break the rules. Nothing else matters

    • @user-oe1mb9hu9i
      @user-oe1mb9hu9i 2 дні тому

      @@adamatch9624 The fact that youngsters have now become agressive on the water is thanks to Ainslie and the like sailing their boats in match racing and ramming others intentionally instead of manoeuvering to avoid and THEN protesting and letting the judges rule.
      They take things into their own hands and slam each other to prove that their are right.
      It's wrong. Sorry.

  • @markelliott3761
    @markelliott3761 Рік тому +15

    I felt the penultimate race in Weymouth 2012 showed more genius by Ainslie than the final. In the penultimate, Ainslie pushed out Hogh-Christiansen, then in 2nd, far enough to allow the another competitor (the Swede?) to insert himself in second position between Ainslie and H-C, then Ainslie scooted for the line. That showed incredible creativity, courage and judegement of distance. The spectators in Weymouth were looking at each other not quite believing their eyes that this was Ainslie's plan. They were thrilled when he pulled it off.

  • @youtubeyoutube936
    @youtubeyoutube936 Рік тому +32

    If I did that in club racing I’d be disqualified

    • @team3383
      @team3383 Рік тому +4

      When you have JP Asset Mgmt and a few lawyers with deep pockets ...

    • @mini696
      @mini696 Рік тому +6

      Because you have club racing officials who don't know the rules and judge on feelings.

    • @youtubeyoutube936
      @youtubeyoutube936 Рік тому

      Well they are RYA qualified inc some who do international events. Someone I worked with was in the same club as Ainslie. And even 20 years ago he was apparently a big headed @@@@@.

    • @kaspershaupt
      @kaspershaupt Рік тому

      @@mini696 no. because people dont want to put there boats expensive on the line

    • @user-oe1mb9hu9i
      @user-oe1mb9hu9i 2 дні тому

      That's why these guys do it. It's disgraceful the way they all sail and ram each other in match racing instead of avoiding the opponent and putting in a protest for the judges to rule on.
      I was a judge for junior regattas and I black flagged ANY boat that hit another if it was obvious that they were trying to press home a point that THEY had priority BUT that by steering correctly they could have avoided a collision.
      00:30 - Ainslie could easily have steered to port to avoid the collision and he knew it. He is aware of the boats speed and size and these are two identical yachts.
      I would have disqualified the idjut.
      He's a good sailor, as are many of the others, but also every bit of a spoiled brat.

  • @adamatch9624
    @adamatch9624 2 дні тому

    I find it funny how many people in the comments hating sail lasers? Even just club racing? Cause if you’re in a club where the sailors are good and competitive then you know that the rules are more important than your emotions.

  • @dl-yh5xs
    @dl-yh5xs Рік тому +11

    Thank you for posting this. Gives me a whole new perspective on the 'sportsman' sir Ben Ainslie. I agree with the comments below - disgraceful. Can't believe anyone applauds this kind of behaviour. What a poor role model.

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 11 днів тому

      Then dont watch rugby. it will make your hurty feelings even worse.

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 3 дні тому

      So you’re mad that he followed the rules and won?

  • @bobomac8330
    @bobomac8330 Рік тому +7

    Well, far more interesting than I thought

  • @lbbc33
    @lbbc33 2 дні тому

    This video is missing the disclaimer that is aim is educating sailors on what not to do

  • @augustschram
    @augustschram Рік тому +41

    I don't get it, why this behaviour is still praised and accepted by so many. I see a man, who is a victim of and reacts badly to the pressure he and his surrounding put on him.

    • @svfixerup
      @svfixerup Рік тому +10

      I agree, while being tactical at this level requires skill, bullying a competitor for more than 10 minuets, preventing him to even round the first mark while the entire field had done so more than 10-15 minutes previous and being forced into a penalty that resulted in your disqualification from the final Olympic race that you trained hard for and performed well enough to make it too by someone who had a loop hole to through away a bad race in the final is gut retching.

    • @jfmrod
      @jfmrod Рік тому +4

      This behavior is only praised by the fans of this guy, i.e.: the people who not being great sailors still hope they can win by
      exploiting race rules in creative ways that have nothing to do with the spirit of the sport. What is clear is everyone would stop being interested in regatta sailing if the winners were just better at annoying the competition than at actually sailing.

    • @pero2727
      @pero2727 Рік тому +7

      @@svfixerup that bullying requires an elite level of boat control, reading winds, distances and your opponent's next move. Very much more so than the level required to just win a race like that. If his opponent was a better sailor, he had dozens of opportunities to outsail him and finish ahead of him. He was not and ended up ramming Ainslie in frustration and forfeiting his race. The better sailor won the gold. Better sailor does not mean better man, but Olympic races are not about who the better man is.

    • @martinswift
      @martinswift Рік тому +1

      ​@@pero2727 You're right. Ainsley won the race according to the rules, but his general behaviour doesn't make him worth lauding. Newton was a genius but an awful person.
      Sure, Ben earnt the gold as he had lost it on prior occasions. Placing him on a metaphorical pedestal as a role model is, however, is of questionable merit.

    • @SabotPottery
      @SabotPottery Рік тому +1

      What a terrible way to win a race. It says everything about the character of the man.

  • @eddcosterton5531
    @eddcosterton5531 3 місяці тому +1

    Legend

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael Рік тому +9

    When lawyers go sailing.

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 11 днів тому

      They all use lawyers and it is because a huge amount of money is at stake.

  • @stephanguitar9778
    @stephanguitar9778 Рік тому +9

    Makes it far more entertaining for the spectators.

  • @matteobettuzzi4838
    @matteobettuzzi4838 Рік тому +13

    Then, humiliated by Luna Rossa A.C. 2021.

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 11 днів тому

      Still went home with a load of money.....

  • @ricellisfrost620
    @ricellisfrost620 Рік тому +17

    His aggression makes him dangerous on the water.
    The best skippers in the world are just good, they don't throw themselves around like this muppet

    • @dulls8475
      @dulls8475 11 днів тому +1

      In reality this muppet has beaten the best skippers who are just good.

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 3 дні тому

      He is the best laser sailor. What he did wasn’t dangerous and the fact you think it is shows you don’t sail lasers

  • @jameslittlewood7663
    @jameslittlewood7663 Рік тому +4

    That thing at the top mark in Atlanta was a totally clear cut port and starboard, with Ainsley on port at the moment of contact, and then gybing into the windward boat position. So, failure to give way twice.

    • @FastForwardSailing
      @FastForwardSailing  Рік тому +2

      I reckon Scheidt was in the wrong as although he was on starboard at the time of contact he gybed straight into Ainslie giving him no time an opportunity to keep clear. If I was sailing next to you on a downwind and we were both on port I couldn't gybe straight onto starboard and expect you to get out of the way in 1 second. You can see Ainslie steers to avoid very quickly.

    • @jfmrod
      @jfmrod Рік тому +7

      I have to say, Ainsley did a great job of showing that winning by any means doesn’t make you the better man, just the one that wasn’t good enough to win any other way.

    • @marcelotrannin322
      @marcelotrannin322 Рік тому

      @@jfmrod in other words, what a bad loser he is. Shame on you, Ben.

    • @michelamizzi9786
      @michelamizzi9786 Рік тому +1

      Maneuvering boat keep clear. Scheidt did not finish his gybe before Ainslie had to avoid.

    • @jfmrod
      @jfmrod Рік тому

      @@michelamizzi9786 Sure, Ainslie may have been strictly following the rules. Usually when rules are abused in a way that goes against the objective of the sport (to be the fastest sailor to complete a circuit), they need to be fixed (as I am sure it has happened many times before). In this case it is easy to argue that Scheidt did not expect Ainslie to turn into him since the mark was not downwind. If there is no rule about it being forbidden to hinder another even when you are going the complete opposite direction to the circuit, one should definitely be created. Unless you are trying to argue that this style of "winning" is what you would like to see in the future, in which case I suggest there should be different sets of sailing rules because I can't imagine many people find such type of sailing inspiring... except like I said, the ones that can't win by sailing alone and need to find other ways to win...

  • @myolalands
    @myolalands Рік тому

    Don't even ask him about the Dubai Final of the SailGP- what an absolute disaster!

  • @Badmansband
    @Badmansband Рік тому +6

    Where the F was Richard supposed to go? Teleport to the other side?

    • @team3383
      @team3383 Рік тому

      He could always of "GOT OUT OF THE WAY" ... He is the one that put himself in an unavoidable collision although it's very questionable as to why the judges let Ainslie (and al the others) chase as near as they do and create those situations.
      I believe there should always be more room between the boats but it makes for more agressive sailing.
      They could solve this by putting sensors on the hulls and telling the skippers to leave minimum 1metre (or an agreed distance, but shorter than 1/2 boat length) between themselves AT ALL TIMES.
      All this is doing is creating juniors at club lever !!!!!!! that already act as if they are Ainslie and simply run into each other running the opposition off the water.
      It's the sad result of TV and sponsors in sailing.

    • @Badmansband
      @Badmansband Рік тому

      @@team3383 he's not a fricken dog, he can't just scatter! He bore away. If he kept on turning down Ainslie wul have smacked him in the arse. Ainslie went straight at him. From that moment there was nowhere for Richard to go.

    • @pimpmytrade
      @pimpmytrade Рік тому +1

      @@Badmansband The rules only require that the stand on boat (Ainslie) leave room for the give way boat to maneuver out of the way without immediately causing a collision. In this case there were a good 2 or 3 seconds between Ainslie’s last course change and the collision. You could hear the crew telling Richards to come up and cross his bow to weather. He could have done that. He also could have ducked aggressively to avoid the collision or even gybed. In this case Ainslie left enough room. The protest was rightly upheld.

    • @Badmansband
      @Badmansband Рік тому

      @@pimpmytrade I understand the rules but I still don't believe Richards had anywhere else to go. Ainslie was responsible for the collision imo. I don't think Richards had enough time to keep clear.

  • @daijones101
    @daijones101 Рік тому +23

    What an unpleasant character

  • @frostysfreeway2320
    @frostysfreeway2320 Рік тому

    Massive skill. Rules the waves!!

  • @SoggyKatnip
    @SoggyKatnip Рік тому +1

    Shame jpn pulled out of sail gp

    • @FastForwardSailing
      @FastForwardSailing  Рік тому +2

      It is! They were my second fave team! Atleast Nathan is still racing

  • @josephwhite4043
    @josephwhite4043 Рік тому +18

    When you can’t sail faster slow the adversary and play dirty trick just like big old fat Dennis. Pretty sad to win like he does.

    • @sly6627
      @sly6627 Рік тому +11

      That way of thinking is why you have never won an Olympic gold medal.

    • @jimtheudb
      @jimtheudb Рік тому +5

      That's racing...

    • @Lozzie74
      @Lozzie74 Рік тому +7

      It’s not playing dirty. It’s using the rules to defeat your opponent and it takes great skill.

    • @jfmrod
      @jfmrod Рік тому +3

      @@Lozzie74 that’s why people fix the rules all the time, to close the loopholes exploited by people who care more about winning than the sport they are supposed to be doing.

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 Рік тому +2

      @@sly6627 "That way of thinking is why you have never won an Olympic gold medal."
      If that is what I had to do to win an Olympic gold medal, then the Olympic Gold medal is not worth winning.
      Win clean and fair, or all you have is a gold plated disk on a string.

  • @bassboatboy
    @bassboatboy Рік тому +9

    All this is what ruins yacht racing for me. If only it was just about getting around a course quicker than everyone else, taking into account tides, wind shifts etc.

    • @pero2727
      @pero2727 Рік тому +3

      What you are talking about is called cruising, not racing.
      I say; put a swivel gun on the bow to make the race more interesting.

  • @sagamauga8074
    @sagamauga8074 Рік тому

    And now🤣

  • @mayhewfisher62
    @mayhewfisher62 Рік тому

    Huh! Never knew sailing was a contact sport!

  • @winterroadspokenword4681
    @winterroadspokenword4681 2 дні тому

    It’s a disgusting decision tbh. Maybe it was legal. But clearly immoral and not in the bounds of fair racing.

  • @justlovelyaintit
    @justlovelyaintit 5 днів тому

    Bakboord!😂

  • @arron620
    @arron620 22 дні тому

    Robert Shite

  • @simonpickering2665
    @simonpickering2665 Рік тому

    The guy should be nick named “Ankles” ….

  • @simonhodgkinson1972
    @simonhodgkinson1972 День тому

    Tool

  • @Fish-sx5to
    @Fish-sx5to 3 місяці тому +1

    wtf is this picture quality

  • @aN-uk7qn
    @aN-uk7qn 2 місяці тому +1

    He's definitely never learned "sports man ship" at all. His behaviors are totally unpleasant things ever. I believe most of people who have been praising his behaviors are completely forgot the fundamental polisy of sailing as "SPORTS" on RRS. He or someone like him should read and know more about RRS's basic principles. Of course, I know he is the one of the best, at least for the technique on sailing, sailer though.

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 2 дні тому

      He follows the rules. That’s what matters. If you win and follow the rules that’s all that matters, losers will always be mad when they can’t just do as they like

  • @therickpound
    @therickpound Рік тому

    Lol, rules of the road…no one likes a Sunday driver.

  • @UnkleSi
    @UnkleSi Рік тому +2

    What an unpleasant guy

  • @engvej763
    @engvej763 Рік тому +2

    What a disgrace

  • @therickpound
    @therickpound Рік тому

    It’s just not cricket old chap…

  • @seanbevan7
    @seanbevan7 Рік тому

    Alpha male or Muppet as it used to be called.

  • @damianborkowski7429
    @damianborkowski7429 Рік тому

    Both guys act quite unsporty

  • @timbear641
    @timbear641 Рік тому +1

    So he's just a bad sportsman I get it don't watch any ⛵ sport

  • @AUmarcus
    @AUmarcus 5 днів тому

    Slingsby makes this bloke look like an amateur. 🇭🇲🦘😆👍

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 3 дні тому

      Ooooohh aren’t you a wee upset kiwi