That 10" + battery & power cord is a game changer... Portability + unlimited power. The ability to cut a 4x4 in one pass will save me so much time and money. 😎😎
It's great to see someone taking notes from Hitachi with the batter + AC adapter. All of the battery saws should have an AC adapter available IMO. Love the LED on the fence too. The fold out wing on the 8'' is awesome as well. Really digging what they are doing with this.
Founders warranty plus new saw? Hell Yeah!! I hope they have some kind of rolling stand coming out cause I want that 10" saw in my possession ASAP...Brad nailer coming out too? Flex isn't messing around, can't wait to see more goodies from them.
You said it correctly "FLEX is killing it" 3 years voila 2 table saws. I was told is the summer FLEX have 4 new cues in their system. 2 for the 2 new table saws and 2 for miter saws, there is a 12" in the cue but second one i am not sure. Yes FLEX is killing it.
Yes the 10 inch for sure when Tim was showing a blade I saw how long it was. Miller Construction will be doing a review today or tomorrow and I am sure that Information will be included
Nice video. Sure look powerful and well-designed. Don't have any Flex (happy with HPT and Dewalt and others) but these saws and the current Acme deals on Flex grinder and drill kits are very tempting. Any thoughts on the Flex 24v grinder compared to the latest HPT 36v grinders? Thanks and Merry Christmas.
I've been using the Flex variable speed die grinder and 5" angle grinder. Imo their not the best but the best bang for your buck. I'm milwaukee verbal speed die grinder is $250 - $300 bare tool. I picked up the Flex variable die grinder, 5" angle grinder and turbo drill, (2) 5 amp, (1) 3.5 stacked lithium for $400.
In our opinion, DeWalt FlexVolt grinders are probably still top of the heap, but they are still pretty expensive, especially FlexVolt batteries. HPT 36V grinders are pretty impressive, but I think the FLEX is right up there with them. The FLEX warranty is definitely better. I would probably have to decide based on price. Thanks for watching.
any idea of the length of both saws being that Chervon makes these saws and the skil TS6370 wondering if either fence from one of these would fit the skil
I would say that the up to 3 battery replacement is actually pretty fair. I have only had to replace 2 of my batteries (which were my original batteries when I got them in 2020). I haven’t had a battery just die or not work. I see it as spend $230 (6 Ah stacked lithium) get $690 worth of batteries over the lifetime
@@KalanYTRockthe batteries still work. I just used the warranty because of the therma gel leaking but the batteries still work great. All it is is an advancement on my batteries. And also with your logic if you have a battery that last for 10+ years and you get up to 3 replacement wouldn’t that mean you have about 30 years worth of a life off those 3 replacement batteries. I would also say that having batteries for that long probably means they aren’t working the same as they used to as far as efficiency and the technology is also changing too. I’m not trying to start some kind of argument, all I was saying is the value of the up to 3 replacement batteries is not that bad. I’m a fan of Flex and like what they do. Definitely better than most companies out there
@@Billy_bSLAYER I’m not sure what the question is. All batteries have recharge life or charge cycles and the more you use and recharge them they eventually won’t hold a charge.
Maybe I missed it, but can either model handle a dado stack? Any idea how much HP each one puts out? Would love to throw the Amana Blu 40T blade on it, but those need like 2 HP motors.
@@asus9596No really. Also you should be able to use it on the power tools too. That would make sense. Messing around home and your battery’s aren’t charged or you don’t feel draining one. Unless it’s $200+. Having an option at least is way better than not having one at all. Makes me regret starting my tool collection with Milwaukee instead of Flex. I’d gladly buy one if Milwaukee had an option.
Was that a 12 ah battery you were using?? Only asking cause Ohio power tool told me those were being discontinued, (had four of them on clearance) curious if they are coming out with a battery bigger than a 12 with this saw
I'm curious if they're re-engineering their batteries a little? The powerstacks all have an advertised watt output and I noticed that the newer 6 Ah and 10 Ah batteries are actually advertising higher than the older 8 Ah and 12 Ah batteries respectively.
With the forge the table saw is a beast and with the 12 also i am not sure about the lack of power you mentioned perhaps the wrong battery @@rickyperkins232
@@OUTILSCLIPSQCI have seen this for myself however Finished Carpentry did a comparison between Milwaukee and DeWalt but at that point there wasn't any Forge battery. i used only 12 amp hour Milwaukee battery and was very disappointed.
@@TheWoodGuy69I was thinking about using the FLEX ssd's Stack Pack work surface FX1401 to attach my FLEX miter saw when it comes in, just not sure how to yet.
@rickyperkins232 dude I convinced my boss to do that with is dewalt miter saw cuz he's got the dewalt tough system and it fits great! I'm hoping that flex actually makes a miter saw mount for stack pack when they come out with it
I was a little bit of a hater at first. But I will admit I was wrong. I currently own the variable speed die grinder, 5" variable speed angle grinder and the Turbo hammer drill. I picked all 3 of them up from acme tools with 4 batteries for $400. I am now a believer. I still own Milwaukee Bosch and a few Dewalt tools. I'm definitely getting rid of the Dewalt tools. But i'm keeping the rest
@@yorselrus1996 For me, in the beginning there was absolutely no rhyme or reason for a FLEX 12 amp hour lithium ion battery. Up until this saw what's the purpose, so silly me bought a few batteries and the insanely 500 watt fast charger then came the 3 year waiting period. I figured they had all intention of making a table voila.........3 years later the table saw is here. I know there is 2 more cues in FLEX customer service for miter saws, one is a 12" miter saw. Needless to say my impatient waiting will pay off.
@@yorselrus1996 by the way now that you have the grinder for a while would you still recommend it? I just literally bought one from Lowes waiting for a pick up date.
WOW Flex copied the Metabo HTP 10 inch table saw it rips 4x4s but it has a 35 inch rip capacity not a 25 inch like the Flex .. its not first and the are not breaking new Ground and I bet the Metabo has more power and longer run time and wow Metabo was also the first to offer a corded solution for there cordless tools ............nothing new
I had the metabo hpt 10 inch. First off the fence was bowed. The saw was heavy the rack and pinion was built different then other brands it has a little play. I had to buy another corded table saw trade out the fence because they said I had to return the table saw they wouldn't send me a replacement fence. I had to wait 2 months for it to come in after order. It burned batteries in about 1 min a battery. My cheap 100 dollar kobalt table saw is much better the cordless metabo table saw. Flex is a much better brand product and the warrenty is much better. Almost everyone of ny netabo tools has broken aone have not cone back from warrent y service and it's been months. I live in hawaii. When I make flex claims they handle it with in 1 week. Flex is the only reason I'm still doing construction. I like there power the batteries are the best by miles, the colors as well my tools don't look like hamnered shit after couple years of use. All my other tools look like skid row after a week
I own the metabio I Call BS on you 4 yeas been using it on the job site every day no issues at all the battery's last 45 -1 hour on average it rips the 8 foot LVL he get for our stair stringer no issues handles the weight I bought the metabo rolling stand for it that they sell with there Corded version .. but 4 years no issues runs fine cuts perfect every time ........ hands down the best cordless table saw on the market in my opinion and I have been a Carpenter longer than you have been alive more than likely .. we had the dewalt its in the garbage no We have the Milwaukee but its been in for repair 2 times now ....... and we will see I will buy that Flex and see how it works and give a honest on the job Review with a professional Construction company Environment we will see if it like there Skill saws or there drills we got then I do not have High hopes for it got them both and they did not last the week before they where toast ... they had lots of power but can not handle the work environment every day use on a Construction site @@themacsho
@@themacsho This guy is a leftover FLEX hater/Naysayers that despise every word Barnaby and Mike the plumber said. He believes that if Ford makes a full size pick up truck then Toyota Chevrolet and Dodge shouldn't Flex has one of the best warranty in the industry Maybe a little less than Hilti who has the absolute best
@@SaveTheSunF1R3x I listen to the entire video just now again but I didn't hear Tim mentioned "FLEX being first with an electric adopter" however I will agree that Metabo HPT had an electric power adapter many years ago, no dispute there.
I am predicting a future exchange of $750 for the 10" table saw in my possession as soon as it hits the shelves. I have being waiting 3 years for this table saw while make due with my Mafell track saw and my garbage Kobalt table saw having to deal with that horrible and inaccurate fence. A saw i had to pick up in a pinch several years ago. I wanted a great cordless table saw in 10" Milwaukee and Festool seemed to be the two best contenders. I wasn't impressed with the under power of Milwaukee. Festool foot print is just ridiculously too small. Oky so I also considered DeWalt but to my surprise one would think with their 60 volt flex volt batteries there it would be undeniable power galore but it was just a bad as the Milwaukee version. When FLEX came out one thing that seemed to evade all the tool commentators was the fact that they made a gigantic oversize 24 volt 12 amp hour battery that was inappropriate for all the tools they introduced. That was when i realized FLEX was serious about this platform and there was many many more tools in the making to fill the gap. So i bought a total of two 12 amp hour batteries and impatiently waited for a 10" table saw and a 12" miter saw. Without having either saws I just know these two tools will not let me down. At this point i am waiting for the Naysayers BS.
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That 10" + battery & power cord is a game changer... Portability + unlimited power. The ability to cut a 4x4 in one pass will save me so much time and money. 😎😎
Can't wait to see what they come up with for a miter saw
It's great to see someone taking notes from Hitachi with the batter + AC adapter. All of the battery saws should have an AC adapter available IMO. Love the LED on the fence too. The fold out wing on the 8'' is awesome as well. Really digging what they are doing with this.
Founders warranty plus new saw? Hell Yeah!! I hope they have some kind of rolling stand coming out cause I want that 10" saw in my possession ASAP...Brad nailer coming out too? Flex isn't messing around, can't wait to see more goodies from them.
Barnaby and Mike the plumber was on to something when they said FLEX is the best.
TIM YOUR THE MAN TO GET IT FIRST AWESOME
Thank you very much. We aim to please. Thanks for watching.
Looks an amazing saw. Kick the arse of my dewalt flexvolt. Having main cord sounds like a win.
That cord accessory I heard will cost around $200.
Can’t wait for their miter saw or a chop saw would be great
They already have 2 cues for 2 Sliding miter saws and one is a 12"
We may see those very soon ;).
The power of the two saws is insane I want the 10" ASAP don't mind the Price
I am getting the 10" for sure, need that maximum cutting capacity
Great review and I am impressed with the design with this table saw.
Founders warranty is extended till the end of 2024 and 30 days to register for it. Saw the new signage at my local Lowe’s 👍🏼
Hell yeah
That is correct.
I'd seen it but I thought it was for 2023 didn't know it extended until 20:24 this is good cause I was trying to buy all these tools before 2024.
I'm definitely picking up the 10 when available.
Same here
We can't argue with that.
sounds excellent. Will like to see runtime for sure, esp compared to using cut sense. also, is there a diff in power when plugged in.
You said it correctly "FLEX is killing it" 3 years voila 2 table saws. I was told is the summer FLEX have 4 new cues in their system. 2 for the 2 new table saws and 2 for miter saws, there is a 12" in the cue but second one i am not sure. Yes FLEX is killing it.
It will be interesting to see what's in the hopper. Thanks for watching.
Any chance you’ll be getting your hands on FLEX’s new 1/2” and 3/4” high torques to test out?
Very impressive!
I second that
It is quite impressive.
Do we know if the two saws accepts a dado stack and if so the sizing?
Yes the 10 inch for sure when Tim was showing a blade I saw how long it was. Miller Construction will be doing a review today or tomorrow and I am sure that Information will be included
My favorite tape measure
It's hard to go wrong with a Lufkin. Thanks for watching.
Nice video. Sure look powerful and well-designed. Don't have any Flex (happy with HPT and Dewalt and others) but these saws and the current Acme deals on Flex grinder and drill kits are very tempting. Any thoughts on the Flex 24v grinder compared to the latest HPT 36v grinders? Thanks and Merry Christmas.
I've been using the Flex variable speed die grinder and 5" angle grinder. Imo their not the best but the best bang for your buck. I'm milwaukee verbal speed die grinder is $250 - $300 bare tool. I picked up the Flex variable die grinder, 5" angle grinder and turbo drill, (2) 5 amp, (1) 3.5 stacked lithium for $400.
@@yorselrus1996 Thanks for the detailed reply, much appreciated.
Metabo hpt has couple good tools. But the quality is much higher on flex tools.
@@themacsho Thabks for the input, I'll check Flex out.
In our opinion, DeWalt FlexVolt grinders are probably still top of the heap, but they are still pretty expensive, especially FlexVolt batteries. HPT 36V grinders are pretty impressive, but I think the FLEX is right up there with them. The FLEX warranty is definitely better. I would probably have to decide based on price. Thanks for watching.
any idea of the length of both saws being that Chervon makes these saws and the skil TS6370 wondering if either fence from one of these would fit the skil
More likely skil saw SPT99 and SPT99T still looking more information 😢 so far no official update yet
I like it. Thank. I want the big boy for sure..
So did I hear him say that the founders warranty as extended and do i understand there is a 90 day vs. a 30 day registration time?
It is extended to 2024, but it is a 30-year registration window. Thanks for watching.
!!!IT'S TIM JOHNSON!!!
90 days to register increased from 30, and another year of founders?? If only they did more than 3 battery replacement limit..
I hope that's what I'm hearing
I would say that the up to 3 battery replacement is actually pretty fair. I have only had to replace 2 of my batteries (which were my original batteries when I got them in 2020). I haven’t had a battery just die or not work. I see it as spend $230 (6 Ah stacked lithium) get $690 worth of batteries over the lifetime
@@KalanYTRockthe batteries still work. I just used the warranty because of the therma gel leaking but the batteries still work great. All it is is an advancement on my batteries. And also with your logic if you have a battery that last for 10+ years and you get up to 3 replacement wouldn’t that mean you have about 30 years worth of a life off those 3 replacement batteries. I would also say that having batteries for that long probably means they aren’t working the same as they used to as far as efficiency and the technology is also changing too. I’m not trying to start some kind of argument, all I was saying is the value of the up to 3 replacement batteries is not that bad. I’m a fan of Flex and like what they do. Definitely better than most companies out there
@@ferndogg84I have 24 m18 batteries and 16 m12 and never have one fail since the beginning.... What should the failure be??
@@Billy_bSLAYER I’m not sure what the question is. All batteries have recharge life or charge cycles and the more you use and recharge them they eventually won’t hold a charge.
Runtime doesn't matter, it is how much linear board feet it can cut.
Maybe I missed it, but can either model handle a dado stack?
Any idea how much HP each one puts out?
Would love to throw the Amana Blu 40T blade on it, but those need like 2 HP motors.
I think it was wise of FLEX to release these 2 table saws. Especially if DeWalt has
3 of them that I'm aware of, 2 corded, and 1 cordless FlexVolt..
Holy !!!
This is a good thing for all carpenters
It's a beast! Thanks for watching.
I guess I'll be replacing my Milwaukee now lol
It's definitely a powerful saw. Thanks for watching.
My Kobalt table saw is out of here.
Milwaukeee trash anyways. They can't even keep up with dewalts woodworking tools.
Would I have to purchase the ac adaptor separately?
Unfortunately I think we will have to purchase it separately another way for FLEX to make some money
Yes, the AC adapter is sold separately.
@@Shoptoolreviews thanks for the clarification. 👎🏼 to Flex for not including that with the saw though.
@@asus9596 Not everyone will want that power adapter however for those who want it they will not mind paying for it so FLEX can make some money
@@asus9596No really. Also you should be able to use it on the power tools too. That would make sense. Messing around home and your battery’s aren’t charged or you don’t feel draining one. Unless it’s $200+. Having an option at least is way better than not having one at all. Makes me regret starting my tool collection with Milwaukee instead of Flex. I’d gladly buy one if Milwaukee had an option.
Was that a 12 ah battery you were using?? Only asking cause Ohio power tool told me those were being discontinued, (had four of them on clearance) curious if they are coming out with a battery bigger than a 12 with this saw
I bought 2 of those 12 AM hour battery 3 years ago in anticipation of this saw and a miter saw
I'm curious if they're re-engineering their batteries a little? The powerstacks all have an advertised watt output and I noticed that the newer 6 Ah and 10 Ah batteries are actually advertising higher than the older 8 Ah and 12 Ah batteries respectively.
@@djgibbs7041 what is the difference? I never really noticed.
Hummm nevermind i'll stick with my m18 😁👍 best table saw yet
M18 unless you a running 1/8" plywood very under powered. I am exaggerating but Milwaukee needs to revisit the power department on there saw.
The M18 is a worthy saw, and we my do some comparisons very soon. Thanks for watching.
With the forge the table saw is a beast and with the 12 also i am not sure about the lack of power you mentioned perhaps the wrong battery @@rickyperkins232
@@OUTILSCLIPSQCI have seen this for myself however Finished Carpentry did a comparison between Milwaukee and DeWalt but at that point there wasn't any Forge battery. i used only 12 amp hour Milwaukee battery and was very disappointed.
@@Shoptoolreviews We would welcome that
I'm kind of surprised theres no stackpack compatibility
That's a real good idea man
@@rickyperkins232 thanks man! I have those from time to time
@@TheWoodGuy69I was thinking about using the FLEX ssd's Stack Pack work surface FX1401 to attach my FLEX miter saw when it comes in, just not sure how to yet.
@rickyperkins232 dude I convinced my boss to do that with is dewalt miter saw cuz he's got the dewalt tough system and it fits great! I'm hoping that flex actually makes a miter saw mount for stack pack when they come out with it
Finally 👏👏
3 years impatiently waiting
We hear you. Thanks for watching.
Is this a cordless version of the Skil 10" table saw?
I think it is a scaled down version of the Skil worm drive saw but very good.
Very similar. ;) Thanks for watching.
Skil tools are as thoughtful as flex tools.
They are owned by one company so 😂
Engineering on this ones went crazy
It's a powerful saw. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews great video, super eloquent, keep it going!
@@rulowth4815I got more than I was expecting on this saw I wonder what the miter saw will offer
@@rickyperkins232 FLEX is killing it
@@rulowth4815No joke there is 2 more cues for 2 miter saws and I am getting the 12"
When is this going to be released?
I'm disappointed that my Lowe's doesn't sell these table saws.
They should be able to order them for you.
Are they extending the founders warranty through 2024? Everything I see still says 12/31/23
That's what I thought too
Extending to 2024 as well.
@@Shoptoolreviews that’s awesome!
Their both very nice saws, except I don't see any way of locking out the power switch that's an important feature if you have small children
Where is all the haters and Naysayers, Barnabie and Mike the plumber got your tongues?
I was a little bit of a hater at first. But I will admit I was wrong. I currently own the variable speed die grinder, 5" variable speed angle grinder and the Turbo hammer drill. I picked all 3 of them up from acme tools with 4 batteries for $400. I am now a believer. I still own Milwaukee Bosch and a few Dewalt tools. I'm definitely getting rid of the Dewalt tools.
But i'm keeping the rest
Are you talking about barnabie from True and the rainbow kingdom, lol
@@yorselrus1996 For me, in the beginning there was absolutely no rhyme or reason for a FLEX 12 amp hour lithium ion battery. Up until this saw what's the purpose, so silly me bought a few batteries and the insanely 500 watt fast charger then came the 3 year waiting period. I figured they had all intention of making a table voila.........3 years later the table saw is here. I know there is 2 more cues in FLEX customer service for miter saws, one is a 12" miter saw. Needless to say my impatient waiting will pay off.
@@yorselrus1996 by the way now that you have the grinder for a while would you still recommend it? I just literally bought one from Lowes waiting for a pick up date.
@@yorselrus1996 I like that
Sheeeeeshh, that FX7221 is 🤌💯
Sheeeeeeshh I am a going to have one of them there 10" cutting saws.
She's a bute, for sure. Thanks for watching.
No built in stand. Add another couple a hundred unless you like working on the ground.
Don’t think their price is right as the Dewalt 10’ is like 580 with the stand. They want 580 for bare tool.
Too much duplicate information, try to keep it simple and informative, some information is very obvious.
Thanks for watching.
WOW Flex copied the Metabo HTP 10 inch table saw it rips 4x4s but it has a 35 inch rip capacity not a 25 inch like the Flex .. its not first and the are not breaking new Ground and I bet the Metabo has more power and longer run time and wow Metabo was also the first to offer a corded solution for there cordless tools ............nothing new
I had the metabo hpt 10 inch. First off the fence was bowed. The saw was heavy the rack and pinion was built different then other brands it has a little play. I had to buy another corded table saw trade out the fence because they said I had to return the table saw they wouldn't send me a replacement fence. I had to wait 2 months for it to come in after order. It burned batteries in about 1 min a battery. My cheap 100 dollar kobalt table saw is much better the cordless metabo table saw. Flex is a much better brand product and the warrenty is much better. Almost everyone of ny netabo tools has broken aone have not cone back from warrent y service and it's been months. I live in hawaii. When I make flex claims they handle it with in 1 week. Flex is the only reason I'm still doing construction. I like there power the batteries are the best by miles, the colors as well my tools don't look like hamnered shit after couple years of use. All my other tools look like skid row after a week
I own the metabio I Call BS on you 4 yeas been using it on the job site every day no issues at all the battery's last 45 -1 hour on average it rips the 8 foot LVL he get for our stair stringer no issues handles the weight I bought the metabo rolling stand for it that they sell with there Corded version .. but 4 years no issues runs fine cuts perfect every time ........ hands down the best cordless table saw on the market in my opinion and I have been a Carpenter longer than you have been alive more than likely .. we had the dewalt its in the garbage no We have the Milwaukee but its been in for repair 2 times now ....... and we will see I will buy that Flex and see how it works and give a honest on the job Review with a professional Construction company Environment we will see if it like there Skill saws or there drills we got then I do not have High hopes for it got them both and they did not last the week before they where toast ... they had lots of power but can not handle the work environment every day use on a Construction site @@themacsho
@@themacsho This guy is a leftover FLEX hater/Naysayers that despise every word Barnaby and Mike the plumber said. He believes that if Ford makes a full size pick up truck then Toyota Chevrolet and Dodge shouldn't
Flex has one of the best warranty in the industry Maybe a little less than Hilti who has the absolute best
@@rickyperkins232 the issue was they claimed to be the first which is simply untrue. the metabo saw has been out a pretty long time at this point.
@@SaveTheSunF1R3x I listen to the entire video just now again but I didn't hear Tim mentioned "FLEX being first with an electric adopter" however I will agree that Metabo HPT had an electric power adapter many years ago, no dispute there.
Flex Tool wannabe dewalt tools it’s a Dewalt tablesaw with a flex name on it 😂 biting off dewalt D-k
I am predicting a future exchange of $750 for the 10" table saw in my possession as soon as it hits the shelves.
I have being waiting 3 years for this table saw while make due with my Mafell track saw and my garbage Kobalt table saw having to deal with that horrible and inaccurate fence. A saw i had to pick up in a pinch several years ago.
I wanted a great cordless table saw in 10" Milwaukee and Festool seemed to be the two best contenders. I wasn't impressed with the under power of Milwaukee. Festool foot print is just ridiculously too small. Oky so I also considered DeWalt but to my surprise one would think with their 60 volt flex volt batteries there it would be undeniable power galore but it was just a bad as the Milwaukee version.
When FLEX came out one thing that seemed to evade all the tool commentators was the fact that they made a gigantic oversize 24 volt 12 amp hour battery that was inappropriate for all the tools they introduced. That was when i realized FLEX was serious about this platform and there was many many more tools in the making to fill the gap. So i bought a total of two 12 amp hour batteries and impatiently waited for a 10" table saw and a 12" miter saw. Without having either saws I just know these two tools will not let me down. At this point i am waiting for the Naysayers BS.
Man take look skil saw miter saw I think that’s what flex miter saw will look like
@@Everythingisnotnewonly better
@@EverythingisnotnewI took your advice and I hope the style of design is not like that but more like Festool and Mikita.
@@rickyperkins232 ua-cam.com/users/live1n_N7kF3BOg?si=kPFkkwwkb0kOAeo7 man I told you they just use skillsaw blueprints and do some mod