Oh... You weren't a fan of Trump in 2016??? Like Ben wasn't??? I'm starting to understand why you didn't show evidence to anything you said about Ben... I dislike Ben, I can actually list out reasons why I don't like Ben... The fact that he doesn't believe the establishment doesn't exist, the fact that he supports bush's policies including the war ones till this day ( although he can defend the hell out of it and you would be made out to be the idiot but saying he's right Because of that would just be a fallacy fallacy), I didn't like how supported the ban of those students supporting hamas quite loudly and openly with no filter or sugar coat, something I'm sure you would have sided with him on, I just say let them speak and destroy their reputation, I don't like how he tries to look unbiased on the terms of the left and center left as if their standards matter but that's him using the moderate, independent, nonpartisan and centrist model, I don't like how he still keeps bashing the Jan 6 rioters till now and behaves like the only horrible treatment the left has been doing against them is just calling them insurrectionists and blaming Trump for it, I don't like how he whole heartedly believes the election of 2020 was free and fair and as clean as possible when all evidence shows it's not even close, I don't like how he keeps attacking the tate brothers for what they did in the past and I don't even like the tates that much, I don't like how he simped heavily for Ron de santis, it was effing creepy, I don't like how he defended Nikki from vivek and saw vivek as being irrelevant and childish and not presidential because he attacked the leading runner on the debate stage back then, Nikki Haley, I don't like how vivek effectively disappeared from his show afterwards and wasn't even mentioned when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, I don't like how he wants candidates to be presidential like good ol times, so basically a donor robot which is why he doesn't like Trump and vivek, I don't like when he cozies up to leftists and throws Maga under the bus ( he's actually not Maga and he has indirectly but awarely stated that already) just so he can seem like the unbiased republican whose voice should be considered serious to the centrists, moderates, apolitical, independent, nonpartisan and the left, yes, the left, he does that towards the left sometimes, he gives those groups a benefit of the doubt way way more than he gives to the right... As you can see, I don't like many things about Shapiro and unlike you, I can actually mention couple of what I don't like about him... You just don't like him because it's popular to not like him from right wing political entertainment pundits who are just angry because he's successful or they think he's an easy target to also look unbiased to the left to try to get more subscribers because that's their primary goal... Ben Shapiro and the daily wire as done way more for the right wing and defeated the left wing and converted more left wingers to centrist and right positions than all these pundits combined and I'm not even being hyperbolic, so please don't come up with a caricature because of out of context tweets of him you managed to catch when they went viral out of context... Grow the fuck up dude, this isn't a game...
@@smallestgoober9399 Only when a Democrat is in office *loud whizzing of drones going into the Middle East* Obama: that was just a swarm of wasps MSNBC, please continue showering me with praise.
@@coltonwilkie241 I 'member I actually started watching Destiny during the Kyle Rittenhouse saga, so the fact he was fighting with lefties made him seem way more intelligent and better looking than he actually is
He also got smoked by Nick Fuentes on the F&F podcast. Nick stumped him completely on Israel not being our ally in the Iraq war and failing to assist us in any meaningful way during the invasion. (The point was to prove we fought for small hats and they didn't help us at all) Destiny was stumbling and attempting to get his chat to help him out of a precarious position after he flat out denied Nick's claims and Nick proved it almost immediately that Destiny was doing nothing but speaking from a place of ignorance. It was so satisfying watching that thin-wristed pissant get smoked Live. Then the thing with Mileena happened like a few months later. Just absolute dogwater human lol
I mean, his wife let him sleep around, too. He wasn’t upset she “cheated”, it was that she was lying. I’m not defending him or his lifestyle, but I never really understand the digs at his marriage. Plenty of tradcons have relationships end, too
I dont understand why people treat Destiny with any sort of respect or credence. He's just a millennial internet debatebro. Addendum: I will also point out that Shapiro was also an anti-Trumper, so this debate panel is a _biiiiiiiiit_ skewed.
He's an e-celeb who made the popular format of playing games and then talking politics. So he basically invented the online equivalent of the old salons.
The answer is simple: the vaush effects. When you stick two insane people in a room together the one that devietes ever so slightly to sanity looks sane. With regards to Destiny and Vaush. Vaush was having insane takes like "We should use the bad guy tactics from 1984". Destiny said that's bad and the entire internet thought Destiny was a centrist. Even though the guy is full of many insane takes. The right was so use to people vouching for their deaths that when a guy came along that only wanted to subjugate them they thought he was some sort of liberator. Now that the slightly more insane person is gone people can clearly see how insane the other person is. The left wing equivalent of this would be Ben Sharperio debating Nick Fuentes and a bunch of leftists wing people thinking that Ben is now a "centist".
What about an open politics relationship? You are accountable to your politicians, but they are not accountable to you. And if they don't like you, they can import other voters and explore their relationship with them. Oh, wait!
Its painful to see him talk about Trump demonizing his opponents when trump has been demonized ever since he announced he would run for president in 2016. I remember someone telling me "i dont care who you vote for, but remember Trump is a fascist" and i remember my young self being so confused 1) because i saw no evidence and none was provided. 2) how can you claim that one candidate is a fascist and then claim that you dont care who i vote for. 3) if you dont care who i vote for. Why even throw that out there?
I remember at my school there was a teacher going around to different classes gathering up all the senior students who would be able to vote by election month so she could get them to vote against trump. Didn’t explain why, all she said is that he was racist and we couldn’t let him win. It was Eye opening for me to see that from an educator.
Marriage is the absolute subject Destiny will be wiped the floor with regardless of who debates him. Hope he sees that an open marriage is NOT a marriage.
Oi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy... And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong... He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars... Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back??? I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
Yes. Leftist media has painted him in such a way that they've said "If you don't despise him like we do you're a bigot" And wonder why things are more divisive than ever.
He's "more divisive than Biden" if you listen to the media so yes. Meanwhile Biden has literally called 71 million+ voting Americans extremists, dangerous, and all kinds of other crap. Trump has always kept his rhetoric strictly to those in power. Never the little guy no matter the side. I suppose you could consider that divisive between the rulers and the population depending on which side of that you identify with.
Oi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy... And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong... He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars... Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back??? I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
Hes like that person you met thats really high energy , talks a lot..at first they are amusing, then you figure out they are an empty shell. And wish you had never met them
@@Aristocratic_UtensilOh... You weren't a fan of Trump in 2016??? Like Ben wasn't??? I'm starting to understand why you didn't show evidence to anything you said about Ben... I dislike Ben, I can actually list out reasons why I don't like Ben... The fact that he doesn't believe the establishment doesn't exist, the fact that he supports bush's policies including the war ones till this day ( although he can defend the hell out of it and you would be made out to be the idiot but saying he's right Because of that would just be a fallacy fallacy), I didn't like how supported the ban of those students supporting hamas quite loudly and openly with no filter or sugar coat, something I'm sure you would have sided with him on, I just say let them speak and destroy their reputation, I don't like how he tries to look unbiased on the terms of the left and center left as if their standards matter but that's him using the moderate, independent, nonpartisan and centrist model, I don't like how he still keeps bashing the Jan 6 rioters till now and behaves like the only horrible treatment the left has been doing against them is just calling them insurrectionists and blaming Trump for it, I don't like how he whole heartedly believes the election of 2020 was free and fair and as clean as possible when all evidence shows it's not even close, I don't like how he keeps attacking the tate brothers for what they did in the past and I don't even like the tates that much, I don't like how he simped heavily for Ron de santis, it was effing creepy, I don't like how he defended Nikki from vivek and saw vivek as being irrelevant and childish and not presidential because he attacked the leading runner on the debate stage back then, Nikki Haley, I don't like how vivek effectively disappeared from his show afterwards and wasn't even mentioned when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, I don't like how he wants candidates to be presidential like good ol times, so basically a donor robot which is why he doesn't like Trump and vivek, I don't like when he cozies up to leftists and throws Maga under the bus ( he's actually not Maga and he has indirectly but awarely stated that already) just so he can seem like the unbiased republican whose voice should be considered serious to the centrists, moderates, apolitical, independent, nonpartisan and the left, yes, the left, he does that towards the left sometimes, he gives those groups a benefit of the doubt way way more than he gives to the right... As you can see, I don't like many things about Shapiro and unlike you, I can actually mention couple of what I don't like about him... You just don't like him because it's popular to not like him from right wing political entertainment pundits who are just angry because he's successful or they think he's an easy target to also look unbiased to the left to try to get more subscribers because that's their primary goal... Ben Shapiro and the daily wire as done way more for the right wing and defeated the left wing and converted more left wingers to centrist and right positions than all these pundits combined and I'm not even being hyperbolic, so please don't come up with a caricature because of out of context tweets of him you managed to catch when they went viral out of context... Grow the fuck up dude, this isn't a game...
@@Aristocratic_Utensil and there we go, now you reveal yourself as a midwit... Like an actual midwit... You realize you have no point so you go to fallacies... You screamed about dev, Adam and stitch lying about you and went on a bender but you do it for someone else after admitting to me in the comment section of another video that you only know him from passing tweets and someone tries to correct you about it and you answer with this... You're worst than dev because he at least tries to defend his BS, you just go straight to insults... I guess it's my fault... I've supported way more than I have gone against you but it looks like you want an echo chamber and not an exchange of ideas... You're an hypocrite... You gave no reason for your claims of Shapiro for me to even reference, you just want us to just believe you because you said so... Pray tell, what then makes you way of thinking different from the left???
He said "kids should have access to puberty blockers and hormones, even if they have to get them from unregulated sources" Which was all I needed to know about him. We have an irreconcilable difference of opinion which I won't budge an inch to compromise on
I watched destiny once and tealized almost immediately that he was a pseudo intellectual. In that video he just talked fast, diddnt refute any points without constructing an argument for his opponent. He is skilled in sophistry and thats it.
@NEprimo no, I don't debate lawyers or sophist. They are expert liars that will spin language to win arguments. They don't use facts . Destiny also believes that it's All right to have 2 conflicting moral systems so he can flip flop to whichever one is convenient for him at the time. The last reason, if he started doing that it would be really hard for me no to use his mail order bride cucking him to attack him and not his argument lol.
@@NEprimoNo. Debates are an insincere means of conversation that relies more on trickery rather than conceptual ideas and facts. You are better off learning from literally anything else besides debates.
That is something I was thinking about. Sure, Trump attacks his political opponents on either side of the political aisle (which I think is ultimately a good thing), but I'm not sure he's ever demonized the majority of his opponents' voters. I can't say the same for Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton.
Everytime I hear "he's a danger to our democracy" I immediately think of that combination of news studios who say the thing in the same way at the same time. It's kinda fucking scary how much of an NPC they can be simply because they can Google things to "own" conservatives aka everyone not on the left
it isn't like Destiny cares about voters wants or needs anyways, "Democracy" is just a means to an end to achieve Party victories for him, its completely irrelevant what voters want.
From what I have heard and the few things I've seen from Destiny, it's apparent he has a bias towards "the sources" as being arbiters of truth and have heard it described as basically the bias where he doesn't know or doesn't care that the official sources are biased because they support his world view. He's the guy who says, "Biden's economy is doing great" because the official sources said so and believes that everyone who disagrees based on their needing to actually LIVE in this economy must be wrong. It's the equivalent of saying, "San Francisco doesn't have a problem with poop on the streets because I read an article in the New York Times that says it doesn't" while you're walking through San Francisco and seeing three people pooping on the street in one block.
I think the reason we see this sort of personality so much is that social media is just a bad idea. It has too many competing views of truth and human nature, and nothing can be established because everyone has an incentive to lie for "their team". So people like Destiny respond by deifying the government narrative instead of admitting there is a problem.
"based on their needing to actually LIVE in this economy" 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Destiny is a millionaire and is incapable of understanding just how messed up the Economy is because no matter how jacked up it gets, it will not effect him. He's literally just another rich dude who's connection to reality was severed when he became rich, wondering why so many of the non rich people from all over the political spectrum, Right and center in particular (since a lot of leftists are afraid to defy the cult and be called BAD) are pissed off at Biden....
You know the type. You could debunk him with articles from the same new orgs he venerates and he'd still ignore it. These people don't wake up until the BBC of reality slaps them across the face.
I was incredibly surprised Destiny didn't go completely nuclear when the name "Trump" was mentioned, which is what he usually does in his own content. He was very "mask on" in this. Emotionally, anyway. In terms of his content, not so much.
The best mask off moment from him I've seen recently is a few months ago when he was on Adam and Sitch and he basically said that he thinks that everyone on the right is R'ed, most are immoral and that it’s just counterproductive to say it publicly.
Regardless of how people felt towards his debate with JonTron, it was my first time learning about him and I never liked him. So seeing someone praised so much crumble gives me such schadenfreude!
@@SockieTheSockPuppet Agreed. He's not a debator and he admits that, but that doesn't mean he was wrong. Did a better job than H3 did with Crowder haha!
And right after that he tried to take on the internet aristocrat but you guys know as Mistor Metokur Daddy Jim he wrecked him and Jim wasn't even serious about it and still looked good.
Destiny, is a master Wordsmith at laying verbal minefields. He can manipulate a conversation in such a way at 90% of people are guaranteed to have a bad take regardless of their intention or experience in the subject.
This video was not long enough. I could listen to these dunks all day. Destiny is a midwit of the highest order. But that still makes him smarter than 90% of leftists.
@@Aristocratic_UtensilOi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy... And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong... He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars... Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back??? I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
The major disconnect that people like destiny and ben are unable to fathom is that the majority of americans are not afraid of trump becoming the monster they claim he is. We are disappointed because we know he will not
100% this. I hate that I have to become this person, but the way the country has gone, I'm starting to have to hate large swaths of people for nothing more than the culture they share.
@@cousinzeke4888 You should look up the video. The “”””man”””” couldn’t find Massachusetts or New Jersey despite apparently living in New York for years!
If you value your friendship with a man then you don't dance with his wife. That goes double for if a "wife" is in an open "marriage" with your friend. Even if he says he's OK with it (which every normal person recognizes as an act of self-deception) you still don't do it because A: Out of respect for the man. And B: Out of fear that you will damage your relationship with him. They say that Aba is Destiny's friend, I don't know because to me, in that specific case, he acted more like a snake than a friend.
I have issues with Shapiro but that aside I was so disappointed that Ben didn't shred Destiny where he stood for the moronic crap coming out of his mouth.
I don't see why he would. He was an anti-trumper, and since the Israel thing started, he has become the most rabid RINO around because Biden is supporting our 'greatest' (read most detrimental) ally. Shapiro is an ethno-nat, and anti-war Trump getting in office risks Shapiro's ethnos.
Spoon makes a great point about concentrating on what Pols. actually do as opposed to what they say. The majority GOP of Congress has been doing a lot of talking and making a lot of promises, but what have they actually done? It's just been a lot of posturing. The Uniparty is alive and well.
Congress isn't controlled by the GOP. They control the House, not the Senate. It's controlled by Democrats. A split Congress doesn't get a lot done and I fail to see how that's a bad thing. You mean they're not making more laws to screw with me? The horror
For things people care about, war is another one. I don’t know a single regular person who isn’t on Twitter that wants us to participate in war. Most vehemently oppose war in all circumstances. Which also happens to be another thing Trump was extremely good at!
Yes, this "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" tactic is what makes the debate too annoying to listen to. Instead of going point by point, he'll just spam so much stuff out there that hardly any of it can be properly addressed in a reasonable time frame. At the end of it, nothing is resolved and the viewer is just left frustrated.
I'm sorry, did that clown just compare the fallout of a natural disaster--something entirely beyond the power of any human being to control, much less prevent--to completely preventable riots where billions in damage being caused by human hands, was allowed to happen without intervention? Forget La-La Land, Destiny lives in a mirror universe.
I commented on the actual video that Shapiro does show off a much deeper understanding of politics than Destiny. The simple fact he uses the passing of legislation as an indicator of a Democrat being more successful than a Republican post-Reagan shows he's either cherrypicking or not thinking about his arguments beyond their rhetorical utility 5 seconds from now.
I have often seen people praise Destiny as an intellectually honest Leftist. And while there are clip of him calling out other Breadtubers going full pants on head, he himself is still a dishonest weasle.
Yes, the USA is soft now, Saouth Africans are tough as nails. The new generation after X and Millenians are soft as pudding, the USA as a country and world power is over, RIP USA empire.
Destiny had an "open marriage" That just means your wife's cheating on you and you're pretending to be okay with it, because you have no spine. Then she left him for the guy whose rent he was paying. Destiny deserves no respect. If I ruled the land, he'd be gelded.
Well if I had dollar for everytime he had a stupid position I would have a 100. Cause calling republicans stupid and putting jontron on a noose wasn't good.
Trump is apparently the worst fascist dictator I’ve ever seen. How many actual dictators let massive protests against them and media badmouth them around the clock! I mean he didn’t even create his own secret police force to make dissidents disappear! We have to give him a 1 out of 10 on the dictator’s scale!
If he is evil he is highly incompetent. You telling me a Hitler wannabe would prefer using a bunch of unarmed tourists to overthrow the government and not largest military in the world. Okay fine the military heads might not have been willing to play ball but they would have notified he was trying that. Thus could testify he was trying an insurrection. But no evil incarnate decided to again use a bunch of unarmed tourists.
Id love to see spoon in an actual debate with one of these guys. Not enough people call them out directly when they say stupid things and i think seeing spoon do that would be really fun😂 It would be like that scene from finding nemo when the shark smells blood
I would add that the CHIPs act to bring semi manufacturing back to the US is a placebo. Most of the high end, bleeding edge semi producation and fabrication (Intel, AMD, ARM, Apple) is still done outside the US.
Aristocrat Utensil even though were on opposite ends of the political compass (Im an Anarcho-Capitalist which is the farthest right you can get on the lower half) nut your takes an analysis has taught me a lot about monarchism and upper right wing politics. Though I do not plan to change i will be a subscriber and continue to watch your content 👍
You need structured organisation beyond mere private property and markets. Ancaps are basically the right wing version of teenage communists. You will learn to grow out of this phase.
@@Aristocratic_Utensil Not particularly Anarchusm is not the total elimination of any power more of states and corporations have power and individual choice aka Liberty. I do not believe Monarchism is right for me because I see them as can quickly go tyrannical if absolute monarchy shown in history and modern day Saudi Arabia who doesn't listen to the people and funds terrorism but thats failed Monarchism and there are many successful monarchies like Germany early 1900's is a great example. I just personally believe in the people having power rather than 1 really big gov sector. I still love you though and thank you for the insight as of now I'm still studying Monarchism so I may change in the future I also like watching lavader (another monarchist channel) ❤
Destiny helped one of his friends unalive himself and allow his girl friend to get clapped by other guys. Why does this dude have a following? Why does anyone take him seriously?
Shapiro has been wrong on every issue in the last 10 YEARS... At least. That's because he is a cheerleader for team red jews. Not a serious thinker. Density is just wrong.
Flag burning is protected for good reason. Freedom of expression is more important than respectability. If you don't understand this, stay out of America. The Bill of Rights is our foundation. Nothing is above it.
Destiny is in the mode of assuming the best out of people while not understanding that people are not the best. Naive/gullible, skilled at talking, and irresponsible. Match winning content creator.
Is Trump divisive? Yeah and? The reason he doesn't think Biden is also divisive is because he doesn't actually hold him to the same standards. Liberals always cling on to the politics of poised civility but are the first to dispense with it when it doesn't suit them. Does Trump serve my interests or not? That's the question everything else is windging about him hurting your feelings.
Destiny is moviebob with better social skills: he blazes by each point so fast that on the first listen he SOUNDS like he really knows what he's talking about, but if you just lightly brush the surface you reveal the rancid sewage that is what he actually said. He's also like Vaush with less honesty; yes, horrifying, I know; in that it is so patently obvious by his snake oil salesman style of speech that he doesn't believe his own BS but proudly spouts it to support his side because ultimately all he cares about is being in the middle of the mob he thinks will win.
How have you not figured out that there are other gubment programs that people in Hawaii can utilize? Wait! I know how this happens! You read about half of a paragraph, found something to be upset about and are now regurgitating it all over the internet while thinking that's all there was to the story.
My comment was removed for "being inappropriate" and I was flagged just now. As this is the first time this happened to me, it's probably a sign of what is to come for us all.
You're 100% correct about Ben being wrong about every political prediction he's made in the past 6 years, but actually it's more like 8 years. He bet Hillary would win against the entire field of candidates and would have never predicted Trump's victory.
Destiny is like a director who shoots pretty looking films but the script doesn’t make any sense. So it fools dumb people to thinking there deep. Like Rian Johnson.
The novelisation of TLJ is kinda boring so far. 4 chapters devoted to the opening evacuation. I did laugh when Finn gets 2 pages and it's just him running around in a leaky med suit asking about Rey. Reyyyyyyy!
I shaved my head, my favourite soundgarden at the time was Spoonman, and my friend said I looked like the musician they song is named after, and so I became spoonman, and eventually Spoon
On that last point, we Americans do have people singing, chanting, posting, tweeting (or, X-ing, I guess), etc. against a certain demographic, that being against "cis"/hetero/white/men. Anything to the contrary would be considered verboten. But I see what you mean. Most of us are either unaware or find it to be socially acceptable.
I'm convinced he misspelled his name initially and it was supposed to be density but he's such a flim flam he thought destiny is how you're supposed to spell density
Oh... You weren't a fan of Trump in 2016??? Like Ben wasn't??? I'm starting to understand why you didn't show evidence to anything you said about Ben...
I dislike Ben, I can actually list out reasons why I don't like Ben... The fact that he doesn't believe the establishment doesn't exist, the fact that he supports bush's policies including the war ones till this day ( although he can defend the hell out of it and you would be made out to be the idiot but saying he's right Because of that would just be a fallacy fallacy), I didn't like how supported the ban of those students supporting hamas quite loudly and openly with no filter or sugar coat, something I'm sure you would have sided with him on, I just say let them speak and destroy their reputation, I don't like how he tries to look unbiased on the terms of the left and center left as if their standards matter but that's him using the moderate, independent, nonpartisan and centrist model, I don't like how he still keeps bashing the Jan 6 rioters till now and behaves like the only horrible treatment the left has been doing against them is just calling them insurrectionists and blaming Trump for it, I don't like how he whole heartedly believes the election of 2020 was free and fair and as clean as possible when all evidence shows it's not even close, I don't like how he keeps attacking the tate brothers for what they did in the past and I don't even like the tates that much, I don't like how he simped heavily for Ron de santis, it was effing creepy, I don't like how he defended Nikki from vivek and saw vivek as being irrelevant and childish and not presidential because he attacked the leading runner on the debate stage back then, Nikki Haley, I don't like how vivek effectively disappeared from his show afterwards and wasn't even mentioned when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, I don't like how he wants candidates to be presidential like good ol times, so basically a donor robot which is why he doesn't like Trump and vivek, I don't like when he cozies up to leftists and throws Maga under the bus ( he's actually not Maga and he has indirectly but awarely stated that already) just so he can seem like the unbiased republican whose voice should be considered serious to the centrists, moderates, apolitical, independent, nonpartisan and the left, yes, the left, he does that towards the left sometimes, he gives those groups a benefit of the doubt way way more than he gives to the right...
As you can see, I don't like many things about Shapiro and unlike you, I can actually mention couple of what I don't like about him... You just don't like him because it's popular to not like him from right wing political entertainment pundits who are just angry because he's successful or they think he's an easy target to also look unbiased to the left to try to get more subscribers because that's their primary goal... Ben Shapiro and the daily wire as done way more for the right wing and defeated the left wing and converted more left wingers to centrist and right positions than all these pundits combined and I'm not even being hyperbolic, so please don't come up with a caricature because of out of context tweets of him you managed to catch when they went viral out of context...
Grow the fuck up dude, this isn't a game...
Who hurt you LOL
I ain't reading all that, but congratulations or sorry that happened to you.
He did list a reason lol and a good one. Calm down it's the Internet
Uhhh… Congratulations? My condolences? whichever one fits.
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Destiny doesn't live in la la land....cuz if he did his wife wouldn't have left him for ezra miller
You mean Walmart Ezra Miller, right? 🤣
@@R_Caine yes🤣🤣
Wish Timothee Chalamet
Dude's probably a child predator like Ezra too. He just gives off that vibe.
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Obama and Clinton: divides nation
Media: cricket noises
Trump: arrives
Media: "he's so divisive"!
Also media: *Bends over so George Soros can insert the DEI money.*
Don't ya know that war is peace?!?!?
@@smallestgoober9399 We've always been at war with Eastasia.
@@smallestgoober9399 Only when a Democrat is in office *loud whizzing of drones going into the Middle East* Obama: that was just a swarm of wasps MSNBC, please continue showering me with praise.
That doesn’t make sense, Trump was always divisive too
I love how Destiny is making the rounds to try and repair his image after The Cuckening, only to expose himself as an idiot to a wider audience.
He's just a sad little man
Never forget the Mister Metokur debate. That shattered what very little image Destiny had and he'll never recover from that.
@@coltonwilkie241 I 'member
I actually started watching Destiny during the Kyle Rittenhouse saga, so the fact he was fighting with lefties made him seem way more intelligent and better looking than he actually is
@@coltonwilkie241I missed that one.
What's the TLDR?
He also got smoked by Nick Fuentes on the F&F podcast.
Nick stumped him completely on Israel not being our ally in the Iraq war and failing to assist us in any meaningful way during the invasion. (The point was to prove we fought for small hats and they didn't help us at all)
Destiny was stumbling and attempting to get his chat to help him out of a precarious position after he flat out denied Nick's claims and Nick proved it almost immediately that Destiny was doing nothing but speaking from a place of ignorance.
It was so satisfying watching that thin-wristed pissant get smoked Live. Then the thing with Mileena happened like a few months later. Just absolute dogwater human lol
DesTINY let his wife sleep around and the inevitable happened. Nothing that "man" says can ever be taken seriously.
* wife *
OUR wife.
LOL xD @@Larry_Sycamore
at least he can now use the very satisfying to say phrase "my whore wife"
xD
Dusty-Knee, because he probably got on all fours to clean up after the bull was done
I mean, his wife let him sleep around, too. He wasn’t upset she “cheated”, it was that she was lying.
I’m not defending him or his lifestyle, but I never really understand the digs at his marriage. Plenty of tradcons have relationships end, too
I dont understand why people treat Destiny with any sort of respect or credence. He's just a millennial internet debatebro.
Addendum:
I will also point out that Shapiro was also an anti-Trumper, so this debate panel is a _biiiiiiiiit_ skewed.
He's the reddit midwit " rEaSoNaBlE cEnTriSt" personified.
He's an e-celeb who made the popular format of playing games and then talking politics. So he basically invented the online equivalent of the old salons.
Destiny: "Debate me bro!"
*Guy who is bells deep in his wife* : "Nah"
The answer is simple: the vaush effects.
When you stick two insane people in a room together the one that devietes ever so slightly to sanity looks sane.
With regards to Destiny and Vaush. Vaush was having insane takes like "We should use the bad guy tactics from 1984". Destiny said that's bad and the entire internet thought Destiny was a centrist. Even though the guy is full of many insane takes.
The right was so use to people vouching for their deaths that when a guy came along that only wanted to subjugate them they thought he was some sort of liberator.
Now that the slightly more insane person is gone people can clearly see how insane the other person is.
The left wing equivalent of this would be Ben Sharperio debating Nick Fuentes and a bunch of leftists wing people thinking that Ben is now a "centist".
Taking Destiny's opinion on politics is just as viable as taking his opinion on relationships.
What about an open politics relationship?
You are accountable to your politicians, but they are not accountable to you.
And if they don't like you, they can import other voters and explore their relationship with them.
Oh, wait!
OOF
#idonttakeadvicefrompolyamorists
Its painful to see him talk about Trump demonizing his opponents when trump has been demonized ever since he announced he would run for president in 2016.
I remember someone telling me "i dont care who you vote for, but remember Trump is a fascist" and i remember my young self being so confused
1) because i saw no evidence and none was provided.
2) how can you claim that one candidate is a fascist and then claim that you dont care who i vote for.
3) if you dont care who i vote for. Why even throw that out there?
They can't provide evidence because there isn't any. It's not about Trump's positions anymore but who he represents.
I remember at my school there was a teacher going around to different classes gathering up all the senior students who would be able to vote by election month so she could get them to vote against trump. Didn’t explain why, all she said is that he was racist and we couldn’t let him win. It was Eye opening for me to see that from an educator.
Do they ever look at the mirror?
Marriage is the absolute subject Destiny will be wiped the floor with regardless of who debates him. Hope he sees that an open marriage is NOT a marriage.
Hes a degenerate... i get the impression he genuinely doesn't care , if he did he wouldn't have agreed to an open marriage in first place
Anything in a relationship that's "open" immediately eliminates the relationship.
Open borders? No country.
Open relationships? No relationship.
@@ShibsKenseiExcellent analogy
@@ShibsKensei Beautiful analogy.
He's at the denial stage of grief still? Surely acceptance would've kicked in by now.
never underestimate democrat's capacity for denial.
The only stage he should have is accountability but we all know Dems aren't capable of that.
Evil*
He's at the evil stage.
That's where all Democrats stop.
Oi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy...
And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong...
He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars...
Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back???
I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
I don't think he's raged enough... gotta go through the steps in order
Can the matter of "divisiveness" be attributed to the idiots misrepresenting Trump or outright refusing to engage with reality?
Yes. Leftist media has painted him in such a way that they've said "If you don't despise him like we do you're a bigot"
And wonder why things are more divisive than ever.
He's "more divisive than Biden" if you listen to the media so yes. Meanwhile Biden has literally called 71 million+ voting Americans extremists, dangerous, and all kinds of other crap. Trump has always kept his rhetoric strictly to those in power. Never the little guy no matter the side. I suppose you could consider that divisive between the rulers and the population depending on which side of that you identify with.
“Oh man, I can’t wait for the enlightening debate between John Jackson and Jack Johnson!”
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🐍 no step on Snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Oi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy...
And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong...
He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars...
Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back???
I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
I think ones enlightenment goes too far, and the other doesn't go far enough!
@@johnnycrown5097
TL;DR
Cope.
Hes like that person you met thats really high energy , talks a lot..at first they are amusing, then you figure out they are an empty shell. And wish you had never met them
I always end up sighing when I bump into this type overly talkative jackass acting like they know everything about life and the world.
A man who couldn't run his own household should never be listened to on how to run a nation.
Congrats on 20K you monarchical chad.
Thanks
@@Aristocratic_UtensilOh... You weren't a fan of Trump in 2016??? Like Ben wasn't??? I'm starting to understand why you didn't show evidence to anything you said about Ben...
I dislike Ben, I can actually list out reasons why I don't like Ben... The fact that he doesn't believe the establishment doesn't exist, the fact that he supports bush's policies including the war ones till this day ( although he can defend the hell out of it and you would be made out to be the idiot but saying he's right Because of that would just be a fallacy fallacy), I didn't like how supported the ban of those students supporting hamas quite loudly and openly with no filter or sugar coat, something I'm sure you would have sided with him on, I just say let them speak and destroy their reputation, I don't like how he tries to look unbiased on the terms of the left and center left as if their standards matter but that's him using the moderate, independent, nonpartisan and centrist model, I don't like how he still keeps bashing the Jan 6 rioters till now and behaves like the only horrible treatment the left has been doing against them is just calling them insurrectionists and blaming Trump for it, I don't like how he whole heartedly believes the election of 2020 was free and fair and as clean as possible when all evidence shows it's not even close, I don't like how he keeps attacking the tate brothers for what they did in the past and I don't even like the tates that much, I don't like how he simped heavily for Ron de santis, it was effing creepy, I don't like how he defended Nikki from vivek and saw vivek as being irrelevant and childish and not presidential because he attacked the leading runner on the debate stage back then, Nikki Haley, I don't like how vivek effectively disappeared from his show afterwards and wasn't even mentioned when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, I don't like how he wants candidates to be presidential like good ol times, so basically a donor robot which is why he doesn't like Trump and vivek, I don't like when he cozies up to leftists and throws Maga under the bus ( he's actually not Maga and he has indirectly but awarely stated that already) just so he can seem like the unbiased republican whose voice should be considered serious to the centrists, moderates, apolitical, independent, nonpartisan and the left, yes, the left, he does that towards the left sometimes, he gives those groups a benefit of the doubt way way more than he gives to the right...
As you can see, I don't like many things about Shapiro and unlike you, I can actually mention couple of what I don't like about him... You just don't like him because it's popular to not like him from right wing political entertainment pundits who are just angry because he's successful or they think he's an easy target to also look unbiased to the left to try to get more subscribers because that's their primary goal... Ben Shapiro and the daily wire as done way more for the right wing and defeated the left wing and converted more left wingers to centrist and right positions than all these pundits combined and I'm not even being hyperbolic, so please don't come up with a caricature because of out of context tweets of him you managed to catch when they went viral out of context...
Grow the fuck up dude, this isn't a game...
@@johnnycrown5097 .... Who hurt you? LOL
@@Aristocratic_Utensil and there we go, now you reveal yourself as a midwit... Like an actual midwit... You realize you have no point so you go to fallacies...
You screamed about dev, Adam and stitch lying about you and went on a bender but you do it for someone else after admitting to me in the comment section of another video that you only know him from passing tweets and someone tries to correct you about it and you answer with this...
You're worst than dev because he at least tries to defend his BS, you just go straight to insults...
I guess it's my fault... I've supported way more than I have gone against you but it looks like you want an echo chamber and not an exchange of ideas...
You're an hypocrite... You gave no reason for your claims of Shapiro for me to even reference, you just want us to just believe you because you said so...
Pray tell, what then makes you way of thinking different from the left???
He said "kids should have access to puberty blockers and hormones, even if they have to get them from unregulated sources"
Which was all I needed to know about him. We have an irreconcilable difference of opinion which I won't budge an inch to compromise on
It’s annoying all the conservative normies who get swayed by his rhetoric. Idiots. This man supports so much terrible things.
Destiny keeps embarrassing himself with his stupidity.
People like him can't be embarrassed. It's part of being a Democrat.
IMO the best part of the clip is Shapiro looking at the camera like he's saying "Do you actually believe this jackass's bullshit?"
I think it is really funny thet Destiny imply thet the BLM lootings are in fact were on a level of a Natural Disaster. Very interesting analisise.
I watched destiny once and tealized almost immediately that he was a pseudo intellectual. In that video he just talked fast, diddnt refute any points without constructing an argument for his opponent. He is skilled in sophistry and thats it.
Debate him
@NEprimo no, I don't debate lawyers or sophist. They are expert liars that will spin language to win arguments. They don't use facts . Destiny also believes that it's All right to have 2 conflicting moral systems so he can flip flop to whichever one is convenient for him at the time. The last reason, if he started doing that it would be really hard for me no to use his mail order bride cucking him to attack him and not his argument lol.
@@NEprimoNo. Debates are an insincere means of conversation that relies more on trickery rather than conceptual ideas and facts. You are better off learning from literally anything else besides debates.
What are silly nicknames (like sleepy Joe) compared to the labels Democrats give their political opponents?
That is something I was thinking about. Sure, Trump attacks his political opponents on either side of the political aisle (which I think is ultimately a good thing), but I'm not sure he's ever demonized the majority of his opponents' voters. I can't say the same for Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton.
They can't accept being made fun of that's the difference
Everytime I hear "he's a danger to our democracy" I immediately think of that combination of news studios who say the thing in the same way at the same time. It's kinda fucking scary how much of an NPC they can be simply because they can Google things to "own" conservatives aka everyone not on the left
it isn't like Destiny cares about voters wants or needs anyways, "Democracy" is just a means to an end to achieve Party victories for him, its completely irrelevant what voters want.
From what I have heard and the few things I've seen from Destiny, it's apparent he has a bias towards "the sources" as being arbiters of truth and have heard it described as basically the bias where he doesn't know or doesn't care that the official sources are biased because they support his world view.
He's the guy who says, "Biden's economy is doing great" because the official sources said so and believes that everyone who disagrees based on their needing to actually LIVE in this economy must be wrong. It's the equivalent of saying, "San Francisco doesn't have a problem with poop on the streets because I read an article in the New York Times that says it doesn't" while you're walking through San Francisco and seeing three people pooping on the street in one block.
I think the reason we see this sort of personality so much is that social media is just a bad idea. It has too many competing views of truth and human nature, and nothing can be established because everyone has an incentive to lie for "their team". So people like Destiny respond by deifying the government narrative instead of admitting there is a problem.
He's a leftist. What else would you expect?
"based on their needing to actually LIVE in this economy"
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Destiny is a millionaire and is incapable of understanding just how messed up the Economy is because no matter how jacked up it gets, it will not effect him.
He's literally just another rich dude who's connection to reality was severed when he became rich, wondering why so many of the non rich people from all over the political spectrum, Right and center in particular (since a lot of leftists are afraid to defy the cult and be called BAD) are pissed off at Biden....
You know the type. You could debunk him with articles from the same new orgs he venerates and he'd still ignore it. These people don't wake up until the BBC of reality slaps them across the face.
I was incredibly surprised Destiny didn't go completely nuclear when the name "Trump" was mentioned, which is what he usually does in his own content. He was very "mask on" in this. Emotionally, anyway. In terms of his content, not so much.
I've been noticing more and more content creators are going "mask off" these days.
The best mask off moment from him I've seen recently is a few months ago when he was on Adam and Sitch and he basically said that he thinks that everyone on the right is R'ed, most are immoral and that it’s just counterproductive to say it publicly.
Regardless of how people felt towards his debate with JonTron, it was my first time learning about him and I never liked him. So seeing someone praised so much crumble gives me such schadenfreude!
I still think JonTron's only "crime" was poor wording.
@@SockieTheSockPuppet Agreed. He's not a debator and he admits that, but that doesn't mean he was wrong. Did a better job than H3 did with Crowder haha!
@@EndThusIAm A wobbly stool would do better than H3.
And right after that he tried to take on the internet aristocrat but you guys know as Mistor Metokur Daddy Jim he wrecked him and Jim wasn't even serious about it and still looked good.
Destiny, is a master Wordsmith at laying verbal minefields. He can manipulate a conversation in such a way at 90% of people are guaranteed to have a bad take regardless of their intention or experience in the subject.
This video was not long enough. I could listen to these dunks all day. Destiny is a midwit of the highest order. But that still makes him smarter than 90% of leftists.
I might do a live stream with Aydin on it
Do it. I watched this debate yesterday and i want to see some others discuss it. @Yeeted_Utensil
He is the personification of the midwit. He literally looks up wikipedia mid convo to deboonk you.
@@Aristocratic_UtensilOi... Ben Shapiro is smart... Way smarter than you... This is another bad take, not as bad as you dumb attack on abott and his transporting of migrants to the sanctuary states and surprise surprise, you got that one way the hell wrong because you refuse to do your research and just ran on emotions and feelings... You're creating a caricature of Ben without watching his shows... That's disingenuous of you... He just doesn't like to predict, he gives verdicts only... He stays on the fence and doesn't like to get to the logical conclusion because that's thinking too far for him... He's an hindsight guy not a foresight guy...
And no, Ben Shapiro wasn't wrong about all the things you think he was wrong about... You just watched edited clips of him to make him out to be wrong...
He was right about Trump losing the 2020 election, he was right about trump's contesting the election not working, he was right about the left draining every political and authoritarian capital they can get from any potential riot the right goes on, he was right about how the left would handle Jan 6, he was right about where covid came from, he fought like hell against the covid mandate even more than the people who lied that he was wrong about it because Ben said take it if you want but a drug that never made it to stage 3 testing shouldn't be mandated because people seemed to forget that the vaccine was a trump achievement with operation warp speed but Biden tainted it by mandating it and not choosing one pharma company to supply it instead using all five of them making everyone extremely and rightfully skeptical about them especially considering Biden ordered a new batch as soon as he entered office, Ben was right about the chauvin and George Floyd incident, he was right every step of the way about everything about the Ukrainian and Jewish wars...
Perhaps you should actually research a person before defaming them disingenuously... Remember when you got angry about dev, Adam and stitch doing that to you a while back???
I know it's popular to dislike the Jewish man and I do myself, he's an obvious libertarian rhino in political thinking but I'm not going to be disingenuous and lie about him like the people who you're getting your opinion of him from do because then, I'll be like the left and also, he's Fucking way smarter than you and you obviously don't know anything about him than what centrists tell you about him... You do know that they don't like him because he's successful, just like crowder, they're just shitting on him because he's the biggest conservative pundit, maybe leave your echo chamber and do more research...
@Yeeted_Utensil it's definitely worth one. We have two of the most mediocre minds of our generation prattling on in there, seems like a good lolcow.
The major disconnect that people like destiny and ben are unable to fathom is that the majority of americans are not afraid of trump becoming the monster they claim he is. We are disappointed because we know he will not
100% this.
I hate that I have to become this person, but the way the country has gone, I'm starting to have to hate large swaths of people for nothing more than the culture they share.
@@TheDapperDragon
Once you see the paradox of tolerance, you can’t unsee it.
Destiny scored 64% on an online quiz for finding all the states on a map.
The detached from reality city liberal doesn't know his own country? I'm shocked.
@@cousinzeke4888 You should look up the video. The “”””man”””” couldn’t find Massachusetts or New Jersey despite apparently living in New York for years!
Destiny talking about Trump is comedy gold.
He becomes an emotional wreck like when his wife was only dancing with Aba.
Destiny likes his political opinions like he likes his wife.
Full of other people poking holes in them.
Only dancing for now....Aba was getting her engine warmed up while cuk boy was in the room.
If you value your friendship with a man then you don't dance with his wife. That goes double for if a "wife" is in an open "marriage" with your friend. Even if he says he's OK with it (which every normal person recognizes as an act of self-deception) you still don't do it because A: Out of respect for the man. And B: Out of fear that you will damage your relationship with him. They say that Aba is Destiny's friend, I don't know because to me, in that specific case, he acted more like a snake than a friend.
He should hang out with Sam Harris.
;-)
Him dying inside while she's having more fun with Aba is comedic gold to Me lol
"Trump is le bad because..."
* Proceeds to list off a bunch of objectively good things *
Gotta love it when they start listing off a bunch of bills that only exist to send money overseas and get kickbacks.
Never take seriously a person who thinks there is such thing as a "open marriage"
The divorce couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
I have issues with Shapiro but that aside I was so disappointed that Ben didn't shred Destiny where he stood for the moronic crap coming out of his mouth.
He is like a more intelligent version of Crowder, only good because he picks low hanging fruits of leftists to make fools of.
I don't see why he would. He was an anti-trumper, and since the Israel thing started, he has become the most rabid RINO around because Biden is supporting our 'greatest' (read most detrimental) ally. Shapiro is an ethno-nat, and anti-war Trump getting in office risks Shapiro's ethnos.
Shapiro's brain is broken from Trump and supporting the smallhats 100% of the time.
Ben is no fan of Trump
TDS so strong that both hugged and cried
NPC cannot break out of its programing, imagine my shock.
This was always his DESTINY…
Spoon makes a great point about concentrating on what Pols. actually do as opposed to what they say. The majority GOP of Congress has been doing a lot of talking and making a lot of promises, but what have they actually done? It's just been a lot of posturing. The Uniparty is alive and well.
Congress isn't controlled by the GOP. They control the House, not the Senate. It's controlled by Democrats. A split Congress doesn't get a lot done and I fail to see how that's a bad thing. You mean they're not making more laws to screw with me? The horror
Apparently Destiny forgot “Let’s Go Brandon” is popular for a reason.
Dude, legit forgot, "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black"
Hilarious the 14% fell in line behind that, and now, he can't keep them from telling him to eat shit.
He looks like he is not recovering from his "marriage" and dropped straight to the podcast.
For things people care about, war is another one. I don’t know a single regular person who isn’t on Twitter that wants us to participate in war. Most vehemently oppose war in all circumstances. Which also happens to be another thing Trump was extremely good at!
I'd love more and bigger wars but I'm not on Twitter
Yes, this "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" tactic is what makes the debate too annoying to listen to. Instead of going point by point, he'll just spam so much stuff out there that hardly any of it can be properly addressed in a reasonable time frame. At the end of it, nothing is resolved and the viewer is just left frustrated.
I dissagree on America beening the laughing stock of the west. That title firmly belongs to my nation, Canada.
UK’s a close second
Destiny is basically a modern Maddox, but 10x worse, just minus the lolsuits.
Destiny doesn't really have anything in common with Maddox.
I'm sorry, did that clown just compare the fallout of a natural disaster--something entirely beyond the power of any human being to control, much less prevent--to completely preventable riots where billions in damage being caused by human hands, was allowed to happen without intervention?
Forget La-La Land, Destiny lives in a mirror universe.
I commented on the actual video that Shapiro does show off a much deeper understanding of politics than Destiny. The simple fact he uses the passing of legislation as an indicator of a Democrat being more successful than a Republican post-Reagan shows he's either cherrypicking or not thinking about his arguments beyond their rhetorical utility 5 seconds from now.
Oh god Jesus no not nicknames!
Blackpilled makes everyone mentioned at 1:54 look like centrist grifters.
Destiny's IQ is about 30 points lower than he thinks it is.
970?
I need someone to look at me the way Ben looks at the camera
this is what I was waiting for once I saw there was an hours long debate. the responses and highlights.
I have often seen people praise Destiny as an intellectually honest Leftist. And while there are clip of him calling out other Breadtubers going full pants on head, he himself is still a dishonest weasle.
Destiny has an Alice in Wonderland view where little things are big and big things are small.
Destiny is the guy who took a Rhetoric class in college and believed that he could convince anyone of anything.
Yes, the USA is soft now, Saouth Africans are tough as nails. The new generation after X and Millenians are soft as pudding, the USA as a country and world power is over, RIP USA empire.
Watching these two talk about Trump is like watching Women's NBA. Airballs, inept movement and whatever audience IS watching is there just to laugh.
Haha!
Destiny had an "open marriage"
That just means your wife's cheating on you and you're pretending to be okay with it, because you have no spine.
Then she left him for the guy whose rent he was paying.
Destiny deserves no respect. If I ruled the land, he'd be gelded.
If I had a nickel for every thing named Destiny that was cucked and woke, I'd have two nickels. Odd it happened twice.
Well if I had dollar for everytime he had a stupid position I would have a 100. Cause calling republicans stupid and putting jontron on a noose wasn't good.
If Trump is so evil... Why are all of you people still alive?
Trump is apparently the worst fascist dictator I’ve ever seen. How many actual dictators let massive protests against them and media badmouth them around the clock! I mean he didn’t even create his own secret police force to make dissidents disappear! We have to give him a 1 out of 10 on the dictator’s scale!
If he is evil he is highly incompetent. You telling me a Hitler wannabe would prefer using a bunch of unarmed tourists to overthrow the government and not largest military in the world. Okay fine the military heads might not have been willing to play ball but they would have notified he was trying that. Thus could testify he was trying an insurrection. But no evil incarnate decided to again use a bunch of unarmed tourists.
This channel and Think Before You Sleep are my favorite channels thus far this year
Having spawned vaush from his chat, I'd go out on a limb and say destiny is unintentionally evil. (Because he's dumb).
Im still undecided between Destiny, Will Smith and Adam22 for the title of Most Humiliated Fool on Earth.
Jack Murphy still for me.
@@Larry_Sycamore for me it's destiny because the humiliation is amplified because of the soyboy she left him for.
Destiny V Shapiro is like Cancer V Aids.
Hold on... cancer and aids can be treated...
BBC vs. Destiny's former wife
See which one kills you faster lol
@@shidelerdantheogre8487 the BBC or his ex-wife?
Always good to find the channel of a fren. Good stuff.
Destiny talking about politics is like Hunter Avalonge talking about a healthy relationship. Both are cringe
Ever since he lost that height check against Fuentes things have been going downhill
I stop listening to Destiny AFTER the JonTron incident
I honestly don't see why people think Destiny is smart. He is not.
Id love to see spoon in an actual debate with one of these guys. Not enough people call them out directly when they say stupid things and i think seeing spoon do that would be really fun😂
It would be like that scene from finding nemo when the shark smells blood
It’s funny that getting smacked in the face with reality a bit ago did *nothing* to fix him
Ben Shapiro lookin prty smooth in that jacket tbh - might have to buy one
I would add that the CHIPs act to bring semi manufacturing back to the US is a placebo. Most of the high end, bleeding edge semi producation and fabrication (Intel, AMD, ARM, Apple) is still done outside the US.
Man who thought polyamory could work, stuck in La-La Land? You're KIDDING.
I just watched your video on the Political Theory of Absolute Monarchy. You should consider doing more, I really enjoyed it.
Sadly america can't function with a king in its presemt form, but maybe with some kind of dictator.
@@bruceknee4941 Who knows? Only time will tell.
The Jean Domat one?
@@Aristocratic_Utensil Yes, That's the one. Found it very interesting and decided to look up his other books.
Destiny constantly sounds like he's one step away from crying.
Sophist of modernity.
Aristocrat Utensil even though were on opposite ends of the political compass (Im an Anarcho-Capitalist which is the farthest right you can get on the lower half) nut your takes an analysis has taught me a lot about monarchism and upper right wing politics. Though I do not plan to change i will be a subscriber and continue to watch your content 👍
You need structured organisation beyond mere private property and markets. Ancaps are basically the right wing version of teenage communists. You will learn to grow out of this phase.
@@Aristocratic_UtensilExplain Millei, who is an AnCap yet made a thriving Argentina?
@@Aristocratic_Utensil Not particularly Anarchusm is not the total elimination of any power more of states and corporations have power and individual choice aka Liberty. I do not believe Monarchism is right for me because I see them as can quickly go tyrannical if absolute monarchy shown in history and modern day Saudi Arabia who doesn't listen to the people and funds terrorism but thats failed Monarchism and there are many successful monarchies like Germany early 1900's is a great example. I just personally believe in the people having power rather than 1 really big gov sector. I still love you though and thank you for the insight as of now I'm still studying Monarchism so I may change in the future I also like watching lavader (another monarchist channel) ❤
Destiny helped one of his friends unalive himself and allow his girl friend to get clapped by other guys. Why does this dude have a following? Why does anyone take him seriously?
Shapiro has been wrong on every issue in the last 10 YEARS... At least. That's because he is a cheerleader for team red jews. Not a serious thinker.
Density is just wrong.
Destiny is smart enough to rationalize his positions even if it's blatantly wrong.
Flag burning is protected for good reason. Freedom of expression is more important than respectability. If you don't understand this, stay out of America.
The Bill of Rights is our foundation. Nothing is above it.
Same thing goes for cartoons of the prophet.
Yea, they mean nothing.
Density doesn't debate, he just flips though a catalog of talking points on his tablet.
Destiny is in the mode of assuming the best out of people while not understanding that people are not the best. Naive/gullible, skilled at talking, and irresponsible. Match winning content creator.
You should watch the Mistor Metokur debate with this guy he literally loses it and Jim wasn't even serious and still won.
Is Trump divisive? Yeah and? The reason he doesn't think Biden is also divisive is because he doesn't actually hold him to the same standards. Liberals always cling on to the politics of poised civility but are the first to dispense with it when it doesn't suit them. Does Trump serve my interests or not? That's the question everything else is windging about him hurting your feelings.
Destiny is moviebob with better social skills: he blazes by each point so fast that on the first listen he SOUNDS like he really knows what he's talking about, but if you just lightly brush the surface you reveal the rancid sewage that is what he actually said. He's also like Vaush with less honesty; yes, horrifying, I know; in that it is so patently obvious by his snake oil salesman style of speech that he doesn't believe his own BS but proudly spouts it to support his side because ultimately all he cares about is being in the middle of the mob he thinks will win.
@8:45 Wheres the aid for Hawaii? oh wait, thats right $700, nevermind.
How have you not figured out that there are other gubment programs that people in Hawaii can utilize? Wait! I know how this happens! You read about half of a paragraph, found something to be upset about and are now regurgitating it all over the internet while thinking that's all there was to the story.
My comment was removed for "being inappropriate" and I was flagged just now.
As this is the first time this happened to me, it's probably a sign of what is to come for us all.
The intro of Spoon describing the facade of these false intellectuals. Made me fondly recall and long for the brilliant content of Molyneux.
And then Trump became a living legend and Destiny imploded his career spectacularly.
He called out his faction more or less more than Shapiro ever has.
I'm new to the channel , but any Destiny hate is good hate . Subscribed .
Greetings
You know, I think it would be easier to list who doesn't live in La-La Land.
You're 100% correct about Ben being wrong about every political prediction he's made in the past 6 years, but actually it's more like 8 years. He bet Hillary would win against the entire field of candidates and would have never predicted Trump's victory.
this been happening 4 god knows how long
Destiny is like a director who shoots pretty looking films but the script doesn’t make any sense. So it fools dumb people to thinking there deep. Like Rian Johnson.
The novelisation of TLJ is kinda boring so far. 4 chapters devoted to the opening evacuation. I did laugh when Finn gets 2 pages and it's just him running around in a leaky med suit asking about Rey. Reyyyyyyy!
I love his movie Brick but man I think you hit the nail on the head...
Never go full Steven 'Destiny' Girlname Bonnell
Quick honest question: why a spoon?
I shaved my head, my favourite soundgarden at the time was Spoonman, and my friend said I looked like the musician they song is named after, and so I became spoonman, and eventually Spoon
On that last point, we Americans do have people singing, chanting, posting, tweeting (or, X-ing, I guess), etc. against a certain demographic, that being against "cis"/hetero/white/men.
Anything to the contrary would be considered verboten. But I see what you mean. Most of us are either unaware or find it to be socially acceptable.
I'm convinced he misspelled his name initially and it was supposed to be density but he's such a flim flam he thought destiny is how you're supposed to spell density
Watching Destiny get dunked on is one of my favorite American past times