Chapo Trap House: Reviewing Hillary Clinton's Hagiography

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2023
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  • @mishima70
    @mishima70 11 місяців тому +72

    Golden from the very outset: 0:42-0:46 Will- "It's a pure hagiography" Amber- "The biography of a Hag."

    • @grassygnoll3345
      @grassygnoll3345 6 місяців тому +4

      This made Amber my favorite chapo.

    • @nowhereweareagain
      @nowhereweareagain Місяць тому +1

      I read this comment right as I hit that line and ended up reading and hearing the punch line in sync.

  • @collindysart6472
    @collindysart6472 Рік тому +332

    I’ll give her this: one of the most inadvertently hilarious politicians of this era. Just completely incapable of appearing human.

    • @julymagnus493
      @julymagnus493 Рік тому +68

      Her most human moment was when she didn't appear before her fans after she lost the election. I want to be alone when I'm upset too Hill-dog.😔

    • @ImpendingRiot83
      @ImpendingRiot83 Рік тому +17

      Absolute skinwalker.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 Рік тому +2

      America loves voting for reptiles lol

    • @Omniseed
      @Omniseed Рік тому +2

      truly the fart zuckerberg of politicians

    • @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf
      @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf Рік тому +32

      She walked so Kamala could run while inappropriately laughing to the word salad bar

  • @MuscoeMartin
    @MuscoeMartin Рік тому +82

    Hagiography - biography of a hag ❤️‍🔥

  • @pokemongo-up3rq
    @pokemongo-up3rq Рік тому +43

    Imagine that kid that asks the teacher for more homework, only instead of a class of 30 kids. It's a country of 300 million people.

  • @dennisbegley249
    @dennisbegley249 Рік тому +49

    Matt was Steph Curry hot this episode. Couldn’t miss

  • @SuperTonyony
    @SuperTonyony 11 місяців тому +47

    I'd like to ask the Hillster how voting for a woman is inherently progressive. What if Margaret Thatcher or Ayn Rand or Ann Coulter is on the ballot?

    • @corvacopia
      @corvacopia 7 місяців тому +14

      Hillary applauded the fascist Prime Minister’s election in Italy as “breaking the glass ceiling” so I think we know her answer to that…

    • @dirrdevil
      @dirrdevil 2 місяці тому

      Exactly this. Hillary is pro-fascist as long as the candidate is a woman. ​@@corvacopia

  • @inprofile741
    @inprofile741 Рік тому +106

    Really enjoyed this hell on earth episode ❤

  • @theodoreganymede2095
    @theodoreganymede2095 Рік тому +33

    Let's never forget she played the race card during the '08 primary.

    • @berdyderg900
      @berdyderg900 2 місяці тому

      Which obviously didn't work so she then tried the sex card in 2016. No good, she'll have to play the age card now in 2024.

  • @PhalisoBringerOfDoom
    @PhalisoBringerOfDoom Рік тому +84

    The really fucked up part is even if the email shit was just about Chelsea's wedding that would still be damning.
    Hillary made the guest list and she invited Ghislaine Maxwell. This was a small wedding, even Obama got snubbed for an invitation (probably because she's still mad about him beating her in 08) but she invited Ghislaine because that's how close the Clinton family was to her.

    • @theotherdude1998
      @theotherdude1998 Рік тому +1

      Oh yeah? Chelsea's wedding and yoga? No big deal? If its no big deal can I get 1 Hillary Clinton yoga pant Cameltoe shot and 2 the cc list for those emails im trying to shoot my shot at jizzy ghislane

    • @johndavey2340
      @johndavey2340 10 місяців тому +9

      Damn this no one really ever put it into context like that, I knew the fact they invited her was damning but not this damning

  • @mishima70
    @mishima70 11 місяців тому +19

    16:23-16:40 Amber scores again with the immortal handle "Clinton Foundation Torgos".

  • @jessmorgan6732
    @jessmorgan6732 Рік тому +35

    I'm now going to use "Torgos" to refer to all political lickspittles. Awesome.

  • @BENABONZO
    @BENABONZO Рік тому +42

    "Biography of a hag" nice dude
    Also Im gay

  • @sislater6334
    @sislater6334 Рік тому +38

    Interestingly Jizzlane maxwell's dad was a Hagiography publisher for the most part.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Рік тому

      Ya...thats not a relevant connection lol.

    • @coreygolpheneee
      @coreygolpheneee Рік тому

      It's one big kid fucking club, and you ain't in it

    • @sislater6334
      @sislater6334 Рік тому +3

      @@LD-tn6ff It's directly contextual with the discussion of hagiographys, Bob Maxwell mainly published hagiographys of various East European communist dictators

  • @ToruKun1
    @ToruKun1 Рік тому +36

    "I MAY NOT BE CHRISTIAN CAGE--BUT THIS EPISODE IS--AN INSTANT CLASSIC!"[/robo-Hillary voice]

  • @odorutori
    @odorutori 8 місяців тому +11

    I went to see all four hours of this garbage in a movie theatre, where it was shown under the umbrella of "Feminist Fridays". There was supposed to be a Q&A session afterwards and that I was really looking forward to (mostly to ask about all the horrid stuff it omits), but much to my chagrin it got canceled.

    • @RobHel
      @RobHel 8 місяців тому +1

      Holy Fuck, I'd pay an ungodly amount of money only to go to the Q & A with all that unhinged Clinton ladies. Get some shrooms and have some fun!

  • @josephyoung6749
    @josephyoung6749 Рік тому +11

    I'm surprised Hulu didn't make the title "hillary" with a lowercase 'H' to underline just how off the cuff this was.

  • @whentheleveebreaks4732
    @whentheleveebreaks4732 Рік тому +11

    Did they mention her good friend Jeffery Epstein in this doc?

  • @monsignorerasmus.6441
    @monsignorerasmus.6441 8 місяців тому +6

    Hubris, unearned confidence, unearned status, unearned _power_ "concern" via social calculation, a charisma-less grocery bag filled with incompetence, grievance and contempt for humanity.
    That's a winning combination for slow motion sociological decent, as opposed to the rapid careening into dystopia duct taped to a wheelbarrow that is Trump.
    I think we need to take the keys out of the hand of these criminals and start over

  • @achnix3167
    @achnix3167 Рік тому +32

    Did the original get deleated? Either way miss these days of the podcast.

    • @ClibanariusJJ
      @ClibanariusJJ Рік тому +7

      Nah, I think Chris is trying to revive this clip-centric channel that'd been abandoned for a long time. Official channel has the full episodes posted still (although I think these are Patreon eps so it probably didn't host them anyway). Acid Marxist and a few others have posted this before, too.

    • @achnix3167
      @achnix3167 Рік тому +9

      @@ClibanariusJJ i thought this channel just belonged to a random person

    • @ClibanariusJJ
      @ClibanariusJJ Рік тому +14

      @@achnix3167 Oh god damnit I thought this was the SPEED BOAT DOPE channel. This is Acid Marxist's. My mistake!

  • @Jesus-wi1tt
    @Jesus-wi1tt Рік тому +15

    Godspeed Acid Marxist

  • @EdwardNigma48333934
    @EdwardNigma48333934 10 місяців тому +4

    Matt with the greatest Obama impersonation mixed with an overall incredible summary of the Democratic party's plans from 2008 to 2016 @2:02:00

  • @coreygolpheneee
    @coreygolpheneee Рік тому +36

    Why didnt she get elected? There isnt one clip of her speaking that sounds like a human being i can think of, she has never spoken candidly in her life to the people that are supposed to elect her.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Рік тому +5

      I mean...we shouldn't be electing people on the basis of personality and relatability though anyway. I for example would elect someone with her personality in a minute if she wasn't so corrupt. Her problems from an objective policy perspective was her willingness to flop 180 degrees on policy directly resulting from donor/wall st. influence, and delusions of grandeur that limited any self reflection on policy orientation that was frankly outdated (things like foreign policy). In terms of IQ, I think she actually outpaces most in elected office. When you combine enormous intellect with existing public distrust stemming from the above described corrupt practices, that very same public distrust skyrockets even more.

    • @OGAshton
      @OGAshton 11 місяців тому

      @@LD-tn6ffshe comes off as inhuman because she’s such a soulless neolib who had absolutely nothing exciting about her campaign. She just supported everything Obama did and was against Bernie on socialized healthcare. Hillary is the antithesis to a populist candidate

    • @coreygolpheneee
      @coreygolpheneee 11 місяців тому +2

      @@LD-tn6ff that's kind of my point, she says what is required of her by her donors at that moment, she has nothing she would put her foot down morally over

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 4 місяці тому

      She would have won if you would just Pokemon Go to the polls.

    • @berdyderg900
      @berdyderg900 2 місяці тому

      Either misogyny or being the single worst candidate in modern history, take your pick

  • @Omniseed
    @Omniseed Рік тому +23

    she wanted the full women's girl experience of feminility

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Рік тому

      And then when she lost, had an entire plethora of staffers and media conglomerates stump for 4 years on the basis of sexism being the reason she lost. As such, she single handedly caused 2/3 of dems to go into the 2020 election believing that other dem voters would be less likely to vote for a female candidate - even when virtually no individual dem voters themselves would vote differently on the basis of sex. In a race therefore tied to electability, she essentially made it impossible for women to have success in the following elections. Not only is that inherently "anti-woman", but she didn't advocate for any female contenders across any ideological platform whatsoever.

  • @josephyoung6749
    @josephyoung6749 Рік тому +24

    This is some of the funniest material you've done... somehow Clinton's presence in politics as a measure of political amnesia provides fertile ground for that kind of thing??!

    • @hughjass2745
      @hughjass2745 Рік тому +1

      I think the Democrat's rehabilitation of George W Bush and Cheney goes far beyond what they've done with Hillary. A million dead Iraqi civilians and 1,000's of dead US military just wiped from memory. With Dem's and 'moderate' Republican's having the nerve to call Trump a racist white supremacist, fascist. These 2 were literally whipping up America into an Islamaphobiac hysteria after 9/11, bombing Afghan weddings and blowing up Baghdad hospitals for most of the 2000's as 'retribution'. GWB'S now a loveable, goofy grandpa the left loves...and Cheney's in his daughter's campaign ad's, with both of them lecturing about morality. It's truly sickening and evil.

  • @tommyhowsthepeeping
    @tommyhowsthepeeping Рік тому +35

    matt becomes the joker @ 0:49

  • @marcantoinelab12321
    @marcantoinelab12321 2 місяці тому +1

    31:05
    ITS LIKE HEARING SHARKS LAUGH
    Just absolutely soul-less sociopaths.
    Pure diamonds of selfishness.
    Its so eerie.
    An auditory uncanny valley.

    • @berdyderg900
      @berdyderg900 2 місяці тому +1

      They're some of the most lifelike androids ever seen, basically commander data but before he got the emotion chip installed.

  • @CMike44
    @CMike44 Рік тому +5

    Listening to this and getting mad again about all the turbo libs from facebook in 2020

  • @ottz2506
    @ottz2506 8 місяців тому +2

    46:55 Guy tried his joke but fell flat because Amber kept speaking over him.

  • @OrinLinwe
    @OrinLinwe 8 місяців тому +3

    ...just legitimately feels like it was 20 years ago.

  • @averagejoe225
    @averagejoe225 9 місяців тому +3

    1:31:29 one of Brendan's better bits lol

  • @WriteInAaronBushnell
    @WriteInAaronBushnell 2 місяці тому +2

    Biden should drop out at the last minute, and slick Willy should run

  • @jameslucena1020
    @jameslucena1020 Рік тому +2

    I'm just chillin

  • @spearson103
    @spearson103 Рік тому +4

    Putting the hag in hagiography

  • @diopap1529
    @diopap1529 Рік тому +4

    Bring back Amber

  • @spankytag
    @spankytag Рік тому +6

    The Frontline documentary on Hillary is really good.

  • @jamesmurray4062
    @jamesmurray4062 4 місяці тому

    Spam emails from Ann Taylor Loft got me good

  • @BigPhatMan
    @BigPhatMan Рік тому +6

    What did he say at 2:03:29?
    "He was the ______ to her _______."

    • @vandraeck
      @vandraeck Рік тому +10

      "He was the Karla to her Smiley." Characters from John le Carré novels

  • @sheeteemouse3746
    @sheeteemouse3746 Рік тому +5

    im gay

  • @User-ge7ni
    @User-ge7ni Рік тому +5

    1:25:54 what did he say

  • @CapnSnackbeard
    @CapnSnackbeard Рік тому +17

    She's gonna run again. Jfc

    • @AdraTheGhost
      @AdraTheGhost Рік тому +27

      if she and joe are running in the same race the sheer amount of unintentional comedy will kill us all.

    • @ItsOgre
      @ItsOgre Рік тому +7

      @@AdraTheGhost the debates of Kamala, Joe and Hilary in the same race would be better than anything on tv in the last 20 years. Slurred incoherence and the cringiest attempts at sloganeering ever captured.

    • @sifunmon
      @sifunmon 7 місяців тому

      She won’t

  • @BNardolilli
    @BNardolilli Рік тому +4

    lol spam emails from Anne Taylor Loft

  • @WriteInAaronBushnell
    @WriteInAaronBushnell 2 місяці тому

    Is this free booting chapo trap house?

  • @sanctionskillkids3541
    @sanctionskillkids3541 9 місяців тому

    Hillary Clinton did get more votes than orange man. Neither got a majority
    Clinton
    received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
    Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

    • @TheSpiritOfTheTimes
      @TheSpiritOfTheTimes 9 місяців тому

      Yes, we know, we can use Google. But that's the American system innit?

    • @sanctionskillkids3541
      @sanctionskillkids3541 9 місяців тому

      @@TheSpiritOfTheTimes yep. It is.

    • @RobHel
      @RobHel 8 місяців тому

      Okay, we get it. You're a nerd...;)

  • @Alex.R.L
    @Alex.R.L Рік тому +13

    Boomers are scheduled to lose political dominance in 2028. Tomorrow's going to be better than today. Vote in primaries. Participate. We Have People.

    • @CNYKnifeNut
      @CNYKnifeNut Рік тому +8

      I had similar hopes for religion in general, or at least it's domination of politics.
      We all see how that's going...

    • @CzolgoszWorkinMan
      @CzolgoszWorkinMan Рік тому +9

      don’t know if you know this but the bourgeoisie reproduce their class from one generation to the next

    • @Alex.R.L
      @Alex.R.L Рік тому +2

      @@CzolgoszWorkinMan I don't know if you know this, but wealth inequality is getting worse every year. As the power pyramid gets taller, the top of the mountain gets narrower. Folk get pushed off. Money is power and power is comparative. Advantage snowballs.
      That's really why fascism Is Always destined to fail: the privileged in-group shrinks. "First they came for ...." Eventually, the better positioned Nobility become king of the hill, and the "populist" fascists become serfs like everyone else. Minority rule is cringe. The invisible hand of the market naturally closes into a fist unless acted upon by a force. Majority rule and collective bargaining can be very forceful.

    • @danieljprice9317
      @danieljprice9317 Рік тому +7

      You don’t understand the point of fascism, then. Unfortunately, it’s been quite successful - as its entire function is to rescue capitalist property relations from a revolutionary moment in which the bourgeoisie is desperately hanging by a thread. Fascism is used when all other methods of containing the proletariat fail. This is why capitalism persists in Germany and Italy to this day - the tragic defeat of those revolutions in the ’20s & ‘30s.

    • @Alex.R.L
      @Alex.R.L Рік тому

      @@danieljprice9317 Fascism is used by a minority in-group to rule over majority out-groups. They take fasces, and hold it, and don't pass it off. (Fasces was a bundle of bound sticks used to represent power, like the conch in Lord of the Flies; the year's leaders held it, passing it between the two of them, this is what Mussolini was referencing).
      It's a tool of the nobility. Both the naturally "authoritarian minded" conservatives and the nobility are minorities and both want to rule from the minority. The nobles were spooked by the French Revolution and the wave of 1848 uprisings. Fascism was their solution to We the People. Our KKK was innovative. Lost cause myth, right?
      Socialism beats Neo Feudalism beats Fascism beats Socialism. Thats the deep truth. You see the billionaire funded Think Tanks fund the alt right so they can beat on the "woke CRT left." Fascism scatters the pitch forks. Unidentified pitch forks pull down nobles. In-groups narrow and consolidate power unto the old established institutions.
      The old families didn't go away.

  • @LD-tn6ff
    @LD-tn6ff Рік тому +9

    When she first entered politics as far back as inserting herself with role of the First Lady, she was honestly a force to be reckoned with. I truly believe in pure measure of IQ, that Hillary outpaces MOST currently in government. Post Bill Clinton Presidency, she really was a motivated leader on issues pertaining to healthcare, economic protections, etc, while maintaining a right wing foreign policy view. She's exacerbated her existing foreign policy views, but completely flopped on the other issues at the DIRECT request of donors - especially Wall Street. She recognized that this was the only way to get to the top at the time where special interests dictated politics, while rebutting this system would have hindered any possibilities of attaining real political power. (Just look at Bernie who remained ideologically pure, and spent his entire decades long career in politics on the sidelines without any real actual power prior to running for president.) Her objective was to utilize the existing political system to break the glass ceiling for women, rather than prioritize the necessity of changing the system itself outside of her feministic perview. People being introduced to this corrupt practice made people distrust her enormously. Knowing she was simultaneously smarter than most in government WHILE being corrupt created distrust among the electorate to even more significant levels.

    • @whentheleveebreaks4732
      @whentheleveebreaks4732 Рік тому +3

      Nah. She’s incredibly politically inept and personally repellent. She doesn’t give a damn about the issues you mentioned, as evidenced by her corporatist “solutions” to these problems. She only cared about advancing herself, her own power. Bottom line. Period. She’s also not terribly intelligent.

  • @emmy8526
    @emmy8526 Рік тому +5

    Vintage episode 139 is a good companion piece to this one:
    ua-cam.com/video/p1zqku-t5vo/v-deo.html

  • @ryanwbourquin
    @ryanwbourquin Рік тому +3

    I love Hillary ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @zackamania6534
      @zackamania6534 Рік тому

      I like HRC too. She would have been a more progressive president than Obama.

    • @darnokthemage170
      @darnokthemage170 Рік тому +1

      ❤❤❤❤amen sister❤❤❤❤

  • @xxcoopcoopxx
    @xxcoopcoopxx 3 місяці тому +1

    Ya'll fell for the Hil-dawg propaganda. Lol
    Hil-dawg isn't perfect.
    Trump is!
    We need perfection in politics. Always.

    • @berdyderg900
      @berdyderg900 2 місяці тому +2

      This video is literally them calling her demonic for 2.5 hours, is this just a bot? Why do chuds think that communists like liberals? They share your politics exclusively, not ours lol

    • @orionred2489
      @orionred2489 14 днів тому

      if you think djt is perfect, I'd hate to see what you think a grifter looks like.

    • @xxcoopcoopxx
      @xxcoopcoopxx 14 днів тому

      @@orionred2489 You didn't read the post.

  • @bingfannumberone
    @bingfannumberone 11 місяців тому +5

    3/23/01
    Due to the overwhelming number of requests I have received to tell about my discoveries and bizarre experiences in a cave not far from my home, I have created this web page. I will outline the events that happened to me during the past few months. Beginning with my journey into a familiar cave in December 2000 and ending… well, it hasn’t actually ended yet. I will use my caving journal as the text to tell about my recent experience. I will give them to you as I experienced them, in chronological order.
    I have included photographs that were taken during my many trips into the cave. I have also created a few illustrations to help the reader get a better idea of what things looked like in the cave. All of the photos were taken by me, or one of the few people I went into the cave with.
    I want to point out a few things before I tell about the events:
    1- Most of the pictures were taken with a Kodak disposable-type camera. I took a better camera into the cave on one or two of the trips. Pictures on this site are all original photos and have not been messed with or enhanced, other than where noted. As a rule, I get my pictures put onto disc at the time of developing so I don’t have to scan them later. This ensures the best digital quality.
    2- I will not reveal the names of the other people involved in this experience. If you know me well enough, you probably know them already.
    3- I will NOT reveal the location of the cave to ANYONE for ANY REASON! So please don’t ask! I refuse to be held accountable for anyone’s life but my own. I will refer to the cave as Mystery Cave. That is NOT its real name.
    If you think these events sound far-fetched, I agree. I would come to the same conclusion had I not experienced them.
    I will try to finish the site as soon as possible. Check the date on the main page to see when I’ve made updates.
    To protect myself from people who might want to copy this site, I include the following: All text on this and following pages are my own words and copyright 2001.
    Ted
    I will divide the text into two colors for the sake of clarity. The plain text is taken directly from my caving journal. The italicized text is my comment as I reflect on the experience. I will do my best to convey the thoughts and feelings I had during the entire event. I will not use the actual names of the other individuals involved. I will include the entire relevant text of my journal. Only small parts of the journal will I skip. This will only occur when the entry has nothing to do with the experience in the cave, such as eating dinner after a trip, getting fuel or snacks, irrelevant details, etc. (My journal is fairly thorough) I will merely summarize what I am cutting out of the actual entry.
    In an effort to present this experience in as accurate light as possible I will type my journal as I wrote it: sans grammar check. Please overlook my errors. My additional comments will help to clarify the things I wrote in my journal.
    Caving Journal 12/30/2000
    B and I decided to get in one more caving trip before the New Year, so we set our sights on Mystery Cave. Not a spectacular cave, but since neither of us had been caving in awhile it would be nice to go to any cave. There was a bit of excitement to this trip. There was a small passage in the lower portion of the cave that I wanted to check out to see if it was possible to get past it. It had a small opening, but lots of air blowing out of it. Even though it is way too small to climb through, I had never even checked to see what was inside the passage. We got our gear loaded up and hit the road by 3:00 p.m. We got to the cave in great time, since B likes to drive fast. We anchored from the usual tree and began to rappel into the cave. I went down first and got my gear together while B came down.
    I will refer to B many times. We have been caving together for many months now. He was injured in a caving accident a few years ago and was told he would never walk again. Through hard work and perseverance, he not only walks but can get around very well in caves. The trickier parts of a cave might slow him down a bit, but he can make it. He patiently works through an obstacle until he gets past it.
    As for the reference to the small opening in the cave, there is a saying among cavers: “If it blows, it goes”. Meaning, if a passage has a good flow of air, it is probably worth investigating.
    After we explored all of the usual passages we climbed down to check out the hole. The hole is located deep in the cave, near the lowest part of the cave. It is on the side of a cave wall, about three feet from the floor. To look inside the hole I had to kneel down to duck under an overhang of rock.
    The original opening. I put my glove in the hole for size reference.
    I used my backup mini-mag light and held it inside the hole to see what I could see. I was excited by what I saw. The wall around the hole was about 3-5 inches thick. It led into a tight passage. The passage opened up a bit just inside the hole. It continued back about 10-12 feet in a small crawl space. After that it seemed to really open up! Although how much we couldn’t tell. This could be a virgin passage. (Obviously, no one has passed through this route, but there could be a way into the passage from the other side.) To even get to the crawl space we would have to enlarge the opening. Currently, it is about the size of my fist. Once we get past the opening we would have a tight crawl back to where it opened up. It would take some work, but we thought we could do it. We sat down for a few minutes to rest and contemplate our plan of attack. While we sat there in the darkness we could hear the wind howling from the other side of the passage. It was a low, eerie noise. We could also hear a low rumble from time to time. No big deal, though. The cave is in the vicinity of a highway that has heavy trucks drive on it. We figured the rumble was the effect of the trucks resonating through the rocks.
    We determined that our best plan would be to haul a cordless drill into the cave to drill into the rock. Then we could take a bullpin and a small sledgehammer and break up the rock. It seemed pretty straight-forward. We would widen the hole big enough to squeeze in and see what was on the other side. The efforts to haul all of the equipment down to the hole would be a pain, but we hoped it would be worth it. I named the passage Floyd’s Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth.
    A rough drawing of how the passage originally looked.
    Floyd Collins was a caver back in the early 1900s. He got stuck in a tight crawl space and was unable to free himself. It is an amazing story that is detailed in a book called, “Trapped: The Story of Floyd Collins” (I think that was the title. I don’t recall the author). Calling our passage Floyd’s Tomb was not only a tribute to Floyd, but a commentary of the size of the passage.
    Ha Ha! In retrospect, it is funny how simple I thought it was going to be. I figured a few hours work and we would be in. Had I known how long it was going to take I doubt I would have even begun the project. Had I known what I was going to experience in the cave I never would have returned.
    We gathered up our gear and headed for the surface. Normally I couldn’t care less if I ever came back into this cave. There is nothing special about it. But now I was psyched about getting back and getting through. We hadn’t even left the cave and we were planning our return trip.
    (The rest of the journal entry talked about the climb out of the cave, our dinner, and our trip back home.)
    January 27-28, 2001
    B and I were both excited to get back into the cave and get to work. I figured with about 4 hours work we could be in and see what was on the other side. We had arranged to borrow a DeWalt cordless drill to bring with us. We also had masonry bits to drill with, sledgehammers (two) to break up the rock, bullpins to insert into the drill holes, and a few other tools that we ended up not using. Getting the tools down to the work site proved to be a challenge. One of us would climb down the rope and stop at a ledge or good resting place, then the other person would lower the tools. We kept repeating this routine until we got to the bottom of the cave. Then we had to drag the tools to the hole. It took about an hour to finally get to work.
    B took the first turn at the hole. After an hour of exhausting work, we could tell that we were not going to get through in one session. We kept trading off after we worked ourselves into a sweat. One would take a break and get some food and water while the other one went to work.