John you Josh and Willy are the best crew I have ever seen you work well together and get along with each other. Love when Josh says I would help you but I am holding the camera
Hey I've been around asv's for a good 12 years and I've noticed if someone doesn't tension that track up to where it needs to be and you do sharp turns it will hop and make a popping sound and that's what ruins that because I've seen plenty of older 100s and 120s with alot more hours doing fine just make sure you keep them tight and the inside track is exactly from the axles that was more common on 1 gens and 2nd gen asv you'll stand behind one and there track frame would be towed out so rides on the inside more
Pay those two guys well. From what I have seen they both work. Rare these days with young people. That is hard work and I don't hear any whining. They are not afraid to dive in and get greasy dirty and that is what it takes sometimes.........
Awesome job guys, just about to replace the axles on my 2007 Pt80 that has 3200 hrs, snapped a front one mulching after hitting a couple of big frozen anthills. Going to get the dealer to do mine as it's more than a one man job....... Love my Pt80 and boy has it worked hard the last 500hrs as I got it used with 2650 on it
love all your info John and crew......Im calling Asv monday about my axles. Hey, have you found any after market undercarage parts, like bear etc...thx agian for bustin a move ! lo
Good video guys it shows when you get down to it these machines are pretty simple to work on if you have the gear. In my experience ASV will never give out any info when it comes to repairing their machines. You Guys need to get onto BAIR Products in Kansas they do Alloy wheels for that machine and an upgrade for the 10" bogies so you don't have to take the whole assembly off to change a wheel. They also do the replacement drive lugs so you can get every last hour out of the tracks. We change our drive sprocket rollers @ 1000 hrs +/- to avoid breaking the drive lugs off and wearing the sprockets down like yours have done. We have found that when you let them wear down so bad eventually the sprocket will break out on the ends and leave you broken down on the job.
ASV undercarriage is piss poor design..all three of my. Machines 2 RC 30's...and my RC 50 after 10 yrs and less than 1000 hours the drive lugs tear off..if they only incorporated the Kevlar webbing into the drive lug would that limit the drive lug tear off
Hey John, this is Jay that used to work for CCE a few years back. Hope everything is going good. I just wanted to say this video is really well done. Good work to you and your crew.
That is awesome that you teach your guys how to repair the machine. Also, get some real jack stands before you kill Willy. It only takes one slip or busted jack and that machine will crush Willy and those jack stands.
Mechanical tensioner seem to be work the best,it stays tight especially on a machine with this much weight you will throw a track, grease expands and contracts to much with the temp outside
John, the wear on the inside of the tracks is most likely from the axels. There was a recall on the axles on the 2017 & 2018 model's. They replaced my axles under warranty and the tracks i had to buy. The only reason I knew about the recall was because of my salesperson I bought from. Shout out to JT from Quality Forklift in MN. My tracks were out at under 900hrs
@@rockway63 they have known about the bad rubber for a long time. They just want you to try and make it past the 1000/hr mark, then it's on us to pay for the repairs.
@@tiptoplandsolutions1421 you'd have to get with your dealer, they made me measure the gaps on the rubber housing's and send them pictures of the distances, and of my hour meter to prove i was under the 1000 mark
Just did this, this weekend to severely ASV we have. From my experience its best to buy the whole quarrel cage assembly from your dealer. The metal holding the bolts thins as the roller wheels elongates after hours of use. After about 100 hours of use on the new rollers the bolts will rip out of the cage. Replacing the cages sooner saves the tracks from ripping the tits of the bottom of the track. The space that the tit rides in on the quarrel cage has changed due to wear, and causing it not be properly aligned on the track. This produces a grabbing action on the track.
@@JeffrikOG9 I have a dead blow sledge hammer once the back wheel is off just have machine on wood and drive foward while stirking the track it will roll of inside back wheel
I run to RC 50s like a madman gravel rocks vertical drop offs in the creek out of the creek blazing hot freezing cold , super dirty sometimes , big rubber chunks missing from all over i’m happy with the mileage I’m getting from tracks and undercarriage I only get pissed off when the front idler wheels and the rear idler wheels wipe out The bearings they get loose and you can’t tell and that is too late . as a maintenance standpoint I found it’s good to loosen up the track all the way while it’s in the air on horses and grab the wheels and see if there’s any side to side movement to try to catch it early
Thanks for the great videos on your ASV 120F. I just took delivery of my 120F with a DAF cutter head yesterday. This is my third mulching machine. I have 2 Gyro Tracks and both are very high maintenance machines. I like the lower protective/tow plate you installed in the rear. I'm going to put one on my machine right away. Is there any chance you could post a couple of pictures of how that is attached?
Good job, that cracked me up when y’all where beatin the hell outta that axle and it still had a bolt in place!! Lmao, it’s just good to know that kinda stuff doesn’t happen to just me. Good job, very helpful.
How many hours did that have and how much did this cost? Edit: I just saw the end of it, 2,000 hours ain't bad but how much was the repair im looking at asv, this is the main concern I have with them is the complex undercarriage. I don't see why the axles should bend
If it's man made John and the boys can fix or maintain it. Good job guys, you make maintenance look so easy. Take care, may God bless you and your families.
@@UpstateBrushControl good ,12 hours of cutting 6am till 6:30 tonight longggggg day, going back tomorrow after church ,he is meeting me down ther to get a game plan together
How dose it do like pushing a tandem of gravel or dirt? Got a tl12v2, but was looking at one of these machines because of the motor lol just herd bad story’s about there undercarriage and tracks when pushing all of heavy materiel
Always enjoy watching your vedios. M going to buy a skid steer and forest mulcher. I'm watching you to learn how it's done and watching your equipment to know what to buy. I'm only going to work cleaning my farm so it won't be as much work on the machines as you do. Thanks, your crew and you are great! Will
Up in the air about ASV, hows is this turning out to be? and what is the rough cost to do all of this undercarriage work, honestly seems somewhat simple, little tedious but every 2000 hours isnt bad, thats alot of hours.
Thanks for the video. Am looking into getting a used ASV RT 50 or 75 to use on hilly terrain and wanted to get a sense of what typical maintenance is like for parts and needed tools. This does a good job at detailing tools and space needed for the drive system, plus the expected wear after of a lot of side hill work.
to stop the nut coming off or becoming loose what we have done in the past is drill a small hole through the nut and assembly and put a Pin through it in stead of welding just an idea or you could get a lock nut that will fit....Great video guys ...Stay Safe
These inside lugs should be reinforced with steel. Inside edges, I can't think of a method of limiting wear but there's some pretty clever mechanics out there who can.
kudos bestowed upon you and your team for doing this job yourself and not paying out the ying yang to get it done...speaks volumes on your dedication to making your company viable
Upstate Brush Control yes the ride control is very good but to me it seems there is a lot of up keep compared to other manufacturers . For what we have ran into in snowy Minnesota
@@UpstateBrushControl my new 870 is pretty smooth. Not as smooth as my Terex but smooth enough with less maintenance. But T870 may not have the Hp you need.
John you Josh and Willy are the best crew I have ever seen you work well together and get along with each other. Love when Josh says I would help you but I am holding the camera
I really am liking how easy it looks to work on these ASV CTLs. Making me really think this is the brand to go with.
They are!
Hey I've been around asv's for a good 12 years and I've noticed if someone doesn't tension that track up to where it needs to be and you do sharp turns it will hop and make a popping sound and that's what ruins that because I've seen plenty of older 100s and 120s with alot more hours doing fine just make sure you keep them tight and the inside track is exactly from the axles that was more common on 1 gens and 2nd gen asv you'll stand behind one and there track frame would be towed out so rides on the inside more
Pay those two guys well. From what I have seen they both work. Rare these days with young people. That is hard work and I don't hear any whining. They are not afraid to dive in and get greasy dirty and that is what it takes sometimes.........
I love your philosophy, “Don’t force things, just use a bigger hammer.”
Dummy me forgot that bolt 🤪
Awesome video. It was so good it made me a subscriber.
6:45 put a layer of paper towel over the extension and then put the socket on. No more dropped socket
Well done with the repair. But what will the mother say when the boy comes home so dirty with light trousers? laughing Nice greetings from Germany
Thank you this post is Lurning me so much about ASV SKID STEER IS it same for ASV 135 THIS WEAR EVERY 500 HOURS
Dang socket!!
Awesome job guys, just about to replace the axles on my 2007 Pt80 that has 3200 hrs, snapped a front one mulching after hitting a couple of big frozen anthills. Going to get the dealer to do mine as it's more than a one man job....... Love my Pt80 and boy has it worked hard the last 500hrs as I got it used with 2650 on it
Good job fella's!
love all your info John and crew......Im calling Asv monday about my axles.
Hey, have you found any after market undercarage parts, like bear etc...thx agian for bustin a move ! lo
I checked both aftermarket and ASV it is about the same price.
@@UpstateBrushControl Thx.....happy days to u ALL..
Quick question where are the jack points on this skid steer
What a pain. But I guess it has to be done sooner rather then later.
How many hours were on the machine when you replaced all that stuf
How do you tilt the cab? How about doing a video on that. I have a PT 110F and can’t figure out how to get it to tilt.
How many hours on Rt-120F better be a bunch for 100K skid steer. 2000 hrs. in your conditions not bad.
2010 hrs
How old is your machine and how many hours. Thanks. I am considering getting one
how many hours are on the machine to need that much undercarriage work already?
What kind of wear was on the axles? Can they be refurbished?
Still happy with the ASV?
Hey Josh!! Where's the loctite for those bolts??? Hmmmmmmmm
If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer. (Except for Josh, he swings a hammer like an old lady.)
Where are your air tools
I learned long ago to always pressure wash FIRST.
First
2nd
Oh wow I hear people. Lol
Drill the axle nut in situ and lock wire or put a castellated nut on with a split pin?
Hey John, just curious. Approximately what was the cost of these repairs? It looked like is was a lot!
About 3000$ maybe
Nvm maybe more 😂
If I had to guess, from my research on replacing the undercarrage on a rt50, I would say around 5000-6000 dollars.
I have a similar set up can't get the track to slide off any recommendations. Was pulling with skid steer put heat no luck
Good video guys it shows when you get down to it these machines are pretty simple to work on if you have the gear. In my experience ASV will never give out any info when it comes to repairing their machines.
You Guys need to get onto BAIR Products in Kansas they do Alloy wheels for that machine and an upgrade for the 10" bogies so you don't have to take the whole assembly off to change a wheel. They also do the replacement drive lugs so you can get every last hour out of the tracks.
We change our drive sprocket rollers @ 1000 hrs +/- to avoid breaking the drive lugs off and wearing the sprockets down like yours have done. We have found that when you let them wear down so bad eventually the sprocket will break out on the ends and leave you broken down on the job.
ASV undercarriage is piss poor design..all three of my. Machines 2 RC 30's...and my RC 50 after 10 yrs and less than 1000 hours the drive lugs tear off..if they only incorporated the Kevlar webbing into the drive lug would that limit the drive lug tear off
Have Somebody get you some black tape and tape the socket on the ext. Lol
How many hours on the unit?
2000
They said in 1 part of the video nearer the end 2009 =)
2009hrs mentioned near the end of the video
Nice work on everything, productive shop days setting you up for this season are the best.
Hey John, this is Jay that used to work for CCE a few years back. Hope everything is going good. I just wanted to say this video is really well done. Good work to you and your crew.
Yes things are going well, we are staying busy.Are you still turning wrenches ?
Glad to see the bit and extension don't keep falling out just for me.
I end up putting a piece of duct tape to hold it on when it keeps happening.
That is awesome that you teach your guys how to repair the machine. Also, get some real jack stands before you kill Willy. It only takes one slip or busted jack and that machine will crush Willy and those jack stands.
J Bone it was definitely safe. We had 8 jack stands and 3 jack lifts holding it. I wasn’t too worried.
I use the Sunex 20ton pin jack stands. You’ll make great videos. Keep them coming.
How many hours on your machine ?
Would you prefer the tensioner with grease or the mechanical system on ASV?
Mechanical tensioner seem to be work the best,it stays tight especially on a machine with this much weight you will throw a track, grease expands and contracts to much with the temp outside
I like the mechanical system its pretty simple.
HEY MAN, turn it down its way too loud now! Oops, sorry, that's my volume. 🥴😄😄😄
Ha ha 🙂
How many hours did you get out of those tracks before you had to replace them?
You guys do a great job and always seem to have a smile on your faces . A great team always makes a job fun to .✌
Boy, that sure was a lot of work. Reminds me of working on my 65 mustang
John, the wear on the inside of the tracks is most likely from the axels. There was a recall on the axles on the 2017 & 2018 model's. They replaced my axles under warranty and the tracks i had to buy. The only reason I knew about the recall was because of my salesperson I bought from. Shout out to JT from Quality Forklift in MN. My tracks were out at under 900hrs
I was just out of warranty and ASV said to just keep running my bent axle
@@rockway63 they have known about the bad rubber for a long time. They just want you to try and make it past the 1000/hr mark, then it's on us to pay for the repairs.
@@fergusonlandmanagementweld1039Hey there... Was wondering if Asv would cover replacement before warranty ends without bent axle yet...
🤞 thx
@@tiptoplandsolutions1421 you'd have to get with your dealer, they made me measure the gaps on the rubber housing's and send them pictures of the distances, and of my hour meter to prove i was under the 1000 mark
How many hours were on the machine at this point? I am contemplating getting an RT75, but seeing all these failures is making me think twice
Did u end up getting one? I’m in the same boat just a year later than you
Removal of that front idler is key! Thanks for this, I used this at work today lmao.
Just did this, this weekend to severely ASV we have. From my experience its best to buy the whole quarrel cage assembly from your dealer. The metal holding the bolts thins as the roller wheels elongates after hours of use. After about 100 hours of use on the new rollers the bolts will rip out of the cage. Replacing the cages sooner saves the tracks from ripping the tits of the bottom of the track. The space that the tit rides in on the quarrel cage has changed due to wear, and causing it not be properly aligned on the track. This produces a grabbing action on the track.
How are you getting the track itself off?
@@JeffrikOG9 I have a dead blow sledge hammer once the back wheel is off just have machine on wood and drive foward while stirking the track it will roll of inside back wheel
Were having a problem with ours, the tracks keep flopping off even though everything is tight and as spec.
Not sure what's going on there never heard of an ASV track coming off.
We have 3 of them, all rt 30's and they all are doing it almost every other jobsite. Only 3-4thousand hours. Just puzzles me a bit
I run to RC 50s like a madman gravel rocks vertical drop offs in the creek out of the creek blazing hot freezing cold , super dirty sometimes , big rubber chunks missing from all over i’m happy with the mileage I’m getting from tracks and undercarriage I only get pissed off when the front idler wheels and the rear idler wheels wipe out The bearings they get loose and you can’t tell and that is too late . as a maintenance standpoint I found it’s good to loosen up the track all the way while it’s in the air on horses and grab the wheels and see if there’s any side to side movement to try to catch it early
Top job top team awesome thanks use plenty of Greece y'all stay safe out there bud peace
Thanks for the great videos on your ASV 120F. I just took delivery of my 120F with a DAF cutter head yesterday. This is my third mulching machine. I have 2 Gyro Tracks and both are very high maintenance machines. I like the lower protective/tow plate you installed in the rear. I'm going to put one on my machine right away. Is there any chance you could post a couple of pictures of how that is attached?
We just bolted and welded it on.
Good job, that cracked me up when y’all where beatin the hell outta that axle and it still had a bolt in place!! Lmao, it’s just good to know that kinda stuff doesn’t happen to just me. Good job, very helpful.
Ha! Happens to the best of us!
What in the world would cause those axels to go bad???
The camera operator has a soft voice and sounds cute. Heeeeeyyyy lol
hard work good job guys satisfaction for brand new 😁🚜
Suggestion: Clean, cut up, and sign the old tracks and sell/auction the pieces off.
How many hours did that have and how much did this cost?
Edit: I just saw the end of it, 2,000 hours ain't bad but how much was the repair im looking at asv, this is the main concern I have with them is the complex undercarriage. I don't see why the axles should bend
In my experience the price on the undercarriage with this machine and other machines that I have had is not far off. These axles are a new design.
@@UpstateBrushControl ah. I saw other comments saying there was a recall on them. Is the asv overall a good machine for you? Reliable?
If it's man made John and the boys can fix or maintain it. Good job guys, you make maintenance look so easy. Take care, may God bless you and your families.
Thanks, but that definitely wasn't easy 🤪
How many hours on the undercarriage and machine?
Wow big undertaking great job John. I bet she is going to run like brand new ..... love new tracks,great video
She better! How did the bush hog job go?
@@UpstateBrushControl good ,12 hours of cutting 6am till 6:30 tonight longggggg day, going back tomorrow after church ,he is meeting me down ther to get a game plan together
Good job 👍
Any new equipment purchases in the works for this year?
Maybe a small dozer.
How dose it do like pushing a tandem of gravel or dirt? Got a tl12v2, but was looking at one of these machines because of the motor lol just herd bad story’s about there undercarriage and tracks when pushing all of heavy materiel
That socket just did not want to play nice
How many hours do you guys have on the machine when you guys replaced the axles and wheels and the tracks
2000 hrs
Holy Jesus that socket falling off ! How much did you save by doing the repairs yourself vs the dealer doing it?
Always enjoy watching your vedios. M going to buy a skid steer and forest mulcher. I'm watching you to learn how it's done and watching your equipment to know what to buy. I'm only going to work cleaning my farm so it won't be as much work on the machines as you do. Thanks, your crew and you are great!
Will
How does the plate covering the squirrel cage come off? I’m trying to replace my whole assembly and can’t figure out the plate
Up in the air about ASV, hows is this turning out to be? and what is the rough cost to do all of this undercarriage work, honestly seems somewhat simple, little tedious but every 2000 hours isnt bad, thats alot of hours.
This machine seems relatively accessible and repairable. Would you recommend ASV over Bobcat, Deere, Cat, Kubota, Takeuchi, etc?
I would like to know just how long this 32 min video actually took? 5-6 hrs I'm guessing.
It was about 10 hrs
@@UpstateBrushControl WOW, Longer than I thought. I like the videos, keep them coming.
You guys are Jack of all trades but master of none 😂😂😂😂😂😂😱😱😱🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘🐨🐨
Thanks for the video. Am looking into getting a used ASV RT 50 or 75 to use on hilly terrain and wanted to get a sense of what typical maintenance is like for parts and needed tools. This does a good job at detailing tools and space needed for the drive system, plus the expected wear after of a lot of side hill work.
to stop the nut coming off or becoming loose what we have done in the past is drill a small hole through the nut and assembly and put a Pin through it in stead of welding just an idea or you could get a lock nut
that will fit....Great video guys ...Stay Safe
These inside lugs should be reinforced with steel. Inside edges, I can't think of a method of limiting wear but there's some pretty clever mechanics out there who can.
kudos bestowed upon you and your team for doing this job yourself and not paying out the ying yang to get it done...speaks volumes on your dedication to making your company viable
I have a ASV PT-80...where did you get your tracks, and parts??
I never did like the track drive on the ASV that bird cage isn't good way my opinion .
It's definitely the smoothest ride out there. Love the ASV track system.
Upstate Brush Control yes the ride control is very good but to me it seems there is a lot of up keep compared to other manufacturers . For what we have ran into in snowy Minnesota
@@UpstateBrushControl my new 870 is pretty smooth. Not as smooth as my Terex but smooth enough with less maintenance. But T870 may not have the Hp you need.
No way to add some grease to those drive gear sleeves eh?
Why didn't you take it to the carwash prior to going to the shop then you wouldn't have all that dirt on the floor
Any particular reason you're not sharing the approximate cost of this maintenance? Lol
Y no hubiera sido mejor si la hubieses limpiado antes con una maquina de agua a presión?
How about Drilling a hole threw the shaft and put a cotter pin in to keep the nut from coming off.
I watch all of your video's how much did that job cost you to replace all of that?
120 Could do with a powerwash after its all back together 😂
This makes me scared of the asv undercarriage. How many hours in before you had to do this and what was the final cost? Thinking of purchasing a 120.
Never mind on hours, heard at the tail end....2009 lol
i like watch your site and it skiploader used a bobcat skid in 1982
If you don't mind me asking how much did all that cost?
Dez
6
You need to get a little more lighting when working underneath on these things.
get rid of that junk that much work and money for what
At least hose the thing off before you work on it. lol
thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
How much all that cost you
I don't give out my pricing.
Do you guys do oil changes lol and check the tires
You guys make a tough job look like fun.
How much did you have in parts?