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It’s disgusting the prices we are paying for basic internet services…
If they want more people to upgrade from the 50mbps Unlimited NBN plan to the 100, it's simple... Charge less. They're not going to sucker me by charging $10 less than I'm paying now for the first 6 months of a 100 plan, then $10 more after and Im not going to pay $10 more a month for something I already think is wildly overpriced.
This is true, they should charge less and all these 'sign up and get 6 months discounted" are a joke tbh...then again in the NBN eyes if you can afford $70-80 a month for 50mb plan...how can't you afford $90 for 100mb plan? I sort of can't blame them here. Its like someone buying a 60-70k+ plus turbo/performance car but they cant afford to put in 98 octane fuel, and only put in 95 or 91 lol
@@wtf22playa56 Can I afford a slight increase? Yes, if I cut something else back. Am I willing to? No.
As I said, I believe it's already overpriced and so I'll put the same question to all these NBN Internet Service Providers that I put to every greedy company trying to squeeze an unreasonable amount of money from me... Do you want SOME of my money or do you want NONE of my money?
@@wtf22playa56 Can I afford a slight increase? Yes, if I cut something else back.
Am I willing to? No.
As I said, I believe it's already overpriced and so I'll put the same question to all these NBN Internet Service Providers that I put to every greedy company trying to squeeze an unreasonable amount of money from me... Do you want SOME of my money or do you want NONE of my money?
Its a problem with the government. If the gov wants it that way, they will get it. But if they dont care, nothing will change. I know its like comparing apples and oranges but in malaysia this year they impose another mandatory speed upgrades for fiber. Even if they bicker about 5G for years but fibre still great.
So my internet has gone from 10mbps(minimum plan) on fiber when I was in college to 100mbps in 2018 to 300mbps this year 2024. All in the same plan price.
100% we paid for the friggin thing..pricing is a joke and a slap in the face to the tax payer..lift ya game polies
"We are absolutely confident that 25 megs is going to be enough, more than enough, for the average household." ~ Tony Abbott, 2013
Could have gone FTTP cheaper and sooner.
that's false...going full FTTP would have cost 200+ bil and they still be building it. Want proof?..within 12 months of Labor original 70bil plan to fibre the whole country based on $4500 per household, one place in armidale cost $90k to connect, another in Tassie cost over 250K...so right there your budget is already over by 340k. Criticise the LNP FFTN plan all you want..fine..but Labors original plan...like literally all there other policies are a money sucking enterprise with no end in sight..eg NDIS
i was gonna mention this quote. They botched our network hard and 93% of the country couldve been on FTTP by now. Now they're wasting more money upgrading the network when it should've been done right the first time
lovely..YT deleted my comment.... your statement is a lie. Fibre for whole country would have cost over 200bil and they would still be building it...i've give you details but YT will just delete my comment again
The LNP wanted to "own" the NBN that Labor initiated, by claiming their solution was faster and cheaper to roll out. It was technically inferior, and ended up costing taxpayers way more. It was either a lie, or they were just totally incompetent. Or both.
@@Herkimer_Snerd another lie..but you won't see this comment because the mod will delete it
As someone who works for NBN I can advise you that, increasing your plan will NOT:
- improve stability
- cost you less money
- increase your download/upload speed if you are limited by the copper you are on or the overloaded wireless cell you are on for fixed wireless customers
I would advise only considering a plan increase if you are on fiber to the premesis or if your ISP has completed testing to assure you that significant speed increases are possible on your service type
Or HFC, which works fine.
Anyone on VDSL should have their line tested before increasing their plans over 50 Mbps as they may not reach speeds higher than that.
Thanks for sharing this information
I despair for you Aussies - in NZ the “standard” fibre speed is now 300Mbps down and 100 up for as little as $70. Basic 50/20 is price capped at $60, while 1000/500 is around $100, and we have symmetrical consumer & business grade “Hyperfibre” plans up to 8Gbps on a 100% congestion free network.
Yeah but i've seen your mobile phone data plans. Swings and roundabouts. $62/m for 50GB on the most expensive mobile (excl satellite etc) provider in the country here.
@@fenix849 currently paying $55 for unlimited texts/calls and 160GB of data with rollover and unlimited international texts and calls(within like 30 countries or something)
@@fenix849this is in Australia
@@fenix849 NZ also has unlimited data LTE broadband plans for around same price as 300mbps fibre. This has pretty good coverage at 700MHz for rural users.
This is what happens when the Aus government focus on politics instead of good policies.
I'd love to upgrade to [insert reasonable speed here], meanwhile my 50 down NBN plan can't even break 30 down. How about they try fixing the bullshit infrastructure they put in first?
They being the Liberal Party of Australia. They and the Nationals asked in federal parliament “why do we need to be able to send emails faster?” 🙄 They said fibre to the premises was too expensive and to cut a long story short, we are now left with a third world iteration of internet speed.
and the biggest joke was, it had already been paid for, the libs just refused to do it "Labors way" just BECAUSE "labors plan"@@teeanahera8949
If you're not getting what is advertised then I would suggest calling your provider for maintenance. If nothing happens, submit a complaint to the ACCC or change provider
Check they are not throttling the speed on you had a similar issue with Optus a few years ago before I switched. Speeds were slow called and complained person on phone said ohh we are throttling the speed to improve for less dropouts in the area.
@@phillipruus1812Thank you. Unfortunately it's a suburb issue. They installed infrastructure to meet a minimum legal level of service. There's nothing ISPs can do about it. Until the NBN improves the infrastructure we are stuck with something approaching what would have been ADSL2 services. FTTN is the pits.
In the USA this month (March 15, 2024), the FCC changed their definition of the term "broadband" to mean download speeds of 100Mbps and upload speeds of 20Mbps.
Everyone is under assumption that the USA is some kind of broadband paradise... much like Australia, outside of urban areas, your choice is 4g/5g or Starlink. Much of Australia already has 1Gbps NBN avaiable via HFC or FTTP (with FTTC areas offering a free upgrade to fibre drops and FTTN being phased out). I am sorry, but none at home NEEDs more than 1Gbps, the only thing I see lacking now is the 50Mbps upload speed offered on consumer NBN plans.
@@zoltrix7779I am honestly of the exact same opinion but haven't really known how to articulate it. The real insane part of australia's nbn is the upload...
@@zoltrix7779 I would sign up for something better than NBN's 1 Gbps tomorrow.
I had gigabit fibre when I lived in Florida in 2008 bro. That's over 15 years ago.
Have ya ever had to resync a Steam Library or used a backup service like Backblaze to backup your data on a daily basis? Pretty important for any content creator.
I'm sorry that you still think it's 2010, but the tech moved on quite a while ago. Just like they thought Australian's wouldn't use netflix. Then news flash, it was simply the lack of availability. Increasing internet infrastructure would be a boon for the country as it has been consistently everywhere, every time. Because they faster and more reliably a country can communicate, the better it can do business and compete in the global marketplace.
So why are you rooting against Australia because new technology scares you? There's a reason why businesses don't want second rate services like Starlink. How do I know? I have to remotely support clients that have them, it's a slide show, or should I say a shit show? Most seem to hate it, wish they had a wire that actually worked.
We discovered a few weeks ago our 5G from Optus was slowing down. We used to get over 100 but it was barely making 15-20. Forget upload completely. We work from home and my husband especially needs reliable connection and speed working in IT. Called to find out why this was happening and Optus told us after some testing and loads of time on the phone that the tower close to us had been decommissioned and that the closest tower was over a hill in the next city. Optus didn't tell any of their customers here. Not a peep. They offered a slower speed plan for the same cost we originally signed up for. We told them to kick rocks and switched to Exetel. I'd never go back to Optus. Way too much run around and lack of communication.
Just discovered your channel and have subscribed. Thanks!
Why do people of NEED high speed broadband for import work services rely on such garbage consumer products and then whinge about it. 4g/5g internet doesn't have guarantees of speed, your issues could be caused by a million factors internet If it was SO important to work, you can find much better solution.
@@zoltrix7779Piss off and continue handing out flyers for your mates in the LNP.
About 30 years ago I was billed $8 for a 30 minute mobile phone call at a time I was in a plane over the middle of the pacific. They didn't want to talk and since that billing cycle I moved to a different provider and have never gone back.
As a pensioner I cannot afford any increase whatsoever. So If and when that happens I will be looking for another ISP
You did this to yourself, probably an LNP voter.
@@proctiv5488 Thank you for your love and understanding.
@@proctiv5488 what an idiotic comment. considering labor have inflated the price of everything in the last couple of years i dunno how your tiny brain came to the conclusion that the lnp is somehow at fault for current price increases
@@proctiv5488 The whole political system needs to be taken dowm. Wake up people , two wings of the same corrupt bird. Time for Aussies to take their country back
@@proctiv5488 I legit think the same thing . All the pensioners complaining about their pension not being enough are from
The same generations that heavily voted in liberals and voted for poor social systems lol
Private Equity Funds ALWAYS screw customers to MAXimise profits. That is what they do. So no focus on customers.
If they want to get more people to adopt higher speeds, offer higher UPLOAD speeds on consumer plans.
There are many creatives you need to upload large amounts of data and 50 Mbps doesn't cut it.
Few people really need more than 50Mbps upload. Those creatives are a minority and should pay for higher plans. I bet users who need to use more than 50Mbps are less than 5% of the customer base.
@@Coz131 1. I never said users who wanted a higher upload speed shouldn’t pay more, but currently there are NO consumer NBN plans that even offer higher than 50 mbps upload speeds and the business plans that do offer higher upload speeds are many times more expensive.
2. Please post your reference to the data showing creatives only make up 5% of the market.
It’s also not just creatives, it’s consumers who want to perform large cloud backups, cloud sync large photos libraries containing RAW photos and videos.
I am not asking for symmetrical speed (which NZ and many other countries offer), just higher upload speeds in consumer plans.
Also the NBN wants more uptake on faster plans.
Taking myself as an example, I want higher upload speeds; I wouldn’t use higher download speeds than 100 Mbps.
So I am currently on a 100/40 plan.
I have no reason to move to 1000/50 for 10 extra Mbps of upload speed.
But if they offered higher upload speeds, such as 500/200 for the same cost as 1000/50 I would change immediately.
But they don’t and the business plans that offer 500/200 are far more expensive than the consumer 1000/50 plans.
There AREN'T many 'creatives'. Its a dumb ass term anyway. Some twit uploading youtube videos ISN'T a creative. Regardless, a full-fibre system was what we were promised and voted for, and that prick Abbott screwed the whole country over to save his mate's failing foxtel empire. The system has now cost billions more than just doing it with fibre in the first place and we are an absolute joke internationally with out slower-than-Mongilia network.
@@Coz131oh crap. Seriously? I need to upload my photos, documents, projects etc and waiting 7 hours to do so is unproductive! No, I’m not a “creative”. Just someone who values their time and resources.
Legit man, and the thing is that I'm not even getting 20 up, its like 13 up at all times.
Absolutely sucks
My current NBN service is only capable of a maximum of 41 MB/s down. I currently pay for a NBN 50/20 service. If NBN want to abolish the 50 MB/s plans then good luck to them, but unless they are willing to deal with the necessary 'last mile' cable upgrades to ensure the service is actually delivered I'm not paying $0.01 extra.
They upped my fixed wireless plan to 75/10 & i really am getting those speeds, they upgraded something & my speedtest is now over 60Mbps download. Keep onto them until you get what you're paying for
By law if they want to discontinue a service they must move you at no extra costs to a new service
I pay for 100, get 70 tops..
@@frankryan2505 That's the same for many many people as well as what I ever had with 100Mbps deals, even with a FTTP connection.
I pay for 50 and get 55.
NBN tiers are a model of the past, they drive business overheads every connection should be 1Gb fibre and then provide services over the top.
How insane that they are trying to recover money.
agreed.. fiber everywhere..
Was then plan. Then folks voted Liberal.
Brookfield is more likely to strip the assets and then IPO what is left. That is leave shareholders with a loss making company.
A private corporation (name unknown) in a large cherry picker removed the optus cables between poles last Tuesday in Melbourne. It then cut the cables at the house at ground level and threw the rest up on the roof tiles. An optus letter saying we did/we did not remove the cable but provided an optus phone number to call to have the last piece and the roof bracket removed...as all previous correspondence had been ignored, which was complete BS. I called the number and a fillipino didn't have any knowledge of it and didn't know why they were doing it...AND that i was not on their system as i hadn't used optus for several years. My thought was that the nbn were removing the cables as optus had sold the 'network' but as mentioned, it was an optus letter head. I'm still trying to work out what is going on and how to fix it. Really badly handled and difficult to fix when people barely speak english.
NBNCo, or 'we the people' via our taxes the Libs were happy to throw at Optus Shareholders, forked out about $880 MILLION for Optus' HFC network that was NOT fit for purpose for the new NBN, and they knew it before giving them almost a BILLION dollars. Labor simply bypassed Telstra, Foxtel and Optus and wasn't going to give them a cent for their networks at all (apart from buying Pit, Pipef and Duct access from Telstra, NOT the old copper network). So, NBNCo is who owns that unable to be used HFC cable.
I have 50meg on Optus. I like it as it is. Why should I be forced to pay more to upgrade for speed I don't need.
You’re not being forced upgrade you can say on the same plan. It just doesn’t make much sense for new customers to purchase that plan any more because they can spend 2 to 3 dollars more to double the speed.
Better infrastructure.
If I was on the 50Mb FTTN plan for $80 and they said upgrade to the 100Mb plan for $90 and we will upgrade your infrastructure to FTTP for free, I WOULD DIVE ON THE OFFER INSTANTLY.
FTTP is the BEST infrastructure you can be on BY FAR.
Limitless speed potencial, lowest latency, superior reliability, lowest maintenance, not limited to distance from premises to fibre trunk., etc etc etc.
Just change to a cheaper provider? This is why we have competition.
@@zoltrix7779 Cheaper RSP is not always the best.
My friend was with Superloop and because of money problems couldn't afford the price, so decided to go with Dodo to save $20 per month.
When was connected and all up and running, the latency was double and the speed was a lot slower.
Tried to do all the troubleshooting and replacing cables, routers, line in, pit renew, etc etc etc and only slightly improved things but not to the extend of what they had with Superloop.
So long story short, "cheaper" RSP is not aleways the best and you get what you pay for. (majority of the time)
My unit is one of two in this 35+ complex that was built without NBN infrastructure.
Not even connected to copper.
Landlord says if I want it that I have to pay for it myself and leave it in place and intact when I vacate.
Upload speeds are pitiful, I swear we need to do something drastic, download speeds are nearly useless given how little fibre we have to overseas.
I am one of those low speed customers, on a 25MB Telstra service. I grew up with an 8 bit computer on a 300bps dialup line, so 25MB is quite quick for me. I can stream all I like with no problems, not into online gaming, so the benefits of an upgrade are minimal, so why waste the $$$
You pay way too much for Telstra’s 25Mbps, it’s capped data too if I remember. It seriously shouldn’t cost more than $50 imo
I’m paying $100 for 50mbs
@@LindyKnight Switch provider. You’re paying too much!
@@SavageChip810 I get home phone calls included
@@SavageChip810 I kind of preferred capped, that way I would not get any surprise bills for excess data, not that I've ever bumped into their limits. They keep extending them just in time for me finding reason to use more.
Yes it could be a bit cheaper, however it's near half what I used to pay pre NBN, now the wife can sit on the land line all day yaking to her mother and it costs no more as it's now voip and unless I call overseas (which I don't) that part is kind of free.
We need better upload speeds on home nbn plans unless there is a legit physical limitation
I was on the Home 100/20 CGNAT plan and discovered you can increase your upload from 20 to 40 UP as I've done on the home plan. However these 40 UP plans are often hiding on the provider pages. The extra upload speed does come at a significant price increase of up to $15 /m with a static IP extra cost of $5/m. Upload speeds needed for uploading videos to UA-cam or downloading from your home NAS via the Internet. (Home NAS Equiv Upload speed is limiting your download from NAS when away from Home).
I don’t need greater speeds. 50mbps is enough to get video; I don’t need more. What I need is to pay less. Everything is getting too expensive!
Heck! We downgraded from 50 to 25 as we only stream Netflix at SD and my phone for UA-cam. E.g. we were wasting money and bandwidth. Charge less!
Luck those who have options. I've been on NBN for over 10 years, via Fixed Wireless, the *only* option avail in Sth Tasmania. (apart from Starlink).
The best speed 10 years ago was 25/5.
The best speed now is 25/5.
NBN report there are no speed upgrades planned for the next 5 years at least.
15 years with no performance upgrades.. and the price is basically the same over the last 10 years.
I suspect this makes Australia's rural NBN the least upgraded internet service in the world. Antarctica and the Moon have had network speed upgrades in that time.. .
I work in video so large uploads. It's quicker to drive to the capital city and upload from there.
Optus are continuously breaking the law & getting fined. Last week they got fined again, could this have been the last straw for Singtel ?
Reminds me of Onetel
No way should our communications companies be sold to overseas..
So they want to force customers onto to 100mbps plans but the telcos in Australia don't guarantee any minimum speeds. So, there's every chance that you'll get your 'upgraded' service and pay more money for the privilege only to end up with the same low speeds during peak times.
With the FCC’s recent decision to require a minimum speed of 100/20 to be called Broadband all plans should just start at 100 now
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Thanks mate much appreciated:)
This is a great video, I recently started working with Telcos in Australia through an Outsourcing company and this video is actually informative for a person like me working in this field.
I can't stand Optus so I'm not sure how a "new direction" would change my opinion of it.
Singtel was very soundly ripped off when they bought Optus. Even under new management unless they have a comprehensive cleanout of existing managers I don't think anything much will change.
Gladys can be thanked.
I had telstra Cable. Lived around Greenslopes area of Brisbane. as NBN came in, I was paying about 100 bucks for 100 down 40 up speed. It converted over to NBN cable. price stayed the same. Now I have moved here and there. On FTTP. paying 100 bucks on Telstra for 50 down 18 up. Talk about back to the future!
Same experience, we had tpg cable internet in Kelvin Grove, straight off the powerline, then we're being told that we were to be 'upgraded' to NBN, which came with a marked decrease in speeds, consistency, but an overall increase in mysterious dropouts whenever it rained too much and the old in ground pits were flooded.
4:01 The issue is that we're willing to go for a higher speed plan, if only the price of those plans were actually cheap.
I've had Starlink for just over a year now and have been very satisfied. Once my current NBN provider finishes their email separation i'll be cutting the cord on NBN. FTTN in my area seems to be a problem and 3rd party dishes and antennas are popping up everywhere. FTTP has been promised for 4 years but none of the providers know about it. I'd love to upgrade but we don't seem to be a part of any plans.
Starlink is fantastic!
6 months of the year im outside of Australia. I pay the same amount for my 50Mb connection in australia as i do for 250Mb connection in the US. They need to increase speeds but not increase prices.
I wonder if it wouldn't have been cheaper for us with the original NBN plan under Labor, versus the current frankenstein of different delivery methods that the Libs rolled out.
I don't mind having faster speeds, but when are we getting symmetric speeds? It sux that we have snail speed for uploads.
As someone who moves around regional areas a fair amount, optus mobile is not a viable option for me.
CVC doesn't exist on plans higher than 100Mbps, conversely, 50Mbps plans retain CVC. RSP's lack incentive to offer 50 Mbps plans as they need to buy CVC to service all POI's with a decreasing amount of users (making it harder to balance capacity vs costs). So an RSP has a choice of either pushing customers to higher speed plans, or purchasing CVC and potentially subpar network experiences.
Whats also missing in context is there is now very little difference in port costs of 50/20 and 100/20, so whilst prices are going up with the recent agreement between NBN and RSP's, they aren't going up as much as you think.
TPG sent me an email asking if I wanted 100mbps for 12 months, which I said yes, then it will revert back to 50mbps at the end of the 12 montfh. So they are not getting rid of it so far...
My isp is Optus based and fibre has been installed in my street by Telstra. Been there for 7 months still no access.
Great video, brief comment. Churn RSPs. In the end, the only differentiation is how they package the same product and their customer service, and if I was Optus, that would make me nervous.
The problem that churning brings though is you expose yourself to more companies that may not protect your info from hacking. Churning between 2 providers would be ideal.
I have helped a number of my lower speed/lower data need clients onto non-NBN mobile data plans over the last year.
These are people who only use 10 to 20 GB a month for emails, facebook etc and the occasional video chat.
With prices below $25 a month for 25GB for mobile plans, every price boost from NBN sees more and more of them opting out of NBN completely.
I have no idea how anyone deals with home internet at 25Gbs a month.
why does speed cost more???--- its electrical
lol. You're not serious I hope
Wouldn’t the ACCC be interested in reviewing a merger like that? Substantial reduction in competition for sure.
I’d love to see > 50mbs uplink on consumer plans! Wholesale cloud data options are drastically too expensive.. consumer 1000/1000 will open up the market.
1:40 If true, it wouldn't be the first time Brookfield was in the Telecom space. IIRC, they were part of the consortium that acquired the formerly Vodafone NZ. However, I believe that Brookfield divested from One NZ last year.
50/20 is such a scam, legally it shouldnt be allowed.
Interesting video Pat. I am an NBN Optus customer and have suffered outages over the years, sometimes, like the last time 10 days at a time. It seems the best way to go is with 4g or 5g internet. Optus has to pay part of the money it collects to NBN for those on NBN plans, but Optus keeps all the profits on their 4g and 5g plans. The only reason I stay with the NBN plan at the moment is being older and old fashioned I like the landline phone, which is cheaper than having to get a mobile phone.
My parents are paying $10 per month for unlimited mobile calls and texts along with 10 gigabytes of 4g with Circles Life.
Their prices went up for new customers a few months ago though to $15 per month I think.
I'm with them too but mine is also used for the rare times internet (or power) is disrupted so we can still have some entertainment (while batteries last) during that time, so my plan is $38 per month for unlimited phone and sms plus 100 gigabytes of 4g internet.
It's $10 a month for VOIP, or for $10 a month you can get an Amaysim SIM (the plan is still available if you pay them quarterly).
I'll get excited when they offer me 50mbit symmetrical with something like 1:10 contention. For the same 80 bucks I'm paying now.
Its such a giggle to know how sucked in the average person is....
I use the Telecom ombudsman when I get telstra or other company issues. If you do they get points against them so they escalate and tend to escalate it (still frustrating) and they contact you.
"Turns tables" ?
The office reference
He must have been distracted by his vinyl LP record collection
8.40. No big deal,just a manglish turntables instead of tables turned e.g. @TechManPat
if no 50mbps plan, bye bye.... it is purely rip-off to go higher when one's requirement can not justify it... time for ACCC intervention
Speed tiers IMO are the stupidest things about Aussie internet, ISP's should just connect you and you get what you area is capable of, don't get me started in costs, we all know that what we pay is about 1/3 of what it costs them to provide, I'm glad data caps are being phased out as they are another BS things that doesn't need to exist, data costs them, ISP's so little yet they used to act like they were doing us a favour giving it to us. The NBN network is capable now with fibre being rolled out to most properties of giving us all gigabit without any significant issues on performance, but again they act like their doing us a favour letting us have 100Mb. Most hoses would barely use more than 40-50Mb for daily tasks, and would be fine, then let others reach the actual capacity of the network when we need to. The whole internet system here is trash, we're only now getting caught up to what the rest of the world had 5 years ago, we should be a world leader in this aspect not some bottom rung country.
Aussie broadband is fantastic - if I leave I will go to starlink, but so far Aussie has been perfect.
I don't have terrestrial NBN available where I am, in regional SA, only "NBN" option is expensive satellite. So I use 4G, which on a good day peaks at around 28Mbps, which is more than fast enough for anything I choose to do, congested or bad day, around 11Mbps, and I still get by without issue. Why would someone like me want to upgrade to a more expensive 100+ plan if I did get proper NBN?
Also on satellite NBN, but even more isolated in country Vic, with no mobile reception. For me, it's either this, or the more costly again Starlink from Elon Musk. I can't afford that, so NBN it is. Caught between a rock and a hard place...
I have an NBN node outside my house. Telstra weren't interested in all of the modem dropouts, it was the fault of my equipment "apparently". I went to 4G years ago for much less and haven't looked back.
Wow! 25 Mbps. Here in south east Queensland, just over two hours from Brisbane we’re getting a whopping 10Mbps on a good day via 4G and that’s with a MIMO antenna. Excellent for emailing and the random search but useless for UA-cam, online gaming or video conferencing. Forget about becoming a content creator or influencer in this digital age, there is zero opportunity to create an income from the digital frontier.
i live on the Northern beachs 40min from sydney and have 0 4g or 5g and cant even use my phone to access internet banking in my street or home unless its connected to the home wireless.
Boost network, which is telstra. its a joke where ever you are it seems.
Not everyone is you
I upgraded to receive faster speeds, but still never gets to the speed limit of the slower plan… its such a scam, making you pay for something they can’t deliver…
Ya when it first came out, and I think it still applies. Not every house was capable of the 50Mb Speed. The copper lines and connection was just too poor. People were paying for it, but on testing line-speed not receiving it.
Adsl was small upload faster download.. the nbn should be the same upload speed as download.. especially cloud storage.. you need to send your data to the cloud quickly.. in a sense only putting the whole system under load for a short time .. vs a very long time .. that might not be finished when your laptop battery dies .. or you shut down the pc.
Upload speeds frustrate the hell out of me. I want more than 50mbps on a residential gigabit plan. 1000/100 minimum, ideally 250 up.
What about HFC connections? 50/20 speed Is fine for our requirements.
3:26 I would consider myself a fairly typical Home Boardband consumer, downloading playlist, streaming 1080p video, scrolling through the social feeds, and my connection is over ADSL, which might get 20 Mbs on its best day. Now, its a single user household, the situation would be different if it was Mum, Dad & Kids streaming 4K. However, I imagine that there are many households similar to mine where a 50Mbs connection is more than sufficient for everything needed on the daily. Why should they be penalized & forced to buy a faster speed tier then required? Just Because the Retail ISP wants to juice their profits.
I had lots of problems with my internet dropping out & then I got lots of offers in my letter box from my ISP & NBN to upgrade to fibre to the home. I'm not the suspicious type but I did the math and at $10 a month more I decided to upgrade BUT I dropped my home phone bundle which was $10 month so it's was a no cost upgrade. I went from 50mbps to 100mbps & have not had 1 interruption since. Did I get scammed, maybe
I recently changed from Optus nbn to superloop. My ping has gone from 22 down to 8. Im verry happy.
I've had TPG and Dodo over the years and my ping has always been around 7ms.
Ping to what?
I still prefer to be on an Optus network over Telstra. But I don't go through them directly, I use other providers that use their network.
I am regularly amazed how out of touch the "money distortion field" makes people. All these stupid moves within nbn because they borked building it right from the start....
The liberals did exactly as they wanted & planned....
Give Telstra billions 😢
You can't get rid of 50 or slower megabit plans as long as there is copper in the system, i.e., fttn.
Thanks for sharing this information with us
I'm on a Westnet (owned by TPG) 50Mbs FTN plan. I am one of those fortunate people that, given a good server on the other end, can actually max the connection out.
As there are only 2 people in my household, this is more than adequate for our needs. I have no desire to "upgrade" as there would be no advantage for us.. Particularly as any slow downloads seem to be due to the server involved, rather than a connection or backbone issue.
Along with TPG's plan to start charging for email services come August, if they attempt to force this upgrade on me, I'll be more than happy to churn to one of the minors.....
I pay as much now for 50/20 NBN through Telstra as I did for 100/5 cable internet through Telstra. I'm not noticing the 20 upload speed make that much of a difference, but I am noticing the 50mb less download. It already feels overpriced, so if I were forced onto a higher price plan I'd frankly be pissed. I'm already struggling with the cost of living in Sydney. Telstra already bumped up the base cost, and practically every other service company has used the "inflation" excuse to start gouging for more than the actual cost increase on their side. So no, I don't want their higher speed plan if they're going to charge even more.
I'd love to get more than 50mbps... except that NBN doesn't provide it at my house because they used ancient copper to build the network...
I’d love to upgrade my 50mbps service to 100mbps, but my FTTN connection is only capable of about 65mbps, so obviously I don’t want to pay extra for speed I can’t get.
Yeah when launtel stop offering the 50 and the 25 It was kind of expected that more will follow I don’t think it’s that much of a surprise with how wholesale pricing is going.
I am on a 50mbps plan and I have never seen a speedtest faster then 10mbps in the years I have had nbn.
This 50mbps plan retirement is a shocker. Most of Australia still cant manage a 50mbps connection speed. If they make the plans pro-rata and you only pay for what u can sync at then that would be ok. But lets face it, that isn't gonna happen.
I'm suspicious of all private equity firms.
Telecommunications infrastructure in Australia is an oligopoly, isn't it? There's not enough true competition.
I contacted Optus and they told me there is no plan to discontinue 50mbps NBN.
I had 1000/1000mbps symmetrical pure fibre in Toronto for $50 a month. Now in an inner Sydney apartment I can’t get faster than 100mbps for $85!?!? Aussie internet is dogshit. I would swap in a heartbeat to anyone who will give me faster internet…
Optus sucks...I recharge my account and they credit an old number and say it can't be changed until I respond to a key sent to the old number (which I dont have).
i recently went to 100mbps and the difference isnt that much. Sure downloads from big companies max the connection (around 11MBps vs 6MB before) but most things arent that different. 50 definitely seems the sweet spot, of course if they sell 100 at the 50 price, im sure it'll be welcomed (not for 6 months either)
For 50 Mbps to be phased out successfully enough, NBN needs to eliminate both FTTN and FTTC, and replace them both with FTTP.
Me still stuck on the 12mbps plan. 50? Luxury!
I'll be shopping around now that TPG are bumping up our price again. My 4G cellular plan literally get's the same speeds as our home NBN and it costs me less than a quarter of the price of what TPG are asking for home NBN. Something needs to change, and it's NBN Co.
I recently switched from TPG to Aussie Broadband.
My Down and up speeds doubled even though I went from a 100Mbs plan to a 50 Mbs one. (Times are tough)
I'm averaging around 25Mbs down and 10Mbs up. Which again is double what I had before. Same hardware etc.
If I'm forced to a more expensive plan I'll skip it and just use 5g instead. We finally have it in our suburb.
Why do the upload speeds continue to be slow? I don't get it.
When I was on 25/1 I found the 1 upload speed was a significant issue. When I upgraded to 50/20 I found I could do what I want even with 5 users online at the same time watching UA-cam my Zoom didn’t miss a beat. Going to 100/20 isn’t going to help me, perhaps I should ask TPG as to which competitor I should switch to if I’m asked for more money
😆 just got 1gb up - 1 gb down basic home internet here in VN - $21 month.
What do you think is the factor that stops the NBN from offering cheap symmetric options? In many countries they even offer 10/10 gigabit option with a reasonable price.
The main driver is enabling RSPs to make a profit under control, secondly the required costs to pay back their loans, thirdly the cost of Fibre upgrades, they have to self fund some of it.
I can't even get 22mbps down on the 50 with the sh!tty Telstra copper from the node to house.
Pay more, don't get more.
Affordability makes forced higher speeds unaffordable with already rising higher cost of living for many, eg rent rises more than pension, making living no longer affordable. Its all about big companies greed.
100mbps plans should start at $30/m. You can’t change my mind, unless you say it should be less.
They could actually charge that because most people don't have the technology to max out the connection in the first place. The government are using it to try and plug their budget problems, instead they should look at cutting off retired mp's & giving them a non-means tested pension at pension age that's 2x the standard pension if they survive 2 terms on the front bench & everybody else that survives a full term a standard non-means tested pension at pension age.
Yeah well a lot of this is supposition. For instance my place is served by the old copper network. Further the copper comes off the electricity pole in my "backyard". Its FTTN of course. The copper pair is aerial for a couple of hundred metres then runs under ground to another street to reach the FTTN node. My service is 50Mb/s and I can get 40mb/s downloads and
How does it help congestion and improve overall performance? It's a finite system. Say one fibre runs at 1GBPS so that means 10 x 100MBPS plans can use that one fibre compared to 20 x 50MBPS plans. This is just another example of companies trying to profiteer and not caring about the customer when the network is over capacity and everyone is being throttled.
We get absolutely shafted in this country for pathetic intenet.
Basic plans are 1000/500 for $70pm in NZ let alone Hyperfiber is now released.
We can only get a max of 40 down here, good having more options
I live in country SA. I'm with Optus .
No 5G, where i live.
I flat refuse to have the NBN.
I have 4G Plus over 100 mps
130 gig per month, shared between my phone & tablet.
Price $110.00 per month.
I'm happy with that.
Optus prices are much better than Telstra.
I've been with Optus for over 10 years.
I get much faster internet in the country than I did living 5 km from Adelaide city centre i got 1 bar, sometimes 2bars on my phone, i moved 5 years agoi get 4 bars most of the time now.
"But upload speeds will still be quite slow" FFS... All I want is a symmetric plan, or 100mbps upload at a reasonable price. Non-nbn providers in Australia already do this for under $100/m.
I have TPG 50/20 and it works fine. Have never had an issue with performance. Have never even had to call TPG for tech support.
I don't want or need 100/50. If I am being forced to have it though, don't charge me more for it when I didn't want it.
I am still on FTTN but I am sick of TPG trying to push wireless 5G. Sure I got higher average speed speeds but the latency was crap.
The 5G modem also seemed to mask drop outs, I could see that I was momentarily losing connectivity but it wasn't represented in the modems up time.
TPG are Vodafone. Of course they're trying to push their own towers instead of reselling NBNCo lines.
I was on a TPG NBN12 plan for $49.99/month. They made me an offer for 4G wireless for the same price. So far so good. I get 20Mbps download which is faster than NBN12. Downside is i lost my landline.
TPG have been calling, texting me and emailing me every day. I wasn’t answering but I guess they’re calling me about what you mentioned. They were absolutely useless when I was getting my internet set up. It took over a month.
can any broadband provider throttle a singular sub? for opinions etc?
if you know tell us the truth...
Fixed nbn wireless is still sooo meh about time it's upgraded