Steam Deck OLED: www.steamdeck.com/ (Correction: Sales begin Nov 16th, not today.) Thanks to Bill of Punished Props for helping film this video! www.punishedprops.com
same, i bought it because they said they dont plan on doing any significant upgrades for years to come, and then they release an oled version a month later! im fucking fuming
Once AGAIN. I feel the need to comment the fact that Norm is the most underrated reviewer on UA-cam. Just like the original Steam Deck video he did, full of facts, no filler and elegantly presented. Give this man his own channel.
@@MorrisseyMuse well proton is being updated every day by plenty of people outside of valve (and some in). Hardware wise the chip has been made smaller which is a spec bump
@@MorrisseyMuse This is an insane comment. Proton is amazing! Only 12% of my 900 game library is unsupported. That is amazing considering they are not running on Windows. In fact there are a load of older games now that do run on Proton that DONT run on Windows anymore. The main roadblock is crappy DRM and anti-cheat. But that is on the companies. Valve has provided the tools and support to get them working.
Norm you did a good job with the questions to get them up to the edge of what could be revealed about the production process. I've just purchased a spiritual 512GB OLED Steam Deck for you.
I really appreciate how knowledgeable you are on the Steam Deck, as well as your honesty on performance compared to other systems, this was great journalism and not a hyped sponsored video. I have had my steam deck for well over year and these are nice upgrades but not nice enough to abandon my deck. Sort of like I didn't switch out my switch for a switch OLED.. For now I will stick to my deck as much as I love the legion go but I really want a generational upgrade from the Z1 extreme.
Though this does seem like a more substantial upgrade to the steamdeck than the switch oled was, which was basically just a nicer screen. The list of improvements that other (and this) reviewer have pointed out, are kind of impressive. I can absolutely see though that if you have the original version, that you kind of just get used to the "flaws" (comparatively) like the slightly higher temperature won't bother you, you got used to the battery/recharge cycle, you're fine with the screen, the fan noise is what it is etc. I don't think I'd jump to an upgrade myself if I already had an original steam deck. But MAN is this a thorough upgrade at this price point even. I think Valve really earned some plus points with a lot of tech reviewers, and of course, potential customers, with this one. And I think for original steam deck owners it's just great news that steam is sticking to their device for another couple years. More steam decks being sold, will also mean that developers still can optimize for that one target spec and the refresh putting it into more players' hands. It's really a win for everybody (old users, new users, developers). Like I don't even own a steamdeck and 90% am not going to buy one (I don't have a good argument to get one, besides "I want it" 😅) but I'm just really happy how this is such a huge win for proper mobile gaming.
@@paulszki as a long time user of the steam deck my problem is that originally we knew we would be running games at 30fps, that's fine on a 7 inch screen, but that's not the case anymore, newer games are barely playable on low settings. Where the Ally and legion are pulling in 40-60fps on the same games. If I didn't have any handhelds I would pick up the legion go today, but I'm waiting for them to go down in price like the Ally already has. The steam deck hasn't aged well and I have a 512gb model, I love it, so does the community, but we are all noticing it's not keeping up.
@@robertwendal5894 I guess it's really a matter of expectation. People are loving their Nintendo Switch despite it being even weaker, simply because most (not all) games that are released on the estore, and especially in the digital format arte specifically targeting the switch hardware or being more or less optimzed for it. Nobody is expecting wonders (ha, mario....) here anymore. Meanwhile you can theoretically try out most games on steam that would never even be attempted to be ported to switch. E.g. you CAN play Cyberpunk on Steamdeck and be slightly disappointed that you have to dial the settings down. Or God of War, or Starfield. But you can't even begin to hope to play that game on a switch, so there isn't much disappointment. So sure, you could get the Rog Ally or whatever other alternatives are out there by now, but aren't those also pricier and are missing some other key features (e.g. touchpads)? But really, I feel like it should be a matter of setting yourself the right expectations for the form factor and the price at the given feature set. I have a pretty potent PC (3090 & 5800x3D) so for me a steam deck wouldn't be my primary gaming device for tripple-A games but realy just games that suit the steam deck. E.g. the steam deck should be a great device for a game like Baldur's Gate.
This is an insta buy for me. It literally addresses every issue I have with my Deck. Far better looking screen, bigger screen, higher refresh rate, bigger battery, cooler temperature, quieter fan, a little better performance, and all the little tweaks they made as well. Like the top model being 1TB now. Absolutely insane upgrade. I only got the mid tier model when I first bought it. I'll be getting the top tier model this time around.
Im upgrading day one as well (if I can get one). I think mid-tier for me, mostly cause I have the 256 and don't run out of room and don't care about the etched glass.
The re-engineering they did on this is incredible imo. GN's teardown was awesome. Can't wait for their breakdown on acoustics, thermals and benchmarks 😀 Thanks for this video, a good run down on everything and awesome interview with the designers 🙂 This new model really is the benchmark for handheld gaming.
Having gone from an original switch to an oled switch, I knew I could not go back to lcd screen for any handheld device. I have been wanting a Steam deck from day one but have been waiting for the oled model. Im so happy I will be able to pick one up now. In Steam we trust.
Great video Norm! As one of the 20th Anniversary sale SD buyers I'm still happy. I got the 64gb for a bargain price and will let this slide until the Steam Deck 2 shows up..... That OLED sure is stunning though!
I really appreciate the designers focusing on efficiency improvements with their current goldilocks chip and then waiting for a better model soc. They are right some chips are marginally better now but at the cost of more power or not enough improvement to change from their current.
Good on Valve for adjusting the prices to match the original lineup after getting rid of the 64gb model. They could have easily just charged the same or more for less but didn't, like i feel most companies would.
I wish they had a 64gb OLED model for 399 instead. I got the og 64gb model was very cheap to put in my own SSD if you don't want to do that the 549 model is the go to.
I appreciate Valve's software approach more than competitors going for raw hardware power -- Valve is focusing on long-term software support, looking for developers to include Steam Deck specific performance modes in their games while also continuing to improve performance on the OS level. I feel like a Steam Deck is going to last a lot longer in someone's hands than a Windows-based handheld PC that will have discontinued software support in 1-2 years. I prefer that they're trying to create a better user experience on this refresh so developers can CONTINUE to get used to developing with the Steam Deck in mind before coming out with a big core hardware upgrade. I'd MUCH rather have this new version's hardware that's cooler and less power hungry for a handheld than be able to hit PS5/XSX-level graphics while the thing sounds like a jet engine and lasts for only 1.5 hours on a charge.
Right, I would definitely do it. Now I'd have to sell at a loss. Noone is going to but a slightly reduced steam deck knowing what they could get spending the 500.
I've had my Steam Deck since July and I can't wait to get this gem of a model. I might give the one I own to a friend as a Christmas present or something.
I'm pleased to see they didn't change the resolution. It is perfectly fine for the size and doesn't waste performance for pixels I just don't need. I hope valves leaves the 'more is more!'-approach to the competition. I would be big if they even stuck with that resolution for the SD 2 - more frames and higher detials is way better than microscopic pixes I can't even see.
just buy a 1-2tb 2230 NVme and replace the storage, like for me I got the 64gb model and upgraded the storage to 2TB so If i get the OLED 512 I can just take the 2TB out my old steam deck into the new one.
Wireless streaming mentioned as a big factor for their future plans in VR. That fits exactly into our current predictions of split rendering console + VR headset for the next VR hardware.
Does the anti-glare etching really cuts the vibrance and deep blacks in a significant way, compared to the glossy OLED screen? I'm seeing conflicted reports on this.
It diffuses the ambient light, so if the ambient ain't 100% dark, then it will diffuse the light into its surface, brightening the blacks. But you can just put a glossy protector screen and that no longer happens (but you lose the anti-etched effect).
Oleds should never have matte screens…even if you slap a screen protector on a matte screen the deck it’s still etched underneath. I saw a comparison somewhere on here but even with a glossy screen protector on it didn’t look as sharp and vibrant as it did glossy screen oled 512gb most of our screens are already glossy, phones, iPads, MacBooks…
I have not bought a steam deck yet, so this'll be perfect for me, as I'm wanting a switch oled to upgrade to from my og switch model which has some things that I don't like. Now that valve has the steam deck oled announced, I've changed my mind and want the steam deck oled. This video helps with the details of this new steamdeck compared to the original and helped me make a decision.
Def go for Steam Deck... my Switch is collecting dust since April 2022 when I got my Deck. Didnt play even new Zelda because I just dont want to play in 30 frames ler second with those tiny drifting controllers.
@johnhorak2000 exactly, those joy cons suck, yet nintendo does jack all about them. At least third party companies help out with their own controllers to remedy that issue.
I've had my Steam Deck for over a year now. It has been my prefered way of gaming for the past year. Seeing this I'm definitely tempted to sell my old model and get the OLED. Not just because the nicer screen, but the better battery life, less heat, and quieter fan would greatly appreciated. I just want to know if i can slot my current 2TB SSD into this and be able to continue on as if on my old system? I have things set up pretty much the way i want them to be on ny current Deck, and the thought of having to redo all that does sound annoying.
I haven't loved a gadget more than I've loved my steam deck maybe since my first Ipod. Such a revelation to be able to play games like these portably. Didn't realize I wanted this this much!
The Steam Deck looks so beautiful. When it first released, I was a bit iffy, but when Adam held it in his hand, I"m just like, omg, it's such a mature gaming device, it's not a "Toy" but fun all the same!
I can't justify upgrading my launch Deck but man these are some really nice updates. Hopefully anybody who was on the fence takes the plunge because the Deck is my favorite handheld of all time.
Hope this OLED variant has something to do with a manufacturer deal made for the next "Valve VR headset" Valve is in development for. Hopefully it's a test for a mass scale OLED panel product diployment.
if it is i might consider it if i ever damage my og screen but for now i am perfectly fine with it. Honestly even if its not valve recommended someone will probably find a way to fit this screen into the og decks housing. if the actual diameters are really different
You don't absolutely need it man, your OG SD is more than good enough. The visuals on the LCD are excellent. Not once have I been playing and thought the screen looked bad, or wasn't bright enough. But if you really want it, go for it!
@@panamike6178 100% agree. I've never upgraded for a 1/2 step update, but I'm pretty passionate about the SD. It's allowed me to game even with a busy family life.
Friends and I all just got Steam Decks recently. This absolutely blows to come out of nowhere. and they refuse to sell these at normal retailers in the US so no chance of trade in programs either, not a fan at all
Yes, it is shady. I don't go on the internet or social media all the time so I wouldn't know unless steam themselves plastered it all over the app. I haven't seen it on the app and I'm blind sided too. I get a lenovo legion go on Monday so this ship has sailed for me. Feels like a quick cash grab to buy some time for their actual SD2.
I need to know if I can hot swap the ssd in my current deck to the oled. I have a 2tb ssd and just putting it in the new oled with no additional setup would be nice.
Yeah I’d probably also wait. I have the original, so as cool as the oled screen is, it isn’t worth the upgrade for me. I also mainly play docked, so it isn’t too crazy for me. I’ll wait for better internal upgrades
ehhh... why wait? I'll get the Limited Edition version, and then get a Steam Deck 2 when its out too. Why wait for something when you can just get them all.
So glad I waited. I know it’s not crazy better but it’s the change I needed. Still wish for game pass and epic on here without side loading windows because I have a big library in both but this might just be it. Currently have the legion go and it’s solid but def janky at the moment as expected.
Me too!! I don’t have a handheld pc yet. I was gonna get the legion go, but I ultimately decided against it. I’m going for this version of the 1tb steam deck.
@@tinabeana7 right on. I think the next rog ally and legion will def be more polished devices esp if they make a windows os for handheld without all the bloatware and stuff. But most of my pc game library is on steam deck so it’s not too bad. I don’t intend to use it for crazy triple a titles but all my RPGs and smaller story drive games, metrovoidvania, rogue lites, side scrollers and such will run amazing.
Danm the fomo is strong. Bought mine earlier this year and love it! Dont know if i can justify selling it at a loss and paying more for the upgrade. Im so confliected.
Wait for the inevitable successor. I agree with the fomo part. There are already more powerful handhelds out there with competitive pricing, Valve will follow suit.
1080p is overkill. 900p should result in better scaling. They don't just go bigger number better, so there has to be reason for 120hz screen in a handheld. 90Hz upgrade is more to allow 31-39 fps lock range since cpu can't keep up anyway. Unless performance scaling will improve to not get into the wall of diminishing returns
Would really love to see a comparison of the the glare and anti-glare OLED screens look outside. Would probably be hard to decide between the full OLED experience on the normal glare screen vs the diminished blacks and whites on the anti-glare screen.
Steam Deck OLED: www.steamdeck.com/ (Correction: Sales begin Nov 16th, not today.)
Thanks to Bill of Punished Props for helping film this video! www.punishedprops.com
Those crazy Valve engineers actually did it!
Cool! I wish for a new chipset too. 😮💨
can u do a giveaway
and its not in the uk ffs
timestamp?
Of course this gets announced only a month after I cave in and get myself a steam deck..
Same 🤦
same, i bought it because they said they dont plan on doing any significant upgrades for years to come, and then they release an oled version a month later! im fucking fuming
same ...
SAME =(
I bought mine a full week before they announced it lmao
I know this channel's main attraction is Adam's videos, but I really appreciate Norm's thorough, detailed reviews. Thanks!
Same. He covers every single detail.
Nah these videos are the main attraction
80% norm, 20% Adam.
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I’m here for the norm!
Once AGAIN. I feel the need to comment the fact that Norm is the most underrated reviewer on UA-cam. Just like the original Steam Deck video he did, full of facts, no filler and elegantly presented. Give this man his own channel.
I agree he needs his own channel. That way when I click Adam I know I'm getting Adam 😅
Always a great time hearing about the product by the people who actually worked on it. Genuine thrill to be able to talk about their project.
Tested always doing the best interviews with Valve. Thanks for sliding in the VR question Norm!
Another great review , Norm. I also really liked the introduction/opening. Was a great mini montage and well shot
Exciting to see a screen and battery update. Maybe in a couple more years there will be full new CPU/GPU/Materials hardware.
I think their next hardware is vr or steam machine 3.0
it has new apu and new ram
@@DonnDonn799 The APU is just a die shrink. Isn't something "too new".
They said 2-3 years for Steam Deck 2.
That's what we really need! that and a gaming library that works without needing to fiddle with them lol
This steam deck is a building block for the next VR headset I am patiently waiting for from Valve.
Norm does such a great job with these videos. Love to see it.
The intv with the valve guys was super refreshing and a great listen. They seem genuinely into making a good handheld
Your tech breakdowns are always great. Keep up the good work.
They really updated everything about it. I was NOT expecting that crazy 2 in one carrying case upgrade 🤯
Except the hardware specs and Proton's awful compatibility..
@@MorrisseyMuse well proton is being updated every day by plenty of people outside of valve (and some in). Hardware wise the chip has been made smaller which is a spec bump
@@MorrisseyMuse Proton doesn't have awful compatibility at all. I have yet to run into it being a problem.
@@MorrisseyMuse This is an insane comment. Proton is amazing! Only 12% of my 900 game library is unsupported. That is amazing considering they are not running on Windows. In fact there are a load of older games now that do run on Proton that DONT run on Windows anymore. The main roadblock is crappy DRM and anti-cheat. But that is on the companies. Valve has provided the tools and support to get them working.
Norm you did a good job with the questions to get them up to the edge of what could be revealed about the production process. I've just purchased a spiritual 512GB OLED Steam Deck for you.
Fantastic video. I wasn't expecting the interview! So informative and helpful
Glad that you asked about supply chain and was so happy to hear that they are in a much better position to meet demand for the new models.
I really appreciate how knowledgeable you are on the Steam Deck, as well as your honesty on performance compared to other systems, this was great journalism and not a hyped sponsored video. I have had my steam deck for well over year and these are nice upgrades but not nice enough to abandon my deck. Sort of like I didn't switch out my switch for a switch OLED.. For now I will stick to my deck as much as I love the legion go but I really want a generational upgrade from the Z1 extreme.
Though this does seem like a more substantial upgrade to the steamdeck than the switch oled was, which was basically just a nicer screen. The list of improvements that other (and this) reviewer have pointed out, are kind of impressive.
I can absolutely see though that if you have the original version, that you kind of just get used to the "flaws" (comparatively) like the slightly higher temperature won't bother you, you got used to the battery/recharge cycle, you're fine with the screen, the fan noise is what it is etc. I don't think I'd jump to an upgrade myself if I already had an original steam deck.
But MAN is this a thorough upgrade at this price point even. I think Valve really earned some plus points with a lot of tech reviewers, and of course, potential customers, with this one.
And I think for original steam deck owners it's just great news that steam is sticking to their device for another couple years. More steam decks being sold, will also mean that developers still can optimize for that one target spec and the refresh putting it into more players' hands.
It's really a win for everybody (old users, new users, developers). Like I don't even own a steamdeck and 90% am not going to buy one (I don't have a good argument to get one, besides "I want it" 😅) but I'm just really happy how this is such a huge win for proper mobile gaming.
@@paulszki as a long time user of the steam deck my problem is that originally we knew we would be running games at 30fps, that's fine on a 7 inch screen, but that's not the case anymore, newer games are barely playable on low settings. Where the Ally and legion are pulling in 40-60fps on the same games.
If I didn't have any handhelds I would pick up the legion go today, but I'm waiting for them to go down in price like the Ally already has. The steam deck hasn't aged well and I have a 512gb model, I love it, so does the community, but we are all noticing it's not keeping up.
@@robertwendal5894 I guess it's really a matter of expectation. People are loving their Nintendo Switch despite it being even weaker, simply because most (not all) games that are released on the estore, and especially in the digital format arte specifically targeting the switch hardware or being more or less optimzed for it. Nobody is expecting wonders (ha, mario....) here anymore.
Meanwhile you can theoretically try out most games on steam that would never even be attempted to be ported to switch. E.g. you CAN play Cyberpunk on Steamdeck and be slightly disappointed that you have to dial the settings down. Or God of War, or Starfield. But you can't even begin to hope to play that game on a switch, so there isn't much disappointment. So sure, you could get the Rog Ally or whatever other alternatives are out there by now, but aren't those also pricier and are missing some other key features (e.g. touchpads)?
But really, I feel like it should be a matter of setting yourself the right expectations for the form factor and the price at the given feature set.
I have a pretty potent PC (3090 & 5800x3D) so for me a steam deck wouldn't be my primary gaming device for tripple-A games but realy just games that suit the steam deck. E.g. the steam deck should be a great device for a game like Baldur's Gate.
This is an insta buy for me. It literally addresses every issue I have with my Deck. Far better looking screen, bigger screen, higher refresh rate, bigger battery, cooler temperature, quieter fan, a little better performance, and all the little tweaks they made as well. Like the top model being 1TB now. Absolutely insane upgrade. I only got the mid tier model when I first bought it. I'll be getting the top tier model this time around.
Im upgrading day one as well (if I can get one). I think mid-tier for me, mostly cause I have the 256 and don't run out of room and don't care about the etched glass.
@@austinnafziger4159 Oh, I do want the screen, lol.
@@omnicognatesnr5947 My brother has it, and I do like the looks of it compared to my normal one.
@omnicognatesnr5947 apparently a screen protector for the most part nullifies the etched screen. Dave2d has a video demonstrating this
you can put a screen protector on the 1TB model and it fixes it
@@omnicognatesnr5947
The re-engineering they did on this is incredible imo. GN's teardown was awesome. Can't wait for their breakdown on acoustics, thermals and benchmarks 😀
Thanks for this video, a good run down on everything and awesome interview with the designers 🙂
This new model really is the benchmark for handheld gaming.
Thank you posting this video, i feel a little better to know this gives the same performance, and a 2.0 is still coming.
Having gone from an original switch to an oled switch, I knew I could not go back to lcd screen for any handheld device.
I have been wanting a Steam deck from day one but have been waiting for the oled model. Im so happy I will be able to pick one up now.
In Steam we trust.
Great video Norm! As one of the 20th Anniversary sale SD buyers I'm still happy. I got the 64gb for a bargain price and will let this slide until the Steam Deck 2 shows up..... That OLED sure is stunning though!
Most indepth review i've seen and you get straight to the real points on the updated model. Thanks!
Really great interview questions Norm. Really useful information!
38:51 RIP my OLED Deckard dreams
Yeah, but we do want pancake-lenses and they are preferably combined, sadly, with lcd because of the light drop off.
Holy cow, the temperature really dropped with this new revision, there is more than 10 degrees of difference
6nm chip, crazy how one bump down in lithography drops temps this much. Undervolting this will be fun
imagine the battery life with low tdp and undemanding games. this is gonna be a crazy upgrade
... Who cares about temperature??
6nm+ wider fan = more cooling capacity@@Qwahchees
a lot of people care lol@@philmcclenaghan7056
Thank you Norm! Amazing informative video as always, loved the interview!
Fantastic review and loves the interview portion. So cool.
I really appreciate the designers focusing on efficiency improvements with their current goldilocks chip and then waiting for a better model soc. They are right some chips are marginally better now but at the cost of more power or not enough improvement to change from their current.
Good on Valve for adjusting the prices to match the original lineup after getting rid of the 64gb model. They could have easily just charged the same or more for less but didn't, like i feel most companies would.
yea, beside that the 512GB version no longer has anti-glare glass
@@namegoeshere197well yeah, cuz the 512 is now the price of the old 256
I wish they had a 64gb OLED model for 399 instead. I got the og 64gb model was very cheap to put in my own SSD if you don't want to do that the 549 model is the go to.
@@namegoeshere197 think of the new 512GB as the new mid-tier. The mid tier didn't have anti-etched glass (old 256GB).
Great information, thanks for going into the fan speed and sound of the fan too.
Great video. I appreciate the Valve employees being so transparent. Refreshing for a change.
I haven’t owned a gaming system since PS2 . I bought a Steam Deck and totally got hooked !!! Love it and have become a total fan of Valve !
Great videos as always, Norm. It would be great to get a UA-cam playlist of your content on the channel similar to Adam's.
Thanks Norm for giving a professional and insightful tech review as always. Also, Bill!
Wow, nice summary video and interview! I found out some new details here.
I appreciate Valve's software approach more than competitors going for raw hardware power -- Valve is focusing on long-term software support, looking for developers to include Steam Deck specific performance modes in their games while also continuing to improve performance on the OS level. I feel like a Steam Deck is going to last a lot longer in someone's hands than a Windows-based handheld PC that will have discontinued software support in 1-2 years. I prefer that they're trying to create a better user experience on this refresh so developers can CONTINUE to get used to developing with the Steam Deck in mind before coming out with a big core hardware upgrade. I'd MUCH rather have this new version's hardware that's cooler and less power hungry for a handheld than be able to hit PS5/XSX-level graphics while the thing sounds like a jet engine and lasts for only 1.5 hours on a charge.
Cant wait for this one!
This was incredibly informative! I cant wait to get my hands on one of these.
Thank you for the video and especially for the VR questions during the interview! // -Marco
What we get in new version: +5-7% fps, -10-12 t° and better screen, I'm think its very nice
+50% battery duration too...
Tf is t degrees
Ayyy yo, wtf is t°
@@NolepGamerID temperature degrees, but it would be better if I wrote like this - °C .-.
You can actually get 9-15% more fps with a little undervolting
it would be cool if they had a trade in upgrade program if you already bought one and its still in good shape
i hope so'
It's doubtful but if only
Right, I would definitely do it. Now I'd have to sell at a loss. Noone is going to but a slightly reduced steam deck knowing what they could get spending the 500.
@@daleadams6097steam deck lcd gonna be selling for switch lite money
@@daleadams6097 so you want steam to resell your unit at a loss instead?
Glad I waited. I never saw this coming!
I've had my Steam Deck since July and I can't wait to get this gem of a model. I might give the one I own to a friend as a Christmas present or something.
I'm pleased to see they didn't change the resolution. It is perfectly fine for the size and doesn't waste performance for pixels I just don't need.
I hope valves leaves the 'more is more!'-approach to the competition.
I would be big if they even stuck with that resolution for the SD 2 - more frames and higher detials is way better than microscopic pixes I can't even see.
It doesn't sound like they're currently doing pixel refresh, which goes a long way toward panel longevity on OLED TVs.
I’m so stoked I almost got one last month. Now I have a date set to pre order the definitive version of the steam deck.
Ordering mine in 2 weeks can’t wait
So this is how I find out my 512 gb Steam Deck has been replaced with a new 1TB top of line edition
Keep up with the times old man :p
just buy a 1-2tb 2230 NVme and replace the storage, like for me I got the 64gb model and upgraded the storage to 2TB so If i get the OLED 512 I can just take the 2TB out my old steam deck into the new one.
it's a "make this thing more attractive to buy" kind of change not a "V2 is here, upgrade now" one
It happens to everyone, it's called time
i was honestly more upset that the 256gb model is at the same price I paid for my 64gb model two years ago...
I think I might get steam deck now this is pretty big upgrade
Looks really nice, love the translucent look.
One of the best videos about the steam oled thank you I’m sold!
Wireless streaming mentioned as a big factor for their future plans in VR.
That fits exactly into our current predictions of split rendering console + VR headset for the next VR hardware.
Does the anti-glare etching really cuts the vibrance and deep blacks in a significant way, compared to the glossy OLED
screen? I'm seeing conflicted reports on this.
It diffuses the ambient light, so if the ambient ain't 100% dark, then it will diffuse the light into its surface, brightening the blacks. But you can just put a glossy protector screen and that no longer happens (but you lose the anti-etched effect).
Oleds should never have matte screens…even if you slap a screen protector on a matte screen the deck it’s still etched underneath. I saw a comparison somewhere on here but even with a glossy screen protector on it didn’t look as sharp and vibrant as it did glossy screen oled 512gb most of our screens are already glossy, phones, iPads, MacBooks…
Finally a review that's not just reading the sponsor notes
I am having the strongest case of the Mandella Effect I have ever felt. I could have sworn Grant Imahara passed away a few years ago.
I have not bought a steam deck yet, so this'll be perfect for me, as I'm wanting a switch oled to upgrade to from my og switch model which has some things that I don't like. Now that valve has the steam deck oled announced, I've changed my mind and want the steam deck oled. This video helps with the details of this new steamdeck compared to the original and helped me make a decision.
Def go for Steam Deck... my Switch is collecting dust since April 2022 when I got my Deck. Didnt play even new Zelda because I just dont want to play in 30 frames ler second with those tiny drifting controllers.
@johnhorak2000 exactly, those joy cons suck, yet nintendo does jack all about them. At least third party companies help out with their own controllers to remedy that issue.
save a little bit more and get a Legion Go
@@wacesferpitI'm debating between the Legion Go, and Steam Deck OLED. But the Go needs many software updates.
I've had my Steam Deck for over a year now. It has been my prefered way of gaming for the past year. Seeing this I'm definitely tempted to sell my old model and get the OLED. Not just because the nicer screen, but the better battery life, less heat, and quieter fan would greatly appreciated. I just want to know if i can slot my current 2TB SSD into this and be able to continue on as if on my old system? I have things set up pretty much the way i want them to be on ny current Deck, and the thought of having to redo all that does sound annoying.
I haven't loved a gadget more than I've loved my steam deck maybe since my first Ipod. Such a revelation to be able to play games like these portably. Didn't realize I wanted this this much!
Can't wait to order one of these on the 16th! Hopefully they aren't hard to get. This is everything I wish came with the OG Steam Deck
The Steam Deck looks so beautiful. When it first released, I was a bit iffy, but when Adam held it in his hand, I"m just like, omg, it's such a mature gaming device, it's not a "Toy" but fun all the same!
i'll wait until the Deck2 to get one, tho the screen is nice.
With all these handhelp consoles coming out I knew to wait
I can't justify upgrading my launch Deck but man these are some really nice updates. Hopefully anybody who was on the fence takes the plunge because the Deck is my favorite handheld of all time.
Hope this OLED variant has something to do with a manufacturer deal made for the next "Valve VR headset" Valve is in development for. Hopefully it's a test for a mass scale OLED panel product diployment.
pancake lens + oled + wireless even if its pcvr only gonna be insane
Praying the upgrade would be sold and compatible with the old decks :)
if it is i might consider it if i ever damage my og screen but for now i am perfectly fine with it. Honestly even if its not valve recommended someone will probably find a way to fit this screen into the og decks housing. if the actual diameters are really different
It won't be, you need to change a lot of components and battery completely to have an oled screen
It's a different device. In the review Norm talks about how the screen is a completely different size, among other things.
@@mnarath8376 dmged mine from the case swap, lost the left side touch screen ability😅
Hoping so too. The shell being the same makes me hopefull but untill someone does a teardown we can't be sure.
This was outstanding, thank you!
A much lightweight steam deck in the future will be awesome. This one it’s not too heavy anyways but it will be better for the hands
Very good purchase if you don't have a deck. But not worth an upgrade if you already have one imo. Sticking with mine
Love that there is a new competitive space for handheld PCs!
Handheld PC without the mouse is... A console. This is just a new color gameboy. Yawn.
@@philmcclenaghan7056it’s got a whole ass desktop and runs Linux. It’s a PC
Such a complete video. Love it!
I’ve been wishing for this since I got my hands on the OLED Switch… but this is so soon!
I wasn’t ready!!!
Yeah it’s a bit soon. Not even 2 years
I got the first round 512 GB model preordered dec 21. It’s been so great! I’m for sure getting the OLED version.
What will you do with the old one? How do you sell it or where do you sell it? You never sold electronic devices
@@CaptnYestrday I'll either sell it to a friend who can't afford one for cheap. Or I'll keep it for my kids when they get old enough to play games.
You don't absolutely need it man, your OG SD is more than good enough. The visuals on the LCD are excellent. Not once have I been playing and thought the screen looked bad, or wasn't bright enough. But if you really want it, go for it!
@@panamike6178 true. I don't need it. I just want it!
@@panamike6178 100% agree. I've never upgraded for a 1/2 step update, but I'm pretty passionate about the SD. It's allowed me to game even with a busy family life.
Was gonna buy a steam deck and saw the OLED model was announced. Now we wait lol
Great interview
I need this!! I'm glad I waited!!
Friends and I all just got Steam Decks recently. This absolutely blows to come out of nowhere.
and they refuse to sell these at normal retailers in the US so no chance of trade in programs either, not a fan at all
same here. This exact same scanario happened to me with the switch.
An upgraded steam deck was estimated before the end of this year.. Reddit and the discord have been talking about it
@@juancedeno494 there are always speculations, "leaks", etc. it has come out of nowhere
Yes, it is shady. I don't go on the internet or social media all the time so I wouldn't know unless steam themselves plastered it all over the app. I haven't seen it on the app and I'm blind sided too. I get a lenovo legion go on Monday so this ship has sailed for me. Feels like a quick cash grab to buy some time for their actual SD2.
@@juancedeno494not everyone participates in niche communities on various platforms
I need to know if I can hot swap the ssd in my current deck to the oled. I have a 2tb ssd and just putting it in the new oled with no additional setup would be nice.
Yes
Great interview!
Great job on this review.
I say just wait for the Steam Deck 2, it will be a major step forward in graphical performance.
No, this version is all I need. The performance is fine but I need a better screen and better battery life.
Yeah I’d probably also wait. I have the original, so as cool as the oled screen is, it isn’t worth the upgrade for me. I also mainly play docked, so it isn’t too crazy for me. I’ll wait for better internal upgrades
@kakakrabbypatty1234 exactly, just wait when it really is a major leap in tech...before you know it 2 years will pass by quick
ehhh... why wait? I'll get the Limited Edition version, and then get a Steam Deck 2 when its out too. Why wait for something when you can just get them all.
@@AyaWetts sometimes people can’t drop hundreds of dollars every couple months, inflation is not doing anyone any favors.
So glad I waited. I know it’s not crazy better but it’s the change I needed. Still wish for game pass and epic on here without side loading windows because I have a big library in both but this might just be it. Currently have the legion go and it’s solid but def janky at the moment as expected.
Me too!! I don’t have a handheld pc yet. I was gonna get the legion go, but I ultimately decided against it. I’m going for this version of the 1tb steam deck.
@@tinabeana7 right on. I think the next rog ally and legion will def be more polished devices esp if they make a windows os for handheld without all the bloatware and stuff. But most of my pc game library is on steam deck so it’s not too bad. I don’t intend to use it for crazy triple a titles but all my RPGs and smaller story drive games, metrovoidvania, rogue lites, side scrollers and such will run amazing.
I ordered the 1TB Limited Edition, and my PlayStation Portal just came in! Feels like the holidays are here!
Never checked your channel out so I was quite surprised to not see the Adam Savage I was expecting to see
Danm the fomo is strong. Bought mine earlier this year and love it! Dont know if i can justify selling it at a loss and paying more for the upgrade. Im so confliected.
Same man same...
Nah, don't sell your Steam Deck.
Just wait or save.
Or hell, just replace the screen if you can.
Wait for the inevitable successor. I agree with the fomo part. There are already more powerful handhelds out there with competitive pricing, Valve will follow suit.
Got a family member you can gift the first one to? That's my game plan.
The price isn't too far from the og steam deck, I may just buy this and sell my 1tb one
wow love the dual case
Great review!
I wonder what graphical overhaul percentage they’re planning for the next-gen Steam Deck, Its sounds like Power is a main focus. I'M SO INTERESTED!
A more powerful 1080p 120hz vrr version of this would be the perfect handheld.
@@eternalbeing3339nah they should stick to 800p, 1080p would just drain battery life and performance. But 120fps would be nice
1080p is overkill. 900p should result in better scaling. They don't just go bigger number better, so there has to be reason for 120hz screen in a handheld. 90Hz upgrade is more to allow 31-39 fps lock range since cpu can't keep up anyway. Unless performance scaling will improve to not get into the wall of diminishing returns
Yoooo! The missing piece!
Lol I love the part where you tried to get info on them going OLED for VR.
Feel so lucky to have been able to snag the LE model this morning. It was a fight with the shopping cart system, but I prevailed =D
Same man! I have been clicking this continue button like crazy for 30 minutes straight 😅
If the Oled version goes on sale I’ll probably get it. If anything I wanna see update news to a steam deck 2 next year.
Looking at current APU releases.. I really don't think it'll be releasing next year.
I dont think we will have a 2.0 until 2025/6
I would say that'll come out a few years after switch 2.
Yea I’m just curious about ports. I don’t want to get the Oled and then another deck releases with added minor upgrades.
People need to quit asking for a 2.0...damn thing is way too new and there's nothing wrong with it.
Good video, we need more content like this. :)
37:50 thank you for VR ask :) can't wait Deckard 😍
Would really love to see a comparison of the the glare and anti-glare OLED screens look outside. Would probably be hard to decide between the full OLED experience on the normal glare screen vs the diminished blacks and whites on the anti-glare screen.
Having a matte screen for less reflections outside is not worth losing image quality especially for an oled bro.
Is there an option to trade in 2022 deck for the 2023 one with discount?
I would love for that option
Good to know about availability. I don't wanna feel pressured by the supply chain.
Wow. thanks for a nice detailed review..i wish i can afford one