same ! im 38 now, its been so long since I've watched this movie, it was a good contrast to saving private ryan when they both released around the same time i do believe.
@@sethwarren8389 I’ve thought about getting some of the quotes tatted on me as well can you share one or two of the quote tattoos with me? And yes definitely more than just a war flick
For me this scene is perfection. The camera, the scenery, the acting, the camera, the soundtrack, the dialogue, the camera. What a marvelous marvelous scene.
@@SenorKraut yes mate, this scene simply destroyed me, its perfect, after the came along of this relationship... the music, the camera... one of my favourites scenes too.
I'm not sure about those lines, but a lot of the dialogue in this scene emerged organically out of Caviezel and Penn's real life, on-set dynamic during the making of the film. Before shooting this scene Malick asked Caviezel what he thought about Penn and he told him that line about him being like a rock. So Malick told Caviezel to tell Penn that on camera the next day. And the line where Penn tells Caviezel 'still believing in the beautiful light are ya'?' was something Penn asked Caviezel as like a sarcastic greeting on set one day. Caviezel talks about it in some Terrence Malick documentary although I forget the name of it.
The three dialogue scenes between Welsh and Witt are the best scenes in the film, except for maybe the attack on the bivouac with Journey to the Line Play.
+Jesse Burleson it's what happens when americans like only war movies that glorify war and themselves as fighters for freedom, in other words your typical propaganda filled movie ( like saving private ryan, even though it was a good movie ). this movie is anti-war, even spiritual if i may say. it's enough for them to shut it out.
+Brett S movie reminds me so much about the trials in my life. The quote abt all men being like coals thrown from the fire... Well, maybe all the quotes... are just really spot on
As I got older I began to appreciate this movie more and more. Its the scenes with these two that are deep. There is such dichotomy between their characters
There are great scenes in this movie, many. However, there are some scenes that should have been trimmed or cleaned up, primarily the romantic flashbacks, which are way over the top. I heard the final cut was like seven hours, which was insane. When you edit a film down from that, you are going to have some problems.
There is, isn’t there? And yet in both are reflections of the other. Welsh may come off as a complete cynic, yet he is also selfless and brave, believing in his fellow man enough to risk his life for them again and again. Witt may come off as a starry-eyed believer, yet he suffers from the same doubts as Welsh. Each man carries the other’s burdens and their hopes within himself. Each is the same man, only hidden behind a different face.
The Thin Red Line is misunderstood by so many. It was a Masterpiece and one of the greatest war movies ever made. It was also one of the finest movies made of any genre
Welsh doesn't hate people. He hates losing people, and now he's built a wall around himself to escape the pain of those losses. That pain, basically, is the spark Pvt. Witt sees in him.
It's hard to live a full life and not get cynical seeing all the BS that goes on in society and the world in general. Witt was a great counterpart to him to help him see that there is good in this world.
In the middle of all his cynicism and anger, I can too see a spark in Sgt Welsh. Especially in the scene he ran to mercy kill one of his men, that was just beautiful. He didn't do it because of he had to, not because he would have wanted honour or medals. He did it because it was the right thing to do. He is just some kind of knight in a sour armor. Life is unfair and sucks hard and he knows it, but that doesn't stop him from trying. He is almost as impressive character as Witt.
They're opposites on the question of nature and people's role within it, but they're both meant to be seen as good and admirable people. Witt sees nature as inherently peaceful and people are the corrupting influence when they stray from nature and focus more on the self. Welsh sees nature as cruel and unfeeling, and that it's only through people's actions that you can carve out some sort of peace (or horror, depending on your goals). In other words, Witt thinks that letting go is the path to peace and Welsh believes rolling up your sleeves to effect the change you want to see is. Both are phenomenal, well acted characters that have aspects that probably resonate with everyone, but neither is (or can be) entirely correct.
This will forever be one of my favourite scenes in cinema. It's truly captivating. The conflicting personalities of Sgt. Welsh and Witt feels like an internal struggle of emotions that I (and others?) deal with constantly.
The Thin Red Line is a masterpiece and this scene really highlights its greatness. The camerawork, the stoic dialogue that says so much about both characters, the music, the spiritual connection Witt and Welsh share. The vulnerability of both actors. Polar opposite people with different worldviews but have a strong understanding of one another. This movie felt like an out of body experience. One of the most underrated films of all time and so much deeper than Saving Private Ryan.
Welsh's admiration fro Witt is so obvious and I think Witt has figured that out. He lets on to Welsh that he always thought he liked him. Witt is kind of a messiah figure and Welsh is one of the flock that has strayed, but Witt wants him back.
Just realized that, at the end, when Welsh asks “Where’s your spark now?” he could be referring to both him and Witt. In prior viewings, I’d always assumed it was just him making a comment to Witt. But in retrospect, well, it would make an awful lot of sense he’d also be saying to himself, as we often say things to ourselves, especially in moments of grief or great despair, that he really had lost his spark. If anything, he might even have been admitting that Witt was his spark. Losing Witt was losing his last shred of humanity. Where almost nothing had mattered before, absolutely nothing mattered now.
"I still see a spark in you."..... "You're a magician to me." This scene is a masterpiece. Wonderful film. Please: cherish and learn from one another. End hate.
Good scene. But the only ones that need to end hate. Are those that hate, for hates sake or wrong reasons. And in today’s society and in the world it seems like too many people have it backwards. And they think those that are hating are hating for the wrong reasons and those that hate for hates sake think they’re hating for the right reasons
+li Cecile Lets say its int he TOP5 right.....I think Winter War, Paths To Glory, Das Boot and Apocalypse Now are some of the best together with this one...I also really much liked the 2 Bridge movies Arnhein & Remagen
yeah man, I think you mean the cities Arnhem & Nijmegen? A bridge to far. Where operation Market Garden is portrayed. I live nearby the rivers. The Rijn, Maas & Waal
This is my favourite scene in the movie. Witt and Welsh know and respect each other by now. You can feel the affection in Welsh's voice as he calls Witt a troublemaker. And Witt tries to get Welsh to not close down emotionally around him. But Welsh knows Witt is the sort of soldier who would die willingly for his friends, so he can't let himself get too close. This is the high point of their relationship, unforgettably directed by Mallick amid the ruined beauty of a derelict house.
Terrance Malick is a filmmaker that portrays onscreen that rarest of themes - the divine. It's rarely communicated in film (and I don't mean Hallmark Christian movies or whatever). It is the biggest theme of all, but how do you capture the formless in form? You have to direct people's attention to the formless by using form. It takes a master filmmaker to communicate. He's trying to portray the pure essence of existence which contains all things and surpasses all things.
How this didn't win Best Picture I have no idea. How Sean Penn didn't win Best Supporting Actor I have no idea? This was Terrence Maleck's best work of art IMO!
Easy, because it was judged by people who avoid the light and so, are not able to comprehend the art. Art judges with mediocral abilities! As in life itself!
If this movie lost to Saving Private Ryan, I am kinda okay, pissed but okay, or Life is Beautiful. But Shakespeare in Love !?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!? "I just rewatched the masterpiece called Shakespeare in Love", said NO ONE EVER in our known universe.
the movie could have easily never been made and no one would miss it, its incoherent, pretentious dialog and boring action all except for the bunker scene...
Saw this film as know-it-all punk 18 yr old in the cinema, 20-odd years ago off the back of a diet of John Woo, Seagal & Dan Damme films thinking it was boring & artsy. Remember my step father was very quite for hours after it & saying to me "that was a thinking man's film and you'll appreciate it eventually". How right he was. This film speaks to something in the soul of men.
I saw it at 18 in the theaters. Didn't quite know what to make of it. Saw plenty of combat in Iraq and only then after I came home did I understand this beautiful film.
One of my favourite scenes and some of the most thought provoking and beautiful lines: Welsh: "You still believing in the beautiful light are you? ... How do you do that? You're a magician to me." Witt: "I still see a spark in you." I believe this was the central theme of the film but also of Terrence Malick's films in general, think Tree of Life in which the way of nature and the way of grace provides the underlying plot. I feel the Thin Red Line is about multiple sides: those who are able to hold onto something good and then those who gave themselves over to the war or to despair. You can pretty much see this in the majority of the characters. There's another scene in which Witt is sleeping in the grass and Pvt Train's voice over says something about those who see a bird dying and sees only unanswered pain. Then there are those who see that bird but see the glory. The camera then settles on Witt and it is clear where he stands.
Welsh: Hey Witt, who you making trouble for today? Witt: What do you mean? Welsh: Well, isn't that what you like to do? Turn left when they say go right. Why are you such a trouble maker Witt? Witt: You care about me? Don't ya Sergeant? I always felt like you did. One day I come up and talk to ya. Then the next day it's like we never even met. Lonely house now, you ever get lonely? Welsh: Only around people. Witt: Only around people. Welsh: You still believin in the beautiful light are ya? How do you do that? You're a magician to me. Witt: I still see a spark in you.
Recently took a psychology class in college and this film, which I thought of as decent but kind of boring a few years ago, is now one of my favorite movies of all time. Watching it for the second and 3rd time it's just so beautiful and moving as well as thought provoking.
Tyler Cole boring?!?!?!? :) :) This movie is 99% psychology and only 1% war and is specially design for humans with less or more empathy.I would say people who feel bored while watching this movie are just ordinary soulless human beings which unfortunately are majority today.
@@jnovakovsr Well to understand this masterpiece is necessary to think. Most people are lazy or just to stupid to think, so they want simple action movies where you dont need a brain to enjoy it. The Fact that this Movie not become a Oscar, but the Movie La La Land, said it all.
Jim Caviezel basically portraits a philanthroph, he loves humans. Sean Penn portraits a Misanthroph, he hates people. They both cant understand eachother but somehow are very drawn to eachother. love this movie
Penns character doesnt hate people . Witt does understand him . This film is actually about "enlightenment" , in the zen buddhist meaning of the word . (or christian meaning) . Specifically Witts "enlightenment"
Welsh doesn't hate people. He closes himself off to survive. Witt refuses to do so, and his compassion results in his death. They're the same people -- one who sacrifices himself for others; one who sacrifices others for himself.
BigMikeMcBastard Welsh doesnt sacrifice others though . Hes a complex character " I dont have that yet ,like you guys . That numbness . Maybe I was just frozen up already "
***** I think he is drunk . In the book , they all trade souvenirs for whiskey withe the Airforce . Remember though , he tries to save Witt (the one person who he sees as having his own mind ) , first by making him a stretcher bearer in the rear , and then trying to convince him to save himself rather than everyone else " I feel sorry for ye kid . This armys gonna kill you " He says that for the same reason Col Tall sends Styros home ("your just too soft hearted " ) . But Welsh couldnt send Witt home . Welsh risks his life to "comfort" the screaming kid in no mans land . He doesnt want to get to know anyone because he,ll just see them get killed . I dont really think hes a misantrope , but more a cynic ( maybe ?) "Still believin in the beautiful light are ye ?" I think Welsh has a lot in common with Witt , its just Welsh has difficult job to do . Hes a hardcase , but not as hard as he appears (i think) . Search " WIT , Emma Thompson", for another flawless film . (on UA-cam) . Not about war , but about the 'philosophy of death' all the same . F*cking master-piece !!
I saw this film when I was 17 and still living in my homeplace (Europe). A year later I spent 12 months in the Philippines and there it doomed how well this film captures the atmosphere of the tropics, the heath, the abundance of life and death and perhaps especially as the region was in the 1940's and before than.
Can you believe that this masterpiece was overlooked for Best Picture by - of all things - Shakespeare in Love? There really should be a retrospective Oscars award for Best Picture - awarded say, a decade after films are made, to overcome the bribery and the passing fashions that seem to unduly sway the Oscar award.
@@Bierdurstmann3000 I think it has to do with someone not conforming to society. Being yourself and being on the outside of mainstream society. Today its all about the newest phone, how many followers you have and all social media. But if you don't have any of that or interests or don't think a certain way like society wants. You feel alone.
@@Bierdurstmann3000 think of it this way, society keeps pushing the extrovert mindset on you. Socialize, go out, havr social media and tons of followers. Constantly shoving that narrative in peoples faces oh talk more socialize more. But what if you're an introvert and you enjoy a quiet night at home alone? The more you're around that extrovert society and the constwnt rush you feel alone and uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with be an introvert but society wants to tell you otherwise
"How do you do that?" There is the tone : I'm intriguied and I think you're delusionnal There this is the real idea : I'm desperate to feel humane again, but I know I can't because of this horrible war, I want to know how you, you Witt, retain humanity in this giant madness because no matter how tough I want to be and appear, it's burning me from the inside This movie man
This scene foreshadows Witt's death. The birdcage is open, letting him know it is time to move on from the cage (war) he finds himself in. Earlier in the film we see the caged birds while his grandma dies. At that time, he was frightened of death and confused over what would be his reaction to it.
Actually in is First Version the main character of the movie was ADRIEN BRODY (Pt Fife)...but after a few private screenings T.Mallick change the whole movie (cut most of Adrien Brody and George Clooney scenes) and constructed the movie around Jim Caviezel character!
This is my favorite movie. I think it has the best script ever written. Every line is so thought provoking. So poetic. This is my favorite scene and Terrance Malick is my favorite director.
The Thin Red Line is a study of theology using the events of the Pacific Theater as a vehicle. The minimum requirement for graduation from any divinity school should be an essay on some part of this film. The dialog here is Jobean. The roles in this dialog are masked by the fact that Pvt. Witt is humankind and Sgt. Welsh is God. One would expect on the surface for these roles to be switched. If you listen to the dialog from this perspective, this dialog bristles with the same energy as the book of Job.
Neo Anderson Love this film, Not a fan of the bible. I thought the book of Job was especially twisted. This is far far superior in my opinion. Plenty of room for interpretation I suppose, Terrance Malick is a great director.
+Karl Lodge Humanity is twisted. Ergo, the Bible also has twisted tales. Humanity isn't twisted because of God. Humanity is twisted because we choose to be. We can still choose otherwise, but our willingness to revel in darkness prohibits us. What is darkness you ask? I will quote the Bard of Avon: "There is no darkness but ignorance". The Book of Job is a story about enduring in hope, and not surrendering to despair, or cursing things which you don't even know you're cursing.
You may be onto something. Jesus felt pity for mankind , as does Whitt. Jesus saw a better world for men , as does whitt. Penn seems to be either "reality" or "god" in the sense that both seem to be unknowable or unapproachable. We cannot crack the secret of god or Reality.
Just amazing! The damn pause on the empty bird cage. To me that's Witt being free in his heart, uncaged. My God this is pure art. The roof full of holes is Sarge fighting his inner struggles, wanting to see things differently, but torn in reality. A masterpiece and some of the best moments of the film; the conversations between Witt and Sarge.
_"Why do you stay in prison when the door is wide open?"_ Witt's mind is free in his caged body and Welsh regards him as "a magician" for that. But Witt recognises and acknowledges that "spark" in Welsh too. That they're both in an open hut like the bird cage, in the midst of so much natural beauty, while conscripted to fight a brutal war, makes this scene so striking. It's such a beautiful film.
@@n.vanh.7666 I never knew that was Witt's sister. I thought she was an "angel" to take Witt's mother's soul to the afterlife and to comfort Witt. Is that actress in that scene listed in the film credits?
"I still see a spark in you." I bought and overplayed the phenomenal soundtrack by Hanz Zimmer when I first saw this masterpiece. I love that certain masterful moments are not on that soundtrack... This is my favourite moment of the film. I watch it to listen.
There was a time long ago when I had been diagnosed with the rapid changing manic depression. It was a scary time of warring personalities for me. One loving, humble and caring. The other cold, cynical and brutish. I remember seeing this movie back then and realizing that in those two figures of Witt and Welsh the internal struggle within every human being is being portraited. Watching this masterpiece was something of a magical experience for me. A very helpful one. Personally I think we should consider the movie as another tool for helping people with personality disorders.
This is a filler scene. But I bet it took a couple hours to film. Even If it’s a short scene it still has to have meaning. The writer was able to pack a lot into this scene without saying much.
the thing with Terrence Malick is that his stories are very captivating and art in its form but what draws the audience away from the movie is that the long shots of particular scenes which makes it boring and hard to get through.
I just bought this two weeks ago on the Criterion Collection and I definitely agree with you on that it's the best Blu-ray I own the way they remastered it's even clearer than the Pacific on Blu-ray
Interestingly, this is probably one of Sean Penn's most overlooked performances. Perhaps because the film is loaded with an all-star cast and there really isn't a central character, although I would argue that Witt could be classified as such. But Penn, with what little he was given to do in this film, made the absolute most of it. This scene illustrates the depth of Penn's talent, Welsh's stunned reactions to Witt's existential nature and the way he's sizing him up.
+Jessica S Yeah, I much preferred Penn's work in the 80s and the 90s. I really thought Penn got robbed of Oscars in the 90s: Carlito's Way 1993 (should have been nominated Supporting Actor), Dead Man Walking 1995 (should have WON Best Actor), this film 1998 (kind of difficult to say Lead or Supporting since this is the definition of an ensemble cast, really Caviezel was the Lead if anyone was one, but I could see Penn getting called a Lead since he headlined the all-star cast).
I think Witt's character would become trite - and the film meaningless - if Penn's amazing performance wasn't there to juxtapose it. I think they were both fantastic in this film. I haven't seen too many Penn films, but I'm usually biased against him for some reason...
1:56 This was the deepest moment in this film. There was something in him he had been hiding and ignoring all his life. But, it was no longer a secret. Witt could see it.
Who cares about the Oscars? It's a dog and pony show, and it doesn't mean anything. True quality endures beyond awards.
Agreed
As I get older this has become one of the only war movies I still love
Yeah because the rest (most of them) are just plain patriotic chauvinist bullshit.
@@arielgoldfarb4118 exactly this one is much more real
same ! im 38 now, its been so long since I've watched this movie, it was a good contrast to saving private ryan when they both released around the same time i do believe.
I think it's more then just a war flick. But I agree with you... hell I even have a couple quotes form this movie tatted on me
@@sethwarren8389 I’ve thought about getting some of the quotes tatted on me as well can you share one or two of the quote tattoos with me? And yes definitely more than just a war flick
This is still one of the most beautiful scenes and movies that I've seen.
crimsonsamuraiftw agree and then some
For me this scene is perfection. The camera, the scenery, the acting, the camera, the soundtrack, the dialogue, the camera. What a marvelous marvelous scene.
@@SenorKraut yes mate, this scene simply destroyed me, its perfect, after the came along of this relationship... the music, the camera... one of my favourites scenes too.
I completely agree.
I love this scene .im like the sergeant but want to be like the private. Very symbolic of life.
Pvt. Witt is such a beautiful character.
The most beautiful character ever in cinema I think.
He's Jesus, so yeah. (I mean that not just because the actor played Jesus.)
He is (both inside and out)
They both are. Welsh and Witt together. Like both sides of the same coin. That's the strength of this movie.
Mel Gibson said in an interview that he loved TRL and Caviziel's work convinced him to cast him as Jesus for The Passion of Christ
Do you ever feel lonely?
Only around people.
My god this is just perfection.
+mgs108tlou That line always gets to me. In 8 words, Malick wrote one of the great dialogue exchanges in movie history. It stings but in a good way.
u ever get lonely?
only around people.
I'm not sure about those lines, but a lot of the dialogue in this scene emerged organically out of Caviezel and Penn's real life, on-set dynamic during the making of the film.
Before shooting this scene Malick asked Caviezel what he thought about Penn and he told him that line about him being like a rock. So Malick told Caviezel to tell Penn that on camera the next day. And the line where Penn tells Caviezel 'still believing in the beautiful light are ya'?' was something Penn asked Caviezel as like a sarcastic greeting on set one day.
Caviezel talks about it in some Terrence Malick documentary although I forget the name of it.
The three dialogue scenes between Welsh and Witt are the best scenes in the film, except for maybe the attack on the bivouac with Journey to the Line Play.
Amen!
This film didn't even win an Oscar. That's some tragedy right there.
+Jesse Burleson it's what happens when americans like only war movies that glorify war and themselves as fighters for freedom, in other words your typical propaganda filled movie ( like saving private ryan, even though it was a good movie ). this movie is anti-war, even spiritual if i may say. it's enough for them to shut it out.
+iAmDaos You think they could just honor it as a damn movie. It's a masterpiece. Saving Private Ryan is just so inferior to TTRL.
Yer the oscars love a good load of sentimental bullshit like private Ryan instead!
When I tell people my favorite war movie is Saving Private Ryan, it is because The Thin Red Line surpasses the genre completely. Great film.
+Brett S movie reminds me so much about the trials in my life. The quote abt all men being like coals thrown from the fire... Well, maybe all the quotes... are just really spot on
As I got older I began to appreciate this movie more and more. Its the scenes with these two that are deep. There is such dichotomy between their characters
this movie got so damn much intensive scenes... just incredible
There are great scenes in this movie, many. However, there are some scenes that should have been trimmed or cleaned up, primarily the romantic flashbacks, which are way over the top. I heard the final cut was like seven hours, which was insane. When you edit a film down from that, you are going to have some problems.
There is, isn’t there? And yet in both are reflections of the other. Welsh may come off as a complete cynic, yet he is also selfless and brave, believing in his fellow man enough to risk his life for them again and again.
Witt may come off as a starry-eyed believer, yet he suffers from the same doubts as Welsh. Each man carries the other’s burdens and their hopes within himself. Each is the same man, only hidden behind a different face.
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This is one of those movies where the more times you watch it the more beauty you see in it... Not only the acting, but the plot and cinematography.
The Thin Red Line is misunderstood by so many. It was a Masterpiece and one of the greatest war movies ever made. It was also one of the finest movies made of any genre
I don’t consider it a war film. War is just the device to tell big concept of the dichotomy of man that the film explores
correction..."is" a masterpiece
Well said .
Terrence Malick, thank you for this wonderful movie. Incredible masterpiece.
Welsh doesn't hate people. He hates losing people, and now he's built a wall around himself to escape the pain of those losses. That pain, basically, is the spark Pvt. Witt sees in him.
It's hard to live a full life and not get cynical seeing all the BS that goes on in society and the world in general. Witt was a great counterpart to him to help him see that there is good in this world.
Penn's face at the end...
Sometimes the highest compliment hurts the most.
In the middle of all his cynicism and anger, I can too see a spark in Sgt Welsh. Especially in the scene he ran to mercy kill one of his men, that was just beautiful. He didn't do it because of he had to, not because he would have wanted honour or medals. He did it because it was the right thing to do.
He is just some kind of knight in a sour armor. Life is unfair and sucks hard and he knows it, but that doesn't stop him from trying.
He is almost as impressive character as Witt.
+Tervamursu
“Knight in sour armour”
What a lovely phrase.
He's more impressive than Witt, because he's one of us.
Yeah the tears at witts grave
They're opposites on the question of nature and people's role within it, but they're both meant to be seen as good and admirable people. Witt sees nature as inherently peaceful and people are the corrupting influence when they stray from nature and focus more on the self. Welsh sees nature as cruel and unfeeling, and that it's only through people's actions that you can carve out some sort of peace (or horror, depending on your goals). In other words, Witt thinks that letting go is the path to peace and Welsh believes rolling up your sleeves to effect the change you want to see is. Both are phenomenal, well acted characters that have aspects that probably resonate with everyone, but neither is (or can be) entirely correct.
This will forever be one of my favourite scenes in cinema. It's truly captivating. The conflicting personalities of Sgt. Welsh and Witt feels like an internal struggle of emotions that I (and others?) deal with constantly.
The Thin Red Line is a masterpiece and this scene really highlights its greatness. The camerawork, the stoic dialogue that says so much about both characters, the music, the spiritual connection Witt and Welsh share. The vulnerability of both actors. Polar opposite people with different worldviews but have a strong understanding of one another. This movie felt like an out of body experience. One of the most underrated films of all time and so much deeper than Saving Private Ryan.
Witt struck Welsh in the soul with that statement " I still see a spark in you."
Welsh's admiration fro Witt is so obvious and I think Witt has figured that out. He lets on to Welsh that he always thought he liked him. Witt is kind of a messiah figure and Welsh is one of the flock that has strayed, but Witt wants him back.
Just realized that, at the end, when Welsh asks “Where’s your spark now?” he could be referring to both him and Witt. In prior viewings, I’d always assumed it was just him making a comment to Witt. But in retrospect, well, it would make an awful lot of sense he’d also be saying to himself, as we often say things to ourselves, especially in moments of grief or great despair, that he really had lost his spark. If anything, he might even have been admitting that Witt was his spark. Losing Witt was losing his last shred of humanity. Where almost nothing had mattered before, absolutely nothing mattered now.
Well said ! I never considered that he was asking himself “ where’s your spark now ? “
This is one of my favourite moments in cinema. I consider this poetry.
"I still see a spark in you."..... "You're a magician to me." This scene is a masterpiece. Wonderful film. Please: cherish and learn from one another. End hate.
Good scene. But the only ones that need to end hate. Are those that hate, for hates sake or wrong reasons.
And in today’s society and in the world it seems like too many people have it backwards. And they think those that are hating are hating for the wrong reasons and those that hate for hates sake think they’re hating for the right reasons
If I never meet you in this life, let me feel the lack. A glance from your eyes and my life will be yours
Best War movie EVER.
+li Cecile Lets say its int he TOP5 right.....I think Winter War, Paths To Glory, Das Boot and Apocalypse Now are some of the best together with this one...I also really much liked the 2 Bridge movies Arnhein & Remagen
yeah man, I think you mean the cities Arnhem & Nijmegen? A bridge to far. Where operation Market Garden is portrayed. I live nearby the rivers. The Rijn, Maas & Waal
"You every get lonely?"
"Only around people"
matthew woodall this a really long and drawn out movie. but ot pull it off good. this artistically is incrediblely made. such an acting gem.
This quote hits home
Me too
This is my favourite scene in the movie. Witt and Welsh know and respect each other by now. You can feel the affection in Welsh's voice as he calls Witt a troublemaker. And Witt tries to get Welsh to not close down emotionally around him. But Welsh knows Witt is the sort of soldier who would die willingly for his friends, so he can't let himself get too close. This is the high point of their relationship, unforgettably directed by Mallick amid the ruined beauty of a derelict house.
This is like 2 people trying to f*ck each other.
I'm just joking yo - great movie
Based Kirkskardian.
Witt understands all of them that's why he cares.
Such a well executed scene with beautiful music in the background.
The camera work in this film is amazing.
Looks like a steadi-cam that Kubrick uses.
This movie was a work of art. Shows why the Oscars are a joke.
Terrance Malick is a filmmaker that portrays onscreen that rarest of themes - the divine. It's rarely communicated in film (and I don't mean Hallmark Christian movies or whatever). It is the biggest theme of all, but how do you capture the formless in form? You have to direct people's attention to the formless by using form. It takes a master filmmaker to communicate. He's trying to portray the pure essence of existence which contains all things and surpasses all things.
......" i still see a spark in you ".....
......" where is your spark now ?".....
epic
I don't think that the spark dies when the shell that is the body dies. The spark moves on.
You ever get lonely? Only around people.....The greatest line in the film.
How this didn't win Best Picture I have no idea. How Sean Penn didn't win Best Supporting Actor I have no idea? This was Terrence Maleck's best work of art IMO!
Easy, because it was judged by people who avoid the light and so, are not able to comprehend the art. Art judges with mediocral abilities! As in life itself!
If this movie lost to Saving Private Ryan, I am kinda okay, pissed but okay, or Life is Beautiful. But Shakespeare in Love !?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!? "I just rewatched the masterpiece called Shakespeare in Love", said NO ONE EVER in our known universe.
the movie could have easily never been made and no one would miss it, its incoherent, pretentious dialog and boring action all except for the bunker scene...
and sean peen is trash... he's trying to be so cool, and guy, he's a dink.
I can only hope I could one day write something as beautiful as this scene.
I just love Witt's character in this film. He seems so sweet and sensitive.
Saw this film as know-it-all punk 18 yr old in the cinema, 20-odd years ago off the back of a diet of John Woo, Seagal & Dan Damme films thinking it was boring & artsy. Remember my step father was very quite for hours after it & saying to me "that was a thinking man's film and you'll appreciate it eventually". How right he was. This film speaks to something in the soul of men.
I saw it at 18 in the theaters. Didn't quite know what to make of it. Saw plenty of combat in Iraq and only then after I came home did I understand this beautiful film.
Experience drowns out the stupidity of our youth.
One of my favourite scenes and some of the most thought provoking and beautiful lines:
Welsh: "You still believing in the beautiful light are you? ... How do you do that? You're a magician to me."
Witt: "I still see a spark in you."
I believe this was the central theme of the film but also of Terrence Malick's films in general, think Tree of Life in which the way of nature and the way of grace provides the underlying plot. I feel the Thin Red Line is about multiple sides: those who are able to hold onto something good and then those who gave themselves over to the war or to despair. You can pretty much see this in the majority of the characters.
There's another scene in which Witt is sleeping in the grass and Pvt Train's voice over says something about those who see a bird dying and sees only unanswered pain. Then there are those who see that bird but see the glory. The camera then settles on Witt and it is clear where he stands.
Took me until my 30s to really comprehend, understand and relate to how one can feel lonely around people.
Witt was too beautiful for this earth
I know it's hard, but if I had to pick one favourite scene in movie history... this would be a contender
Welsh: Hey Witt, who you making trouble for today?
Witt: What do you mean?
Welsh: Well, isn't that what you like to do? Turn left when they say go right. Why are you such a trouble maker Witt?
Witt: You care about me? Don't ya Sergeant? I always felt like you did. One day I come up and talk to ya. Then the next day it's like we never even met. Lonely house now, you ever get lonely?
Welsh: Only around people.
Witt: Only around people.
Welsh: You still believin in the beautiful light are ya? How do you do that? You're a magician to me.
Witt: I still see a spark in you.
Where’s your spark now
Recently took a psychology class in college and this film, which I thought of as decent but kind of boring a few years ago, is now one of my favorite movies of all time. Watching it for the second and 3rd time it's just so beautiful and moving as well as thought provoking.
I've seen this film literally hundreds of times , it's a good movie made GREAT by the sound track
Tyler Cole boring?!?!?!? :) :) This movie is 99% psychology and only 1% war and is specially design for humans with less or more empathy.I would say people who feel bored while watching this movie are just ordinary soulless human beings which unfortunately are majority today.
@@jnovakovsr Well to understand this masterpiece is necessary to think. Most people are lazy or just to stupid to think, so they want simple action movies where you dont need a brain to enjoy it. The Fact that this Movie not become a Oscar, but the Movie La La Land, said it all.
@@jnovakovsr be grateful the door opened for him, concern yourself with your own fragmentation, eh ?
Jim Caviezel basically portraits a philanthroph, he loves humans. Sean Penn portraits a Misanthroph, he hates people. They both cant understand eachother but somehow are very drawn to eachother. love this movie
Penns character doesnt hate people .
Witt does understand him .
This film is actually about "enlightenment" , in the zen buddhist meaning of the word . (or christian meaning) .
Specifically Witts "enlightenment"
Welsh doesn't hate people. He closes himself off to survive. Witt refuses to do so, and his compassion results in his death. They're the same people -- one who sacrifices himself for others; one who sacrifices others for himself.
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Welsh doesnt sacrifice others though .
Hes a complex character
" I dont have that yet ,like you guys . That numbness . Maybe I was just frozen up already "
*****
I think he is drunk .
In the book , they all trade souvenirs for whiskey withe the Airforce .
Remember though , he tries to save Witt (the one person who he sees as having his own mind ) , first by making him a stretcher bearer in the rear , and then trying to convince him to save himself rather than everyone else " I feel sorry for ye kid . This armys gonna kill you "
He says that for the same reason Col Tall sends Styros home ("your just too soft hearted " ) .
But Welsh couldnt send Witt home .
Welsh risks his life to "comfort" the screaming kid in no mans land .
He doesnt want to get to know anyone because he,ll just see them get killed .
I dont really think hes a misantrope , but more a cynic ( maybe ?)
"Still believin in the beautiful light are ye ?"
I think Welsh has a lot in common with Witt , its just Welsh has difficult job to do .
Hes a hardcase , but not as hard as he appears (i think) .
Search " WIT , Emma Thompson", for another flawless film . (on UA-cam) .
Not about war , but about the 'philosophy of death' all the same .
F*cking master-piece !!
sean penn's and jim caviezal's views on life in the movie reflect their actual views in real life.
Private Witt: Lonely house now, you ever get lonely?
First Sgt. Edward Welsh: Only around people.
Yeah, only around people.
"You still believing in the beautiful light are ya?"
- just as Witt passes that bird cage with the door open.
I love that.
Do you remember the birdcage in his mother’s bedroom ? With birds in it ? I just noticed that, 20 something years later.
Do you think Sean Penns character let that bird go free- hence the spark.
@@MrTonyPerkiss I think it has to do with a dove being a symbol of the Holy Spirit
“you ever get lonely?” “Only around people .”
Me too I get that feeling sometimes
I saw this film when I was 17 and still living in my homeplace (Europe). A year later I spent 12 months in the Philippines and there it doomed how well this film captures the atmosphere of the tropics, the heath, the abundance of life and death and perhaps especially as the region was in the 1940's and before than.
my favorite scene. the music, the setting, the dialogue.
God damn this film is beautiful!
Can you believe that this masterpiece was overlooked for Best Picture by - of all things - Shakespeare in Love? There really should be a retrospective Oscars award for Best Picture - awarded say, a decade after films are made, to overcome the bribery and the passing fashions that seem to unduly sway the Oscar award.
"Do you ever get lonely?" "Only around people"... My life in two sentences.
Why do you feel lonely around people?
@@Bierdurstmann3000 I think it has to do with someone not conforming to society. Being yourself and being on the outside of mainstream society.
Today its all about the newest phone, how many followers you have and all social media. But if you don't have any of that or interests or don't think a certain way like society wants. You feel alone.
@@Bierdurstmann3000 think of it this way, society keeps pushing the extrovert mindset on you. Socialize, go out, havr social media and tons of followers. Constantly shoving that narrative in peoples faces oh talk more socialize more. But what if you're an introvert and you enjoy a quiet night at home alone? The more you're around that extrovert society and the constwnt rush you feel alone and uncomfortable. There is nothing wrong with be an introvert but society wants to tell you otherwise
"How do you do that?"
There is the tone : I'm intriguied and I think you're delusionnal
There this is the real idea : I'm desperate to feel humane again, but I know I can't because of this horrible war, I want to know how you, you Witt, retain humanity in this giant madness because no matter how tough I want to be and appear, it's burning me from the inside
This movie man
This scene foreshadows Witt's death. The birdcage is open, letting him know it is time to move on from the cage (war) he finds himself in. Earlier in the film we see the caged birds while his grandma dies. At that time, he was frightened of death and confused over what would be his reaction to it.
One of my favorite military movies. Nick Nolte is the best! This film has so much grandeur. Extremely poetic.
Actually in is First Version the main character of the movie was ADRIEN BRODY (Pt Fife)...but after a few private screenings T.Mallick change the whole movie (cut most of Adrien Brody and George Clooney scenes) and constructed the movie around Jim Caviezel character!
This scene and Nolte's argument with Cpt. Staros are the best scenes in the film.
This is my favorite movie. I think it has the best script ever written. Every line is so thought provoking. So poetic. This is my favorite scene and Terrance Malick is my favorite director.
This scene alone makes the film immortal.
This film is unbelievable.
pure beautifully perfected well acted and directed scene with amazing camera work. not possible to get more perfect than this man
Thanks a lot!!...this movie had a lot of impact on me...what a moving masterpiece...
I still see a spark in you.
The Thin Red Line is a study of theology using the events of the Pacific Theater as a vehicle. The minimum requirement for graduation from any divinity school should be an essay on some part of this film.
The dialog here is Jobean. The roles in this dialog are masked by the fact that Pvt. Witt is humankind and Sgt. Welsh is God. One would expect on the surface for these roles to be switched. If you listen to the dialog from this perspective, this dialog bristles with the same energy as the book of Job.
Neo Anderson Love this film, Not a fan of the bible. I thought the book of Job was especially twisted.
This is far far superior in my opinion.
Plenty of room for interpretation I suppose, Terrance Malick is a great director.
+Karl Lodge
Humanity is twisted. Ergo, the Bible also has twisted tales.
Humanity isn't twisted because of God. Humanity is twisted because we choose to be.
We can still choose otherwise, but our willingness to revel in darkness prohibits us.
What is darkness you ask?
I will quote the Bard of Avon: "There is no darkness but ignorance".
The Book of Job is a story about enduring in hope, and not surrendering to despair, or cursing things which you don't even know you're cursing.
+ebannaw their is something called a conscience, but yes lets just hope those without one choose to be humane.
You may be onto something. Jesus felt pity for mankind , as does Whitt. Jesus saw a better world for men , as does whitt. Penn seems to be either "reality" or "god" in the sense that both seem to be unknowable or unapproachable. We cannot crack the secret of god or Reality.
Just amazing! The damn pause on the empty bird cage. To me that's Witt being free in his heart, uncaged. My God this is pure art. The roof full of holes is Sarge fighting his inner struggles, wanting to see things differently, but torn in reality. A masterpiece and some of the best moments of the film; the conversations between Witt and Sarge.
_"Why do you stay in prison when the door is wide open?"_ Witt's mind is free in his caged body and Welsh regards him as "a magician" for that. But Witt recognises and acknowledges that "spark" in Welsh too. That they're both in an open hut like the bird cage, in the midst of so much natural beauty, while conscripted to fight a brutal war, makes this scene so striking. It's such a beautiful film.
@@n.vanh.7666 I never knew that was Witt's sister. I thought she was an "angel" to take Witt's mother's soul to the afterlife and to comfort Witt. Is that actress in that scene listed in the film credits?
As a veteran what he says about being lonely only around people is quite accurate. Outstanding scene and a really underrated movie.
"Where is your spark now??"...
Never been so sad watching a movie.
"You're a magician to me" makes me tear up every time.
"I still see a spark in you." I would have added that, if it weren't there, you wouldn't be seeking answers.
This scene is like the two sides of my brain talking to each other.
Something this movie seems to get right is how much of the ultimate conflict is spent in the pre and in the post
this feels like a conversation between my younger self and me now
Watched this in the cinema. Beautiful settings. Remember especially an artillery barrage and a native in high grass.
One of my very favourite scenes in any film.
Why do people think people who stay true to themselves are trouble makers?
Because we question the narrative: research "flat earth clues."
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Because he is required to follow orders but he does what he wants
"I still see a spark in you."
I bought and overplayed the phenomenal soundtrack by Hanz Zimmer when I first saw this masterpiece. I love that certain masterful moments are not on that soundtrack... This is my favourite moment of the film. I watch it to listen.
There are so many metaphors in the movie, the open cage is one amongst thousand
Nick nolte is amazing in this film. Deserved serious accolades for his part
There was a time long ago when I had been diagnosed with the rapid changing manic depression. It was a scary time of warring personalities for me. One loving, humble and caring. The other cold, cynical and brutish. I remember seeing this movie back then and realizing that in those two figures of Witt and Welsh the internal struggle within every human being is being portraited. Watching this masterpiece was something of a magical experience for me. A very helpful one. Personally I think we should consider the movie as another tool for helping people with personality disorders.
One of my favorite scenes from Thin Red Line. Thanks for posting!
Reminds me of the inner sleeve of Combat Rock by The Clash.
This maybe my favourite scene in every movie ever, I remember my Teachers talking to me like this.
This is a filler scene. But I bet it took a couple hours to film. Even If it’s a short scene it still has to have meaning. The writer was able to pack a lot into this scene without saying much.
It was more than just filler. It was a clash of ideologies. The two main ones that geld the entire film
1:32 on is just incredible acting.
the thing with Terrence Malick is that his stories are very captivating and art in its form but what draws the audience away from the movie is that the long shots of particular scenes which makes it boring and hard to get through.
"you're a magician to me"
Thanks fpr posting this beautiful scene. Maybe the best in history. Private Witt for president.
I still see a spark in you. I do like this movie for so many reasons.
"Still believin' in the beautiful light, are ya? How do you do that? You are a magician to me..."
One of my 3 favorite parts....Thank you so much Damirrozz.
Bought this on the criterion collection.. Best Blu-ray I've ever owned..
I just bought this two weeks ago on the Criterion Collection and I definitely agree with you on that it's the best Blu-ray I own the way they remastered it's even clearer than the Pacific on Blu-ray
Just a masterpiece in film making the scenery and poetry are just amazing.
The quiet inner monologs and cinematography made this movie.
I loved it when I watched it the first time and it has been my favorite war movies of all times since then.
Interestingly, this is probably one of Sean Penn's most overlooked performances. Perhaps because the film is loaded with an all-star cast and there really isn't a central character, although I would argue that Witt could be classified as such. But Penn, with what little he was given to do in this film, made the absolute most of it. This scene illustrates the depth of Penn's talent, Welsh's stunned reactions to Witt's existential nature and the way he's sizing him up.
+drlee2 Agree 100%. This scene and performances are magnificent.
+Jessica S Yeah, I much preferred Penn's work in the 80s and the 90s. I really thought Penn got robbed of Oscars in the 90s: Carlito's Way 1993 (should have been nominated Supporting Actor), Dead Man Walking 1995 (should have WON Best Actor), this film 1998 (kind of difficult to say Lead or Supporting since this is the definition of an ensemble cast, really Caviezel was the Lead if anyone was one, but I could see Penn getting called a Lead since he headlined the all-star cast).
Sean Penn is always great.
I think Witt's character would become trite - and the film meaningless - if Penn's amazing performance wasn't there to juxtapose it. I think they were both fantastic in this film. I haven't seen too many Penn films, but I'm usually biased against him for some reason...
drlee2 Sure you’re not mixing the two up? Welsh is the existentialist if either is.
Another case of whacked human beings being great actors. Great scene.
I wish Star Wars had the same feeling like this
1:56 This was the deepest moment in this film. There was something in him he had been hiding and ignoring all his life. But, it was no longer a secret. Witt could see it.
malick is a genious
fuck, "only around people" hits me
Those natives singing, are the closest thing to "A Heavenly Choir" I think I will ever hear.
"Still believe in the beautiful light? How can you do that?"
"I still see it in you."
Funny how so little can say so much.
Only Hollywood can produce such a Masterpiece... This and Apocalypse Now are the greatest ever made.
And this is my beloved quote from this movie:
Witt: Do you ever get lonely?
Welsh: Only around people.