Bhansali not only misrepresented the culture and language of Punjabi city Lahore but also stole music and scene sequences from Pakistani punjabi movie. The Hit song "Masoon dil hai mera" is stolen from "Zindigi tamasha bani". This is the original song and its on youtube /watch?v=5HUtqXv9cvg
Bhansali not only misrepresented the culture and language of Punjabi city Lahore but also stole music and scene sequences from Pakistani punjabi movie. The Hit song "Masoon dil hai mera" is stolen from "Zindigi tamasha bani". This is the original song and its on youtube /watch?v=5HUtqXv9cvg
He just used the name and never intended to make a documentry based in facts.Its called fictional creativity.Directors need to make things entertaining and glamorous.🤔🤔
Yes you are right.......I am from kashmir India I don't know much about heeramandi but I also have the same opinion as yours..... I also think that these houses must be restored ❤ it will recreate the glory of history ❤
Ap ne bohat achi language use ki respectable words use kiay hain meri is Bazar k bank main kafi time posting Rahi he yaha k log boht achy hain aurat ki boht respect karty hain Meri tou boht karty thy
I had the chance to visit Heera Mandi in 1993, and at that time, there were still "kothas" and "tawaifs" present. However, things have changed since then, and now everything has spread throughout Lahore. Sanjay Leela Bhansali accurately depicted the true essence of Heera Mandi, a place where people once came to learn "tameez" (etiquette) and "art."
He is absolutely right about everything as a Lahori I can assure that but now lahore has changed alot bcoz ppl from all over Pakistan came to lahore for jobs that's why only real Lahori knows the history of it
Problem of you people is - can’t digest criticism. How many of you have read books about Heeramandi? None, right? But you all have watched the series. If it was not for this video, you would have always thought how grand Heeramandi was! Not everyone, who watches movies, does validate the fact, but always remembers the way it was shown in the movie. I am not against series, I am against not-showing-the-fact. Don’t support blindly because it’s SLB series.
Thank you for showing us the present area of what was Heeramandi. Yes, Shri Sanjay Leela Bhansali has glamorized it, but we need to understand that art is free and imagination has no boundaries. Fiction is bound to be a part of history in the making of drama/ film. Let us not forget that most of us enjoyed what we watched. At least Sanjayji showed us a glimpse of the yester years with a kaleidoscope.
Chalo ek bat to achi hui, sanjay leela heeramandi has brought lahori heeramandi in spot light in modern days. Its first time i came to know about this place.
@saduniya9175 we should stop acting like moral police. That was history, you cant erase it. Todays heeramandi is insta youtube Facebook tik tok. First stop those things, then think about series
I believe SLB didn't mention this anywhere that he is making a 'history documentary' so people should get over the creator freedom and factual inaccuracies please!!
@@Pookie.cookie. I believe glorification is a two way process. They, as creators put something on the pedestal and we, as audience admire, approve and adopt it and that is Glorification but again I agree with your pov.
Thank you for showing the real Heera Mandi. However we all must understand that cinema is a visual medium. Mr. Bhansali is known for making beautiful frames. Every film need not be realistic. It’s his ‘take’. Thanks for the information by the way.
My grand grand nani told me about the story of partition. She was so old and she saw everyone's struggle behind azadi. She told me about heeramandi and tawaif. She told me they are just an artist nothing else, they used to teach tehzib to nawab's sons take unme aur angrezo me frq rahe. Jb angrez ae tw unhn ne inhe whore bana diya..
@@Solosational show is made for indian audience. if they use proper urdu then people dont understand it and that is why as usual mixed language is used.
I love his depiction of the reality, and the respectful way in which he spoke ( unke lafzo mein ek behtereen tehzeeb hai) about the ladies. I want to visit Pakistan and taste those marvellous kebabs. Much love from India.
اللّٰہ تعالیٰ ہی ہدایت دے۔ جس قوم کے "شرفاء اور امراء" اس بازار سے تمیز اور تہذیب سیکھا کرتے تھے اس قوم اور معاشرے کو وہیں ہونا چاہئے جہاں ہمارا معاشرہ اس وقت کھڑا ہے۔
@@muneebsiddique5179Heera mandi was the story of Undivided india When hind wasn't broken into parts. Why would india make movie on Pakistani poltics or so any foreign country poltics. The fact that in heera mandi the inqilab raised was for the Hind which wasn't broken. Today's Hind has been broken into Multiple parts
@@AzadHind572 may be that's right but India already made too much movies on Pakistan politics Pakistan culture and many other topics of Pakistan.. You can check ..
This means that Pakeeza, a 1970s movie (first 30 minutes) when Nawab Shahabuddin (Ashok Kumar) comes looking for his daughter , his love child with a courtesan (Meena Kumari) had although a studio set, a more accurate depiction of the tight streets, small homes with beautifully decorated interiors for Nawabs' entertainment and indulgences , as this resident describes, compared to Sanjay Leela Bansali's over the top portrayal in Heeramandi.
Mujhe ek baar vilkul samaj ni ati. They hated to be associated with the courtesan women, however tehy wanted their children to "learn manners" from them...
before islamic invasions they were not prostitute but they were masters in art forms like music, dancing etc things. and they used to perform at temples and at royal events. it was islamic invaders who forced them to go into prostitution by looting temples destroying their livelihood and lot of other things. so both got mixed at that time. freedom of women under islamic invasion has been highly impacted. whole indian subcontinent was very different before it and women have enjoyed lot of freedom which is visible when one read old hindu scriptures and visit ancient temples. moreover SLB told it is not fully fact based story but things has been taken from facts to make series. it is visually good series but story line is very weak. and BBC here is expert in doing subtle propaganda which they are doing here.
@@Abhi081220060 No, Devadasis had illegitimate children since ancient times. That wouldn't be possible unless they were having affairs with Hindu men. Since these children wouldn't inherit anything from their fathers, the only incentive for a Devadasi to agree to such an affair would be prostitution.
That concept was just based on that heeramandi...the whole story is fictional plus non fictional! They never said its a documentary series ! Anyways must watch that ! Amazing series ❤❤
After the dictator Zia-ul-Haq's regime, all the splendours of this country, the colours, the culture, everything vanished. He radicalised the whole nation, the testimony of which is in this comment section.
@@saifabbas5197 Lahore is too polluted and these hundreds of years old buildings are hazardous to pedestrians Northeast and northwest of Islamabad is where real natural beauty of Pakistan is that is why I say give India Lahore for Srinagar
@@gwadar_cpec2110 tenu amb da nai pata. eh adla badla nai hunda, lahore sif lahore nai hai, history, culture, identity hai. mehrbani kar k tusi apni salah aap de kol rakho.
@@gwadar_cpec2110 why sringar? We have nothing to do with Kussmiris who are now barking at Punjabis. They have their independent government, they can take a political action themselves. May be give Muzaffarabad and get srinagar.
Heeramandi portrayed in the season is before independence....and that was totally different what you supposed in the current senario or after partition.... It is also true that people were sent thier to learn etiquettes, Art and poetry or dance....heera mandi portray in sanje Lila's season was a little lavish but culture portrayed in the season was almost same....people are sent there to learn language as well.... Slowly there was a downfall of that culture as in Islam there is no place for these kind of activities openly......having said that overall season was good and worth seeing if u watch it only for drama and for entaintainment purpose not watch it as documentary or historical event....
جہاں عوت کی عزت نیلام ہو وہاں اللہ پاک کی لانت پڑتی ہے ہیرا منڈی کی درودیواروں سے وحشت سی ہورہی ہے مجھے پتہ نہیں کتنے بےبس اور لاچار حوا کی بیٹیوں کی عزتیں یہاں تار تار ہوئی ہونگی اسی لئے تو نور جہاں کے گھر والے شوبز سے دور ہیں وہ نہیں چاہتے کہ ان کی ماں کا ماضی انھیں یاد کیا جائے وزٹ کروانے کا شکریہ پہلی بار یہ جگہ دیکھی میں نے
You're thinking it is wrong and incorrect one day dimagh ka Sahi istemaal Karke ghor Karna mashra kiun kharab hua hai aapko jawab khud mil jaiyga without arts culture loug ghalat kaam mai lag jatay Hain aur mashara mindset jitna closed hote jata hai utni mulk mai tabahi ati and it has got nothing to do with Islam because Islam doesn't ban arts culture and dance agar aisa hai tou quote me the ayaat because Hazrat Dawood Allah ke paighambar was given gift of singing so singing is not Haram
There’s no point of criticising sanjay leela bansali he potrayed the real culture of real mandi jo yai batai kar raha hai he has portrayed each and every thing in his series hum Pakistaniyon ko sirf criticism ata hai
@@roojfatyma8951who told you we indians are criticising him ??? May be this palace have lost it’s charm now bt it used to be full of life back then n sanjay leela bansali made it clear he loves big sets so he did it that way
@@priyasinghari did you even read my reply? He likes big sets that’s why he made it like that otherwise reality is far from those sets and I’ve seen so many reviews on that. That series is a masterpiece without any doubt but it’s far from reality.
Dorector showed over 100 years ago's scenes, i am sute he presented well as per that era story, not the current or last 50 yrs, world has changed alot since few decades. A good effort of director of heera mundi
@@nycto16 yehi hota hai jub Aadhey sei zyada movie reels sei dekho 😏 heerammandi ke first episode mein hi ye statement diya hai ki the movie is fictional with real similarity . Rahe baat ertugrul ki tou ertugrul dekhne wale audience axhe sei janti hai ki ertugrul kitna real based hai aur Kitna fictional
Heeramandi is very beautifully directed and presented. The place and buildings are also similar as pictured in film. It just the idea SLB sahab took from this place. He is not changing any history he gave the good sights of this place, people and specially the rebellious change to get freedom from west.
Sanjayleela bhannsali acha kia h Iss history ko yadgar to banaya acha pahlo b heeramandi ka dekhaya Yahan k log to aj tK heeramandi Wohi chkla smjh kr historical places ko khatam krty ja rhy hen I think should Panjab proud on this historical place and Kuch kry Iss ko mahfoz krny k lye ta k history zinda rhy
It would have been nice to see and hear from a “Tawaif” who is still keeping this dying form of art alive. This is the actual price that Subcontinent paid due to the colonisation of this land rich with culture, art and history.
Tawaif in actual, was not a jisam farosh. She was considered the epitome of art and beauty. Performing art as well as language n literature was their landmarks. After colonization gora made them do this filthy business to keep the locals busy and let them do their business plus they were used by goras as they didn't have enough choice to meet their physical needs. 2nd thing is heera Mandi got vanished after Zia's reign as he banned prostitution so a business which was limited to heera Mandi spread all over the Lahore as those prostitute's moved around different areas of lahore.
Heera Mandi represents the North Indian Muslim culture of Lucknow and Dehli.. Kudos to Sanjay Leela Bhansali for thinking that Muslims of the Indian subcontinent are a monolith!
اج کی لڑکیوں نے لڑکوں نے جو انسٹاگرام اور ٹیکٹوک پے جو ہیرا منڈی لگائی ہوئی ہے اس کا کیا اسلام نے جس چیز کو حرام کیا تھا وہ حلال ہو گیا اور جس کو حرام قرار دیا تھا وہ حلال ہو گیا ✅
Heeramandi is a work of fiction, it's clearly said when lettering starts. Then why so much fuss in trying to compare with reality, wasting your and my time.
I'm very happy after seeing that Pakistani government and people destroyed this cursed place. Well done guys. We have to respect women's, Not treat them like products. What can used anywhere and anytime by money. Islam teach us it. Alhamdulillah we are Muslim. We should never forget our din.
contd. even your prophet pubh made a rule that 20% of the "maal e ghanimat" which consisted of captured women also called right hand possession,were given to the prophet as tax 😂😂😂
JazakAllah, thanks bhaijaan. So nice to hear someone from the actual area telling about it and it's history for once ❤ Glad to hear him talk about the educational and cultural part of the heera's stay and heritage.
It was a Royal or Elite Area even during Raja Ranjit Singh. Only Nawabs, Landlords could afford to enjoy dances of "Fankaars" aka Artists. Shahi Darbar (Royal Palace) had bestowed them with monthly or annual stipend. This Shahi Muhalla (The Elite Society) ruined during Abdali's attack but reinstated. Minister of Lahore Darbar, Heera Singh founded a trade center here which became Heera Mandi after his name. When British occupied this city, Tawaif or Artists became Prostitutes in real sense. The Shahi Muhalla aka the Royal Residential Area became Red Light Area officially. During Zia Era, prostitutes migrated to different locations/ housing societies within or outside of Lahore.
بالکل صحیح شاہی محلہ کا مطلب ہے شاہی خاندان کا رہائشی علاقہ۔ طواف کا دور نوابی خاندانوں کے دور میں شروع ہوا۔ اب وہ خواتین جو بازار حسن سے تعلق رکھتی تھیں ملک کے مختلف مقامات پر آباد ہو چکی ہیں۔
Filmo me decoration ke sath dikhya jata hai . Wo unka business ka part hai. Heeramandi me jo hota hogha usme kuch masala dalkar picture ye log banate hai.
طوائفوں کے بارے میں شورش کاشمیری صاحب نے کتاب لکھی ہے جس کا نام ہے "اس بازار میں" اگر سب لوگ وہ پڑھ لے تو پتہ چل جاتا ہے کہ عورت طوائف کیوں بنتی ہے۔ کس وجہ سے وہ اپنا جسم بھیجنے پر مجبور ہوجاتی ہے۔
Heeramandi ki Puri cast m se kitne logo n real m aakr is jagah kaa visit kiya tha ..???jo muhh utha kr film bnadii ..,,... atleast they should give disclaimer that its fictional.......from .. Mumbai...
You have to give some credit to the makers of Heeramandi and the beautiful studio sets of a time and people in the past... it has sparked a conversation to know what the real lives and places actually were. It has driven a desire to know and offers respect to the place and the people who once lived there and made contribution to independence by sheltering freedom fighters, and didn't worry about losing their honour in society. 😮 They lived and died in emotional pain without any honour, no rights in society nor respect in their lifetime but the braveheart women gave up their lives in an instant for the country by sheltering freedom fighters. Shahid for freedom they never had! ❤
I dunno why BBC didn't add subtitles to this video. Whole world watches heeramandi through netflix, they might also be interested in knowing the real facts. Not everyone speaks hindi.
Why is it so difficult for muslims to accept the truth ?? Tum log kaun si khayali duniya me rehte ho ? Sach se itna darte kyun ho ? Na tum ye accept karte ho ki tumhare ancestors ko talwar ki nok par musalman banaya gaya th aur na tum muslim k tawaif aur vaishya culture ko accept karte ho ...na tum muslim k bacchebazi k culture lo accept karte ho .. Akhir sach ko accept karne me problem kya hai? Ye hi hai tum logo ki sachai ...tum log koi mahan nahi ho , galat femi se bahar aao
Jisny hinduism banaya shaitan ki ibadat ka mazhab, Satan worship. Unhi ka taluq hai in sab sa muslamano ka nh apna asli muslaman aur Islam dekha hi nh hai ksi bhi muslaman ko dekh k Islam ko judge nh krty. Aik bat batao ap kali mata ko pujtay hu aur ushi ka istemal krty hu kalay jadu ma kyun??@@stardust2270
History ko manipulate karna Indians sa acha ksi ko nh ata, aik bat bataein yah Hindu mazhab ma shadi ka bghair rahna jaiz hai? Radha aur krishna jisay ap log bhagwan manty hain bina shadi k rahty thy. Beggairti tu yahan sa shuru hui hai.
In my opinion all those working ladies have moved on to more profitable business like Politics and are in the government now taking care of Pakistan's issues so eloquently :-)
Sunjay did great job. I think, he tried to introduce the culture of Bazar in old times. In a time, these women were very strong enough. Even in the period of Ayyub khan a very Strict ruler, everyone reamined be careful to Heera Mandi People. Even govt & Military had no control in this area. Everyone knows about General Rani........
Bhansali ko sirf islam or Pakistan ki jagahain or personality pr jhuti movies banani hoti hain jab k is k mulk mai sub se bari misal mangashkar mandir ki hai jo pehle dasiyan hoti thin or phir haalaat kharab hone k saath woh mandir b rothel or naach gane ki jaga bn gaya , lata bai bhi wheen se belong krti hai.
You have used a very respectful language, that's awesome
True
Urdu bro
Bhansali not only misrepresented the culture and language of Punjabi city Lahore but also stole music and scene sequences from Pakistani punjabi movie. The Hit song "Masoon dil hai mera" is stolen from "Zindigi tamasha bani". This is the original song and its on youtube
/watch?v=5HUtqXv9cvg
Love from Mumbai India, thanx for given precious knowledge about Hira Mandi , ek baar Pakistan Anna hai ghumane
Wellcome to pakistan ..hum ap ko khush amded kahy gain
Bhansali not only misrepresented the culture and language of Punjabi city Lahore but also stole music and scene sequences from Pakistani punjabi movie. The Hit song "Masoon dil hai mera" is stolen from "Zindigi tamasha bani". This is the original song and its on youtube
/watch?v=5HUtqXv9cvg
You are always welcome.
Welcome to Pakistan , love from canada
Zaroor tashreef laye.. Hum ap ko welcome karenge😊
He just used the name and never intended to make a documentry based in facts.Its called fictional creativity.Directors need to make things entertaining and glamorous.🤔🤔
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Atleast he could have given credit to the original place at the very least
Psychological attacked towards half boil eggs.
I hope these old houses could be restored to their former glory because they in themselves are a very big piece of history
Yes these are very beautiful houses. A beautiful piece of art
Yes you are right.......I am from kashmir India I don't know much about heeramandi but I also have the same opinion as yours..... I also think that these houses must be restored ❤ it will recreate the glory of history ❤
Ap ne bohat achi language use ki respectable words use kiay hain meri is Bazar k bank main kafi time posting Rahi he yaha k log boht achy hain aurat ki boht respect karty hain Meri tou boht karty thy
Koi shak ni humary lahore k log bohat respect karty hain ..balky hamara poora pakistan he pyar karny waly hain
I had the chance to visit Heera Mandi in 1993, and at that time, there were still "kothas" and "tawaifs" present. However, things have changed since then, and now everything has spread throughout Lahore. Sanjay Leela Bhansali accurately depicted the true essence of Heera Mandi, a place where people once came to learn "tameez" (etiquette) and "art."
Really
Sanjay Leela may belong to this Mandi that's y he dipicted the reality which he seen
@@foziasharifmalik6657 He doesn't woh India ke kothe main paida hua tha yahan nahi😂
Tameez? Art? Auraton ko nachwana Art hai?💀🤌🏼 Aap Apni behen ko Tawaif banne do ge?
Tehzeeeb wo b tawaif SE.. really
He is absolutely right about everything as a Lahori I can assure that but now lahore has changed alot bcoz ppl from all over Pakistan came to lahore for jobs that's why only real Lahori knows the history of it
Matlab phelay sub kuch tha ab phelay say ziada gahnd hy
Abrar Sahib has presented true picture in a decent manner .Every one should be proud of this gentleman of Lahore.
ہیرہ منڈی شاہی محلے سے ٹک ٹاک انسٹا گرام سنیپ چیٹ فیس بک یو ٹیوب پر شفٹ ہو گئی ہے
Kia bat ki h ap ne.... Zabardast... Such kaha
😂
200 percent right
Ye apny bhot achi bat kee
Bilkul Sahi BAAT hai
This is true. Beautifully explained 👍🏻
No one ruins the history, the way SLB does!
You want history read books..movies are for entertainment..you may watch documentaries
If you want to know history read the history books 📚
Understand the difference between Documentary and drama but then again "intellectual" sound kaise karenge?
Problem of you people is - can’t digest criticism. How many of you have read books about Heeramandi? None, right? But you all have watched the series. If it was not for this video, you would have always thought how grand Heeramandi was! Not everyone, who watches movies, does validate the fact, but always remembers the way it was shown in the movie. I am not against series, I am against not-showing-the-fact. Don’t support blindly because it’s SLB series.
@@someshwari_debi Go and watch Alauddin Khilji dance!
❤❤❤❤❤ thank you for such informative video and using respectful language without biases.
Thank you for showing us the present area of what was Heeramandi. Yes, Shri Sanjay Leela Bhansali has glamorized it, but we need to understand that art is free and imagination has no boundaries. Fiction is bound to be a part of history in the making of drama/ film.
Let us not forget that most of us enjoyed what we watched. At least Sanjayji showed us a glimpse of the yester years with a kaleidoscope.
Chalo ek bat to achi hui, sanjay leela heeramandi has brought lahori heeramandi in spot light in modern days. Its first time i came to know about this place.
@saduniya9175 we should stop acting like moral police. That was history, you cant erase it. Todays heeramandi is insta youtube Facebook tik tok. First stop those things, then think about series
Achi baat kia...ye koi Institution yaa Koi Medical Centre nahi tha...Nawabo r tawaifo ki luxury Thi bs r kia
Its real story of pakistan not india they have stolen bro
Absolutely and they should be thankful 😅
I believe SLB didn't mention this anywhere that he is making a 'history documentary' so people should get over the creator freedom and factual inaccuracies please!!
Granted but there is a limit to ridiculous thoughts.
We all agree on this, but he has glorified prostitution
@@Pookie.cookie. I believe glorification is a two way process. They, as creators put something on the pedestal and we, as audience admire, approve and adopt it and that is Glorification but again I agree with your pov.
Thank you for showing the real Heera Mandi. However we all must understand that cinema is a visual medium. Mr. Bhansali is known for making beautiful frames. Every film need not be realistic. It’s his ‘take’. Thanks for the information by the way.
My grand grand nani told me about the story of partition. She was so old and she saw everyone's struggle behind azadi. She told me about heeramandi and tawaif. She told me they are just an artist nothing else, they used to teach tehzib to nawab's sons take unme aur angrezo me frq rahe. Jb angrez ae tw unhn ne inhe whore bana diya..
Bohot acha documentary tha.
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Saaz India nahin jaate the, yeh India hi tha..Yeh India hi mein bante the aur rest of the India mein distribute hote the...:)
Heeramandi shows much accurate representation of lucknow tawaifs, i think.
Yes because language used in Lahore is generally Punjabi but the one in the Netflix series is more inclined towards old urdu
Yes
@@DarkStoriesKarachi More like the UP dialect.
@@Solosational show is made for indian audience. if they use proper urdu then people dont understand it and that is why as usual mixed language is used.
I love his depiction of the reality, and the respectful way in which he spoke ( unke lafzo mein ek behtereen tehzeeb hai) about the ladies. I want to visit Pakistan and taste those marvellous kebabs. Much love from India.
اللّٰہ تعالیٰ ہی ہدایت دے۔
جس قوم کے "شرفاء اور امراء" اس بازار سے تمیز اور تہذیب سیکھا کرتے تھے اس قوم اور معاشرے کو وہیں ہونا چاہئے جہاں ہمارا معاشرہ اس وقت کھڑا ہے۔
Lolzzz true
True
Wo unse seekhtay they ajj kall log tiktok se seekh lete baat tu aik hi hai
Right 👍👍👍👍👍👍
But Acha samjhaya sir ne thanks 4m india 🇮🇳
SLB has shown old era that is not 100% accurate but 90% is. I am happy he made this movie to remind us the struggle of Tawaifs!
👍👍👍👍 God bless all
I am happy that you gave them respect.
Best documentary...❤❤❤
کاش سنجے لیلا بھنسالی ایک چکر لاہور کا لگا لیتے اور حقیقی مناظر لے جاتے
Maine tu set dekh kar hi sooch liya kay nahi dekhna. I have been to heera mandi. Itnay big rooms nahi hotay. Original dekhatay masa ata
Ose SB PTA ha BS ye story B'nai ha paise kmane ke liye ..
Wrna India me is se bre bre bzare husan ha .. Abhi kuch waqt ke bd Pakistani army aur politics par bhi movie AA rhe ho Gi..
@@muneebsiddique5179Heera mandi was the story of Undivided india When hind wasn't broken into parts. Why would india make movie on Pakistani poltics or so any foreign country poltics. The fact that in heera mandi the inqilab raised was for the Hind which wasn't broken. Today's Hind has been broken into Multiple parts
@@AzadHind572 may be that's right but India already made too much movies on Pakistan politics Pakistan culture and many other topics of Pakistan.. You can check ..
Actresses are the new Heera Mandis, Actors are the new Heera Mans ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe
and atill u wantch them.
True Pakistani u r😂😂😂
@@INDIANATHEIST526 actually I DON'T. The contend from India is awful. Nothing original.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Madam noor jahan bhi yahi ki mashoor tabayf thi
This means that Pakeeza, a 1970s movie (first 30 minutes) when Nawab Shahabuddin (Ashok Kumar) comes looking for his daughter , his love child with a courtesan (Meena Kumari) had although a studio set, a more accurate depiction of the tight streets, small homes with beautifully decorated interiors for Nawabs' entertainment and indulgences , as this resident describes, compared to Sanjay Leela Bansali's over the top portrayal in Heeramandi.
Mujhe ek baar vilkul samaj ni ati. They hated to be associated with the courtesan women, however tehy wanted their children to "learn manners" from them...
only Mughals, courtesans not common citizens.
before islamic invasions they were not prostitute but they were masters in art forms like music, dancing etc things. and they used to perform at temples and at royal events. it was islamic invaders who forced them to go into prostitution by looting temples destroying their livelihood and lot of other things. so both got mixed at that time. freedom of women under islamic invasion has been highly impacted. whole indian subcontinent was very different before it and women have enjoyed lot of freedom which is visible when one read old hindu scriptures and visit ancient temples. moreover SLB told it is not fully fact based story but things has been taken from facts to make series. it is visually good series but story line is very weak. and BBC here is expert in doing subtle propaganda which they are doing here.
LISTEN HIS VOICE AT 4:40
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@@Abhi081220060 No, Devadasis had illegitimate children since ancient times. That wouldn't be possible unless they were having affairs with Hindu men. Since these children wouldn't inherit anything from their fathers, the only incentive for a Devadasi to agree to such an affair would be prostitution.
It will not be because the series is not a biopic its a story told from SLBs lence
*lens
That concept was just based on that heeramandi...the whole story is fictional plus non fictional! They never said its a documentary series ! Anyways must watch that ! Amazing series ❤❤
Thanks for the texting
Dear Sir, Thanks for showing real Hiramandi. I request to kindly make another video showing Sir Ganga Ram Haveli and related details.
Good information
It doesn't have to be accurate. It's just a beautiful story
After the dictator Zia-ul-Haq's regime, all the splendours of this country, the colours, the culture, everything vanished. He radicalised the whole nation, the testimony of which is in this comment section.
Totally I agree on that
Outsiders from villages are now commenting on Lahore's indigenous culture!
Indians are more obsessed about Lahore
Give India Lahore maybe they will give Pakistan Srinagar
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At least, they would have preserved Lahore's indigenous culture better than Pakistan!
@@saifabbas5197 Lahore is too polluted and these hundreds of years old buildings are hazardous to pedestrians
Northeast and northwest of Islamabad is where real natural beauty of Pakistan is that is why I say give India Lahore for Srinagar
@@gwadar_cpec2110 tenu amb da nai pata. eh adla badla nai hunda, lahore sif lahore nai hai, history, culture, identity hai. mehrbani kar k tusi apni salah aap de kol rakho.
@@gwadar_cpec2110 why sringar? We have nothing to do with Kussmiris who are now barking at Punjabis. They have their independent government, they can take a political action themselves. May be give Muzaffarabad and get srinagar.
Heeramandi portrayed in the season is before independence....and that was totally different what you supposed in the current senario or after partition....
It is also true that people were sent thier to learn etiquettes, Art and poetry or dance....heera mandi portray in sanje Lila's season was a little lavish but culture portrayed in the season was almost same....people are sent there to learn language as well....
Slowly there was a downfall of that culture as in Islam there is no place for these kind of activities openly......having said that overall season was good and worth seeing if u watch it only for drama and for entaintainment purpose not watch it as documentary or historical event....
جہاں عوت کی عزت نیلام ہو وہاں اللہ پاک کی لانت پڑتی ہے ہیرا منڈی کی درودیواروں سے وحشت سی ہورہی ہے مجھے پتہ نہیں کتنے بےبس اور لاچار حوا کی بیٹیوں کی عزتیں یہاں تار تار ہوئی ہونگی اسی لئے تو نور جہاں کے گھر والے شوبز سے دور ہیں وہ نہیں چاہتے کہ ان کی ماں کا ماضی انھیں یاد کیا جائے وزٹ کروانے کا شکریہ پہلی بار یہ جگہ دیکھی میں نے
لیکن لیا یہ اسلامی جمہوریہ پاکستان ہے ؟؟😂😂
@@rafaqataliarsal9034 koshish jari rehni chahiye Pakistan ko Pakistan banany ki. Mayos nai hona mery bhai. ❤
Belkol sahi kaha bhai jan app ne muje by geen aarahi he name son kar
You're thinking it is wrong and incorrect one day dimagh ka Sahi istemaal Karke ghor Karna mashra kiun kharab hua hai aapko jawab khud mil jaiyga without arts culture loug ghalat kaam mai lag jatay Hain aur mashara mindset jitna closed hote jata hai utni mulk mai tabahi ati and it has got nothing to do with Islam because Islam doesn't ban arts culture and dance agar aisa hai tou quote me the ayaat because Hazrat Dawood Allah ke paighambar was given gift of singing so singing is not Haram
Sahi kaha hai
Great 👍 I wish There never had happened all these partitions wish all would be 1 ❤👏🇹🇷
Thank you
There’s no point of criticising sanjay leela bansali he potrayed the real culture of real mandi jo yai batai kar raha hai he has portrayed each and every thing in his series hum Pakistaniyon ko sirf criticism ata hai
Have you seen old photos of real tawaifs who used to live there? Even Indians are criticizing bansali for it it’s far from reality
@@roojfatyma8951who told you we indians are criticising him ??? May be this palace have lost it’s charm now bt it used to be full of life back then n sanjay leela bansali made it clear he loves big sets so he did it that way
@@priyasinghari did you even read my reply? He likes big sets that’s why he made it like that otherwise reality is far from those sets and I’ve seen so many reviews on that. That series is a masterpiece without any doubt but it’s far from reality.
Bro it’s fictional series not documentary. Heeramandi is just an idea. Presented good sights of Heeramandi whats the issue. Ik baar dekh lijiye ❤
Sajay Leela Bhansali has shown it like grand palace. Reality is those women suffered in the small cottages
Dorector showed over 100 years ago's scenes, i am sute he presented well as per that era story, not the current or last 50 yrs, world has changed alot since few decades.
A good effort of director of heera mundi
Just wow
Its just fictional script, in the name of HeeraMandi
Exactly! just like Ertugrul.
@@saifabbas5197no, not ertugrul
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Why not ertugrul? Ertugrul is 90% fiction.
exactly Ertugrul is totally fictional mgr logon ke dil me dard hojata ha sch smjhty hain 😂😂
At least Heeramandi is more realistic than Ertugrul.
@@nycto16 yehi hota hai jub Aadhey sei zyada movie reels sei dekho 😏 heerammandi ke first episode mein hi ye statement diya hai ki the movie is fictional with real similarity . Rahe baat ertugrul ki tou ertugrul dekhne wale audience axhe sei janti hai ki ertugrul kitna real based hai aur Kitna fictional
پاکستانی سیریز مسٹر اینڈ مسز شمیم ہیرا منڈی سیریز سے بہتر ہے
Heeramandi is very beautifully directed and presented. The place and buildings are also similar as pictured in film. It just the idea SLB sahab took from this place. He is not changing any history he gave the good sights of this place, people and specially the rebellious change to get freedom from west.
Sanjayleela bhannsali acha kia h Iss history ko yadgar to banaya acha pahlo b heeramandi ka dekhaya Yahan k log to aj tK heeramandi Wohi chkla smjh kr historical places ko khatam krty ja rhy hen I think should Panjab proud on this historical place and Kuch kry Iss ko mahfoz krny k lye ta k history zinda rhy
It would have been nice to see and hear from a “Tawaif” who is still keeping this dying form of art alive. This is the actual price that Subcontinent paid due to the colonisation of this land rich with culture, art and history.
@@user.xrxs.3p8nubroBandar kya jaane adarak ka swaad 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tawaif in actual, was not a jisam farosh. She was considered the epitome of art and beauty. Performing art as well as language n literature was their landmarks. After colonization gora made them do this filthy business to keep the locals busy and let them do their business plus they were used by goras as they didn't have enough choice to meet their physical needs. 2nd thing is heera Mandi got vanished after Zia's reign as he banned prostitution so a business which was limited to heera Mandi spread all over the Lahore as those prostitute's moved around different areas of lahore.
Wait? Aapki mama aur behen bhi shayad kotha main thien
@@pet271dancing and showing their beauty to a na mehram is also not a good thing.
Are you mad or something?? Jisam faroshi kab se art bn gaya??? Ya tawaif kbse epitome of art and culture banbe lagi???
Haqeeqat se bhttt door....
Nothing more than fiction
Heera Mandi represents the North Indian Muslim culture of Lucknow and Dehli.. Kudos to Sanjay Leela Bhansali for thinking that Muslims of the Indian subcontinent are a monolith!
Great report
Agree
It was before partition
You are quite right
Wow ik hi dialogue qafi tha
Lahore ki raniyaan hain
Love from India 🇮🇳🇵🇰❤
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😮😮😮😮😊ok
اج کی لڑکیوں نے لڑکوں نے جو انسٹاگرام اور ٹیکٹوک پے جو ہیرا منڈی لگائی ہوئی ہے اس کا کیا اسلام نے جس چیز کو حرام کیا تھا وہ حلال ہو گیا اور جس کو حرام قرار دیا تھا وہ حلال ہو گیا ✅
Heeramandi is a work of fiction, it's clearly said when lettering starts. Then why so much fuss in trying to compare with reality, wasting your and my time.
Sanjey leela,s heera mandi is actualy..Heera mandi of Mukesh ambani heera mandi..too much Lavish
Yes poor Pakistan can't have anything like that.
@@rajavishnuvardhana6830it's not about India and Pakistan it's about reality which is not shown in Sanjay Leela bhansali's heera mandi
Yes, you are right. Actual 'Heeramandi' looks like 'Kheeramandi'.There's nothing like Sanjay Bhansali's magnus opus.
It is artist's freedom. He knows real Heeramandi is not like that but still he choose such lavish sets. It is his signature on the art..
@@spritualist6519Kheeramandi.😂😂
Beautiful language use for ladies ❤️❤️❤️
I'm very happy after seeing that Pakistani government and people destroyed this cursed place. Well done guys. We have to respect women's, Not treat them like products. What can used anywhere and anytime by money. Islam teach us it. Alhamdulillah we are Muslim. We should never forget our din.
Aj pta chala real heeramandi ki kahani❤❤❤❤
It's actually Hindu culture n not forbidden in their religion.... don't know why everyone imposing it on Muslims....
contd.
even your prophet pubh made a rule that 20% of the "maal e ghanimat" which consisted of captured women also called right hand possession,were given to the prophet as tax 😂😂😂
Sanjy Leela bhansali ne yeh kaha hai ke ye historic web series nhn. Just name heera mandi hai....
History to nh bta rahy bhansali
سیّد نور بھی فلم بنائیں گے ( سبزی منڈی )
Nahi naam hoga saima sandi
Bitter Truth👍
Acha hoa band ho ghi . Esi jaga nhi honi chye. ALLAH pak hum sab ko hadiyat de ameen 🙏
Enjoy kren wo haqeqat hai ya nahi chor dayn
JazakAllah, thanks bhaijaan.
So nice to hear someone from the actual area telling about it and it's history for once ❤
Glad to hear him talk about the educational and cultural part of the heera's stay and heritage.
Good article
It was a Royal or Elite Area even during Raja Ranjit Singh. Only Nawabs, Landlords could afford to enjoy dances of "Fankaars" aka Artists. Shahi Darbar (Royal Palace) had bestowed them with monthly or annual stipend. This Shahi Muhalla (The Elite Society) ruined during Abdali's attack but reinstated. Minister of Lahore Darbar, Heera Singh founded a trade center here which became Heera Mandi after his name. When British occupied this city, Tawaif or Artists became Prostitutes in real sense. The Shahi Muhalla aka the Royal Residential Area became Red Light Area officially. During Zia Era, prostitutes migrated to different locations/ housing societies within or outside of Lahore.
یہ بھی حقیقت ہے کہ ہیرا منڈی بند ہونے سے پورا لاہور ہیرا منڈی بن چکا ہے!
Only Bollywood, India, can fantasize about real history, misrepresentation of the Subcontinent past 😅
It's indian subcontinent not subcontinent
بالکل صحیح شاہی محلہ کا مطلب ہے شاہی خاندان کا رہائشی علاقہ۔ طواف کا دور نوابی خاندانوں کے دور میں شروع ہوا۔ اب وہ خواتین جو بازار حسن سے تعلق رکھتی تھیں ملک کے مختلف مقامات پر آباد ہو چکی ہیں۔
In shahi mohala Royal guests aate thy to spend good time
Filmo me decoration ke sath dikhya jata hai . Wo unka business ka part hai. Heeramandi me jo hota hogha usme kuch masala dalkar picture ye log banate hai.
Kon Kon India sai dikhaa rahaa
Hai........
طوائفوں کے بارے میں شورش کاشمیری صاحب نے کتاب لکھی ہے جس کا نام ہے "اس بازار میں" اگر سب لوگ وہ پڑھ لے تو پتہ چل جاتا ہے کہ عورت طوائف کیوں بنتی ہے۔ کس وجہ سے وہ اپنا جسم بھیجنے پر مجبور ہوجاتی ہے۔
It’s a beautiful historical + fictional film
Heeramandi ki Puri cast m se kitne logo n real m aakr is jagah kaa visit kiya tha ..???jo muhh utha kr film bnadii ..,,... atleast they should give disclaimer that its fictional.......from .. Mumbai...
1939 mei kiya app ne visit kiya tha iss jaga named shahi mohala ( heera mandi)
What iis shocking for me is that Bhansali is showing a Jeep at that time in history of the world
What is there to be shocking ?
Astghfirullah may ALLAH protect all women from such filth. Ameen ..no matter how respectful words a person uses for filth, filth remains filth
What about the widespread domestic violence which women have to face daily in the four walls of the house.....
Amazing yummy information ❤
You have to give some credit to the makers of Heeramandi and the beautiful studio sets of a time and people in the past... it has sparked a conversation to know what the real lives and places actually were. It has driven a desire to know and offers respect to the place and the people who once lived there and made contribution to independence by sheltering freedom fighters, and didn't worry about losing their honour in society. 😮 They lived and died in emotional pain without any honour, no rights in society nor respect in their lifetime but the braveheart women gave up their lives in an instant for the country by sheltering freedom fighters. Shahid for freedom they never had! ❤
Sanjay leela bhansali nai history dikhai hai , 2024 nahi dikhaya
Movie mein tawaif ko shahzadi bna k dikhaya gya hai
I dunno why BBC didn't add subtitles to this video. Whole world watches heeramandi through netflix, they might also be interested in knowing the real facts. Not everyone speaks hindi.
Thanks Jai hind thanks 🙏
India tak jaate the, bhaijan vo India hi tha
Ab Shahrah e Dastoor Islamabad shift ho Gaye hein saray
I need this video in English
Iss ellaqa ka naam Shahi muhallah se heera mandi kaesay ban gaya. Iss ki bhi aik history hai, jo aap ney nahi bataee
India Main B Har big City's Main red lights Area's Hai
Ab Modi govt Ane SE Indian industry Muslims KO Galt sabat Karne Par Rat din Lagi Hoi Hai..
Tum log esi layak ho
Be serious 😭😭
People literally are loving the show & the cast, you can't be serious
Why is it so difficult for muslims to accept the truth ?? Tum log kaun si khayali duniya me rehte ho ? Sach se itna darte kyun ho ?
Na tum ye accept karte ho ki tumhare ancestors ko talwar ki nok par musalman banaya gaya th aur na tum muslim k tawaif aur vaishya culture ko accept karte ho ...na tum muslim k bacchebazi k culture lo accept karte ho ..
Akhir sach ko accept karne me problem kya hai? Ye hi hai tum logo ki sachai ...tum log koi mahan nahi ho , galat femi se bahar aao
Jisny hinduism banaya shaitan ki ibadat ka mazhab, Satan worship. Unhi ka taluq hai in sab sa muslamano ka nh apna asli muslaman aur Islam dekha hi nh hai ksi bhi muslaman ko dekh k Islam ko judge nh krty. Aik bat batao ap kali mata ko pujtay hu aur ushi ka istemal krty hu kalay jadu ma kyun??@@stardust2270
History ko manipulate karna Indians sa acha ksi ko nh ata, aik bat bataein yah Hindu mazhab ma shadi ka bghair rahna jaiz hai? Radha aur krishna jisay ap log bhagwan manty hain bina shadi k rahty thy. Beggairti tu yahan sa shuru hui hai.
Sanjay Leela Bansali adaptation is great I really enjoyed it. From a Pakistani Pashtoon.
This is our real culture ❤❤❤
This? Romanticized prostitution?
In my opinion all those working ladies have moved on to more profitable business like Politics and are in the government now taking care of Pakistan's issues so eloquently :-)
Sunjay did great job.
I think, he tried to introduce the culture of Bazar in old times.
In a time, these women were very strong enough. Even in the period of Ayyub khan a very Strict ruler, everyone reamined be careful to Heera Mandi People.
Even govt & Military had no control in this area.
Everyone knows about General Rani........
Bro apko ya sb kaha sa pth chala …. Agr movie ma sb wrong ha
History books🥹
India itself is world's biggest hira mandi
Bhansali ko sirf islam or Pakistan ki jagahain or personality pr jhuti movies banani hoti hain jab k is k mulk mai sub se bari misal mangashkar mandir ki hai jo pehle dasiyan hoti thin or phir haalaat kharab hone k saath woh mandir b
rothel or naach gane ki jaga bn gaya , lata bai bhi wheen se belong krti hai.
Hahaha i don't know when i read this laughed so hard lmao
Yes filled with diamonds.
Cuz India is a land of diamond. Ofcourse the soil which gave birth kohinoor. So why not