The Option-O Lagom P-64 (Episode #1)

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  • @jameshoffmann
    @jameshoffmann  3 роки тому +562

    Time for a pinned comment covering errors and other bits:
    - the rubber band is really only for gripping tightly to remove the burr carrier, it can/should be left off the rest of the time. I had had it off in testing, but put it back on for the video. I apologise for this error!
    - It seems that some units out there have numbers that go the right way. This is even more confusing to me.
    - Just to be clear - the high uniformity burrs were used throughout this video, and the head to head.

    • @alboy21
      @alboy21 3 роки тому +31

      If there's no consistency to the numbers for the grind setting, that would seem to be not only a maddeningly frustrating issue, but also suggestive of a lack of attention to detail that sets alarm bells ringing for what is a fairly costly piece of kit.

    • @KnightOfRiyadh
      @KnightOfRiyadh 3 роки тому +3

      James, you missed out the easy cleaning with no tools required at all. Alignment worth highlight too.

    • @jameshoffmann
      @jameshoffmann  3 роки тому +44

      I think I covered the no tools required aspect, which is something I really like.

    • @benbirch3234
      @benbirch3234 3 роки тому +19

      I believe the lip on the dosing cup slides in between the portafilter forks with the gap facing the machine?

    • @dhwdhhskcbfusbsmsss
      @dhwdhhskcbfusbsmsss 3 роки тому +6

      @@jameshoffmann How did you find the alignment and whether it kept alignment while changing? Their website said "Each critical component on Lagom P64 is specified to a tolerance of ± 0.02mm or better. In combination with the unique unibody design, the tolerance accumulation is kept to a minimum to allow for highest precision on each Lagom P64. More importantly, the alignment is permanent and the grinder can be dismantled and reassembled without worrying about losing its alignment."
      Which I take to mean it is self-aligning? I'm wondering if you find that claim warranted for both concentric and planar alignment.

  • @MrMarki134
    @MrMarki134 3 роки тому +1080

    "I'm being fussy, but that's kind of my job"
    Yes it is James. Yes it is.

    • @connormatthews522
      @connormatthews522 3 роки тому +9

      Ventured into the comments to look for a one like this haha.

    • @WarfareJournal
      @WarfareJournal 3 роки тому +1

      @@connormatthews522 As did I.

    • @chriswatts9227
      @chriswatts9227 3 роки тому +3

      it's certainly why we're here

    • @gluedmango
      @gluedmango 3 роки тому +5

      Well, if I bought 1 and half grand worth of coffee grinder, I have the privilige for being fussy, ain't I?

    • @MrMarki134
      @MrMarki134 3 роки тому

      @@gluedmango jokes apart, I think that this is key to understand this week's reviews

  • @DerrickLorah
    @DerrickLorah 3 роки тому +1927

    Me: “Oh, just in time. I’ll hold off on buying an electric burr grinder till the end of this week.”
    James: “this grinder costs $1585, and is the cheapest of all the grinders we’ll be discussing this week.”
    Me: “Baratza encore it is.”

    • @MilesGeorgeVideos
      @MilesGeorgeVideos 3 роки тому +11

      I have a Baratza Sette 30 and its brilliant. You can easily upgrade to the 270 burrs if needed too!

    • @Bonno95
      @Bonno95 3 роки тому +44

      The prices are insane. My other half teases me for spending £100 on a Wilfa Svart!

    • @a1970gto
      @a1970gto 3 роки тому +34

      Niche Zero

    • @icowrich
      @icowrich 3 роки тому +15

      @@a1970gto Perfect balance between performance and affordability.

    • @tauronmaikar
      @tauronmaikar 3 роки тому +22

      I was sort of kicking myself for having bought the Niche, then James clarified that it is $1000 more. So we are talking about different categories of price here.

  • @Liam-qy7lu
    @Liam-qy7lu 3 роки тому +792

    Why I, with 6 pounds in the bank, am so invested in reviews like this, is a mystery

    • @colinmaynard2879
      @colinmaynard2879 3 роки тому +16

      Gives you a different topic of conversation with your bank manager? 🤔😂

    • @EduPiloni
      @EduPiloni 3 роки тому +10

      phew... i thought i was the only one.

    • @boswellwhanau
      @boswellwhanau 3 роки тому +8

      This is right up there with that video on how to butcher a cow carcass. Riveting viewing! ;)

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 3 роки тому

      Aspirations? Just in case

    • @hernancoronel
      @hernancoronel 3 роки тому +4

      Precisely! You have 6 pounds BECAUSE you are invested in reviews like this, if you weren’t you would be Warren Buffet or someone like that with zillion dollars in the bank, an old car and eating McDonald’s!

  • @weilderman19
    @weilderman19 3 роки тому +626

    James, this is going to be a fantastic week.

  • @sloveniaisgoodcountry6511
    @sloveniaisgoodcountry6511 3 роки тому +426

    If the ground coffee shot back out of the top like a mortar it would be perfect

  • @LashanR
    @LashanR 3 роки тому +639

    Forget the aeropress video, let's get a tutorial on the Hoffmann hair

    • @AyAy008
      @AyAy008 3 роки тому +26

      Don't give him ideas for more filler videos..

    • @9madness9
      @9madness9 3 роки тому +3

      Very cold and windy outside, frozen wind swept hair gell look!

    • @colinmaynard2879
      @colinmaynard2879 3 роки тому +8

      Hair tutorial ...That is fast becoming irrelevant to me 😩

    • @martinlwf1
      @martinlwf1 3 роки тому +32

      It’s pretty much the same content:
      - Don’t over-agitate
      - no need to pre infuse
      - Beware the inverted method. You may get hurt

    • @giannecarlob3937
      @giannecarlob3937 3 роки тому +2

      The hair tutorial video will actually be the Aeropress video set to be released on Apr 1

  • @MrMarki134
    @MrMarki134 3 роки тому +213

    It's finally here fellas.
    Grinder week, not the aeropress vid of course.

    • @poserscenemokid
      @poserscenemokid 3 роки тому +28

      at least we got the steam wand eggs out of the way before this

    • @carbon5261
      @carbon5261 3 роки тому +6

      I'm still waiting for The Decaf Project with morbid curiosity

    • @samboermans6155
      @samboermans6155 3 роки тому +1

      or the bialetti brikka vid

    • @kolifx
      @kolifx 3 роки тому +1

      This aeropress video is getting so much hype it can't end in any other way than in a disappointment. Not even James can live up to so much expectation. Or can he...

  • @mvadu
    @mvadu 3 роки тому +197

    "I am being fussy", when you pay $1200 for a grinder you have the right to be..

    • @sebaba001
      @sebaba001 3 роки тому +15

      1800 and it's the cheapest of the series 👀

    • @jakewarner1993
      @jakewarner1993 3 роки тому

      Literally, when you are paying that high a price for ANYTHING, you have every right to nit pick and be fussy otherwise why spend that kinda money. You dont buy a Bugatti and tell them just give me whatever you have....no you custom order that shit and complain if its not right

  • @drae
    @drae 3 роки тому +148

    I'm so hyped for this showdown!

    • @Havox7
      @Havox7 3 роки тому +4

      Didn't expect to see you over here @Drae. Love the channel man.

    • @SuperPeterpaan
      @SuperPeterpaan 3 роки тому +1

      Are you a coffee fan, @drae? Surprised to see you here!

    • @drae
      @drae 3 роки тому +4

      @@SuperPeterpaan Yes I am!

    • @SuperPeterpaan
      @SuperPeterpaan 3 роки тому +1

      @@drae Awesome to see you here, brother! Keep it caffeinated! ❤️❤️❤️

    • @drcodyfehrman
      @drcodyfehrman 3 роки тому +1

      Stoked for that Lyn Weber review.

  • @showoffvideo
    @showoffvideo 3 роки тому +187

    I keep looking at the telescope grinder in the back right... more on this later this week I assume.
    The Niche is out of my price range so this grinder series is a lot like watching a show about supercars and how we all want to drive them.

    • @dankennedy3365
      @dankennedy3365 3 роки тому +5

      thats the WeberWorks grinder you're talking about which he said he'll review tomorrow.
      that may be THE supercar of grinders

    • @069ban9
      @069ban9 3 роки тому +5

      That’ll be Harry’s garage then.

    • @arvedpi1784
      @arvedpi1784 3 роки тому

      Hahaha yeah the one you're talking about is a 4k grinder, definitely a supercar in the world of coffee grinders

    • @NB-tv4cr
      @NB-tv4cr 3 роки тому +7

      I got the EG1 from Weber about three months now using daily side by side the Niche for espresso on the La Marzocco Linea Mini .... I love the Niche more period.

    • @arvedpi1784
      @arvedpi1784 3 роки тому +2

      @@NB-tv4cr hahaha that's great considering i could never afford the eg1 but my niche will arrive next month :D

  • @andrewerickson4379
    @andrewerickson4379 3 роки тому +32

    My Lagom P64 turned up today and happy to note they listened to James and have inverted the numbers! Also the rubber ring for disassembly is now gone! I still have the ketchup pottle for RDT though :(
    Love it so far, so quiet and coming from a Chestnut X this wins hands down. More clarity and sweetness plus better body and a smoother finish.

  • @schumacherenator
    @schumacherenator 3 роки тому +48

    I love how this grinder looks like a little person in a top hat who holds the cup as they eject coffee from their nose

    • @aronjakob1
      @aronjakob1 3 роки тому +3

      I was just thinking that I would adorn this with googly eyes

    • @melissaa723
      @melissaa723 3 роки тому +4

      Can’t unsee it.

  • @txisbest2010
    @txisbest2010 3 роки тому +30

    *"I don't know what a thousand dollars means to you."*
    - James Hoffman

  • @9abe9
    @9abe9 3 роки тому +3

    What a brilliant entertainer! The idea of an entire week is awesome! Thank you for all the effort, I love your work

  • @jdschuncke
    @jdschuncke 3 роки тому +122

    it was so quiet i almost cried

    • @elpepelucho
      @elpepelucho 3 роки тому +15

      I bought a lagom last month. The first week I had it, I accidentally left it on and it was so quiet that I didn't notice for several hours that it was running.

    • @beebakrizzle
      @beebakrizzle 3 роки тому +6

      It's absolutely quiet! When paired with a Cafetlat Robot, it makes for a very quiet and enjoyable morning coffee experience.

    • @JoseGonzalez-vw9bb
      @JoseGonzalez-vw9bb 3 роки тому

      I was looking away and didn't even notice that he had turned it on. I really thought that he had skipped that part and was just showing the result.

    • @Skeein
      @Skeein 3 роки тому +3

      It makes me irrationally angry at my baratze sette.

  • @PhaTs00p
    @PhaTs00p 3 роки тому +61

    Ok looks I'll keep smashing cinder blocks together to grind my coffee.

    • @chrisrebert9271
      @chrisrebert9271 3 роки тому +4

      Which vendor do you like? I'm partial to Midwest Products Group; good weight/$ ratio, but maybe not the most robust.

  • @EricSwayne
    @EricSwayne 3 роки тому +22

    Even Hoffman’s hair is more excited than usual!

  • @marcr7583
    @marcr7583 3 роки тому +1

    James, your reviews are super nice to watch, your channel is a treasure on UA-cam!

  • @jfgad
    @jfgad 3 роки тому

    James, i’m so glad you are doing this for us. I’m in the market for a new grinder and i’m not afraid of spending a lot, but this serie should help me make up my mind. Thanks. Love your vids ( in general) always fantastic topics.

  • @RedRoverTW
    @RedRoverTW 3 роки тому +3

    This will be a great showdown. I've been waiting for the Lagom P64 review ever since I saw it hanging out in the background of an older video. Definitely one of my top choices when I upgrade my grinder.

  • @edwinalway8342
    @edwinalway8342 3 роки тому +6

    I've been using my Lagom (black) now for a couple of months and love it. I agree with comments on the dosing cup and whilst the numbers are confusing at first once you get used to them it disappears as an issue. Its well made and makes great espresso

  • @your_sweetpea
    @your_sweetpea 3 роки тому +1

    Never have I been more excited by a series of videos. Thanks, James!
    If I win one of the grinders in the patreon giveaway I will be through the roof, admittedly, but even if I don't and never buy one I'm enamoured with just watching you review expensive coffee grinders.

  • @DeWilsKanal
    @DeWilsKanal 3 роки тому

    The overpoweredness of this series is what makes it powerful. Love it.
    And here I am with my Hario Mini-Slim Pro manual grinder that takes me 5mins to grind. But boy, is it worth it! Thanks for recommending that, James.

  • @vicbarbu
    @vicbarbu 3 роки тому +5

    This is literally going to be the only comprehensive review of all these grinders. I think we (who are looking to buy a single dose grinder) are always getting a list of exactly these grinders. Yet there are not so many reviews for them. Can’t wait for the next!

  • @ecstaticducklin
    @ecstaticducklin 3 роки тому +3

    I've been wanting to buy a Lagom but figured I'd wait for this showdown before deciding.
    I'm super excited for this week's videos!

  • @davidnye1084
    @davidnye1084 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you James! I am so looking forward to the other reviews. What was conspicuously absent in this review however, was any mention of "retention", which is a major consideration when choosing a single dose coffee grinder.

  • @isaacrichardson3200
    @isaacrichardson3200 3 роки тому

    This is seriously seriously going to make my week, thanks a million

  • @allisoncarpenter6823
    @allisoncarpenter6823 2 роки тому +3

    James you've done so much to improve our appreciation for coffee. Eager to see a grinder showdown of less expensive (under $500?) grinders especially for single dose espresso if that exists.

    • @NachaBeez
      @NachaBeez Рік тому

      Check out his review of the DF64-there are also newer versions of it now that address some of his concerns.

  • @WarfareJournal
    @WarfareJournal 3 роки тому +112

    "I'm being fussy, but that's kind of my job" on a mug/t-shirt please.

  • @Kyle900t
    @Kyle900t 3 роки тому

    Excellent review. I love how you share every detail that comes to mind from using the grinder. Very valuable! Good looking grinder too!

  • @tylerhatch8962
    @tylerhatch8962 3 роки тому +1

    The film making has hit the next level on this channel, well done 👌

  • @synechdoche
    @synechdoche 3 роки тому +35

    Mr. Hoffman, you have singlehandedly upped my covid coffee game. Cheers to you, sir.

  • @catmansion
    @catmansion 3 роки тому +6

    Great review. The comment about not being able to determine if it's worth an extra $1k because you don't know what that amount /means/ to the listener is insightful and immensely appreciated.
    I regret to be the one to post the 667th comment but there we have it.

  • @shanemartin5547
    @shanemartin5547 3 роки тому

    This grinder looks awesome!
    Love your work James

  • @harijaja
    @harijaja 3 роки тому +2

    At Last! I have mine on pre-order from Option-o, a friend of mine bought one and that was the trigger for me deciding in buying it! I do agree with all the little annoyances you have James (the numbers seem counterintuitive on both dials) but everything else was a charm; the workflow, the quite it is, the aesthetics. And considering the next grinder near to its price that I had in mind for buying (the Levercraft) is almost $1,000 more, this was the option(-o) for me! :D

  • @ernestovazquez3783
    @ernestovazquez3783 3 роки тому +4

    The grind size dial thought process reminds me of the way sand paper grit is measured.

  • @AronBagel
    @AronBagel 3 роки тому +69

    And in today's episode of "Is it better than the Niche?"...

    • @stevenswann3254
      @stevenswann3254 3 роки тому +6

      Answer = yes. Miles better, in my opinion. I've owned both.

    • @eltakeiteasy
      @eltakeiteasy 3 роки тому

      @@stevenswann3254 nice edit ;)

    • @stevenswann2835
      @stevenswann2835 3 роки тому

      @@eltakeiteasy Yeah, the fact I've owned both gave my original comment context. ;-)

  • @iBen17
    @iBen17 3 роки тому

    Great review as always! More than excited for the week ahead!

  • @ihawk1984
    @ihawk1984 3 роки тому

    Mr. Hoffman. Once again, thanks for such a great video. Stumbled upon your channel some months ago. A few times I’ve wanted to comment and realized I locked myself out of comments. Finally figured it out. Keep up the nice work.

  • @navidqowsi5618
    @navidqowsi5618 Рік тому +4

    We need a p100 review

  • @mpj1969
    @mpj1969 3 роки тому +11

    Be interesting to see how you feel these stack up against the niche , which is the next step down to most of these

  • @michaelgordon2824
    @michaelgordon2824 3 роки тому

    ITS STARTING!!! So excited for this batch of videos.

  • @evanfairbanks2629
    @evanfairbanks2629 3 роки тому

    Being a photographer as well as a coffee maniac, the thumbnail for this had me intrigued about this new specialty lens. What a happy surprise. It's rare that clickbait checks off two of my passions with one click. As a recent, and quite content, Baratza Encore user this class of grinder is beyond my current needs and if I'm going for a 1000.00 upgrade, It's going to be a lens. Great video and boy is that baby quiet!

  • @perhir01
    @perhir01 3 роки тому +11

    When your Swedish eyes sees the word lagom you instantly watch.

  • @greenveg42
    @greenveg42 3 роки тому +3

    Fun fact if you don’t already know:
    ”Lagom” sort of means ”enough” or ”just right” in swedish and furthermore there is also some pride between swedes in that there is no perfect translation for the word ”lagom”.
    //swede.

  • @a395205700
    @a395205700 3 роки тому

    Been seeming this grinder on your counter for a while, finally a review! thank you! My unit should be here in few weeks!

  • @BD14Cameron
    @BD14Cameron 3 роки тому

    The showdown we all wanted! Thanks so much for doing this!

  • @starwf07
    @starwf07 3 роки тому +19

    The Finale: he will have a showdown of the grinders in this series and use the winner to grind the beans for his Aeropress technique video.

  • @DanniEfraim
    @DanniEfraim 3 роки тому +5

    Oh, I have so been looking forward to this series! It's off to a great start. This is certainly a very interesting grinder. I'm curious about using the same, single-dosing, zero retention grinder for both pour-overs and espressos at home, and the Lagom is a great contender, especially since the Niche has been out of stock since forever.
    By the way, I'm surprised you didn't mention the meaning of the word "lagom" in Swedish. Perhaps you did not know? It's a word that is often touted as uniquely Swedish. It means something akin to "not too much, not too little, but just right" and can be used about quantities, temperatures, or just about anything. The word is said to be representative of the consensual and diplomatic nature of Swedes. I'm not sure if this is where they took the name from, but it since likely, since the word has gained some international popularity in the last few years.

  • @grieselausgrusel
    @grieselausgrusel 3 роки тому

    thank you! always enjoying your content.

  • @johanleobergfors2040
    @johanleobergfors2040 3 роки тому

    Good video as always! I’m really looking forward to this week!

  • @dakkarocka
    @dakkarocka 3 роки тому +56

    Right until you poured the beans I was like ... oh snap he’s doing a episode about a microscope?

    • @sandrodunatov485
      @sandrodunatov485 3 роки тому +3

      Same reaction here... OMG is he REALLY going to check ground coffee with THAT ? Then I realized "that" was the grinder...

    • @benjamincottle8500
      @benjamincottle8500 3 роки тому +1

      I mean, I’d watch it 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dakkarocka
      @dakkarocka 3 роки тому +2

      @@benjamincottle8500 I’d watch James review toilet paper

  • @AGenericMoron
    @AGenericMoron 3 роки тому +41

    "When I bought it, I paid *one thousand five hundred and eighty five dollars*"
    Okay this is ridiculous, that's more than I've ever spent on anything.
    "...we're going to be talking about grinders *at least twice as expensive* so this is actually the *cheapest of the grinders in this series*"
    Well.

    • @robappleby583
      @robappleby583 3 роки тому +2

      For a domestic low capacity grinder that is simply ridiculous.

    • @arvedpi1784
      @arvedpi1784 3 роки тому +3

      @@robappleby583 i get why you'd say that, but you'll have to keep in mind that these are kind of the best domestic coffee grinders there are. You can easily spend 6k on a canon camera, 10k on a sound system or 50k on a good piano. It's a high end tool and made for people who are extremely passionate about coffee, and you get a lot for your money. 90% will probably never be able to afford this stuff, but I think it's more a question of how much you are willing and able to spend on your passion than it being "too expensive", as you do get a lot for the money you spend on it.

    • @robappleby583
      @robappleby583 3 роки тому +3

      @@arvedpi1784 sure I get it. I roast my own beans and use a high end hand grinder and siphon. So I like coffee. But 1500 euro for a home grinder... hmmm. Of course people can spend their money as they wish.

    • @arvedpi1784
      @arvedpi1784 3 роки тому

      @@robappleby583 yeah, I guess it's just about priorities. I would not roast at home as I can get extraordinary beans quite easily and don't think my investment in roasting equipment would improve the quality, but if I had the money I would most definitely buy one of these grinders, as I like the taste profile from flat burrs for filter coffee :)

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto 3 роки тому

      My burr grinder cost $39. I'd bet $1,585 that I couldn't taste the difference...

  • @DanielosCompaneros
    @DanielosCompaneros 3 роки тому

    Your voice is so smooth and calm. Very relaxing 😁

  • @thewowleader
    @thewowleader 3 роки тому

    Been waiting for this for so long!

  • @kinzokushirogane1594
    @kinzokushirogane1594 3 роки тому +14

    "I'm being fussy but..." No... No buts for something that pricey.

  • @nickthegun
    @nickthegun 3 роки тому +70

    You know you're deep into a hobby when you see the thumbnail and think 'here we go, now I need a microscope in my kitchen' and there's nothing weird about it

    • @SImonDeLikaeble
      @SImonDeLikaeble 3 роки тому +3

      Yep, I thought it was a perfectly sensible kitchen coffee microscope as well.

    • @nickthegun
      @nickthegun 3 роки тому +7

      @@SImonDeLikaeble - A mans got to be able check his grind size down to the nearest micron

  • @Eliashevah
    @Eliashevah 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks James, I appreciate the note about the spray. I have a really old "Salton" burr grinder, and the statics are terrible. I'm sure this will help!

  • @HaramKim_CoffeeandSugar
    @HaramKim_CoffeeandSugar 3 роки тому

    i have been waiting for this series for a long time!!!

  • @_danielmcg
    @_danielmcg 3 роки тому +9

    What a beautiful grinder! The smallest burrs in the showdown!

  • @gerocampo100
    @gerocampo100 3 роки тому +39

    James hoffman reviews microscopes week

    • @skink2020
      @skink2020 3 роки тому

      Honestly thought that’s what it was from the fingernail.

  • @CJ-zf9ci
    @CJ-zf9ci 3 роки тому

    Thanks James, I have been reading reviews about those grinder for about a year now... I think the only ones missed in that comparison would be a Titus custom ek43 and maybe one of the ceado single does grinders... Looking forward to the shootout!

  • @leekmule
    @leekmule 3 роки тому

    Great video. I'm glad I got my pre-order in before you did this video!

  • @redleg1013
    @redleg1013 3 роки тому +11

    Wow, last time I was this early Juan Valdez was still picking coffee.

  • @mrjdolman
    @mrjdolman 3 роки тому +113

    Wait, no discussion about retention? I feel like that’s a paramount topic when it comes to “single dosing” home grinders, and my understanding was that due to centrifugal force vs gravity, a flat burr grinder always necessarily has significant retention. And at that price point I would hope that it would have ~zero retention!

    • @AB-qx3pf
      @AB-qx3pf 3 роки тому +3

      Yes. Need to know retention. That will be a significant difference between these grinders. I think.

    • @macehead
      @macehead 3 роки тому +13

      Had the same thought and I imagine this will be discussed in the head-to-head between all the grinders

    • @NB-tv4cr
      @NB-tv4cr 3 роки тому

      We gotta push this post up

    • @elpepelucho
      @elpepelucho 3 роки тому +9

      I've had a lagom since November and can report that there is practically no retention, like, after a month of using it, there wasn't even a gram. There is a video on youtube about retention on the lagom, you should search for it, I'm too lazy to do that for you

    • @ulysses4536
      @ulysses4536 3 роки тому +2

      I'm pretty sure this one will be covered in the Finale of the series

  • @beanbaka
    @beanbaka 3 роки тому

    I like it,the foot print look,noise level and adjustable rpm to experiment with 👍 great review as always 🖖

  • @foxfraser
    @foxfraser 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks James, I enjoyed the review and look forward to seeing if you review the Kafatek Monolith.
    (I have the Flat version). For the Lagom your pros and cons match mine, my main issue is the numbers on the dial. I've had the grinder for a few months and am using it strictly for Filter coffee with the Unimodal burr set. Eventually I may try it for espresso.
    I really like the quality of the build, the solid design, that it is very quiet and of course that it makes a great cup of coffee consistently. I've seen that a few people have suggested the dosing cup supposed to fit in the portafilter forks of the Lagom, but this is definitely not the case, it fits & works better on top as you've shown in your video. I've tried using the dosing cup with my Monolith Flat, and the open side of the support ring does allow it to fit it under the exit chute neatly.
    All the best.

  • @Thetache
    @Thetache 3 роки тому +5

    The real test would be which "Supergrinder" could make cheap stale beans grind into tastiest espresso ! 🤣

  • @DJ_SayWhaaaat
    @DJ_SayWhaaaat 3 роки тому +30

    "I paid $1585 for this"
    *WAIT - HOW MUCH?!*
    "This is by far the cheapest grinder in this particular series."
    *CRIES IN POOR PERSON 😭*
    Quality content as always from James, but geez, those sort of prices...

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 3 роки тому +2

      There's a reason why Crack is Cheaper.

    • @mickeyred
      @mickeyred 3 роки тому +2

      I play this when my wife is in the room. Me wanting a 9Barista doesn't seem too bad.

  • @davidterlicher1985
    @davidterlicher1985 3 роки тому

    Great reviews so far. Looking forward to the monolith and ultra!

  • @greenishbluelabel
    @greenishbluelabel 3 роки тому

    Mr Hoffman new 2021 studio just gave us a week of bliss

  • @bitcoins3212
    @bitcoins3212 3 роки тому +5

    When you spend enough money on coffee related items to run a cafe but are serving only yourself...😅

  • @ericpetersen8155
    @ericpetersen8155 3 роки тому +7

    “It wrecks my head”
    I understand

  • @tonyhillson898
    @tonyhillson898 3 роки тому

    Great review, thanks James

  • @ruisearts
    @ruisearts 3 роки тому

    FINALLY! THANK YOU SIR JAMES, YES! SHOWDOWNS!

  • @shrey44kandhari
    @shrey44kandhari 3 роки тому +10

    I like how James doesn’t say “Like, Share and Subscribe” like most people on UA-cam.

  • @iKeto_gal
    @iKeto_gal 3 роки тому +3

    When I saw title, I for some reason thought of Marvin and the Illudium Pu-36 Space modulator

  • @Jsmith1611
    @Jsmith1611 2 роки тому +1

    Love that you called out the lack of price transparency

  • @anyichng
    @anyichng 3 роки тому

    Been waiting for something like this! Wish you did this series before i committed to the EK. :D

  • @davidkim5793
    @davidkim5793 3 роки тому +3

    I think the point of the dosing cup's lip absence is to accommodate the back of the portafilter fork when you seat the dosing cup between the fork tines like the portafilter's tabs.

    • @harijaja
      @harijaja 3 роки тому

      Nah, you can't accommodate the dosing cup in the portafilter fork. :/

    • @droopylol
      @droopylol 3 роки тому

      No, that's not it. It doesn't make any difference.

  • @scalwi
    @scalwi 3 роки тому +7

    I would be curious to see this compared the single-dosing version of the Ceado E5P, which can accommodate the same SSP burrs. I would love to have it compared for workflow, grind quality/espresso quality, and grind retention.

  • @DarrinLin
    @DarrinLin 3 роки тому

    Oh man I've been hoping for a video on this and it's finally here

  • @Riccardo_Mori
    @Riccardo_Mori 3 роки тому

    Off-topic, but: congratulations on reaching 700,000 subscribers! Well deserved, good sir.

  • @magemor7827
    @magemor7827 3 роки тому +10

    I wish that you would test for retention. Considering that it's a single dose grinder, how much coffee do you get out of it if you put a certain amount in if the grinder was just cleaned? But great video anyway, as always. Looking forward to the rest of the week

  • @user-rd1nh9fw5q
    @user-rd1nh9fw5q 3 роки тому +5

    The gap on the dosing cup might have been carved out to make it easier for use on other grinders - especially the EK-43. Some other dosing cups like the one from Acaia have similar structures. Still I don't get it whether this is necessary for a dosing cup which should be dedicated to Lagom P64. Thanks for the great review.

    • @user-rd1nh9fw5q
      @user-rd1nh9fw5q 3 роки тому

      @Peter Ward Peter, thank you for your warm comment. I hope you enjoyed your stay here.
      I also believe it would be great to have Korean closed captions here; James provides very high quality videos that worth better accessibility around the globe.

  • @dellis67
    @dellis67 3 роки тому

    Oh James, what a wonderful review! And if I do say so myself, I find myself a little bit charmed by you!!

  • @c_woelfl
    @c_woelfl 3 роки тому

    This is going to be a very interesting video series and one I think well worth doing as these are pitched as 'End-Game Grinders' with price-tags to match. I'm looking forward to your perspective on these machines as I'm looking to up my filter game from a Comandante and my only experience is with the EK43 in a cafe (my workplace) with an unknown burr set.
    The other thing I think is worth noting is rep of the manufactures, to the best of your ability. For example: An EG-1 would be much harder to find someone out there to do a local service claim or repair than an EK43 and the EK43 (locally) is almost $2000 AUD cheaper and they're everywhere making them cheaper than an E65 series grinder. Thoughts and ramblings maybe.
    As always, thank you for your time and energy making these videos they are always appreciated.

  • @izarscharf7845
    @izarscharf7845 3 роки тому +21

    Somehow my brain thought: ah a smallish grinder maybe even in my price range.....ooh well i guess not xD

    • @nowtacoma
      @nowtacoma 3 роки тому

      Gasps all around at price. Affordable grinders are a challenge. But, with the law of diminishing returns...

    • @izarscharf7845
      @izarscharf7845 3 роки тому +1

      @@nowtacoma its probably best to just buy preground regularly from a local roastery or cafe, beats the huge investment in the grinder, is always constant for one coffee, and lets you start with a second hand Gaggia or rancilo silva for as little as 200€ or so

    • @instantkamera
      @instantkamera 3 роки тому +1

      @@izarscharf7845 No it's not. Buy a good hand grinder, there are plenty of budget options (many of which JH has covered). Espresso can be done affordably, but if your starting point robs you of the ability to learn the dial-in process, it's a waste of money and will potentially put you off making it at all.
      I started with a Flair (back when there was only the one option) and a Helor 101. I know own the Lagom and I still use a Flair; that should tell you how much more important the grinder is for good coffee than the machine/prep method.

    • @TheAndrewc5120
      @TheAndrewc5120 3 роки тому +1

      @@instantkamera fr i use an 1zpresso jx-pro and actually prefer it to using my encore. same price, but quicker, more consistent, and can grind finer for dialing in. the baratza makes pots of coffee, the 1zpresso makes shots!

  • @SantosAl
    @SantosAl 3 роки тому +3

    Before I started watching this channel I was an average guy drinking his coffee by the bucket load with a normal coffee machine.
    Now I own a Moka pot, aeropress, french press, a hand grinder and different types of coffee beans. James, you've utterly corrupted me you bastard.

    • @dberne
      @dberne 3 роки тому +1

      Don’t forget the chemex and siphon coffee makers. I have one hand grinder, but it may get upgraded soon. And I have already upgraded my electric grinder several times, passing on the lesser contenders to family and friends. I’m not saving money by making my coffee at home, that’s certain...

    • @SantosAl
      @SantosAl 3 роки тому +1

      @@dberne Where did we go wrong my friend? we were so innocent once.

  • @sightfire
    @sightfire 3 роки тому +2

    That little inadvertent smirk at 3:25 brought a smile to my face

  • @ethanjto
    @ethanjto 3 роки тому

    I have a Monolith Max and I'm pretty confident it stacks up well against the grinders being showcased this week, but you have the new burrs that no one has yet! I'm looking forward to that review the most.

  • @sab4251
    @sab4251 3 роки тому +3

    And here I thought the Niche was expensive. We’re going to a whole new level...

  • @coffeewithcarl1779
    @coffeewithcarl1779 3 роки тому +3

    Looking forward to the guest creators in February !

  • @ut4321
    @ut4321 2 роки тому

    Just a head's up to everyone: The P64 is back in stock at Prima as of today. Price has gone up since James's review, so my order with the 3 yr protection plan came to $2518. There were no burr options available when I ordered - it was the "standard burr set". Thanks again to James for his diligence on these reviews!

  • @garrett_m_m
    @garrett_m_m 3 роки тому

    It's amazing how quiet it is. Great review good sir.

  • @TheMorgwhhlshilth
    @TheMorgwhhlshilth 3 роки тому +8

    "Lagom" means "enough","just enough" in Swedish. Makes for a second of major confusion and then the base for a good joke, as this seems to be anything than lagom.

  • @alanlansdell7533
    @alanlansdell7533 3 роки тому +30

    Having watched the pain in his eyes when the portafilter fell on the counter, and the scrambled egg video how about us less skilled viewers send in videos of our morning routine for James to critique/suffer severe mental torture. Would make excellent content 🙂

    • @bazza945
      @bazza945 3 роки тому

      But will it turn base metal into gold?

  • @emreturkeli
    @emreturkeli 3 роки тому

    I think Turin / G-IOTA / DF64 should definetly deserves mentioning (and a review IMHO) considering it's pretty much an exact budget replica of this product and it's even cheaper than Niche (some even says that it is better than Niche for espresso since using flat burr)
    And the fact that it was on your kitchen during your last beginner's guide to Coffee Grinders video is a huge spoiler that excites me! Hoping that it'll come soon!

  • @atharvadeuskar
    @atharvadeuskar 3 роки тому

    The intros are getting better and better everytime !!