I would say I prefer to play against tight players in a tournament because of their predictability, which lowers my risk and maniac players in a cash game because I think you can profit more playing against a maniac.
For me, it’s gotta be a 3-way tie between: -The straightforward “might as well turn their cards face up” type -the overly aggressive “straddles for 15bb, and sometimes plays all 3 streets without looking” type -the loose-passive “call with any draw and any pair, will almost always call it off with top pair” type You can basically never mistake against the first type, and can print money against the other two.
Yeah, I don't know about that fold with the Q-high flush. I play against a lot of these incredibly straightforward players that never value bet thinly on the river.. but they are CONSTANTLY overvaluing two pairs, sets, and straights in those situations. And if we have been pummeling them with aggressive play they love nothing more than "trying to get us" with those types of hands. ...For me to make that fold he has to be the tightest of OMCs. EDIT: Okay, after seeing hand two, he is clearly the tightest of OMCs. But given the player pool where I play, I would definitely have needed to see that hand as well to deduce that.
15:00 - there's like a 0.1% chance that someone has not only a K or A spade, but ALSO a 2nd spade when there are 5/13 spades being blocked. preeeeettty safe to call that all in. Especially when he was checking on all the flops.
yeah honestly there is a lot of hands he could be shoving with that you beat, worse flush, straights, sets, etc. i feel like you have to call. me personally i could never fold in this spot
I'm constantly struggling with maintaining GTO in low-stakes (sub 10/20nl). I will say I think (and I could be wrong) sticking to it until you gage the table is probably the smartest approach. But once you realize your players ranges and tendencies you adjust accordingly. I stay out of the way of nit players if I don't have the nuts unless they overfold. Better to bet them out and win small pots 9/10 hands and just fold the ones they stick around - which is what I think we are talking about here. Why fold Q high flush? Because you are going to win out the next 9 hands before turn/river with value or overbets then you still end up in the positive rather than risking your whole stack over one hand against a player that wouldn't make that play without the nuts or 2nd nuts. You have 3rd nuts? Ok congrats I'll get you later.
I agree. I fold alot to nits. Yes they do over fold. The best is when they have a 2nd third nuts and you're nutted and you stack em. Happens once in awhile. If they call ur flop bet alarms start going off. Esp if it's old man joe playing 1-5 hands an hour lol.
Against the wild kid on the K6639 runout, I think I like checking a lot anyway, because while most of his 6x should bet the turn, super nut hands will check and even some better Kx will check as well. If it goes check/check our opponent is supposed to bet at least some of the time with a K so they can easily value own themselves, plus as you noted they can easily pick off bluffs.
This is a really excellent video - you should do more of these........Couple with defending your BB against different types - the raised BB bet is 90% of the game....
Jonathan , question for you about the QS 10S hand where we have the flush on the river, if we cannot call the shove getting close to 4 to 1 odds , would it be better to check and call a bet ? ( We put in 15 K and fold without show down when they raise , if we check and call a 15 K bet, this way we put in the same ammount but we get to see his holding) I just feel like bet-folding this river is a disaster. We have over half our chips in the pot at this point , I think I would bet and call the shove , or just check and if they bet I would call , or just lose value if they check back ... both of these options seem better than bet-folding the river with half our stack already in this pot
I've been running deep but when I gey down to the final 15 to 20 players always finding myself short stack...what am I doing wrong? Yesterday I was chip leader in a bounty tournament 180 bb 2nd player was on 89 bb with 60 players left... I ended up finishing 18th... I found myself playing tight when I had that huge lead..I'm a decent player who has won many low and midstake tournaments in the past but since I've been watching bencb I seem to be losing a lot 😢..I'm assuming that he style of player doesn't suit low to mid stake tournament's.. I used to watch alot of live poker and played online to that style and was winning alot..I genuinely believe if I can correct my mistakes I'll be a force in years to come... John I've heard your the best I've got a 109 deep stack tournament starting soon but going to buy in with 30 bb left and a 55 bounty tournament to..I'm hoping you're advice gets me back to winning ways..
On the two hands against the 50 year old guy with sunglasses (who was not me, by the way) - the only things I might do differently are bet slightly bigger on the turn in both spots. 1. In hand 1, villain probably starts to fold out hands as strong as a 9 there which is great for us. Our plan would be to primarily bet smallish, intending to fold to a jam - knowing that our opponent will almost always call with worse and shove with better. 2. On the second hand, I might be inclined to bet bigger on turn as well. We don't mind threatening our opponent's stack there and being able to fold out hands are strong as a medium A (which actually start to fold there at equilibrium) is pretty cool. Even if villain calls turn there they're almost certainly going to overfold river - especially if it means they go broke - which is great for us as well.
Hey boss your volumes are always lower than all the other UA-cam videos I watch. I would recommend raising the volume until it clips , then dial it back to where it stops
New to poker, question: I was playing a low-stake tourney and raised to 2 BB with KQs UTG, with 12 BB left in my stack (it was pretty late into the tourney). The Button 3-bets to 4.5 BB with 64 BB in his stack and action folds back to me. Thinking I don't wanna call and be OOP with this hand, I go all in to put max pressure. Button then calls with AQo and I lose. Was this bad play/reasoning? I'm starting to think KQ is a fold when I get 3-bet OOP.
Just because you lost doesn't mean you made bad decision. One of the pros of being short stacked is people will try and shove you out with middling hands or os Broadway. Even weak os gappers/connectors. This is why it's normally best to just shove especially in tournament setting when you get full Broadway or strong suited in almost any position. One of the hardest realities of Poker is variance can kill you even when you make all the right choices. I recently went all in with pocket kings after flop showed AAK. Lost to cat with pocket Aces and he had me covered in a $1500 pot. It hurt like a mofo but 100/100 times I would have done it the same because what are the chances he's sitting above a set of As?
Yes if ur UTG and short stacked you are better off just calling to see the flop. KQ is a great hand but so is every hand preflop. Plus at the end of the day usually someone at the table has an Ace. And if they hit an Ace even with low kicker, you will be crushed if an Ace flops. With that said, you are out of position and have the button to worry about especially if you studied the table first and mentally noted or studied their betting patterns and their card range for at least an hour of folding. If the button is chipped up and has you heavily covered they will call your all in just to gamble and have no problem losing cuz they will still have plenty of chips left. Pushing all in to me is an easy way out for the less experienced player since they don’t need to actually worry about playing poker. All ins imo are an easy way out when you feel intimidated. An Ace with crush a KQ. At that point your crossing your fingers for a two pair or a straight to beat that ace and that’s a rough situation.
This is a little bit off topic but I feel this is right community to ask for advice. It all started Couple of months ago when I got fired from my work, I realised that finding a new job would take time and that I needed some way to make money meanwhile . Poker has been a huge obsession for me the last couple of years and my dream has always been to become a professional . So i decided why not give it a try and started grinding low/mid stakes and started to take poker seriously (brm etc). Ever since things have gone surprisingly good. And I have made about twice at much money from grinding poker 6-8 hours a day than I did from my 9-5 job. I have never really studied poker I’ve just became a decent player from experience and watching youtube videos Twitch Etc. The questions I have is : A.)How much of your bankroll is it worth to invest in masterclasses, solvers etc? B.) And where to start? Considering my knowledge is pretty good about poker but I have never really been studying before.
Bankroll management is the most important thing when trying to go pro. If you can't eat a 20+ buy-in downswing, you shouldn't consider spending anything until you can. Even then, putting money into classes or tools will only be useful if it would improve your EV dramtically at your current level or get you into a higher level. Jonathan has a few free videos on bankroll management that are really good. Don't go broke and good hunting!
I'm watching this on my cell phone so forgive me if I'm misreading the suits, but how on Earth does this person fold King Jack of Spades which is the nuts at 19:57?
Is it really "incorrect" to fold two pair when someone shoves with a straight on the board though? Isn't it ok to let someone get away with a bluff on occasion in exchange for not spewing all your chips every time you're likely beat?
It’s not too “straighty” of a board since it’s just AK4J2 rainbow, it’s just ONE possible gutshot, it’s not even where you can have multiple random gutshots. Scary boards would be 3/4 liners, maybe with flush completed, 4 to flush. But there are exceptions to everything, but in that specific hand I would say no. Edit: 53 doesn’t count, it’s a 3bet pot.
> invent scenario > fold and argue it was the best decision > “i don’t know what he had! We folded! Ha ha ha” What a perfect example of a self-fulfilling paradigm…
People who limp AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, KQ, JJ, TT,. Actually, anyone who limps anything. Its annoying but usually so face up and i enjoy making decent players fold big pairs on the river.
Im not sure if i have this right but the QTs hand, is it $23,000 to win $100,000? I get the point but I'm not folding, at the very least the table will know i don't fold easily.
Problem with these videos is that the advice and information provided in them only work if you're playing people that understand and play the same way. When you're playing against rec's and calling stations, it doesn't work. You can play the very best poker and you're still going to get crushed by these players that are absolutely terrible
What is your favorite player type to battle against at the poker table? 🤑
Maniac
LAG players
The hold and folders
I would say I prefer to play against tight players in a tournament because of their predictability, which lowers my risk and maniac players in a cash game because I think you can profit more playing against a maniac.
For me, it’s gotta be a 3-way tie between:
-The straightforward “might as well turn their cards face up” type
-the overly aggressive “straddles for 15bb, and sometimes plays all 3 streets without looking” type
-the loose-passive “call with any draw and any pair, will almost always call it off with top pair” type
You can basically never mistake against the first type, and can print money against the other two.
Yeah, I don't know about that fold with the Q-high flush. I play against a lot of these incredibly straightforward players that never value bet thinly on the river.. but they are CONSTANTLY overvaluing two pairs, sets, and straights in those situations. And if we have been pummeling them with aggressive play they love nothing more than "trying to get us" with those types of hands.
...For me to make that fold he has to be the tightest of OMCs.
EDIT: Okay, after seeing hand two, he is clearly the tightest of OMCs. But given the player pool where I play, I would definitely have needed to see that hand as well to deduce that.
That's the purpose of this video. Exploiting specific player types. Is this a fold against the maniacal kid in the second segment? Hell no.
i have to agree he could easily be going for value with a worse hand
15:00 - there's like a 0.1% chance that someone has not only a K or A spade, but ALSO a 2nd spade when there are 5/13 spades being blocked. preeeeettty safe to call that all in. Especially when he was checking on all the flops.
yeah honestly there is a lot of hands he could be shoving with that you beat, worse flush, straights, sets, etc. i feel like you have to call. me personally i could never fold in this spot
Me either, if he's got it he's got it.
It's a very, very clear fold against said player. Simple as that.
I love when JL says “obviously”…. And I say “is it obvious to me?” Still have lots to learn! Thanks JL
I'm constantly struggling with maintaining GTO in low-stakes (sub 10/20nl). I will say I think (and I could be wrong) sticking to it until you gage the table is probably the smartest approach. But once you realize your players ranges and tendencies you adjust accordingly. I stay out of the way of nit players if I don't have the nuts unless they overfold. Better to bet them out and win small pots 9/10 hands and just fold the ones they stick around - which is what I think we are talking about here. Why fold Q high flush? Because you are going to win out the next 9 hands before turn/river with value or overbets then you still end up in the positive rather than risking your whole stack over one hand against a player that wouldn't make that play without the nuts or 2nd nuts. You have 3rd nuts? Ok congrats I'll get you later.
I agree. I fold alot to nits. Yes they do over fold. The best is when they have a 2nd third nuts and you're nutted and you stack em. Happens once in awhile. If they call ur flop bet alarms start going off. Esp if it's old man joe playing 1-5 hands an hour lol.
I’ll answer now and again after the webinar: my favorite player type is the one that gives me all their chips.
So you hate everyone??
@@eternalselph I didn’t know this was a love/hate question. I thought it was just what player type was my favorite. My bad goofy
That's why we love playing with you
Whoosh
You will hate me then.
Against the wild kid on the K6639 runout, I think I like checking a lot anyway, because while most of his 6x should bet the turn, super nut hands will check and even some better Kx will check as well. If it goes check/check our opponent is supposed to bet at least some of the time with a K so they can easily value own themselves, plus as you noted they can easily pick off bluffs.
This is a really excellent video - you should do more of these........Couple with defending your BB against different types - the raised BB bet is 90% of the game....
ya
Thankyou!
I study every video you publish. Thanks coach.
Thanks 👍🏿
As a 50-ish year old player who wears sunglasses, I feel seen. (even though I would absolutely have never played AK like that)
Jonathan , question for you about the QS 10S hand where we have the flush on the river, if we cannot call the shove getting close to 4 to 1 odds , would it be better to check and call a bet ? ( We put in 15 K and fold without show down when they raise , if we check and call a 15 K bet, this way we put in the same ammount but we get to see his holding) I just feel like bet-folding this river is a disaster. We have over half our chips in the pot at this point , I think I would bet and call the shove , or just check and if they bet I would call , or just lose value if they check back ... both of these options seem better than bet-folding the river with half our stack already in this pot
One of the best vids from a master of excellent content. Thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it Michael!
The flush c/r river spot with the 50 year old the 1 hand not mentioned is ak with a spade.
when i heard that “such is life” at 15:30 i instantly thought of denegs 😭
Jonathon, who is your favorite poker player? And how would you describe their style? Thanks!
Any Player that signs up for his coaching 😂
The players who spell his name right
On the last hand, if you were the player with pocket aces, how would you have played it differently?
You don't. It just happens sometimes. Sucks when you get your aces cracked. But it's flippin sweet when you do it to someone else.
I've been running deep but when I gey down to the final 15 to 20 players always finding myself short stack...what am I doing wrong? Yesterday I was chip leader in a bounty tournament 180 bb 2nd player was on 89 bb with 60 players left... I ended up finishing 18th... I found myself playing tight when I had that huge lead..I'm a decent player who has won many low and midstake tournaments in the past but since I've been watching bencb I seem to be losing a lot 😢..I'm assuming that he style of player doesn't suit low to mid stake tournament's.. I used to watch alot of live poker and played online to that style and was winning alot..I genuinely believe if I can correct my mistakes I'll be a force in years to come... John I've heard your the best I've got a 109 deep stack tournament starting soon but going to buy in with 30 bb left and a 55 bounty tournament to..I'm hoping you're advice gets me back to winning ways..
I can’t tell you how many times I hero fold the flush in this exact scenario and the OMC proudly turns over a set.
haha, nice one
On the two hands against the 50 year old guy with sunglasses (who was not me, by the way) - the only things I might do differently are bet slightly bigger on the turn in both spots.
1. In hand 1, villain probably starts to fold out hands as strong as a 9 there which is great for us. Our plan would be to primarily bet smallish, intending to fold to a jam - knowing that our opponent will almost always call with worse and shove with better.
2. On the second hand, I might be inclined to bet bigger on turn as well. We don't mind threatening our opponent's stack there and being able to fold out hands are strong as a medium A (which actually start to fold there at equilibrium) is pretty cool. Even if villain calls turn there they're almost certainly going to overfold river - especially if it means they go broke - which is great for us as well.
17:11. Do you surrender if he leads out with half pot bet? I would.
Hey boss your volumes are always lower than all the other UA-cam videos I watch. I would recommend raising the volume until it clips , then dial it back to where it stops
Some basic compression action would do the trick as well
* Rolls eyes * 🙄
New to poker, question: I was playing a low-stake tourney and raised to 2 BB with KQs UTG, with 12 BB left in my stack (it was pretty late into the tourney). The Button 3-bets to 4.5 BB with 64 BB in his stack and action folds back to me. Thinking I don't wanna call and be OOP with this hand, I go all in to put max pressure. Button then calls with AQo and I lose. Was this bad play/reasoning? I'm starting to think KQ is a fold when I get 3-bet OOP.
KQs is shove UTG at 14bb.
Just because you lost doesn't mean you made bad decision. One of the pros of being short stacked is people will try and shove you out with middling hands or os Broadway. Even weak os gappers/connectors. This is why it's normally best to just shove especially in tournament setting when you get full Broadway or strong suited in almost any position. One of the hardest realities of Poker is variance can kill you even when you make all the right choices. I recently went all in with pocket kings after flop showed AAK. Lost to cat with pocket Aces and he had me covered in a $1500 pot. It hurt like a mofo but 100/100 times I would have done it the same because what are the chances he's sitting above a set of As?
Yes if ur UTG and short stacked you are better off just calling to see the flop. KQ is a great hand but so is every hand preflop. Plus at the end of the day usually someone at the table has an Ace. And if they hit an Ace even with low kicker, you will be crushed if an Ace flops. With that said, you are out of position and have the button to worry about especially if you studied the table first and mentally noted or studied their betting patterns and their card range for at least an hour of folding. If the button is chipped up and has you heavily covered they will call your all in just to gamble and have no problem losing cuz they will still have plenty of chips left. Pushing all in to me is an easy way out for the less experienced player since they don’t need to actually worry about playing poker. All ins imo are an easy way out when you feel intimidated. An Ace with crush a KQ. At that point your crossing your fingers for a two pair or a straight to beat that ace and that’s a rough situation.
I always lose with KQo. That hand is cursed.
This is a little bit off topic but I feel this is right community to ask for advice. It all started Couple of months ago when I got fired from my work, I realised that finding a new job would take time and that I needed some way to make money meanwhile . Poker has been a huge obsession for me the last couple of years and my dream has always been to become a professional . So i decided why not give it a try and started grinding low/mid stakes and started to take poker seriously (brm etc). Ever since things have gone surprisingly good. And I have made about twice at much money from grinding poker 6-8 hours a day than I did from my 9-5 job. I have never really studied poker I’ve just became a decent player from experience and watching youtube videos Twitch Etc. The questions I have is :
A.)How much of your bankroll is it worth to invest in masterclasses, solvers etc?
B.) And where to start? Considering my knowledge is pretty good about poker but I have never really been studying before.
Bankroll management is the most important thing when trying to go pro. If you can't eat a 20+ buy-in downswing, you shouldn't consider spending anything until you can. Even then, putting money into classes or tools will only be useful if it would improve your EV dramtically at your current level or get you into a higher level. Jonathan has a few free videos on bankroll management that are really good. Don't go broke and good hunting!
As someone who is about to turn 25 I found this funny, but very informative still 😅
Bet
I'm watching this on my cell phone so forgive me if I'm misreading the suits, but how on Earth does this person fold King Jack of Spades which is the nuts at 19:57?
4 is a club, not a spade
I never used GTO. I have taken down quite a few tournaments in first and placed in many more mtt.
Plz teach me 😃
Didn't realize I was watching a commercial until, "logically", 40 seconds in.
Bet AK
Oh good a J.L. Video, ok let me just slow it down to half speed.
Is it really "incorrect" to fold two pair when someone shoves with a straight on the board though? Isn't it ok to let someone get away with a bluff on occasion in exchange for not spewing all your chips every time you're likely beat?
there’s no right answer so sure why not
It’s not too “straighty” of a board since it’s just AK4J2 rainbow, it’s just ONE possible gutshot, it’s not even where you can have multiple random gutshots. Scary boards would be 3/4 liners, maybe with flush completed, 4 to flush. But there are exceptions to everything, but in that specific hand I would say no.
Edit: 53 doesn’t count, it’s a 3bet pot.
Really depends, most of the time especially live cash, people don't shove all in unless their nutted.
Ain't folding Q 10 flush for that amount
Hey coach,looking for valentine special.
My dad plays like the “50 year old with Sun-glasses” player. People still pay him off in the first situation.
Pretty chuffed I called the k10 of diamonds.
He almost seems like a little bit of a sociopath. I love it.
> invent scenario
> fold and argue it was the best decision
> “i don’t know what he had! We folded! Ha ha ha”
What a perfect example of a self-fulfilling paradigm…
People who limp AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, KQ, JJ, TT,. Actually, anyone who limps anything. Its annoying but usually so face up and i enjoy making decent players fold big pairs on the river.
you need some sun, son.
It 's a joke.
@@marcjtdcglad it was a joke. Was gonna ban you from the channel
Im not sure if i have this right but the QTs hand, is it $23,000 to win $100,000? I get the point but I'm not folding, at the very least the table will know i don't fold easily.
What is the best way to exploit black players
How many black guys does it take to screw in a lightbulb?...........1 you racist prik!
Lmaoooo
Problem with these videos is that the advice and information provided in them only work if you're playing people that understand and play the same way. When you're playing against rec's and calling stations, it doesn't work. You can play the very best poker and you're still going to get crushed by these players that are absolutely terrible
My favorite are the ultra conservative guys. They are easy to get off of marginal hands.
From what I have seen, the second type "testosterone bully" is more likely to trap when they do have a big hand.
Loose passive. Just bet your decent and better hands until they raise you
That strategy will never work. What if they counter by………….
AKs continue betting and make it lager so you get your moneys worth
Seems that the river should have been at least a little over half pot so they get them to think that it worth seeing? But you could jam as well.
i can’t listen to this guy
I have to slow it down. He talks too fast.
That’s too bad for you. He has great info.