Would Tamar Braxton Be TAMAR BRAXTON Without TONI BRAXTON? [BFV - S4E9 | Surprise Me Not]

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  • @FavoriteBFVMoments
    @FavoriteBFVMoments  5 років тому +626

    I love Toni's "oops!" face at 4:45. 😂😂

    • @erika8767
      @erika8767 5 років тому +19

      Favorite BFV Moments 😂😂😂

    • @Emo-but-cute
      @Emo-but-cute 5 років тому +10

      @Favorite BFV Moments 😂😂😂

    • @thomaslve463
      @thomaslve463 4 роки тому +29

      All them need to thank Toni because I still listen to her song

    • @torreugenia80
      @torreugenia80 4 роки тому +3

      Habrá cambiado ya Tamar con respecto a lo q es la vida. Todo lo q No puede conseguir lo defenestrado, aunque sea bueno para los demás. Babyface es un lujo para ella, ya quisiera Tamar trabajar con él. Toni es el Amor de su vida Músical

    • @KelseysWrld
      @KelseysWrld 4 роки тому +3

      Lolll

  • @wavyblkqueen
    @wavyblkqueen 2 роки тому +2016

    Trina said if that’s the case go by Tamar Herbert & not Braxton !!!! AND THAT’S ALL THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE SAID!!!

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому +30

      Tamar have five albums if was for Toni she would have been make it

    • @TheBABS09
      @TheBABS09 Рік тому +162

      @@loveallshay1659 It still all stems back to Toni like Towanda said if it wasn't for bfv values you wouldn't know who Tamar was and it would be no braxton family values without Toni ,Tamar begged Toni to do bfv cause they weren't gonna pick up the show without Toni, I've always wondered why she didn't go by Herbert and we know why because the Braxton named held wait because of Toni let's be real

    • @wavyblkqueen
      @wavyblkqueen Рік тому +84

      @@TheBABS09 exactly because Toni didn’t even want to do the show. Tamar had to practically beg her.

    • @wavyblkqueen
      @wavyblkqueen Рік тому +47

      @@loveallshay1659 Toni definitely did. She had record deals and lost them all because of her nasty attitude. She had to marry an executive producer just to get off the ground herself.

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому +8

      @@wavyblkqueen her album made it to the billboards stop judging her like your perfect. If you been through what she’s been through you would have an attitude as welll so bye

  • @musicmoneychecks9602
    @musicmoneychecks9602 2 роки тому +1572

    Tamar completely embarrassed herself on this show. She really let that little fame get to her head, constantly downplayed Toni's contributions, and disrespected everyone around her only to have a 2-3 year run in music. Now she's just stuck in the revolving door of reality show after reality show. She really sabotaged herself, meanwhile Toni is almost 40 years in. Humility goes a long way.

    • @drubert1981
      @drubert1981 2 роки тому +209

      Her personality is why she'd never get to Toni's level. Toni is media trained and knows how to carry herself.

    • @KombatKrincess
      @KombatKrincess 2 роки тому +8

      lies

    • @tremaynesmith6419
      @tremaynesmith6419 2 роки тому +32

      Very true!

    • @CuirPhotodotNet
      @CuirPhotodotNet 2 роки тому +64

      @@drubert1981 ....and one of the most beautiful....sensual....iconic....talented artists in the industry...and everyone knows it....and Tamar cannot abide it....that eats at her....

    • @ltimore451
      @ltimore451 2 роки тому +78

      @@drubert1981 so true!! And Babyface could see it too, that's why Toni was chosen

  • @kiingkay
    @kiingkay 5 років тому +884

    " No Toni, No Toni "
    Trina is NOTTT having it lol

    • @99KuTpie
      @99KuTpie Рік тому +46

      Trina said nawl, let me get her 😂

    • @boikanyoleabile4393
      @boikanyoleabile4393 Рік тому +19

      She kills me everytir she says No Toni

  • @timeayoung8778
    @timeayoung8778 Рік тому +779

    I LOVE how Traci be unbothered every time they argue at dinner. Rip Traci 🕊️

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 Рік тому +33

      Traci wasn't about to be out there fighting with them. That's why she was living her life peacefully in Maryland with the dad and brother.

    • @KimarieVIP
      @KimarieVIP Рік тому +20

      Actually, I see Toni and Traci in these episodes go into protection mode due to past traumas…that’s what people do when they’ve survived childhood trauma.

    • @AnAdorableWombat1
      @AnAdorableWombat1 9 місяців тому +15

      She was getting sick at this time. Toni mentioned her being hoarse. She passed from esophageal cancer😢

    • @LifeWithArlette
      @LifeWithArlette 9 місяців тому +5

      “Where’s my steak” 😂😂🙏🏾

    • @nicolejimenez6477
      @nicolejimenez6477 8 місяців тому

      Same here.. Traci was all the way there for it

  • @Simplykiebby
    @Simplykiebby 4 роки тому +1377

    I knew a Toni before I knew a Tamar.

    • @llbabygirl1528
      @llbabygirl1528 4 роки тому +7

      I kr

    • @beingkylerjade1139
      @beingkylerjade1139 4 роки тому +14

      I knew Tamar before Toni

    • @Simplykiebby
      @Simplykiebby 4 роки тому +32

      @@beingkylerjade1139 that’s good

    • @thatoneweirdkidthatyoudisl6723
      @thatoneweirdkidthatyoudisl6723 3 роки тому +11

      Actually that’s the opposite for me, but I think its just cuz I’m young

    • @MarquesTheProducer
      @MarquesTheProducer 3 роки тому +4

      The Braxtons came out as a group 2-4 Years after Toni. A lot of people might’ve heard of The Braxtons (aka Tamar) before Toni.

  • @24pekanpie
    @24pekanpie Рік тому +980

    We will NOT act as if Tamar isn’t talented but Toni paved the way! PERIODT‼️‼️

    • @zeeechanged5352
      @zeeechanged5352 Рік тому +66

      Her talent is not enough her personality kills it every time

    • @lizzypooh3536
      @lizzypooh3536 Рік тому

      Tamar garbage!

    • @lizzypooh3536
      @lizzypooh3536 Рік тому +19

      Just like her attitude!

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому +1

      Did he take your money in the past????

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому +10

      Me Evelyn paved the way. If it wasn’t for her being Joe Jackson they wouldn’t be singers

  • @eb9490
    @eb9490 5 років тому +899

    "Be tamar herbet and not tamar braxton" bringggggggggggggg on the shade miss trina braxton

    • @MariFenty21
      @MariFenty21 5 років тому +37

      E B Trina be 🗣R E A D I N G

    • @laflorbella6061
      @laflorbella6061 5 років тому +45

      Girl she gave me life

    • @RyanJCreations
      @RyanJCreations 4 роки тому +28

      Braxton is Tamars name just as much as it is Toni’s and the rest of the girls

    • @wavyblkqueen
      @wavyblkqueen 4 роки тому +12

      She's my favorite sister period !

    • @Eric407851
      @Eric407851 4 роки тому +62

      Ryan J but no one would know the name if it wasn’t for Toni

  • @ROBII88
    @ROBII88 2 роки тому +1293

    When Trina told Tamar she couldn’t read her if a book was in front of her I hollered!!!! Now that was the READ of all READS. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 That was Phaedra Parks worthy. Continue to RIP Traci. 🙏🏽🕊🙏🏽🕊

    • @foodie4138
      @foodie4138 2 роки тому +5

      I see what you did there. Lol! Okay! I’m with it and I agree 😂

    • @sweetcapricorn
      @sweetcapricorn 2 роки тому +3

      Ikr me too my face 😮😅😅😅😊

    • @obibraxton2232
      @obibraxton2232 2 роки тому +22

      Don’t mention Phaedra she rehearses some of her most iconic reads lol I would say the Trina read was Karen Huger or Kenya Moore worthy ! 😏

    • @ROBII88
      @ROBII88 2 роки тому +17

      @@obibraxton2232 Rehearsed or not Phaedra's reads are LEGENDARY. 😉

    • @MrsExquisite21
      @MrsExquisite21 2 роки тому +7

      @@ROBII88 they weren't

  • @cats3358
    @cats3358 4 роки тому +1184

    I love how Toni said she knows her merit and worth and won't argue with her baby sister about her contribution in the business. She said it so calmly too. Haha big sister moves!

    • @bloop8051
      @bloop8051 2 роки тому +29

      I’m glad she knows it

    • @foodie4138
      @foodie4138 2 роки тому +15

      Facts!!!!!! Classy mike drop!

    • @LEGENDPantherJennings
      @LEGENDPantherJennings 2 роки тому +1

      Ikr

    • @gabibabiii
      @gabibabiii 2 роки тому

      @@chelelinda6062 yk this was filmed a long time ago right

    • @rashawncampbell7619
      @rashawncampbell7619 2 роки тому +8

      She should've set her straight... the problem is it rarely happens

  • @layah28
    @layah28 5 років тому +943

    “WHERE’S THE STEAK AT???” 😂😂😂 Lmao I swear I love Traci 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Shannderiv-hy5qw
    @Shannderiv-hy5qw 9 місяців тому +91

    Hearing Toni say Traci is hoarse alot makes me think those were the early sign of Traci's cancer. 😢 R.I.P Traci

  • @Emo-but-cute
    @Emo-but-cute 5 років тому +571

    "TAMAR YOU COULDN'T READ IF A BOOK WAS IN FRONT OF YOU" 😂😂 Trina funny AF

    • @justinzephyrine9502
      @justinzephyrine9502 2 роки тому +20

      Ikr! I replayed that part over and over 🤣🤣🤣.....and then she said "spell "tell"" hahahaha

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому

      That was lame asf

  • @mother7278
    @mother7278 2 роки тому +522

    The fact that Tamar is always on reality tv and can see herself and not change her messed up ways is mind blowing

    • @DJMiaMoonBaby
      @DJMiaMoonBaby 2 роки тому +10

      She actually was lovely to watch on the latest season of VH1’s Surreal Life

    • @TheMrsilverscott
      @TheMrsilverscott 2 роки тому +23

      @@DJMiaMoonBaby She's no longer acting like a muppet and bopping her head around with crazy dramatic antics? 🤔

    • @CiMone01
      @CiMone01 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMrsilverscott not at all

    • @TheMrsilverscott
      @TheMrsilverscott Рік тому +1

      @@CiMone01 Maybe she really has changed then 😳

    • @ThatGirlSlimJim
      @ThatGirlSlimJim Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheMrsilverscott she has, she has evolved after all that has happened to the show and all I feel like they found inner peace and were more happy without the show

  • @returnofthemack8347
    @returnofthemack8347 4 роки тому +1118

    Trina is the only one who consistently checks Tamar while Evelyn sits there looking stupid

    • @destinybrown978
      @destinybrown978 3 роки тому +25

      I feel like Trina has something against Tamar because she the only one who snaps like it don’t even be that deep

    • @FrozenRemix1
      @FrozenRemix1 2 роки тому +198

      I used to think Traci
      Was the one. However, Traci let’s things build up and she explodes. Trina will get Tamar together immediately lol

    • @austinervin7554
      @austinervin7554 2 роки тому +95

      Lol did you have to say they mama be looking stupid 😂😂

    • @MissM3276
      @MissM3276 2 роки тому +39

      @@austinervin7554 💀💀💀 I was like hold up wait a minute 🤔😂😂wild

    • @KianaG1280
      @KianaG1280 2 роки тому +7

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @justprettycarly
    @justprettycarly 2 роки тому +319

    That “ be Tamar Herbert and not Tamar Braxton” was FELT!!!

    • @blackgarmentbag7482
      @blackgarmentbag7482 2 роки тому +28

      Yes, Tamar knows which is the household name….

    • @ThomasBrown-ig1wx
      @ThomasBrown-ig1wx 7 місяців тому +1

      That really wasn’t a read bc Braxton is Tamar name too it’s on her birth certificate and Toni doesn’t own the name Braxton

    • @justprettycarly
      @justprettycarly 7 місяців тому +3

      @@ThomasBrown-ig1wx it’s definitely a read because she got married and took her husband last name

    • @ThomasBrown-ig1wx
      @ThomasBrown-ig1wx 7 місяців тому

      @@justprettycarly sooo

    • @ThomasBrown-ig1wx
      @ThomasBrown-ig1wx 7 місяців тому +2

      @@justprettycarly her name was still Tamar Braxton Herbert

  • @katesoten1457
    @katesoten1457 4 роки тому +636

    Toni is so humble.

    • @shanayabuckery6391
      @shanayabuckery6391 3 роки тому +13

      Yeah she still she still got going on you go girl

    • @shanayabuckery6391
      @shanayabuckery6391 3 роки тому +6

      Why you snapping on toni for like I said yall sister at the end of the day come on tf now grow tf up Tamar

    • @missvida6251
      @missvida6251 3 роки тому +23

      And Tamar is so delusional. Po thang

    • @bloop8051
      @bloop8051 2 роки тому +2

      @@missvida6251 very

    • @personaldove
      @personaldove 2 роки тому +8

      How in the hell are Toni and Tamar SISTERS?????
      It boggles my mind.

  • @mickeyamoore8699
    @mickeyamoore8699 2 роки тому +171

    Loved how Trina looked at Toni and said ‘Toni yes you did!’ 🤣

  • @gloriacollins6608
    @gloriacollins6608 4 роки тому +587

    Toni’s face is giving me “I’m so over these people”😂😂😂

    • @imonlyhereforthelaughs
      @imonlyhereforthelaughs 3 роки тому +34

      toni lookin at them like “the have nots are bickering again” 😂

    • @bloop8051
      @bloop8051 2 роки тому +28

      She can’t stand them honestly 😂

    • @FrozenRemix1
      @FrozenRemix1 2 роки тому +38

      “Sometimes… I don’t like my family…”

    • @jaxcoss5790
      @jaxcoss5790 2 роки тому +1

      @@imonlyhereforthelaughs 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @terryscoffer
      @terryscoffer Рік тому +4

      Most of us can relate 🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅

  • @t.mooreyewknow799
    @t.mooreyewknow799 3 місяці тому +14

    I never knew Toni Braxton had sisters until the Braxton Family Values aired.

  • @Caress8989
    @Caress8989 2 роки тому +453

    I cannot believe Traci is gone. Still shocked. RIP.

    • @stacyr4768
      @stacyr4768 Рік тому +4

      Me too

    • @michellewilliams5206
      @michellewilliams5206 Рік тому +6

      I miss Traci so much

    • @smity1992
      @smity1992 Рік тому

      😢😢

    • @TheLo354
      @TheLo354 Рік тому +2

      Me too. So sad 😢

    • @ThatGirlSlimJim
      @ThatGirlSlimJim Рік тому +1

      I wonder wht they'd being doing now if she were here, they could've made another sister album r.i.p Traci u will be dearly missed fly high 🕊️

  • @collinmouton905
    @collinmouton905 5 років тому +478

    I just love Toni’s hair like this!!! It’s my favorite look of hers. 💯% classic!!

    • @pjpj3416
      @pjpj3416 3 роки тому +21

      Me too, I just love that signature short hairstyle.

    • @cstaylor1989
      @cstaylor1989 2 роки тому +3

      I wanna do it so bad but I’m not that brave 🥹

  • @Indeasepensable
    @Indeasepensable 2 роки тому +349

    I always hated how Tamar could never have a disagreement without a fight. She always had this thing where if anyone disagrees with her, then they must be against her.

    • @Evilene121162
      @Evilene121162 Рік тому +20

      Consider yourself BLESSED if you don’t personally know someone like that.

    • @Gemini382
      @Gemini382 Рік тому +17

      It’s called a Narcissist 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @kayrup3712
      @kayrup3712 Рік тому +3

      I know someone like that, a close relative, it's actually quite exhausting having a conversation with them, every conversation can turn into an argument.

    • @MsLmao000
      @MsLmao000 Рік тому

      They were jealous

    • @Juicingwjade
      @Juicingwjade 7 місяців тому +1

      Tamar is a narcissist. Point blank period

  • @tierratries4159
    @tierratries4159 5 років тому +750

    Nobody would’ve even been looking at Tamar if it wasn’t for Toni. So YES, Toni paved the way. Tamar saying that is a slap in the face to Toni smh.

    • @Emo-but-cute
      @Emo-but-cute 5 років тому +17

      Toni better than me, cuz I would've been done with Tamar ass that day. All the shit Toni has done for them...but when her ass got fired from The Real Toni was the 1st MF she called.

    • @dillonsmith6293
      @dillonsmith6293 4 роки тому +14

      I would have been lookin at Tamar Braxton 😬👀

    • @dillonsmith6293
      @dillonsmith6293 4 роки тому +5

      abundantly seeking she charted on her first album?!👀🤷🏾‍♂️‼️ oh ok SUCCESSFUL ......ANYWAYS 😬

    • @llbabygirl1528
      @llbabygirl1528 4 роки тому +16

      Yeah Toni the most famous one out of all of them

    • @kaymills696
      @kaymills696 4 роки тому +33

      Dillon Smith Toni’s debut album alone sold more than tamar’s entire career lmaoooo . Love & war wouldn’t have existed if there was no BFV, and there wouldn’t have been no BFV if there wasn’t Toni

  • @aleighc
    @aleighc 9 місяців тому +106

    Trina dropped that fake accent real quick when she was gathering Tamar😂😂

    • @stephaniewinston7465
      @stephaniewinston7465 4 місяці тому +8

      she did talk fast 😂😂😂so tamar could hear every word 😂😂😂😂 I can’t do tamar no more i can’t

    • @LeimertDreamer
      @LeimertDreamer 3 місяці тому +3

      Right! She even said “finna” 😂

    • @56348u
      @56348u 2 місяці тому

      That accent is the worst 😫.

  • @kreew1888
    @kreew1888 4 роки тому +590

    You can tell Tamar hurt Toni’s feelings when she said Toni didn’t help her

    • @joohsay
      @joohsay 2 роки тому +70

      When it is known that Toni has helped, Tamar MORE THAN all of her other sisters combined! It was never an option for Toni to help Trina and Towanda to be a duet after The Braxtons broke up.. Or hell, even solo artists, Trina wanted to sing. And can. Towanda passion is acting. And even Traci. Toni helped Tamar above the rest!

    • @stacyr4768
      @stacyr4768 Рік тому +2

      Understandable

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому +1

      All that staged

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому

      Bump Toni feelings she so selfish only thinks of herself

    • @AnAdorableWombat1
      @AnAdorableWombat1 9 місяців тому +4

      @@joohsayexactly! If it wasn’t for Toni, Tamar wouldn’t have ever lived the life of luxury with Vince .

  • @DrineThePoet
    @DrineThePoet Рік тому +121

    I'm glad Traci was able to release her album prior to her passing. Proud of her and she us so missed.

  • @samuelroseborough1866
    @samuelroseborough1866 5 років тому +698

    Toni braxton did paved the way for all of them. That woman sold over 60 million records toured all around the world and was one of the biggest singers in the 90s and Grammys yes tamar can sing like no other but toni did that and that's all facts

    • @dontelindsey5846
      @dontelindsey5846 2 роки тому +35

      3 years later I think it's 75 million records. She's amazing!

    • @foodie4138
      @foodie4138 2 роки тому +8

      @@dontelindsey5846But, THAT attitude won’t take her far.

    • @dontelindsey5846
      @dontelindsey5846 2 роки тому +5

      @@foodie4138 are you referring to Toni?

    • @foodie4138
      @foodie4138 2 роки тому +11

      @@dontelindsey5846 Hi. I’m saying that despite Tamar’s talent, having a bad attitude won’t get her far. Thanks 🙏

    • @dontelindsey5846
      @dontelindsey5846 2 роки тому +3

      @@foodie4138 oh okay. I agree 💯

  • @winette864
    @winette864 3 роки тому +650

    I’ve noticed Tamar has never been able to take Trina. She’s gotten under all her sisters skin except Trina, she’d try her but Trina would just stoop to her level and everyone knows Tamar don’t like the taste of her own medicine.

    • @ak-xp4hp
      @ak-xp4hp 2 роки тому +65

      That's what's people like Tamar need. A reflection of them thrown back at them.

    • @amour9027
      @amour9027 2 роки тому +70

      They are close in age. Trina dc about her being the baby. 😂

    • @purrinkittyz4737
      @purrinkittyz4737 2 роки тому +6

      She couldn’t take any of them…

    • @Hinokami777
      @Hinokami777 2 роки тому +5

      She obviously got under her skin because she made her lose her cool and get out of character. Are you blind ? She just handles it differently cause others don’t want to go back and forth all day except toni maybe. But Trina entertains the argument

    • @TheLovesnowangel
      @TheLovesnowangel 2 роки тому +17

      I believe it's because they're both the youngest so they were probably the closest growing up and Trina knows how Tamar operates.

  • @marywrenn5262
    @marywrenn5262 4 роки тому +752

    I started watching the show because of Toni Braxton. I didn't even know anything about her sisters other than she had sisters. Toni definitely taught her sisters the business. No one would have offered them a contract or a TV show without Toni. But we all know Tamar would never accept that. That's just how she is.

    • @marloscott1016
      @marloscott1016 2 роки тому +29

      I don’t hate to say this because if Tony wasn’t on the show I wouldn’t have watched the episodes that I did watch and if some people would be honest with themselves they feel the same way I do not everybody but some of them do

    • @londonpeach6223
      @londonpeach6223 2 роки тому +21

      I’d enjoy watching the show more without tamar

    • @kaysmith-wright9688
      @kaysmith-wright9688 2 роки тому +12

      Tamar's head strong and big headed she is now singing for where ever n with who ever n all the drama is following behind her. She is difficult to deal with

    • @Bloombaby99
      @Bloombaby99 2 роки тому

      @@marloscott1016 Agreed.

    • @BeeJaeV
      @BeeJaeV 2 роки тому +11

      The network definitely didn’t even want this show without Toni!

  • @zanaeterblanche5626
    @zanaeterblanche5626 2 роки тому +278

    Toni doesn't deserve to be disrespected like this

    • @blackgarmentbag7482
      @blackgarmentbag7482 2 роки тому +22

      Tamar telling Toni about the music business is laughable🤣

    • @southpaw9581
      @southpaw9581 Рік тому +4

      Exactly

    • @Tisha0312
      @Tisha0312 Рік тому +8

      Facts I don’t blame her for not wasting her energy Tamar tried it like always

  • @erika8767
    @erika8767 5 років тому +435

    Traci is a whole mood 😂😂😂
    yelling "Where's the steak at"

    • @Simplykiebby
      @Simplykiebby 4 роки тому +36

      Ain’t nothing worse than hearing people argue and you hungry 😂

    • @erika8767
      @erika8767 4 роки тому +9

      @@Simplykiebby 😆😆😆

    • @Bloombaby99
      @Bloombaby99 2 роки тому

      @@Simplykiebby 😂😂😂😂

    • @Bloombaby99
      @Bloombaby99 2 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Bloombaby99
      @Bloombaby99 2 роки тому +1

      4:33

  • @Ty0688
    @Ty0688 8 місяців тому +30

    Trina telling Toni… “NO TONI… NO TONI!” Like let me get little sis all the way together cause she tripping tripping. 😂

  • @desmoneketron3905
    @desmoneketron3905 5 років тому +481

    OK WHO LOVES TRINA HAIR🙌🏿

    • @Simplykiebby
      @Simplykiebby 4 роки тому +26

      Trina keep her hair laid

    • @vtara5394
      @vtara5394 4 роки тому +6

      Shes looking hard these day though ... she aged fast

    • @LEGENDPantherJennings
      @LEGENDPantherJennings 3 роки тому

      I do & I Love?Toni

    • @missvida6251
      @missvida6251 3 роки тому +2

      @@vtara5394 she’s an alcoholic that’s why.

    • @pinkrose4322
      @pinkrose4322 2 роки тому

      @@missvida6251 Oh, wow. That'll do it.

  • @LadyAmea
    @LadyAmea 2 роки тому +80

    Traci… rest in peace. She said,”Where’s my steak at!” While her sisters are arguing. Those are the things I love about her.

  • @bklynleo887
    @bklynleo887 5 років тому +484

    Tamar: Imma let her get her life and then I’m gonna read her.
    Trina: Tamar, you couldn’t read if a book was in front of you.
    GET HERRRRR!!!

    • @toythesexy
      @toythesexy 5 років тому +25

      That was funny!!!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣

    • @mansfield821
      @mansfield821 4 роки тому +9

      Yass!

    • @loveallshay1659
      @loveallshay1659 Рік тому

      That was green asf. Trina so smart til she dumb asf

  • @lemetrisengram3970
    @lemetrisengram3970 2 роки тому +315

    Hearing Toni mention Traci's hoarseness makes me wonder if she was experiencing symptoms back then. RIP Traci🕊️💕

    • @echance12
      @echance12 2 роки тому +51

      I was thinking the same thing smh

    • @southpaw9581
      @southpaw9581 Рік тому +35

      Me too cause I think she died from esophageal cancer RIP Traci 🕊

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому +7

      I think she was

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 Рік тому +11

      I know. I miss Tracy. She's one of the only celebrities who actually seemed genuine.

    • @essieboulton6738
      @essieboulton6738 Рік тому +4

      I noticed that also.

  • @Badgirlboog
    @Badgirlboog 3 роки тому +220

    “How dare you say Toni didn’t pave the way how dare you say that” towanda is MEEE 😂

  • @KhalidAli-ze8de
    @KhalidAli-ze8de 2 роки тому +82

    Traci asking where the steak at is ending me😂😂😂

  • @aaronwhite2699
    @aaronwhite2699 2 роки тому +175

    The moral of the story is that if it wasn’t for Toni we would have never seen or heard of Tamar let’s speak fact’s. Toni will forever be the biggest star of the Braxtons .

    • @TheSEXYARIES324
      @TheSEXYARIES324 Рік тому +1

      But Toni had to file bankruptcy multiple times. So I think Tamar was saying going independent is the best way. Because Toni people always takes, takes and takes. She didn't have a great deal obviously

    • @She17pj
      @She17pj Рік тому +8

      @@TheSEXYARIES324Toni filed for bankruptcy because of her health, Lupus hindered her and shows were cancelled she had to file for bankruptcy protection, that has NOTHING to do with Toni paving the way for her family‼️

    • @BigE2399
      @BigE2399 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheSEXYARIES324that’s interesting because I didn’t even think about that when they was talking about it so it does make sense but I think it’s also a lack of understanding cause everyone is always responding frfr.

    • @TheSEXYARIES324
      @TheSEXYARIES324 3 місяці тому

      @@She17pj no Toni went bankrupt twice I am sorry maybe three times. Because she had a bad deal. And Laface Records got over on her. Just like they did TLC

    • @TheSEXYARIES324
      @TheSEXYARIES324 3 місяці тому

      @@BigE2399 that part!!! People looking at the glitz and glam but Toni been out for years and only worth 10 million right now. Tamar 3 million. Don't you think Toni should've way more than 7 million more then Tamar. Her being out all these years. Toni don't make great decisions on contracts back then. I believe Tamar wanted to invest in the album so all the money can go to them instead of a label.

  • @endswithme555
    @endswithme555 Рік тому +125

    I loooooooovvvee when Trina gets activated bc she’s the most chill one. But when you press her at the right time she digs into Tamar and puts her in her place without missing a beat. Also she is fine as hell here

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 Рік тому +4

      RIP Tracy, man.

    • @koc1270
      @koc1270 Рік тому +3

      That’s the activated Sagittarius. We are calm until

    • @Daqueenb87220
      @Daqueenb87220 Рік тому

      Yesss, true Sagittarius energy! Don't come for us cause we gone return with a whole missile

  • @ziyahb1777
    @ziyahb1777 4 роки тому +182

    The fact that towanda kept talking like Tamar didn’t cut her off killed me😂

    • @MsMekia-dl3el
      @MsMekia-dl3el 4 роки тому +20

      😂😂😂😂. It was so rude the way Tamar bust in and interrupted!

    • @cats3358
      @cats3358 4 роки тому +6

      Lol... how do you spell ignore? T-o-w-a-n-d-a

    • @LatashaM89
      @LatashaM89 3 роки тому +10

      Yes! 😂😭😂😭

    • @anyib.3150
      @anyib.3150 3 роки тому +2

      But what did she say to Towanda during that moment? And what did Toni say to Tamar?

    • @rodc4889
      @rodc4889 Рік тому +2

      Sent me. Towanda is PETTY 😭😆

  • @TaraNicole_xo
    @TaraNicole_xo 9 місяців тому +26

    I can see Toni being a teacher with her beautiful self ❤

    • @TT.3123
      @TT.3123 4 місяці тому

      No one would be paying attention to learning lol 😍

  • @SistasXZatima
    @SistasXZatima 2 місяці тому +6

    0:41 😢 little did Toni know it was esophageal cancer going through her body with minimal signs

  • @faithwatkins7811
    @faithwatkins7811 2 роки тому +223

    Toni did pave the way for all of her sisters. The network didn't wanna have this show unless Toni was involved. Tamar and Vince and Toni are like the executive producers of the show so Tamar act like you can't tell her nothing. Fame has definitely got to her head. Bottom line Toni is about craft where Tamar was about the stardom about fame

  • @timeayoung8778
    @timeayoung8778 7 місяців тому +17

    Traci be sitting there not saying shit is hilarious af😂😂😂😂😂 #riptraci 😢

  • @rodeezus
    @rodeezus 7 місяців тому +17

    Toni always lost and “Don’t know what’s going on!” 😂😂😂😂

    • @Nancy-z6n8u
      @Nancy-z6n8u 4 місяці тому +1

      Girl Toni is the queen of tuning people out! 😂

  • @mswilliams4612
    @mswilliams4612 5 років тому +246

    Didn't know Toni had sisters until this show. And if Tamar was making it as an individual and not off Toni's work anybody who has a Tamar Braxton album that's before the BFV raise your hand... 👀👀 Crickets

    • @marloscott1016
      @marloscott1016 3 роки тому +10

      I don't have a Tamar album and I don't want one I hope that doesn't make me a bad person

    • @autumnskai6383
      @autumnskai6383 3 роки тому +20

      I remember the song "if u don't want to love me" didn't even know she was related to Toni.
      She just went by Tamar, what was probably an attempt to not ride Toni's coat-tail... But that was it. She couldn't make her own success individually. It took BVF and for that Tamar should be grateful.
      Can't believe she downplayed Toni's role in giving her a platform to be successful.

    • @badgyrl310
      @badgyrl310 Рік тому +2

      I knew she had sisters because I remember the Braxtons did an album in the 90s. Tamar also dropped a solo album in the early 2000s and it flopped. None of them blew up until BFV, which only happened because Toni agreed to do the show. Tamar talking this bs is disrespectful to Toni for the door she opened for her sisters.

    • @corrimahanible8165
      @corrimahanible8165 Рік тому +1

      I only knew Towanda as her sister..she was on a reality show because she was on probation for writing bad checks & stealing...she had to do it for classes as part of her probation...it was called starting over (in the 90's) I think

  • @higherresolve
    @higherresolve 4 місяці тому +11

    Toni telling Traci that she's hoarse a lot hits different now. 😢

  • @StraightnNarrow1
    @StraightnNarrow1 4 роки тому +136

    Toni paved the way. Point, blank and the period.

  • @teefoxworth
    @teefoxworth Рік тому +44

    Toni Braxton WON 7 (Seven) Grammy Awards!! Toni WON 9 Billboard Awards!! Toni WON 7 American Music Awards!! Toni was inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame!! Toni received the Legend Award!! Toni was honored with Soul Train Music Awards!! More accolades and awards have been given to Ms. Toni Braxton!! Toni is a gorgeous, graceful singer, songwriter, and actress besides TV personality. Toni has beyond 70 million records sold worldwide!! We love and miss gorgeous Traci 🌹

  • @marcusraysor4028
    @marcusraysor4028 5 років тому +128

    FYI: I HAVE REEEEEEEEAAAAALLLLLY BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SPECIFIC CLIP! THANKS SO MUCH FOR POSTING!
    Sidenote: it's mighty funny how Tamar wants to be an individual but tell Toni that she always wants to be selfish. She is definitely speaking out of both sides of her face on that for sure.

  • @clydekohl7692
    @clydekohl7692 4 місяці тому +13

    “You couldn’t read for books” TRINA IS LETHAL 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @amandabrown5555
      @amandabrown5555 4 місяці тому

      When she said “are we the same bitches you put out?” I gasped lol. Get her, Trina!!

    • @cassendrankosi699
      @cassendrankosi699 4 місяці тому

      I just love her😂❤

  • @shakeanasmith1858
    @shakeanasmith1858 4 роки тому +160

    Toni didn't even want to do the show, she begged Toni because she knew without toni, there'd be no show.

    • @BeeJaeV
      @BeeJaeV 3 роки тому +17

      DING DING DING DING!!

    • @TPxxx3
      @TPxxx3 2 роки тому +13

      They forget this part though

    • @LisaLisaCJ
      @LisaLisaCJ 2 роки тому +16

      If I was Toni I would have quit that show and let Tamar carry it then

  • @Nancy-z6n8u
    @Nancy-z6n8u 4 місяці тому +7

    Tony Braxton opened the door. Keep it real!

  • @derrickhobbs6463
    @derrickhobbs6463 4 роки тому +84

    Trina : no TONI NO TONI!!!
    (Continues to argue with Tamar ) 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @G514NonProfitMinistry
    @G514NonProfitMinistry Рік тому +19

    Tamar was married still using the Braxton last name but Toni didn’t pave the path for her 😅

  • @jesswithdakids5172
    @jesswithdakids5172 4 роки тому +102

    After watching these old clips I ❤️Trina! I didn’t realize how savage her clap backs were. 4 record deals and I can’t tell you nan song.

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому

      You know a lot of artists when through record deals so what ?? Even Toni first 2 record deals did get through

    • @jesswithdakids5172
      @jesswithdakids5172 Рік тому +2

      @@myraallen2951 and I can name Toni’s SONGS!

  • @LJLe
    @LJLe 2 роки тому +49

    Oh hell yes with Trina backing up Toni! She even shut Toni down when she trynna save the argument, go Trina!!!

  • @niecee
    @niecee 5 років тому +53

    2:11 ‘Use your words’ 🤣🤣🤣😂

    • @cats3358
      @cats3358 4 роки тому

      I had to rewind that so I could see it. Lol

  • @ew0711
    @ew0711 2 роки тому +44

    Tamar knew they were put out, because she gave the instructions. They don't move unless she tells them to. I love how Trina turns to Toni and says, "No Toni, no Toni, stop!!! 😂🤣🤭

  • @btownboiaverage4103
    @btownboiaverage4103 5 років тому +153

    You know what, all of the sisters are talented in there own way... but coming up in the 90s if you heard anything about a BRAXTON, 9 times out of 10 it was Toni Braxton. Yeah they are talented, but as of right now, not 1 has reached up to her level of success and may never will.

    • @MarquesTheProducer
      @MarquesTheProducer 3 роки тому +1

      Yet Tamar has four Grammy nominations, a BET award, 2-3 soul train awards, etc. She has great albums, she wrote almost all of her songs, she co-wrote for Toni, and she’s also mastered the art of being a vocalist. She’s still accomplished no matter if she isn’t as successful. Through all of this, she is bigger than Toni as of now 👀

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 3 роки тому +25

      @@MarquesTheProducer dude Toni have actually won Grammys not just been nominated 💀and won soul train awards and Toni is streamed more than Tamar on all platforms

    • @MarquesTheProducer
      @MarquesTheProducer 3 роки тому

      @@asmrlilvezzy6601 her most streamed songs are from the 90s. It’s not fair to compare them. as an artist, Tamar is bigger than Toni and her albums clearly did better on the charts than Toni. Grammy’s mean nothing. I only referenced to the nominee because y’all act like Tamar isn’t accomplished ... I don’t think she’ll ever reach Toni’s sales. but Toni can’t either 👀

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 3 роки тому +25

      @@MarquesTheProducer Toni already reached tamars sales and passed them even in modern do so call sales (streaming) literally only 400,000 people stream Tamar a month vs 3 million streaming Toni a month says a lot about who’s more popular in modern times streams are what counts today and Toni streams are way higher

    • @MarquesTheProducer
      @MarquesTheProducer 3 роки тому

      @@asmrlilvezzy6601 that’s not necessarily true. her Sex & Cigarettes did good only because of Long As I Live. she currently has a #1 single but the sales say otherwise (sadly). Tamar hasn’t released an album in three years. You can’t expect her to still have a lot of monthly listeners. Tamar is the most popular Braxton as of now. Just like how Toni had a # song, Tamar had a #2 song last year 👀 Toni’s Spell My Name isn’t doing good on the charts, neither in sales.

  • @thegospeloutlet2000
    @thegospeloutlet2000 2 роки тому +56

    Trina was in Mama E mode 4:18😂😭

    • @LeimertDreamer
      @LeimertDreamer 3 місяці тому

      She actually looked the most like Miss E out of all the children.

  • @desmoneketron3905
    @desmoneketron3905 5 років тому +111

    TAMAR WAS INDEPENDENT BECAUSE VINCE HAD A INDEPENDENT LABEL🤷🏾‍♂️ TRINA BE READING ALL THEIR ASSES TONI CONSIDER BABYFACE BECAUSE SHE KNOWS IT WILL SALE ❤️

    • @MariFenty21
      @MariFenty21 5 років тому +12

      DesMone Ketron she reading 📖 the novels full of truth!!!!

    • @catalystcoversations5644
      @catalystcoversations5644 5 років тому +17

      Period......Sales......no one is taking away Tamar work ethic but to say having Toni Braxton as your sister did not pave the way......I'm confused. Tamar Herbert still

    • @ebonywhitfield7428
      @ebonywhitfield7428 5 років тому +3

      And second Toni wanted to work with Babyface because they all would’ve gotten paid at this point when they made the theme song none of the got paid except Vincent and Tamar that’s why Tamar was soo pressed because all of them would’ve gotten a coin

  • @AnyTiers
    @AnyTiers 5 місяців тому +10

    Rest in Heaven ,Traci🩷

  • @charlyb9194
    @charlyb9194 5 років тому +73

    “No, Toni! no, Toni! NO!”

  • @playboyprincess4436
    @playboyprincess4436 4 місяці тому +5

    **@**4:33**.."WHERE'S MY STEAK AT!?". Man we love and miss you Traci 😂.. Always the comedic relief 😂.. RIP 🥀🕊️🙏🏼**

  • @avisrobinson1150
    @avisrobinson1150 Рік тому +5

    Looking back on this clips & videos. Traci did stay hoarse a lot. Lord I miss her. Continue to Rest in Paradise Beautiful Queen Traci. You are Deeply Missed 🕊️🤍🥲

  • @lisabrown7715
    @lisabrown7715 8 місяців тому +11

    Trina 😭😭😩 something about her I just love

  • @MrsKellyPierce
    @MrsKellyPierce 5 років тому +78

    Four of those records deals were because Toni got them for you lol
    And WE TV wanted Toni or no deal for the reality show.

    • @autumnskai6383
      @autumnskai6383 4 роки тому +14

      She should be embarrassed... How you get 4 record deals and have an amazing voice, yet still couldn't make it.
      The show definitely made it possible for her success, and the show came because of the Toni Braxton.

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 4 роки тому +3

      @@autumnskai6383 thts what i was thinking she basically happy she flopped four times

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 3 роки тому +4

      @@MarquesTheProducer janet Jackson was actually successful tho 😴Tamar only hit is love and war that’s dumb to compare her on a level of Janet and Tamar did not make bfv because the network ask for Toni at first and she agree don’t get on here lying tryna make Tamar sound like a super star cause she is not

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 3 роки тому +4

      @@MarquesTheProducer Tamar released an album back in the early 2000s by her self and it was a flop if Toni never agreed to that show the Braxton sisters would not be a household name so therefore Toni is responsible just like she was kind enough to let them be her back up singers

    • @asmrlilvezzy6601
      @asmrlilvezzy6601 3 роки тому +2

      @@MarquesTheProducer man what bye dude you sound stupid you just said Tamar doing better than Toni when Toni still getting #1 r&b songs and yea janet first two albums filooped then after that every last one of her albums went number 1 something Tamar can’t do even Janet Jackson last album hit number 1 and Tamar haven’t even sold at least 10 million have a seat all them songs you just named of hers nun of them hit the top 20 spot on billboard have a seat Tamar is not known worldwide like Toni Braxton

  • @jaket417
    @jaket417 9 місяців тому +14

    This is an example of why she is only selling out nightclubs and not arenas.

    • @Atlanta62
      @Atlanta62 3 місяці тому

      Agree… I would spend one penny to see her

  • @debrajames3865
    @debrajames3865 4 роки тому +57

    Tamar is extremely ungrateful and rude. She swears that she is the best vocalist and stands independent of Toni's career. Toni introduced her to her former husband/manager. Vince took her career to the next level.

    • @mikelenbody9691
      @mikelenbody9691 2 роки тому +3

      Toni herself has actually admitted that Tamar does have the best voice out of the family.

    • @CeliniacForLife
      @CeliniacForLife 2 роки тому +2

      Toni said Tamar has the best voice of the family.

    • @debrajames3865
      @debrajames3865 Рік тому

      @@mikelenbody9691 That's why she is Grammy nominated and not a Grammy winner like the living legend Toni Braxton.

    • @billhughes8726
      @billhughes8726 3 місяці тому

      And she still never came close to Toni's success; and she never will.

    • @debrajames3865
      @debrajames3865 3 місяці тому

      @billhughes8726 Thankfully she is finally realizing that Toni was instrumental in her current success story as a vocalist.

  • @yesimbrowsing
    @yesimbrowsing 8 місяців тому +3

    2024 & she still haven’t topped Toni baby,God bless plenty ppl with beautiful voices but without Toni & her ex husband Vincent D Herbert like she calls him,nobody would know Tamar Braxton period ❤❤❤❤

  • @warrior9923
    @warrior9923 4 роки тому +65

    TONI BRAXTON PAVED THE DAMN WAY........PERIOD!!!!
    TONI BRAXTON IS THE REASON WHY THE BRAXTON NAME IS FAMOUS......BECAUSE OF TONI THE BRAXTON......PERIOD!!!! 💯💯💯

  • @DiavionneMusic
    @DiavionneMusic 7 місяців тому +3

    toni telling tamar "use your words" got me cracking up

  • @Iwishyoudevinegr8ness
    @Iwishyoudevinegr8ness 4 місяці тому +7

    the unfortunate conclusion to timestamp 0:49 was the symptom of her killer disease "esophageal cancer" appearing ... RIP beloved you are truly missed !!!

    • @pinkgypsytees
      @pinkgypsytees 3 місяці тому +2

      You’re right! I wonder was she in any pain or discomfort then, but just ignored it…🥺💔🤔

  • @TamikaSaunders-iq3wf
    @TamikaSaunders-iq3wf 5 місяців тому +7

    Traci were is my steak at 😂😂😂😂😂 I love Traci ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @korsifenison
    @korsifenison 2 роки тому +47

    This is why we love Toni Braxton

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому

      Those sister sing back up for toni

    • @billhughes8726
      @billhughes8726 3 місяці тому

      Naw, we loved Toni for her immense talent. This is just dragging her down.

  • @NolithaMfihlo
    @NolithaMfihlo 4 роки тому +30

    im watching all these clips and trying to understand a part where WEtv has painted Tamar in a bad light .. because all i see is her being rude and negative most of the time lol .. because she keeps saying she was painted badly ,,, how?? because its all you boo

    • @criannyamorris5612
      @criannyamorris5612 4 роки тому +1

      Shut up

    • @kaymills696
      @kaymills696 4 роки тому +4

      The only way I could see what Tamar means(and im iffy on that bc that girl has a mouth on her lol)is that they only kept clips of her arguing, and not the ones of her family getting along . There were so many clips of them singing and joking, but they were deleted scenes. Reality tv loves drama and those fun happy scenes being “deleted” was deliberate, but Tamar doesn’t even hold herself accountable for the things we see she does on tv.

  • @LatashaM89
    @LatashaM89 3 роки тому +49

    “We did all get put out!” 😂😭😂😭 Towanda tripped me out with that one!

  • @KH-sn2sj
    @KH-sn2sj 2 місяці тому +2

    Trina is usually the chill one but when it time to get buck, she will do so

  • @angelJ5820
    @angelJ5820 7 місяців тому +7

    Traci face when Trina said Tamar couldn’t read if a book was in front of her 😭😭🫣🫣

  • @JLPerryTV
    @JLPerryTV Рік тому +6

    I love how Trina always shuts people down who try to divert from the issue. She did it to Dr Sheri and now Toni.

  • @Brwnskinn518
    @Brwnskinn518 3 роки тому +53

    I love when Trina gets mad… idk why….. but BALTIMORE COMES OUT WHEN SHES MAD❤️❤️❤️

    • @myraallen2951
      @myraallen2951 Рік тому

      I hope they not jealous

    • @lisabrown9749
      @lisabrown9749 9 місяців тому

      Of what 😂

    • @Brwnskinn518
      @Brwnskinn518 9 місяців тому +1

      @@myraallen2951 what is there to be jealous? Tamar just thought she better than them

  • @SpiritualPsychDecoder
    @SpiritualPsychDecoder 4 місяці тому +4

    Tamar was delusional and guilty for how she treated her sisters at her concert

  • @dawncemberwillis3766
    @dawncemberwillis3766 4 роки тому +75

    Without Toni, it would be Tamar WHO????

  • @bigtiff2012
    @bigtiff2012 4 місяці тому +5

    So glad Traci dream came true she always wanted to do an album

  • @jamespage6152
    @jamespage6152 Рік тому +6

    I’m sorry Tamar imitating Trina “20 years” is taking me out 😂😂😂

  • @taureanpov
    @taureanpov 2 роки тому +65

    Wait a minute! Tamar’s career was going nowhere until TONI BRAXTON did this show.

    • @paulettekeel6318
      @paulettekeel6318 Рік тому +2

      Tamar wasn’t singing solo until this show. She was singing Toni’s background for many of years for free. She decided that she didn’t want to do that anymore and wanted to start her own singing career.

    • @alexanderthegreat9218
      @alexanderthegreat9218 Рік тому +2

      @@paulettekeel6318Tamar had a solo Album back in 2000

  • @Bloombaby99
    @Bloombaby99 2 роки тому +5

    4:33😂😂😂😂Traci wasn't having it! She's like if I gotta sit here and listen to this, somebody needs to feed me.

  • @terrionesimpson
    @terrionesimpson 2 роки тому +5

    TRACI “where is the steak at?” God I love traci R.I.P Queen. You’re missed ❤️✨

  • @debrajames6316
    @debrajames6316 4 роки тому +43

    Let's connect the dots. Living legend Toni Braxton is the forever Star of the family and she introduced Tamar to her x husband Vince who was well connected in the music industry at the time of their marriage and her success!!. Facts.

  • @kayrup3712
    @kayrup3712 Рік тому +6

    Man, I miss Traci, RIP. Toni is an effortlessly beautiful woman. Her music is timeless

  • @thebratt_nyiah758
    @thebratt_nyiah758 3 роки тому +9

    I am so happy Trina finally stay up for her self and Toni and that what a little sister do

  • @samariahmarrero505
    @samariahmarrero505 3 місяці тому +2

    Um. Toni was signed to La Face records and she was paying for everything. She paid for her tour. She paid for the staff, the band, the lighting, the costumes for herself & her background singers- Toni went bankrupt after “the unbreak my heart”tour.

  • @marloscott1016
    @marloscott1016 2 роки тому +9

    I love you Toni Braxton PERIOD

  • @deebutterfly19
    @deebutterfly19 3 місяці тому +2

    One thing about Trina, she STAY ready 😭 She never once let Tamar punk her. EVER. Dare I say, she reads Tamar the best out of all of the sisters.

  • @HoneytheSiren
    @HoneytheSiren 3 роки тому +34

    Traci looks sooo beautiful in this scene✨

  • @billhughes8726
    @billhughes8726 3 місяці тому +2

    Without Toni, there would be NO Tamar. Her mouth gonna screw it up anyway.

  • @THG88
    @THG88 Рік тому +8

    Lord I got chills when Toni said to Traci that she is always hoarse.. It made me wonder if cancer was developing in her throat then and went undiagnosed. .😢