26:39 Vader eyes are sith yellow but at 27:04 if you pause it at the right time his eyes are blue, it’s a small detail but it really makes his death a lot more sad and meaningful with Obito allowing him to have one last peaceful moment with the person he loved before he dies 😢
Some people complain he should've been able to get out of that like Obiwan did with Kakashi and he was able to as you can see he was still seeing Obito in flashes my theory is that he willingly decided to stay in the dream as it was his most precious memory with his late wife, dude just wanted to believe even if it was just an illusion. Unlike Obiwan in the Kakashi fight was still young, he still had so much to do like teaching Anakin at the time.
Vader: "I sense your fear, your anger, and the power. I will be taking it" Obito: "That power will save this cursed world. You'll have to pray it from my cold, dead hands" Vader: "Then you will die"
@@villeayras8674 Dads won’t always be there to save their child. Also, no outside interference. We want DC fans to suffer for what TTG did to Twilight Sparkle.
It’s probably closer than you think. Also, her power is tied to Trigon, just like how Jean’s power is tied to the Phoenix Force (which is a separate entity that just so happens to be with her). The Phoenix Force is not Jean’s power. There has even been occasions where other people have it. If we can’t allow Trigon’s power because it’s outside interference, then we can’t allow the Phoenix Force’s power either.
@@multiverse_media2023 Unfortunetly (or Fortunetly for some). Phoenix at best has the potential of being stronger (not by much since both reach similar ranges)... if it weren't for the fact that Raven's entire power-set is specifically a hard counter towards Phoenix, so I wouldn't put my hopes in Phoenix "stomping".
@@roobyrne3075 they did use legends for scaling. The feat of Charal overpowering the sunstar didn't happen in cannon. Also Vader surviving a planet exploding. How did they wank Obito?
@@roobyrne3075 well from the character model, they used war arc Obito and war arc Obito is linked with the ten tails because he has the Rinnegan. Also not giving Obito the ten tails is kind of biased in favor of Vader don't you think? What about using film only Vader vs Junchuriki Obito, is that fair? I don't know if Vader has interdimensional range with the force. But how strong are the son and daughter?
@@roobyrne3075 it's really questionable if Anakin really scales from any of the Mortis gods. Yes death battle brouth it up as a notable feat for Vader but didn't go in details. Probably because it's inconsistent. Anakin passed that test when he submitted both son and daughter but shortly after the son easily pushed away Anakin Obi wan and Ashoka. And Obi wan clearly wasn't a match for either yet he defeated an older and more experienced Anakin in revenge of the sith.
in the context of tge death battle its still a feat. overwhelming son and daughter, their own words, is a lowball uni+ feat. the son and daughter existed on mortis outside of time because their presence alone would tear apart reality and destroy the timeline.
Called it because fun fact Obito let Kakashi stab him to break the seal Madara put on him...he just didn't count on Minato slicing his spine so knowing this and seeing how close Kakashi and Obi was it was kinda clear who's getting jumped
My favorite part about this battle is...well, no matter much damage he was taking, Vader just kept going. It took something as immense as the Infinite Tsukuyomi just to make him hold still.
Yeah: How Much can one be Nerfed. If you're Reading This and most likely angry, let me tell you something: I Read The Comics and The Books, and If that's a problem let me know.
_[AFTER THE BATTLE]:_ *Darth Vader:* Aw man, I can’t believe I lost in Death Battle for a 2nd time!! *Lex Luthor:* (sitting in a corner) You too huh? *Captain Marvel:* (also sitting in a corner) Join the club. *Hulk:* Hey guys, Hulk is back with the pizza! … oh, new member? *Batman:* Just be glad you didn’t have to take 3 L’s *Darth Vader:* But at least you still have a W in Death Battle. *Batman:* True. *Shadow:* As I’ve told the others here, maybe next time it’ll be third times the charm. Worked for me after all!
After all 4 Marvel match ups in the previous season I knew the next one was not far off. I thought it would have been the finale since they were hyping up Phoenix Force all season. We have been given scaling many times, but it is time to see a full analysis on the Phoenix Force. Just how powerful is it? Spoiler is is Outerversal. Now, i love Raven. More so than Jean herself normally (I love Dark Phoenix though. That is my second favorite arc Marvel has ever done (And both movie attempts failed to capture the emotional weight of it since they crammed both attempts into a single movie BOTH TIMES) Dark Phoenix is a story that deserves an amazing adaptation. I think Jean will win, and despite my Marvel preference i like Raven more, and while close i feel she just will come up slightly short. Hope we get a reference to how OP Jean was in MvC3
Thing is by the books Palpatine did actually come back...not in that same way of course. But he had a whole planet with clones of himself, so when he died he would shift over to a new body. But there was no Rey, none of this New Order stuff, and Luke if I remember right dealt with it himself personally.
That was over five years ago, though. Things very well could’ve changed in their assessment of and/or the material available for any of those characters.
In all fairness. It took the plot of the entire series to beat him. He would have destroyed him otherwise. Obviously I'm avoiding specifics for spoilers.
This was a good reaction I hoped Vader would win but I agree with the results also the three who forms the Original Akasuki are Nagano, Konami and Yakiho basically Ginger haired Naruto.
Here's a fun force fact: The reason there's only ever two proper sith is because the dark side actually gets weaker the more people use it, so to stay as strong as possible sith keep their numbers low and regularly backstab each other
@@Alterego912 From what I heard, it's the opposite. "The light side is like fire. The more it's spread, the brighter and stronger the flame. The dark side is like a cup of venom, the more cups it's spread into the less potent the poison.
@@AmateurAnimations65 Firstly: if that was true Palpatine would have been a thousand times stronger than Yoda. Secondly: the history of the Sith says they betrayed each other due to their creeds of always following their desires and seeking more power (not by gaining power through making less Sith, but by taking the secrets and knowledge from the temples of their fellows).
19:27 But Obito literally went to them and tricked them into wanting to make the Akatski in the first place lol. Not to mention Nagato literally treated Obito as his master when it was formed because he knew that guy was the reason all of this is happening Also yes Madara tricked him but non the less Obito choose of his own free will to make the Akatski. All Madara told him was to make world war 4 happen. Didn’t say how
For next Death Battle, I’m siding with Raven. I feel it’s honestly going to come down to comparing the Phoenix Force to Trigon. The Phoenix force is extremely powerful, but Trigon can and has defeated Darkseid in a fight. I don’t think the Phoneix force has ever battled or defeated anyone as powerful as Darkseid
Comparing Trigon to the Phoenix Force? That’s outside interference proving Raven can’t handle Jean without daddy’s help. You people can’t rely on Devils. They all burn in the ashes of the Phoenix, which literally NEVER dies, EVER.
@@multiverse_media2023 your missing the point: both Jean Grey and Raven both draw energy directly from an outside force: Phoenix Force and Trigon. It’s going to play a part in the battle
@@multiverse_media2023 I honestly like both characters: but I do believe Raven is going to win. Compare the scale of their competition, and what they’ve done consistently. Raven is a lot more durable, and has more than just one form she can assume. Phoenix can only go to Dark Phoenix, while Raven has two different forms she can assume
26:19. Yes vader can. He's done it before at the level of strength and stronger. There's evidence of that. Not only that but he would dominate it too and use it on Obito. Vader is too OP for Obito.
20:43 And lol? That doesn’t mean anything It’s off by less then 10 percent. That doesn’t give ANYONE The advantage and especially not enough to win a episode based on that alone. It’s basically the same damn thing lol So saying it’s one off doesn’t really matter when their just gonna say it’s basically the same dang thing and say their eqaul considering they both up scale from these feats by a lot Lmao
First Doctor Doom, now Obito? Anakin can't get a break in Death Battle. Still... Next DB: all the way with Raven (about to be 2-0). Knowing Phoenix, she'd not hold her Dark Phoenix form.
@@DoorSlammer_ But I do know how powerful he is. Which is why I know for a fact that Obito would literally obliterate him long before he even needed to utilize the 10 tails. LOL
Unfortunately this DB was BS. Genjutsu works by manipulating chakra, which characters outside of Naruto don't have. Plus they gave Obito power he had for all of 30 minutes and needed outside help to obtain. Giving him the 10 tails is like letting Goku fuse with Vegita. Also Vader has broken out of similar illusions, specifically ones that involve him being happy or Padma, which just makes even more angry.
You mean the "God Vader" that was literally just a Force vision Anakin underwent as Vader where he basically went through the events of Episode 3 but winning this time only to still lose everything? Yeah...no. It was a glorified "what if" scenario projected through the Force with no actual tangible feats. A full potential Sith Anakin had that capability, but the *reality* was that that's all it is: just potential, unfulfilled yet ironically ending in the same result for him - the loss of Padmé. Especially considering Luke ends up having a similar vision (with even his right hand mismatched in color from his spirit body similar to his father's from the limbs severed in the physical world) and literally seems the "God Vader" vision happening live despite Anakin going through it years prior - because it was a projection across the timeless Force, not a manifestation in reality. Vader got to experience what could have been and what little would have changed, and Luke saw it as well, but that is all; what Obito had he at least achieved physically and not it being some potential form or power.
@@Keith_Norman Yeah...within the Force simulation he created for himself. None of it was real or translatable to actual reality. If Vader is incapable of becoming "God Vader" outside of a glorified vision quest, it's a moot point for an actual fight. But sure, continue to completely miss the entire point of that sequence from the comics and take it as some gospel that Vader has somehow unlocked a Super Sith transformation. That he proceeds to never "use" or even see ever again afterwards. The potential Anakin had is unreal, way beyond Vader and even beyond full power Master Luke, and that's the key word: had. The moment Mustafar happened, the moment he was bound to the suit, really the moment he fell (as we saw in his vision, where even his fully formed Sith essence that could defeat the entire Council and Emperor was incapable of saving Padmé), he was capped, his potential cut off. And we see it now, say what you want about the new canon, in Ahsoka with him basically becoming the best version of himself and as skilled and powerful as he ever was or could be...but only able to achieve that balance, his potential as the Chosen One, with redemption brought on by Luke and his death. God Vader is a pipedream, a literal manifestation of cope from Anakin in thinking that if things were just a bit different, he could have taken everyone down, saved everything and everyone he loved. But it's all just a lie he had to come to terms with by seeing firsthand that nothing changed, even with the potential power and control he may/could have had.
1. Being the Bijuu Jinchuuiriki gave him all the advantages, like indefinite supply of Chakra, healing factor plus Kamui. Plus, the mercy finisher with the Infinite Tsukuyomi is beautiful. 2. Jean Grey's predicted victory via Pheonix Force may be the case, butRaven and her Soul Self are no joke either; having the durability equal to Dona Troy, who can endure moon busting attacks, and Raven's Dark Form may give her a chance, and god help us if Trigon shiws up because Raven can't keep him contained for long.
@@chimelxatrindad1516 I do remember that long ago, but Wiz and Boomstick mentions her feats in Teen Titans Classic once, they'll do it again. One can only imagine the intensity of the Raven and Jean Grey's fight would be too much for the former's mental state, leading to a fight with the Pheonix Force and Trigon. 😰
Honestly, it feels inconsistent. Kakashi lost to Obi wan, but Vader, superior to Obi wan, lost to Obito. Based on their old obi scaling, Vader should absolutely have won.
@@averagegamecritic Not really, and this isn't me being a Naruto fanboy. Obito won because of all the reasons listed at the end, the only thing vader had going for him was the combat experience. Outside of that Obito's abilities are just too varied and cracked, especially when you throw the Ten Tails and the amp it gives him into the mix.
@@AXSofHFDSsame with the truth seeking orb, the difference between obito and Vader is that Obito has the option to retreat and heal indefinitely. while Vader can heal himself with the force, he cannot simultaneously heal and fight on par with obito. Who can conjure up multiple clones that can spam Vader with ninjutsu that has great aoe to keep the pressure on Vader to defend. Eventually Vader is going to slip up and one slip up is enough for Obito to tag Vader with the truth seeking orb.
@@cyberwolfy37Not to mention, the implication being that somehow Force telekinesis can work when Kamui subconsciously activates. So unless Vader is literally performing telekinesis on a body or parts or organs in a separate dimension, technically he shouldn't even have been able to Force pull or push or choke Obito at all, much less to the extent he did in the animation.
Because it was a vision in the Force of "what could have been" for Anakin and not an actual tangible form/transformation? It's not even like an alternate timeline where Anakin wins vs Obi-Wan and then becomes so powerful that he just goes back to Coruscant and kills everyone, including Palps...he basically experiences a "catharsis" moment of acting out his believed regrets and strikes out essentially a revenge fantasy, only to still lose Padmé. Because that was his real regret and he played it out differently using the Force like a digital simulator, just to see himself losing Padmé anyway. "God Vader" is not based in actual reality. Luke literally shows up, years later from when Vader experienced the vision in the Force, and see Vader enacting his "God Vader" simulation...all of it is just a projection of wills in the timeless Force, not some new transformation where Vader unlocked his potential and shoved everyone in lockers. It would have been nice to have DB maybe mention it to put it to bed, I agree, but it wasn't an actual mode or form Vader can take that would matter in a fight.
This episode was excellent but also incorrect. they don’t give vader a bunch of the more obscure shit he has, and downplayed his sheer power considerably. If they had got the winner right he could have just crushed the moon but nope we aren’t that lucky and they got it wrong. Nobody’s perfect IG
@@banettebrochacho5636 So, he can pre-cog, crush the Moon, while simultaneously avoiding multiple one hit kills, all at the same time? I mean, if you're correct, it just makes Darth Vader sound like a kid wrote him.
@@SakuraAvalon darth vader is strong enough to withstand or counter almost anything obito can throw at him, and based on some of the comics even ripping out his soul wouldn’t work
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Hey Amber, if you look carefully when Obito deals the final blow, you'll see that Vader's eyes are blue again.
Also the entire final blow sequence is Obito's fighting game super move
Huh I never noticed
Technically they should’ve turned to the rinnegan
@@isai2083 weirdly enough they do turn into rinnesharingan at the start but then turn Into normal blue eyes
He redeemed Anakin faster than Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Luke.
26:39 Vader eyes are sith yellow but at 27:04 if you pause it at the right time his eyes are blue, it’s a small detail but it really makes his death a lot more sad and meaningful with Obito allowing him to have one last peaceful moment with the person he loved before he dies 😢
Reminds me of how in some of the comics, we see Vader often had dreams of Padme and kinda wanted to die😊
Yeah but the blue eyes aren’t because he turned back into the lightside
Some people complain he should've been able to get out of that like Obiwan did with Kakashi and he was able to as you can see he was still seeing Obito in flashes my theory is that he willingly decided to stay in the dream as it was his most precious memory with his late wife, dude just wanted to believe even if it was just an illusion. Unlike Obiwan in the Kakashi fight was still young, he still had so much to do like teaching Anakin at the time.
Vader: "I sense your fear, your anger, and the power. I will be taking it"
Obito: "That power will save this cursed world. You'll have to pray it from my cold, dead hands"
Vader: "Then you will die"
Obito: "You are liberated from hell. Find peace in the next life."
Vader: ...
Yeah I watched the video too
Obito: "Rest in peace, lord of darkness. Rin… I may find peace with you soon, one day."
@@peternguyen7530in the next life
@@starkiller169 I was close enough with the quote, but I just fixed it. Thank you.
Obito has reunited Anakin and Padme, but he unfortunately, he can’t reunite with Rin unless someone can kill him.
Trigon might show up.
@@villeayras8674
Dads won’t always be there to save their child. Also, no outside interference.
We want DC fans to suffer for what TTG did to Twilight Sparkle.
It’s probably closer than you think.
Also, her power is tied to Trigon, just like how Jean’s power is tied to the Phoenix Force (which is a separate entity that just so happens to be with her).
The Phoenix Force is not Jean’s power. There has even been occasions where other people have it.
If we can’t allow Trigon’s power because it’s outside interference, then we can’t allow the Phoenix Force’s power either.
@@multiverse_media2023it's literslly part of her arsenal
@@multiverse_media2023 Unfortunetly (or Fortunetly for some). Phoenix at best has the potential of being stronger (not by much since both reach similar ranges)... if it weren't for the fact that Raven's entire power-set is specifically a hard counter towards Phoenix, so I wouldn't put my hopes in Phoenix "stomping".
When I first saw this, I thought for sure Obito would be catching up to Kakashi in the next life
I think we all did lmao
Same
Obito is much stronger than kakashi tf is wrong with you?
Ditto
Nah he 100% should've lost
They nerfed Legends Vader hard in this episode
Obito won because he can fly. Meaning he had the highest ground. Unlimited high ground
😂
Unlimited power!!!
I never realized until I saw this death battle just how much sense it makes putting these two against each other.
I was worried after I saw the rundown of Obito. I was right to be worried as a Star Wars fan.
@@roobyrne3075lowbaled,,why? They did give him planetary scaling and light speed.
@@roobyrne3075 they did use legends for scaling. The feat of Charal overpowering the sunstar didn't happen in cannon. Also Vader surviving a planet exploding.
How did they wank Obito?
@@roobyrne3075 well from the character model, they used war arc Obito and war arc Obito is linked with the ten tails because he has the Rinnegan. Also not giving Obito the ten tails is kind of biased in favor of Vader don't you think? What about using film only Vader vs Junchuriki Obito, is that fair?
I don't know if Vader has interdimensional range with the force.
But how strong are the son and daughter?
@@roobyrne3075 it's really questionable if Anakin really scales from any of the Mortis gods. Yes death battle brouth it up as a notable feat for Vader but didn't go in details. Probably because it's inconsistent. Anakin passed that test when he submitted both son and daughter but shortly after the son easily pushed away Anakin Obi wan and Ashoka. And Obi wan clearly wasn't a match for either yet he defeated an older and more experienced Anakin in revenge of the sith.
in the context of tge death battle its still a feat. overwhelming son and daughter, their own words, is a lowball uni+ feat. the son and daughter existed on mortis outside of time because their presence alone would tear apart reality and destroy the timeline.
Called it because fun fact Obito let Kakashi stab him to break the seal Madara put on him...he just didn't count on Minato slicing his spine so knowing this and seeing how close Kakashi and Obi was it was kinda clear who's getting jumped
YES OBITO :3
They did not just put Konan scene at the end :(((
GO RAVEN :D
Well done, you two ^^
Darth Vader was actually "45" years old at the time of his death.
TBF Palpatine did sorta come back in Legends too
Wait, did he come back in the legends timeline?
@@boltthelunarian1405 Yeah, via cloning. A few times. Also made Luke his apprentice for a bit. Also was naked once
I was hoping Darth Vader would get a win
Edit currently his only win is in DBX
My favorite part about this battle is...well, no matter much damage he was taking, Vader just kept going. It took something as immense as the Infinite Tsukuyomi just to make him hold still.
2:56 There’s nothing else to say about this? The G1 Blog Says another wise
There’s no doubt I had a feeling vader would lose. Given the sith are quite powerful. But there’s always a limit.
Yeah: How Much can one be Nerfed.
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_[AFTER THE BATTLE]:_
*Darth Vader:* Aw man, I can’t believe I lost in Death Battle for a 2nd time!!
*Lex Luthor:* (sitting in a corner) You too huh?
*Captain Marvel:* (also sitting in a corner) Join the club.
*Hulk:* Hey guys, Hulk is back with the pizza! … oh, new member?
*Batman:* Just be glad you didn’t have to take 3 L’s
*Darth Vader:* But at least you still have a W in Death Battle.
*Batman:* True.
*Shadow:* As I’ve told the others here, maybe next time it’ll be third times the charm. Worked for me after all!
I don’t count Goku because him losing to the same opponent twice is kind of cheating
@@anonymouscontributor1520
Superman is a cheater. He’s worst than Homelander. Superman is a Devil from the Sky.
@@multiverse_media2023Found Lex's alt account lol
And thus Vader have several episodes of Filler being at Peace
After all 4 Marvel match ups in the previous season I knew the next one was not far off. I thought it would have been the finale since they were hyping up Phoenix Force all season. We have been given scaling many times, but it is time to see a full analysis on the Phoenix Force. Just how powerful is it? Spoiler is is Outerversal. Now, i love Raven. More so than Jean herself normally (I love Dark Phoenix though. That is my second favorite arc Marvel has ever done (And both movie attempts failed to capture the emotional weight of it since they crammed both attempts into a single movie BOTH TIMES) Dark Phoenix is a story that deserves an amazing adaptation.
I think Jean will win, and despite my Marvel preference i like Raven more, and while close i feel she just will come up slightly short. Hope we get a reference to how OP Jean was in MvC3
Thing is by the books Palpatine did actually come back...not in that same way of course. But he had a whole planet with clones of himself, so when he died he would shift over to a new body. But there was no Rey, none of this New Order stuff, and Luke if I remember right dealt with it himself personally.
The thing is, in Raven VS Twilight Sparkle they said Scarlet Witch or Jean Grey would've curbstomped Raven.
That was over five years ago, though. Things very well could’ve changed in their assessment of and/or the material available for any of those characters.
@@neonal18
Five years didn’t help Oliver Queen against Hawkeye. Not everything ages like milk, you scruffy looking nerfherder.
Yeah, both purple Tara Strong girls were heavily underestimated back then (though the results would VERY likely still be the same).
i know that Phoenix will play it X-Men Game Boy Color.
In all fairness. It took the plot of the entire series to beat him. He would have destroyed him otherwise. Obviously I'm avoiding specifics for spoilers.
Plus he needed to be convinced to stop
They couldn't beat him either
Naruto had to relate to him
Obito solos
Palpatine returned in the Legends continuity too. Read the comic Star Wars: Dark Empire.
Didja notice the Uchiha theme that DB has used for a while
It was a cool Battle. I will pick Raven to won
The animation is done by DevilArtemis and to be honest I was expecting Kermit the frog to show up
pretty brutal ending. left him with only reincarnation as a potential next life.
The 3 kids you were thinking of were Yahiko, Nagato and Konan. Where the heck did "Hayato" come from XD
JoJo's obviously
I honestly don't know. The names almost sound similar.
It was obviously a jojo's reference
@@brøken-gambit_bass I don't watch Jojo
@@DemonKingRegalia i highly recommend it. Its pretty good
Camp Canp finale is out
14:06 I DONT THINK YOU EDITED OR BEEPED IT OUT OH NO
genjutsu work on anyone
This was a nice one, so Obi-Wan vs Obito next?
By the way, does any of you know of Geetsly’s?
at least Vader got a proper battle UNLIKE THAT Death Sentence of a Fight known as Vader Vs Doom
They were both trying to channl that Thanos I'm inevitable energy.
This was a good reaction I hoped Vader would win but I agree with the results also the three who forms the Original Akasuki are Nagano, Konami and Yakiho basically Ginger haired Naruto.
Battle of the fallen heroes
Current tally:
Ant man vs Atom: 0 - 1
Dark Souls vs Skyrim: 1 - 2
Killua vs Misaka: 2 - 3
Stitch vs Rocket: 3 - 3
Darth Vader vs Obito Uchiha: 4 - 3.
Here's a fun force fact: The reason there's only ever two proper sith is because the dark side actually gets weaker the more people use it, so to stay as strong as possible sith keep their numbers low and regularly backstab each other
Would the light side would the same way?
That's not even remotely true.
@@marmyeater No? I heard that on a Star Wars channel, so if that's misinformation that's my bad for not fact checking
@@Alterego912 From what I heard, it's the opposite. "The light side is like fire. The more it's spread, the brighter and stronger the flame. The dark side is like a cup of venom, the more cups it's spread into the less potent the poison.
@@AmateurAnimations65 Firstly: if that was true Palpatine would have been a thousand times stronger than Yoda.
Secondly: the history of the Sith says they betrayed each other due to their creeds of always following their desires and seeking more power (not by gaining power through making less Sith, but by taking the secrets and knowledge from the temples of their fellows).
19:27 But Obito literally went to them and tricked them into wanting to make the Akatski in the first place lol. Not to mention Nagato literally treated Obito as his master when it was formed because he knew that guy was the reason all of this is happening
Also yes Madara tricked him but non the less Obito choose of his own free will to make the Akatski. All Madara told him was to make world war 4 happen. Didn’t say how
For next Death Battle, I’m siding with Raven. I feel it’s honestly going to come down to comparing the Phoenix Force to Trigon. The Phoenix force is extremely powerful, but Trigon can and has defeated Darkseid in a fight. I don’t think the Phoneix force has ever battled or defeated anyone as powerful as Darkseid
Comparing Trigon to the Phoenix Force? That’s outside interference proving Raven can’t handle Jean without daddy’s help.
You people can’t rely on Devils. They all burn in the ashes of the Phoenix, which literally NEVER dies, EVER.
@@multiverse_media2023 your missing the point: both Jean Grey and Raven both draw energy directly from an outside force: Phoenix Force and Trigon. It’s going to play a part in the battle
@@multiverse_media2023 I honestly like both characters: but I do believe Raven is going to win. Compare the scale of their competition, and what they’ve done consistently. Raven is a lot more durable, and has more than just one form she can assume. Phoenix can only go to Dark Phoenix, while Raven has two different forms she can assume
They're more than likely gonna have them both as comparable if anything, so more so just a powers thing and who has better control.
@@merlinthestrange8543 Agreed. That’s going to be a huge detail. I think Raven wins in that category as well. She has more control
Is it just me or does this death battle feel a bit too.....snappy, like its playing at 1,25×speed on default
26:19. Yes vader can. He's done it before at the level of strength and stronger. There's evidence of that. Not only that but he would dominate it too and use it on Obito. Vader is too OP for Obito.
20:43 And lol? That doesn’t mean anything
It’s off by less then 10 percent. That doesn’t give ANYONE The advantage and especially not enough to win a episode based on that alone. It’s basically the same damn thing lol
So saying it’s one off doesn’t really matter when their just gonna say it’s basically the same dang thing and say their eqaul considering they both up scale from these feats by a lot Lmao
First Doctor Doom, now Obito? Anakin can't get a break in Death Battle.
Still... Next DB: all the way with Raven (about to be 2-0). Knowing Phoenix, she'd not hold her Dark Phoenix form.
Last year on death battle winner Dr doom
RIP Vader... Nooooooo!
granted this fight was hard capping, it was still fun animation wise
It really wasn't. Obito would have ended Darth Vader's slow, clunky ass from the first moment he raised the saber.
@@DalionHeartTTV you really don't know how powerful darth vader is obito gets stomped
@@DoorSlammer_ But I do know how powerful he is. Which is why I know for a fact that Obito would literally obliterate him long before he even needed to utilize the 10 tails. LOL
Hello Amber
Loser eats a ghost pepper or Carolina Reaper. Not a chip, but the actual pepper. On video 😈
Carolina Reaper? That's a nasty little pepper, sure, but Jigsaw's WAY worse.
Unfortunately this DB was BS. Genjutsu works by manipulating chakra, which characters outside of Naruto don't have. Plus they gave Obito power he had for all of 30 minutes and needed outside help to obtain. Giving him the 10 tails is like letting Goku fuse with Vegita. Also Vader has broken out of similar illusions, specifically ones that involve him being happy or Padma, which just makes even more angry.
Forced to play dead space 1
not even a force choke.
I called it check my comment from last battle
Hahaha so at about 14 minutes y'all drop a spoiler for a recent movie and you say you'll bleep it out...yeeeeah it wasn't bleeped just sayin'
Vader CHOKED
And so Naruto series has 4Wins and 5 losses while Starwars has 3 wins 4 losses.
Naruto verse is just to strong they have gods also boruto
If you do the horror game punishment please do five nights at freddy's
People must have forgot about god form darth Vader he was easily able to split the fabric of time and space Vader should’ve got the dub
For sure plus he was a fighter pilot who can cross the Galaxy in seconds plus obito can't even use that form without prep
You mean the "God Vader" that was literally just a Force vision Anakin underwent as Vader where he basically went through the events of Episode 3 but winning this time only to still lose everything?
Yeah...no. It was a glorified "what if" scenario projected through the Force with no actual tangible feats. A full potential Sith Anakin had that capability, but the *reality* was that that's all it is: just potential, unfulfilled yet ironically ending in the same result for him - the loss of Padmé.
Especially considering Luke ends up having a similar vision (with even his right hand mismatched in color from his spirit body similar to his father's from the limbs severed in the physical world) and literally seems the "God Vader" vision happening live despite Anakin going through it years prior - because it was a projection across the timeless Force, not a manifestation in reality. Vader got to experience what could have been and what little would have changed, and Luke saw it as well, but that is all; what Obito had he at least achieved physically and not it being some potential form or power.
@@Mrryn you mean when he literally had absolute control of time and space
@@Keith_Norman Yeah...within the Force simulation he created for himself. None of it was real or translatable to actual reality.
If Vader is incapable of becoming "God Vader" outside of a glorified vision quest, it's a moot point for an actual fight. But sure, continue to completely miss the entire point of that sequence from the comics and take it as some gospel that Vader has somehow unlocked a Super Sith transformation. That he proceeds to never "use" or even see ever again afterwards.
The potential Anakin had is unreal, way beyond Vader and even beyond full power Master Luke, and that's the key word: had. The moment Mustafar happened, the moment he was bound to the suit, really the moment he fell (as we saw in his vision, where even his fully formed Sith essence that could defeat the entire Council and Emperor was incapable of saving Padmé), he was capped, his potential cut off. And we see it now, say what you want about the new canon, in Ahsoka with him basically becoming the best version of himself and as skilled and powerful as he ever was or could be...but only able to achieve that balance, his potential as the Chosen One, with redemption brought on by Luke and his death. God Vader is a pipedream, a literal manifestation of cope from Anakin in thinking that if things were just a bit different, he could have taken everyone down, saved everything and everyone he loved. But it's all just a lie he had to come to terms with by seeing firsthand that nothing changed, even with the potential power and control he may/could have had.
2 things
1. obito won ?.
2. Raven is outranked, Jean grey trained wit professor X
If hashirama pulled up who's he gunna fight?.
1. Being the Bijuu Jinchuuiriki gave him all the advantages, like indefinite supply of Chakra, healing factor plus Kamui. Plus, the mercy finisher with the Infinite Tsukuyomi is beautiful.
2. Jean Grey's predicted victory via Pheonix Force may be the case, butRaven and her Soul Self are no joke either; having the durability equal to Dona Troy, who can endure moon busting attacks, and Raven's Dark Form may give her a chance, and god help us if Trigon shiws up because Raven can't keep him contained for long.
@@peternguyen7530 slade messed with her mind.
@@chimelxatrindad1516 I do remember that long ago, but Wiz and Boomstick mentions her feats in Teen Titans Classic once, they'll do it again. One can only imagine the intensity of the Raven and Jean Grey's fight would be too much for the former's mental state, leading to a fight with the Pheonix Force and Trigon. 😰
@@peternguyen7530 space power vs demon power.
To be fair, when vader popped his kamui eye, that should've been it lol
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Honestly, it feels inconsistent. Kakashi lost to Obi wan, but Vader, superior to Obi wan, lost to Obito.
Based on their old obi scaling, Vader should absolutely have won.
Yeah they want to repay the Soyboy Naruto fans 😂
Obito solos
Kakashi doesn't have as much going on as Obito though. His Kamui can't make him phase through and he can't heal off wounds like Obito did.
@@ShiraFuyu2022 fair. Still seems fairly off
@@averagegamecritic Not really, and this isn't me being a Naruto fanboy. Obito won because of all the reasons listed at the end, the only thing vader had going for him was the combat experience. Outside of that Obito's abilities are just too varied and cracked, especially when you throw the Ten Tails and the amp it gives him into the mix.
good thing darth vader didnt just break obito's neck, stop his heart or force kill him with he force.
Even if vader did those things. Obito still has the hasirama cells so he could have just regenerated the damage
@@brøken-gambit_bass to be honest, the force cause deesenegrate on an atomic level, but whatever. obito got beat by wordjustu, so i guess.
And like they pointed out in the video, Obito could have just extracted Vader's soul... So?
@@AXSofHFDSsame with the truth seeking orb, the difference between obito and Vader is that Obito has the option to retreat and heal indefinitely. while Vader can heal himself with the force, he cannot simultaneously heal and fight on par with obito. Who can conjure up multiple clones that can spam Vader with ninjutsu that has great aoe to keep the pressure on Vader to defend. Eventually Vader is going to slip up and one slip up is enough for Obito to tag Vader with the truth seeking orb.
@@cyberwolfy37Not to mention, the implication being that somehow Force telekinesis can work when Kamui subconsciously activates. So unless Vader is literally performing telekinesis on a body or parts or organs in a separate dimension, technically he shouldn't even have been able to Force pull or push or choke Obito at all, much less to the extent he did in the animation.
I'm mad they did not bring up god vader
Because it was a vision in the Force of "what could have been" for Anakin and not an actual tangible form/transformation? It's not even like an alternate timeline where Anakin wins vs Obi-Wan and then becomes so powerful that he just goes back to Coruscant and kills everyone, including Palps...he basically experiences a "catharsis" moment of acting out his believed regrets and strikes out essentially a revenge fantasy, only to still lose Padmé. Because that was his real regret and he played it out differently using the Force like a digital simulator, just to see himself losing Padmé anyway.
"God Vader" is not based in actual reality. Luke literally shows up, years later from when Vader experienced the vision in the Force, and see Vader enacting his "God Vader" simulation...all of it is just a projection of wills in the timeless Force, not some new transformation where Vader unlocked his potential and shoved everyone in lockers. It would have been nice to have DB maybe mention it to put it to bed, I agree, but it wasn't an actual mode or form Vader can take that would matter in a fight.
This episode was excellent but also incorrect. they don’t give vader a bunch of the more obscure shit he has, and downplayed his sheer power considerably. If they had got the winner right he could have just crushed the moon but nope we aren’t that lucky and they got it wrong. Nobody’s perfect IG
Provided he wasn't turned to dust in the middle of crushing the Moon, from the multitude of Truth Seeking Orbs.
@@SakuraAvalon precog + strong enough to repel them
@@banettebrochacho5636 So, he can pre-cog, crush the Moon, while simultaneously avoiding multiple one hit kills, all at the same time?
I mean, if you're correct, it just makes Darth Vader sound like a kid wrote him.
@@SakuraAvalon darth vader is strong enough to withstand or counter almost anything obito can throw at him, and based on some of the comics even ripping out his soul wouldn’t work
@@banettebrochacho5636 Gawd, the extended lore really turns the original movies into a comedy.
Yeah, they got so much wrong with this battle
They had 1 f**kin Jon one
Palpatine would always gonna be come back no matter what.
whoever that guys is he sounds cringe like replace him or something
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Vader should have won
Not really... I love Vader, I really do, but he stood no chance here.
@@milantarbuk1039 na wrong