Mook is a psychopath ..thank goodness he got caught before he killed someone else. Good on his brother for doing the right thing . Great channel!! Love your videos!!
This story, Shelly-Lynne, is why partners and concerned family members should SHOULD be able to access information regarding any previous domestic violence or similar activity. It should be a worldwide human right. His own brother ffs.
Seems like Tenn. authorities need to step up their game. Just because someone pleads the 5th or moves back in with their mommy & daddy... doesn’t mean the case is over. Cases like these drive me crazy!
You do realize that hafe of these cases are in the 1980s right? Plus, you cant always keep the case going, if there is no leads, cases go cold. Its just how it works
@@eXoTicAllYY Well, yes, I’m not exactly stupid…but thanks for asking. So how long do you believe murder cases should be investigated?? If one of YOUR family members were done this way, would you be okay not knowing who did it? Would you be okay if the investigator said, “Hey! Sorry but he won’t admit to it.” And drop it? I’m guessing not. But DNA sure has come a long way since the 80’s & has been the proof prosecuting attorneys ALL over the world have been using to put murderers in prison…ESPECIALLY ON COLD CASES. I’ve never murdered anyone myself so I’m all for it! YaY!
@@pameversole5886 for starters. This is LIFE thank you very much. Do you really expect the authorities to keep searching for a missing person for the reast of there lives. Thats not how it works. Second. They have OTHER cases to do and other calls to attened to. how long should I believe a case to go on for? UNTILL THEY HAVE A LEAD OR A PERSON TO QUESTION. theres no point in searching for someone if theres no information or clues to there disappearance. This is how life gose. Sorry but poice have lives to. If a case gose cold, its gose cold.
@eXoTicAllYY this is a case of a missing child. There are actual decent people who work on the case past retirement and pass it on to the next generation of detectives. They dropped the ball with the mother who most likely killed her.
in the case of missing trenny lynn gibson from the smokey mountain park, they should test those beer cans & cigarette butts. sounds like someone was there waiting for a girl to abduct.
I have heard about Trenny Gibson disappearance for years now. I never heard before until now about a girl at the high school having her jewelry!! I knew about the guy having her comb though.
Theresa Gibsons story is so sad. Seems like a very solvable crime if people weren’t so secretive. And her family all died with a broken heart in the following years.
How is it that Mr. Gibson was the only adult present, or that the kids had no idea where they were headed? Did the parents know where their kids were going?
@@lydiapetra1211 Not back then in the 50s to 90s if you wanna to go you could go parent concent or not it wasn't till the 2000 when they started parents have to sign or go if below age Same with dress code
@janicesullivan8942, Trenny’s dad was not on the field trip. It was just the teacher. Things were very different in the 1970’s, they weren’t what we see today. Today permission slips are required, back then it was different. It’s definitely possible that the filed trip was kept secret from students, though, some of them may have known.
i rather assume these people should not be convicted at all with so less! no wonder so many innocent people came into prison only because of mob mentality is so prevalent!
If video footage shows Tyler parked at the convenience store dumpster, can we assume they checked the landfill for Shelley's body? It didn't mention anything.
That was clearly that little at those abusive parents home. I will never understand why investigators are lazy don't get to the bottom. The case could have been solved if the sw would took that beautiful innocent child out of their home. I think her mom was telling the truth about selling her daughter
I live in Union city TN. I believe her confession. What people don't realize is the Obion River is VERY muddy. You can throw a brick in the Obion & within minutes it is GONE. Mud & sediment cover things up in mere minutes. She is in the bottom of Obion River buried under mud. 😢😢😢😢
Shelly’s mother offering support to the newest victim is just wow, like honestly what a great person to push past your own feelings to support someone she barely knew
It always strikes me as so bizarre that people like Tyler are angry, when it's everyone else who should be angry at THEM! He was a perpetrator, not a victim.
7:41 “…his mom quickly bailed him out…” that’s why he is the way he is.. bcz his mom always bails him out & doesnt let him deal w/ the consequences of his actions🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Does each state in the United States have their own criminal laws? I’m asking because it seems to vary so greatly. I’m only guessing that it could have something to do also with the local law enforcement but, for example, the last case, where there is a history of controlling behaviour, proposed separation etc and then the spouse is found dead….I’ve watched other cases where they have absolutely no evidence and the husband has an alibi and yet he still is charged with murder. I’ve seen cases where they make up a story blaming someone for a death and then 10 years later DNA sets that person free. I’m just saying that it’s strange that they didn’t even seem to look at her husband or not enough to be interesting for inclusion here. They look at the spouse for a reason and that’s because it usually is them directly or indirectly. I don’t know these folks but I feel badly that they are not having time with their daughter’s children, their grandchildren. That’s just selfish and mean…..controlling even. So sad, just so very sad 😞
there are state laws & federal laws. & 2 different courts also, state level or federal. state laws can vary from state to state but a lot are very similar.
Yes and not only that, cities and counties in those states also have their own criminal laws . A murder might get you life in California, whereas in TN you might get life for possession of weed. The judicial system in this country is in need of a major overhaul.
Ugh I hate this if there's no body they don't do anything. If there's enough evidence to take it to a grand jury then they should be endited if the prosecution feels the case is strong enough especially when dealing with children imo
I respectfully disagree. If a suspect is brought to trial, it's extremely likely that the jury will not convict with no body. If I'm on a jury, unless they have a picture of the defendant holding a knife over the victim's dead body, I'm not convicting with no body. There have been too many cases where someone was wrongfully suspected, or even convicted, when someone disappeared, and it turned out they were alive. Don't get me wrong, I agree that Tyler is blatantly guilty, but it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. If they bring him to trial and he's found not guilty, then later evidence turns up, he can't be tried again. It's not worth the risk.
At least this is starting to change. They convicted Vince Doan here in Ohio for killing his girlfriend Carrie Culberson back in 1996 (I think his trial was a few years later). That case was a cluster from the get go but at least they were able to convict him. To my knowledge, they still have not found her body.
What I think is so sad about some of these cases is that, somebody, somewhere has seen and/or heard something that could help cold cases. They are too afraid to speak up, don’t want to get involved, they think what they know is so small it doesn’t matter. I don’t know what else. But it is a damn shame to think that somebody could have a clue that could help. I hope there can be resolution and sooner rather than later. ❤️💜💚
A fugue state for John is extremely unlikely. Long term amnesia requires major disruptions in brain function. Fugue state is a temporary psychosis that lasts for hours at most and, again, is usually caused by trauma. Worst. Psychiatrist. Ever
you might be right, but other forms of mental illness can cause psychosis, and that can lead to confusion, not knowing who he is, wondering, and a complete break with reality
@@redred222 those are very extreme cases of psychosis with a very major traumatic event involved. That level is not likely (while probable) to happen just based on the stress he was under (as described) and no sleep with no history of mental illness. I wouldn’t argue with a temporary case but, long term is extremely unlikely. IMHO I think somebody wanted his cut of the money or they thought he’d quagmire the deal with SEC investigators.
That man was John. I don't understand why investigators say they are not sure but that person resembles missing person. They will question families but the investigators still are unsure. Why didn't they investigate the homeless shelters and question truck drivers? They would have found him and asked his family for dna
Thank you for letting us know about these cold cases. I live in Johnson City Tn not far from Gatlinburg/Dollywood (In the Smoky mountains) recently a UA-camr Adventures with Nug solved a cold case out of Sparta Tennessee 2 teenagers ages 18 & 17 went missing in 2001 he found their car in a body of water her dad had fixhed over in the many years the 2 had been missing it was solved just last month So glad their family has closure.
Just because the area was searched, doesn’t mean she wasn’t there. It is very difficult to find a missing person in a wooded area. People can be found years later in areas that were already well searched.
I will NEVER go hiking! Too many bad things happen no matter how many people are around! All of these cases are tragic but the girl disappearing during a high school field trip n ppl having her things is very disturbing! How could someone who tried to break in your house, threaten you then basically get a slap on the wrist be allowed to attend the same school with you again? That would be petrifying!
I hope that teacher was fired! Who takes a class on a field trip & doesn't tell anyone where they are going? Didn't parents have to sign permission slips?
I live in TN and I've heard these cases all my life. Good job on the video Tyler killed Shelly, Marlena's mother killed her and Trenny I have noooooo idea 🥲 I've been in that location she was hiking many times
The 60s to 80s was a very interesting time in the Smoky mountains I'm sure y'all know. I believe she was snatched by a predator a man and he took her away to his car thru the woods. Or hid her deep in the woods there. If it was a student in my opinion they wouldn't have been able to hide it she would have been found, there just wasn't enough time to dispose correctly. In my opinion
After the murder of a spouse, it always strikes me as extremely suspicious when the surviving parent (particularly when they are a person of interest or abusive/controlling) immediately cuts off all contact with the grandparents and/or the extended family of the victim. It's a very callous and cruel act...like pouring salt in an open wound. To me, it speaks to their temperament, lack of character and their propensity for inflicting pain needlessly.
Yes, there is lots of circumstantial evidence against Tyler, but without knowing the details, it’s possible authorities would hold off of charging him to prevent the possibility of an acquittal.
Marlena Childress's dad Kevin was a good man. His life was destroyed after the disappearance of his daughter. He passed away not knowing what happened to his baby girl.
The river you said that Marlena was possibly thrown in, is pronounced "OH-BY-IN" Rver. This happened a road over from my grandmother's house. 2 years before I was born. But every time I pass that house, I think about it. I do wish someone would give the community some closure. I am not sure about any local family still being if. But, it's crazy they still have never figured it out.
I’m curious if in Tremmy’s case if the police found good enough reasons to do DNA on those cigarettes butts and beer can found where she left the trail, it would be interesting to see who they belonged too, I think it was a classmate who got her attention and called her over ?
How far could a student got her off trail and back to the bus when they were heading back. She would have been found if that was the case. I have been on the trail. Whoever snatched her took her far away
Back in that time there was predators lurking the park that would literally snatch people off the trails in the Smoky mountains. Dennis Martin, Trenny Gibson, Polly Melton. All disappeared in the smokies and apparently snatched. All within 12 years or so. Others have gone missing in there as well.
We live in a sick, cruel world where abusive bitches and assholes are overly fertile, populating the world with children who will suffer and propagate the same problems down generational lines. Or such a couple will divorce and the custodial spouse will remarry, to someone who abuses the children. THIS, while truly loving, kind, warm, generous people who desperately want children end up infertile, by some sadistic twist of the universe, and suffer in different undeserved ways in the name of bearing or acquiring children. Then many times, their desire remains unfulfilled or they adopt a child whose lineal psychological problems or outright sociopathy are not divulged, leading to pain, heartache or tragedy. This has happened in my extended family and I've seen years of it firsthand. F*** it all.
The second case. The social worker goes to a house find a girl that name herself like a missing girl. She doesn't call the police inmediatly but return herself the next day. The familx is gone. They find the family in another state, the little girl is not with them amymore. That is? Thanks for your collaboration? Keep living your life? This is ridiculous bad police work.
Im from union city and i havent known a single person that questioned that marlenas mother absolutely killed her except for very few people. Most for sure didnt question it once she tried killing her son. I was 2 when she disappeared and it real scared every parent around the area at the time.
Murfreesboro native over here! This case has haunted our town ever since she went missing. Her missing pictures are still in the walls of our local gym in the locker rooms 😭
I have always thought Trenny's classmates could have done something to her and kept trophies from the crime. But i don't see how a bunch of kids could have made it so she was never found or outsmarted investigators ... unless the investigation wasn't thorough.
That's ridiculous, making judgements based on someone's skin color. Thats whats sad. Ask God to remove the hatred you have for ppl from your heart. It's so ignorant to make judgements about others using the color of their skin. Extremely ignorant
I love your channel🤩 New sub here 🙋🏼♀️🤗 Could you cover more missing persons cases specifically where the person disappeared/died under suspicious circumstances?! Or just unsolved missing persons cases that a baffling?! Maybe some from Arkansas, Mississippi &!Missouri?! I’ve not had the chance to look thru all your videos yet…. just thought I would throw a few suggestions in the comments🙃 great content, thanks!
Isn’t that crazy? I can remember when it was considered a very safe area. I haven’t lived in Shelby County for over 20 years. Are there ANY safe areas anymore?
I have NO doubt that Mook's parents assisted their "golden boy" in disposing of the body. Hopefully, the brother has a second crisis of conscience and will be compelled to reveal information on where to locate the remains. We true crime aficionados know well how tempers flare and emotions run wild with custody issues and in-laws. Mook seems to belong to a clan that protect their own, at all costs. Tyler appears to have been the highly favored son. That seems to be the ONLY reason I can determine to explain his brother's extraordinary decision to take the honorable step of testifying against Tyler. In a family that closes ranks to keep criminal acts secret, that's unheard of! I can only imagine the disdain he has endured by his "family." They probably now refer to him as"Fredo."
I was born in 1955 and through out my school year's including the early 60s parents were made aware of any school trips.Never any surprise trips because we would have to bring a SACK LUNCH. You could bet that our teacher made us STAY TOGETHER and were with us the WHOLE TIME and NEVER TOOK THEIR EYES OFF THEIR STUDENTS!! The only surprise was and it wasn't a surprise,that if you gave your teachers any problem that when you got home, YOU GOT THAT ASS BEAT and more than likely you got a ASS WHIPPING by your teacher before you LEFT SCHOOL. This teacher should have been FIRED and CHARGED WITH NEGLIGENCE.
I remember the Marlena Childress case so vividly. Union City is 15 miles from me, so I grew up frequenting the area. Til this day, I can't drive over that area of the Obion River without thinking about her.
Johnny Bailey would have no problem with his ex-Pam being around his kids?!? She's got one child permanently missing, and another one she assaulted with a knife (conveniently during a blackout).... Not a decision I would be comfortable with.
Why in God's name would Shelly......even be with someone like that in the first place. She was gorgeous. Having friends in that area, I remember them talking of her when this happened.
Sounds like the disappearance of Trinny could have involved foul play but there are strange things happen to people ESPECIALLY in National Parks and in particular the Smokey Mountains! Never go hiking alone in any of these parks, hike in groups and don’t stray even a few feet away from fellow hikers!
@@SouthernGirlCrimeStories Miss Hippie, a Lady who filled my University Days with love enough to last many lifetimes. My late wife, Lucy Jue, from Lyon, gateway to Clarksville. Are you a Delta Lady, or a Hill Honey, or a Gulf Girl?
Those cigarettes and half empty beer can found just off the trail where "Trenny" was last seen (if the police still have them) contain someone's DNA. (Hint, hint)
Terrible case of Trenny...she could have walked off the path...or her vanilla faced walking partner could have killed her...OR the chocolate faced guy who was clearly heard stating the he would kill her was the killer...I'm thinking chocolate face.
Thank you for true crime in Tennessee you're the best I pray for justice for the family they more than deserve it. User or not I commend you for helping the regular ppl I 🙏 pray for justice for them all and feel and love each and every one they deserve justice they where just babies with no knowledge😮 of what's to come god has a place in his kingdom for those who hurt one another I pray for justice for the family and I want to say you left too soon. 😢 you are a beautiful woman and god willing he will give your families comfort in christ. Because I know you are dancing with the angels sweet girl The piece of garbage that Hurt such a sweet gift from God will burn. I'm sorry to your love ones who.are grieving but honey touch them and let them know you are In heaven and it's more beautiful than anything you have ever seen. I'll meet you in heaven my sister I'm sorry for your tribulations on earth but your safe and loved now by your family. Friends and god in heaven. I hope this gives your family peace.
I am convinced that Trenny Lynn Gibson was one of serial killer Gary Hilton's first victims. I looked into that case for several years and the way that Trenny was taken near other people, and then taken around the lookout on top of Clingman's Dome, then to a place near Indian Gap where they waited for hours before leaving is amost identical to the way he took Meredith Emerson are nearly identical.
it's o-bi-inn not o-b-ein. Thats crazy we used to jump off the old o-b-ein/trimble bridge into the o-b-ein river. Trust me when im sure plenty of bodies have gone missing in that river just to get dumped into the Mississippi river never to be seen or heard of again 👀
So sad…I feel sure Shelly was put into that trash can by Tyler, which was eventually dumped into a landfill site. Sadly after all this time, and amount of rubbish tipped on top, there is now little if any chance of finding her body now. Her poor little girl didn’t deserve to lose her mother like that.🌹💕
Ik this is gonna sound weird but I think I went to elementary school kindergarten Marlena it always stuck out to me bc she came in after school started n abruptly left there was a few stories going around about her being in a bad home situation to foster care n other things idek how I rem tht but I do it always felt strange to me the situation w her. She ate glue she had a lot behavioral issues just a lot goin on there but I swear I think tht is her. Even as a child I was perceptive to things which has only intensified maybe that’s why she stood out to me 🤔
Parents who keep their children from other family for reasons beyond safety are terrible parents and very selfish. I dislike my ex in laws very much, but they love my children and are good to them so they have all the access to them they want because my love for my kids is bigger than my dislike for my ex and his parents.
Just what in the Hell is wrong with these ppl..although these crimes are still unsolved, I can imagine the million more horrific tragedies thems woods are still hiding!
Her and John both used drugs. They both r crazy . Kevin her dad went to his death not knowing what happen to his daughter. I can remember the street and the house were they lived. We lived down the road from her
All of these were compelling stories. It seems very likely that Shelley was in her burning car, and also most likely was killed by Monk. I think he had already killed her, when he brought their daughter in from the car. In John Cheek's case, one's got to figure that whatever he did, he wasn't in his right mind. It seems highy unlikely that he is still alive, sadly.
I commend Tyler's brother!! I'm so proud of him for standing up to his family and that spoiled POS Tyler! Thanks for another great upload 😊
Literally!
Yeah he was solid
It was common decency on his part, which doesn't run in THAT family
This mother wasn't doing her son a favor by upholding for his wrong doing imo
He probably helped cover his his first murder tho
Mook is a psychopath ..thank goodness he got caught before he killed someone else. Good on his brother for doing the right thing . Great channel!! Love your videos!!
He is the definition of sociopath
Thank goodness the other Mook son is a decent human being. Hopefully the family stands behind the brother and isn’t assholes about it.
You find out your new boyfriend is a suspected wife killer, and you stay??
exactly
Right? Uhhh not me
Sadly they don't think it could happen to them
Like trumps immigrant wife putting up with donnies crimes, porn stars and corruption.
This story, Shelly-Lynne, is why partners and concerned family members should SHOULD be able to access information regarding any previous domestic violence or similar activity. It should be a worldwide human right.
His own brother ffs.
Absolutely, there should be a registry and financial penalties
They were both yankee carpet baggers, who cares. Should have stayed up north
Oh Tyler 100 percent killed his ex!! And can bet he took his precious boat out and threw her body in the sea, seems like his mo!
Sadly yes.....I agree with you!
To obvious yup
You would think the police would do forensic testing on the home she disappeared in.
Tyler is very respectful.
Seems like Tenn. authorities need to step up their game. Just because someone pleads the 5th or moves back in with their mommy & daddy... doesn’t mean the case is over. Cases like these drive me crazy!
You do realize that hafe of these cases are in the 1980s right? Plus, you cant always keep the case going, if there is no leads, cases go cold. Its just how it works
Especially in the extremely vast smoky mountains.
@@eXoTicAllYY Well, yes, I’m not exactly stupid…but thanks for asking.
So how long do you believe murder cases should be investigated?? If one of YOUR family members were done this way, would you be okay not knowing who did it? Would you be okay if the investigator said, “Hey! Sorry but he won’t admit to it.”
And drop it? I’m guessing not. But DNA sure has come a long way since the 80’s & has been the proof prosecuting attorneys ALL over the world have been using to put murderers in prison…ESPECIALLY ON COLD CASES. I’ve never murdered anyone myself so I’m all for it! YaY!
@@pameversole5886 for starters. This is LIFE thank you very much. Do you really expect the authorities to keep searching for a missing person for the reast of there lives. Thats not how it works. Second. They have OTHER cases to do and other calls to attened to. how long should I believe a case to go on for? UNTILL THEY HAVE A LEAD OR A PERSON TO QUESTION. theres no point in searching for someone if theres no information or clues to there disappearance. This is how life gose. Sorry but poice have lives to. If a case gose cold, its gose cold.
@eXoTicAllYY this is a case of a missing child. There are actual decent people who work on the case past retirement and pass it on to the next generation of detectives. They dropped the ball with the mother who most likely killed her.
An episode of The First 48 included a suspect accidentally dialing their phone and discussing the crime with the passenger in their car. Busted.
Poetic justice to accidentally “pocket” dial 911.
in the case of missing trenny lynn gibson from the smokey mountain park, they should test those beer cans & cigarette butts. sounds like someone was there waiting for a girl to abduct.
I think it was her walking partner
I have heard about Trenny Gibson disappearance for years now. I never heard before until now about a girl at the high school having her jewelry!! I knew about the guy having her comb though.
Supposedly her brother smoked that exact brand of cigarettes and drank that exact brand of beer.
Tyler Creep Mook
Right!
Big ups for Tyler's brother taking the stand against him!
Theresa Gibsons story is so sad. Seems like a very solvable crime if people weren’t so secretive. And her family all died with a broken heart in the following years.
How is it that Mr. Gibson was the only adult present, or that the kids had no idea where they were headed? Did the parents know where their kids were going?
@@janicesullivan8942 aren't the parents supposed to sign off on field trips? Weren't they told to dress for hiking?
@@lydiapetra1211 Not back then in the 50s to 90s if you wanna to go you could go parent concent or not it wasn't till the 2000 when they started parents have to sign or go if below age Same with dress code
@janicesullivan8942, Trenny’s dad was not on the field trip. It was just the teacher. Things were very different in the 1970’s, they weren’t what we see today. Today permission slips are required, back then it was different. It’s definitely possible that the filed trip was kept secret from students, though, some of them may have known.
That Tyler Mook story!! You google a person and find out he is a suspect in a murder and go out on a boat with him?! Really?! Smdh 🤦🏽♀️
wtf......so many circumstantial evidence against Tyler....people have been convicted for much less .i don't get it
i rather assume these people should not be convicted at all with so less! no wonder so many innocent people came into prison only because of mob mentality is so prevalent!
If video footage shows Tyler parked at the convenience store dumpster, can we assume they checked the landfill for Shelley's body? It didn't mention anything.
Doubt it or it would have been mentioned . sadly 😢
I was wondering the same thing
I live there and they did nothing
That poor darling Marlena. Thanks, SG.
That was clearly that little at those abusive parents home. I will never understand why investigators are lazy don't get to the bottom. The case could have been solved if the sw would took that beautiful innocent child out of their home. I think her mom was telling the truth about selling her daughter
I live in Union city TN. I believe her confession. What people don't realize is the Obion River is VERY muddy. You can throw a brick in the Obion & within minutes it is GONE. Mud & sediment cover things up in mere minutes. She is in the bottom of Obion River buried under mud. 😢😢😢😢
Shelly’s mother offering support to the newest victim is just wow, like honestly what a great person to push past your own feelings to support someone she barely knew
Another great video. Thanks for the work you put into these uploads ♥️
Something is very wrong with Marlena's mother.
She is guilty & her confession was true. I live in UC & have for 55 years. That baby is in the bottom of the River buried in the mud & sediment. 😢😢😢😢
It is so nice of you to take time to share these cold cases! 💗💗
It always strikes me as so bizarre that people like Tyler are angry, when it's everyone else who should be angry at THEM! He was a perpetrator, not a victim.
7:41 “…his mom quickly bailed him out…” that’s why he is the way he is.. bcz his mom always bails him out & doesnt let him deal w/ the consequences of his actions🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Nice work SG. Best true crime channel on UA-cam
Thank you!
I reckon it's the same person sending that comment
But I love here accent it's like watching the Waltons TV America series haha. As a kid growing up
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Good night John boy
There are 143,000 true crime channels on youtube...you've watched them all? That's amazing.
Does each state in the United States have their own criminal laws?
I’m asking because it seems to vary so greatly. I’m only guessing that it could have something to do also with the local law enforcement but, for example, the last case, where there is a history of controlling behaviour, proposed separation etc and then the spouse is found dead….I’ve watched other cases where they have absolutely no evidence and the husband has an alibi and yet he still is charged with murder.
I’ve seen cases where they make up a story blaming someone for a death and then 10 years later DNA sets that person free.
I’m just saying that it’s strange that they didn’t even seem to look at her husband or not enough to be interesting for inclusion here.
They look at the spouse for a reason and that’s because it usually is them directly or indirectly.
I don’t know these folks but I feel badly that they are not having time with their daughter’s children, their grandchildren. That’s just selfish and mean…..controlling even. So sad, just so very sad 😞
Each state does have their own laws. And counties within those states may also have their own laws.
there are state laws & federal laws. & 2 different courts also, state level or federal. state laws can vary from state to state but a lot are very similar.
Yes and not only that, cities and counties in those states also have their own criminal laws . A murder might get you life in California, whereas in TN you might get life for possession of weed. The judicial system in this country is in need of a major overhaul.
@@Sbamabelle FACTS
Our legal system is a pathetic mess.
Thank you for informing us of these cases I hope that the families get some justice and I hope you and your family had a happy and safe New Year.
I wish they would requestion the girl with the Xmas presents that didn't explain where she got them.
Ugh I hate this if there's no body they don't do anything. If there's enough evidence to take it to a grand jury then they should be endited if the prosecution feels the case is strong enough especially when dealing with children imo
If there isn't a body, police will investigate if there is money.
I respectfully disagree. If a suspect is brought to trial, it's extremely likely that the jury will not convict with no body. If I'm on a jury, unless they have a picture of the defendant holding a knife over the victim's dead body, I'm not convicting with no body. There have been too many cases where someone was wrongfully suspected, or even convicted, when someone disappeared, and it turned out they were alive. Don't get me wrong, I agree that Tyler is blatantly guilty, but it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. If they bring him to trial and he's found not guilty, then later evidence turns up, he can't be tried again. It's not worth the risk.
At least this is starting to change. They convicted Vince Doan here in Ohio for killing his girlfriend Carrie Culberson back in 1996 (I think his trial was a few years later). That case was a cluster from the get go but at least they were able to convict him. To my knowledge, they still have not found her body.
@@beckysprang5517 But if he had been acquitted and they later found her body, and even with his DNA on it, they cpuld not press charges again
Sara’s husband killed her so she couldn’t get the children
What I think is so sad about some of these cases is that, somebody, somewhere has seen and/or heard something that could help cold cases. They are too afraid to speak up, don’t want to get involved, they think what they know is so small it doesn’t matter. I don’t know what else. But it is a damn shame to think that somebody could have a clue that could help. I hope there can be resolution and sooner rather than later.
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A fugue state for John is extremely unlikely. Long term amnesia requires major disruptions in brain function. Fugue state is a temporary psychosis that lasts for hours at most and, again, is usually caused by trauma.
Worst. Psychiatrist. Ever
you might be right, but other forms of mental illness can cause psychosis, and that can lead to confusion, not knowing who he is, wondering, and a complete break with reality
@@redred222 those are very extreme cases of psychosis with a very major traumatic event involved. That level is not likely (while probable) to happen just based on the stress he was under (as described) and no sleep with no history of mental illness. I wouldn’t argue with a temporary case but, long term is extremely unlikely. IMHO I think somebody wanted his cut of the money or they thought he’d quagmire the deal with SEC investigators.
That man was John. I don't understand why investigators say they are not sure but that person resembles missing person. They will question families but the investigators still are unsure. Why didn't they investigate the homeless shelters and question truck drivers? They would have found him and asked his family for dna
Robert's sister's story is very sad. So many people let her down. Thanks for doing these TN stories.
what story this?
Robert, Trent’s brother, who was home on leave, and his sister disappeared on the trail.
Idiotic isn't it?
Thank you for letting us know about these cold cases.
I live in Johnson City Tn not far from Gatlinburg/Dollywood
(In the Smoky mountains) recently a UA-camr Adventures with Nug solved a cold case out of Sparta Tennessee 2 teenagers ages 18 & 17 went missing in 2001 he found their car in a body of water her dad had fixhed over in the many years the 2 had been missing it was solved just last month So glad their family has closure.
Cold cases make me so sad :(
Tyler’s 911 call was no accident.
With Trenny, I think Robert was the one that killed her and kept her comb as a souvenir. Wonder what his criminal background shows?
And where did he hide her. Those woods were swept looking for her. I don't think he has enough time to dispose. Just my opinion.
Just because the area was searched, doesn’t mean she wasn’t there. It is very difficult to find a missing person in a wooded area. People can be found years later in areas that were already well searched.
Who knows his dad I think was the Knoxville city prosecutor I think
I will NEVER go hiking! Too many bad things happen no matter how many people are around!
All of these cases are tragic but the girl disappearing during a high school field trip n ppl having her things is very disturbing! How could someone who tried to break in your house, threaten you then basically get a slap on the wrist be allowed to attend the same school with you again? That would be petrifying!
Excellent work as always.
I hope that teacher was fired! Who takes a class on a field trip & doesn't tell anyone where they are going? Didn't parents have to sign permission slips?
I think he wound up committing suicide later.
Thanks SGC ~ great job as always ❤️
I have been marathoning your channel lately, im a new subscriber, so this upload was timely! Thank you!!
I live in TN and I've heard these cases all my life. Good job on the video
Tyler killed Shelly, Marlena's mother killed her and Trenny I have noooooo idea 🥲 I've been in that location she was hiking many times
What about the kid who had her comb? and the girl who had her jewelry?
Could you plesse provide your evidence to LE so they can press charges.
The 60s to 80s was a very interesting time in the Smoky mountains I'm sure y'all know. I believe she was snatched by a predator a man and he took her away to his car thru the woods. Or hid her deep in the woods there. If it was a student in my opinion they wouldn't have been able to hide it she would have been found, there just wasn't enough time to dispose correctly. In my opinion
She killed that little girl. If she could stab her own son she cable of killing the other
We've thought that since she disappeared
Always look forward to watching your videos. Thank you.❤️
Me too
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Another great vid! I think your accent really adds something the stories, especially the southern ones! Thanks again!
After the murder of a spouse, it always strikes me as extremely suspicious when the surviving parent (particularly when they are a person of interest or abusive/controlling) immediately cuts off all contact with the grandparents and/or the extended family of the victim. It's a very callous and cruel act...like pouring salt in an open wound. To me, it speaks to their temperament, lack of character and their propensity for inflicting pain needlessly.
We don't know everything. Maybe the grandparents kept blaming or even accusing him. If that was the case I would cut off contact as well.
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Yes, there is lots of circumstantial evidence against Tyler, but without knowing the details, it’s possible authorities would hold off of charging him to prevent the possibility of an acquittal.
Marlena Childress's dad Kevin was a good man. His life was destroyed after the disappearance of his daughter. He passed away not knowing what happened to his baby girl.
The river you said that Marlena was possibly thrown in, is pronounced "OH-BY-IN" Rver. This happened a road over from my grandmother's house. 2 years before I was born. But every time I pass that house, I think about it. I do wish someone would give the community some closure. I am not sure about any local family still being if. But, it's crazy they still have never figured it out.
I’m curious if in Tremmy’s case if the police found good enough reasons to do DNA on those cigarettes butts and beer can found where she left the trail, it would be interesting to see who they belonged too, I think it was a classmate who got her attention and called her over ?
How far could a student got her off trail and back to the bus when they were heading back. She would have been found if that was the case. I have been on the trail. Whoever snatched her took her far away
Back in that time there was predators lurking the park that would literally snatch people off the trails in the Smoky mountains. Dennis Martin, Trenny Gibson, Polly Melton. All disappeared in the smokies and apparently snatched. All within 12 years or so. Others have gone missing in there as well.
We live in a sick, cruel world where abusive bitches and assholes are overly fertile, populating the world with children who will suffer and propagate the same problems down generational lines. Or such a couple will divorce and the custodial spouse will remarry, to someone who abuses the children. THIS, while truly loving, kind, warm, generous people who desperately want children end up infertile, by some sadistic twist of the universe, and suffer in different undeserved ways in the name of bearing or acquiring children. Then many times, their desire remains unfulfilled or they adopt a child whose lineal psychological problems or outright sociopathy are not divulged, leading to pain, heartache or tragedy. This has happened in my extended family and I've seen years of it firsthand. F*** it all.
I remember when this happened I was a Sophomore in high school at Shelbyville Central. They never figured out what actually happened.
The second case. The social worker goes to a house find a girl that name herself like a missing girl. She doesn't call the police inmediatly but return herself the next day. The familx is gone. They find the family in another state, the little girl is not with them amymore. That is? Thanks for your collaboration? Keep living your life? This is ridiculous bad police work.
Im from union city and i havent known a single person that questioned that marlenas mother absolutely killed her except for very few people. Most for sure didnt question it once she tried killing her son. I was 2 when she disappeared and it real scared every parent around the area at the time.
Hope trenny's teacher was fired. Really dumb decision to leave teens wandering in the woods
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Good morning!
Did they DNA test the cigarette butts in Trini's case????
I doubt it
Murfreesboro native over here! This case has haunted our town ever since she went missing. Her missing pictures are still in the walls of our local gym in the locker rooms 😭
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What a plucking introduction...lol.
This is strange that I’m from Erie,PA which is pretty small and I’ve never heard of Shelly’s case
Thank you my favourite over the pond lady , such a trade guide when a family can’t even get closure so their grief is really confusing for them 😢
I hope Marlena's son disown her. She doesn't deserve to have any children period. She should have never been release from prison since the first time
I love your videos. Mostly because you cover crimes I haven't heard about 20 times already.
I have always thought Trenny's classmates could have done something to her and kept trophies from the crime. But i don't see how a bunch of kids could have made it so she was never found or outsmarted investigators ... unless the investigation wasn't thorough.
Unfortunately, given the location where she vanished, it’s definitely possible for someone to make another person disappear and never be found.
1st lady is 7 days younger than me.
One thing about a YT family they going protect there children even when there killers smh. 1st case is sad
Black and Hispanic families do this as well
@@sylvestersalad ugh not like they do! Plenty of there crimes are held up by families lying!
Rittenhouse and that Crumbly kid most recently
That's ridiculous, making judgements based on someone's skin color. Thats whats sad. Ask God to remove the hatred you have for ppl from your heart. It's so ignorant to make judgements about others using the color of their skin. Extremely ignorant
I love your channel🤩 New sub here 🙋🏼♀️🤗 Could you cover more missing persons cases specifically where the person disappeared/died under suspicious circumstances?! Or just unsolved missing persons cases that a baffling?! Maybe some from Arkansas, Mississippi &!Missouri?! I’ve not had the chance to look thru all your videos yet…. just thought I would throw a few suggestions in the comments🙃 great content, thanks!
WTH with Trinneys case?!!! What a crazy story 💔 thank you SG. Still catching up from last year. Love to you
Poplar and Ridgeway are HIGH CRIME areas in Memphis now…..
Isn’t that crazy? I can remember when it was considered a very safe area. I haven’t lived in Shelby County for over 20 years. Are there ANY safe areas anymore?
What kind of mom sells her own child to pay off a debt? Sounds like Marlena never had a chance at life.
I have NO doubt that Mook's parents assisted their "golden boy" in disposing of the body. Hopefully, the brother has a second crisis of conscience and will be compelled to reveal information on where to locate the remains. We true crime aficionados know well how tempers flare and emotions run wild with custody issues and in-laws. Mook seems to belong to a clan that protect their own, at all costs. Tyler appears to have been the highly favored son. That seems to be the ONLY reason I can determine to explain his brother's extraordinary decision to take the honorable step of testifying against Tyler. In a family that closes ranks to keep criminal acts secret, that's unheard of! I can only imagine the disdain he has endured by his "family." They probably now refer to him as"Fredo."
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Yet more abusive boyfriends/husbands getting away with murder. How depressing.
I am so glad Tyler's brother told the truth instead of joining the rest of his family and making him out to be a saint
Tyler's parents know the truth. They must be so proud.
I was born in 1955 and through out my school year's including the early 60s parents were made aware of any school trips.Never any surprise trips because we would have to bring a SACK LUNCH. You could bet that our teacher made us STAY TOGETHER and were with us the WHOLE TIME and NEVER TOOK THEIR EYES OFF THEIR STUDENTS!! The only surprise was and it wasn't a surprise,that if you gave your teachers any problem that when you got home, YOU GOT THAT ASS BEAT and more than likely you got a ASS WHIPPING by your teacher before you LEFT SCHOOL. This teacher should have been FIRED and CHARGED WITH NEGLIGENCE.
Tyler Mook is NOT a Tennessee boy.
I remember the Marlena Childress case so vividly. Union City is 15 miles from me, so I grew up frequenting the area.
Til this day, I can't drive over that area of the Obion River without thinking about her.
I live in UC. I do the same thing. 😢😢😢
Johnny Bailey would have no problem with his ex-Pam being around his kids?!?
She's got one child permanently missing, and another one she assaulted with a knife (conveniently during a blackout)....
Not a decision I would be comfortable with.
GOOD SHOW I HAVE TROUBLE KEEPING UP JUST WATCHING THESE.
YOU ARE AMAZING.
Why in God's name would Shelly......even be with someone like that in the first place. She was gorgeous. Having friends in that area, I remember them talking of her when this happened.
Sounds like the disappearance of Trinny could have involved foul play but there are strange things happen to people ESPECIALLY in National Parks and in particular the Smokey Mountains! Never go hiking alone in any of these parks, hike in groups and don’t stray even a few feet away from fellow hikers!
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@@SouthernGirlCrimeStories Your accent has its roots in England. My family has lost its English accent.
@@_i_am_unceded oh where do you live?
Those cigarettes and half empty beer can found just off the trail where "Trenny" was last seen (if the police still have them) contain someone's DNA. (Hint, hint)
Terrible case of Trenny...she could have walked off the path...or her vanilla faced walking partner could have killed her...OR the chocolate faced guy who was clearly heard stating the he would kill her was the killer...I'm thinking chocolate face.
With what we know about underground tunnels and activities... people do not disappear...she was abducted...
Thank you for true crime in Tennessee you're the best I pray for justice for the family they more than deserve it.
User or not I commend you for helping the regular ppl I 🙏 pray for justice for them all and feel and love each and every one they deserve justice they where just babies with no knowledge😮 of what's to come god has a place in his kingdom for those who hurt one another I pray for justice for the family and I want to say you left too soon. 😢 you are a beautiful woman and god willing he will give your families comfort in christ. Because I know you are dancing with the angels sweet girl
The piece of garbage that Hurt such a sweet gift from God will burn. I'm sorry to your love ones who.are grieving but honey touch them and let them know you are In heaven and it's more beautiful than anything you have ever seen. I'll meet you in heaven my sister I'm sorry for your tribulations on earth but your safe and loved now by your family. Friends and god in heaven. I hope this gives your family peace.
I am convinced that Trenny Lynn Gibson was one of serial killer Gary Hilton's first victims. I looked into that case for several years and the way that Trenny was taken near other people, and then taken around the lookout on top of Clingman's Dome, then to a place near Indian Gap where they waited for hours before leaving is amost identical to the way he took Meredith Emerson are nearly identical.
it's o-bi-inn not o-b-ein. Thats crazy we used to jump off the old o-b-ein/trimble bridge into the o-b-ein river. Trust me when im sure plenty of bodies have gone missing in that river just to get dumped into the Mississippi river never to be seen or heard of again 👀
So sad…I feel sure Shelly was put into that trash can by Tyler, which was eventually dumped into a landfill site. Sadly after all this time, and amount of rubbish tipped on top, there is now little if any chance of finding her body now. Her poor little girl didn’t deserve to lose her mother like that.🌹💕
Huh..... husband was the only one with something to gain.
Ik this is gonna sound weird but I think I went to elementary school kindergarten Marlena it always stuck out to me bc she came in after school started n abruptly left there was a few stories going around about her being in a bad home situation to foster care n other things idek how I rem tht but I do it always felt strange to me the situation w her. She ate glue she had a lot behavioral issues just a lot goin on there but I swear I think tht is her. Even as a child I was perceptive to things which has only intensified maybe that’s why she stood out to me 🤔
Parents who keep their children from other family for reasons beyond safety are terrible parents and very selfish. I dislike my ex in laws very much, but they love my children and are good to them so they have all the access to them they want because my love for my kids is bigger than my dislike for my ex and his parents.
Just what in the Hell is wrong with these ppl..although these crimes are still unsolved, I can imagine the million more horrific tragedies thems woods are still hiding!
Her and John both used drugs. They both r crazy . Kevin her dad went to his death not knowing what happen to his daughter. I can remember the street and the house were they lived. We lived down the road from her
That story about Trini is an odd one. The poor family experienced quite a bit of tragedy, with nobody left.
Yeah, it's a *real effin' mystery* what happened to Shelley. Argh. So frustrating.
My home state. Thank you, again! 😊
All of these were compelling stories.
It seems very likely that Shelley was in her burning car, and also most likely was killed by Monk. I think he had already killed her, when he brought their daughter in from the car.
In John Cheek's case, one's got to figure that whatever he did, he wasn't in his right mind. It seems highy unlikely that he is still alive, sadly.