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  • @so.sleepy_508
    @so.sleepy_508 4 місяці тому +325

    Cloud 9 picking yay up and dropping him is what killed yay. Thats gotta take a toll mentally and physically (not playing at the highest level)

    • @m1LKbagzz
      @m1LKbagzz 4 місяці тому +7

      I'm a massive c9 fan, have been since they formed back in 2013. But sadly I completely agree, I don't know what we were doing.

    • @dillonsiv
      @dillonsiv 4 місяці тому +2

      He did say on stream that he had other things going on in his life at the time but yeah that whole situation certainly didn't help

    • @user-zu1pe1di4r
      @user-zu1pe1di4r 4 місяці тому +10

      100% he probably felt like he wasted a year since he didn’t get to compete properly and now he has massive shoes to fill to reach his old self

    • @cnaizhen
      @cnaizhen 4 місяці тому

      Fully agree. Momentum is very important for eSports players, particularly in a 'new' game like valorant where few players have the performance track record.
      Yay missing the team trade window due to c9 gave teams the opportunity to realize that there are good-enough players out there who could perform as well, and drawing a much lower salary. I won't know better, but I feel that his stint at DSG messed him up quite bad as well.

    • @leethestar
      @leethestar 4 місяці тому

      "role issues" LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER SFX

  • @sayo2434
    @sayo2434 4 місяці тому +297

    one of the worst arguments ever is the whole "chamber abuser" shit, every single team had a chamber in that meta. it's not their fault that yay gapped everyone else's chamber

    • @LimabeanStudios
      @LimabeanStudios 4 місяці тому +12

      It's sorta right but from the angle that chamber just so happened to take advantage of Yay's strengths. He absolutely excels at shooting while stationary which is why he is so much stronger on chamber than other agents.

    • @jagason7494
      @jagason7494 4 місяці тому +1

      yea but he was performing really well on jett and made it to finals of masters berlin

    • @er3n_genes1s21
      @er3n_genes1s21 4 місяці тому +8

      ur counter argument is also pure shit cuz if u look at it, jett/raze meta is the strongest rn and every single team has jett or raze in their team, so where is that chamber abuser now huh?

    • @sayo2434
      @sayo2434 4 місяці тому

      @@er3n_genes1s21 in bleed getting ready to play franchising in a month braindead ass kid LMAO

    • @amiko6000
      @amiko6000 4 місяці тому

      well by saying abuser people are making it sound as if no one else was playing chamber only yay when that is not the case @@er3n_genes1s21

  • @BustyVal
    @BustyVal 4 місяці тому +52

    Lowkey Hoping for a Yay comeback, I Hope Bleed play well with yay as opposed to their performance in the off season.

  • @hexdragon35
    @hexdragon35 4 місяці тому +4

    Love this video, was asking myself the same question lately. Cant wait to see him play on BLEED, rooting for him heavy

  • @lusaria
    @lusaria 4 місяці тому +8

    I'll be so happy once I see him play again in VCT

  • @Fauzyfzy
    @Fauzyfzy 4 місяці тому +11

    FAX HE GOT ME INTO VALORANT NEARLY A YEAR AGO AND WAS JUST THE COOLEST MOTHERFUCKER EL DIABLO YOU GOTTA FEAR HIM BABY

  • @ArcaneFPS
    @ArcaneFPS 4 місяці тому +7

    Never stopped thinking yay was the goat, he was just killed by c9 although bleed yay will be a sight to see i think especially considering he looks pretty good so far

  • @quexi1186
    @quexi1186 4 місяці тому +63

    Jingg has been player of the years playstile and stat wise and I think he’s the goat for me looking at the last years together

    • @WowwSG
      @WowwSG 4 місяці тому +5

      Agree

    • @alangeorge4053
      @alangeorge4053 4 місяці тому +1

      Chronicleq

    • @itscatoclock
      @itscatoclock 4 місяці тому +23

      No way. I would understand if you said Aspas, but how could Jingg really be a contender with no big tournament wins? The best raze of all time? Yes. The best player? No.

    • @chrlzcs
      @chrlzcs 4 місяці тому +5

      jinggg with 0 wins? loooool player of the year is Leo argue with your wall

    • @quexi1186
      @quexi1186 4 місяці тому +8

      @@chrlzcs I thought it was best player not best team sorry

  • @luckc6532
    @luckc6532 4 місяці тому +7

    i dont understand why everybodys shitting on yay. in 2023 he played well at lockin and c9 dropped him. he then played his first matches in t2 with dsg, and played meh (he had his moments). then steel got benched and it all went to shit. Exalt took over and yay was basically supposed to keep the team afloat. no hate to exalt btw, great player, but hard to igl as duelist and aggro player. i 100% believe if c9 kept yay he wouldve farmed. if ur saying shit like chamber abuser, keep in mind that not only did he shit on prx and play well against drx with nerfed chamber, but also showcased his fucking sage. hes still probably one of the best, and i want him to be able to show that this year

  • @expiredyams
    @expiredyams 4 місяці тому

    I love your thumbnails. So clean and they get the point of the video across effectively. Whats your CTR been on the past few videos?
    geeked out a little oops

  • @BeYN744
    @BeYN744 4 місяці тому +39

    Leo would be considered the goat already if he played duelist, sadly the casual watchers only see flashy duelists as cool so they are always talked about as the goat.

    • @mete2519
      @mete2519 4 місяці тому +6

      yes he was a top3 player but its not like there were 0 players that could be CONSIDERED to be better
      im not saying that demon1 is better but to some people he is and that i valid even with the lack of playtime he was on two roles and always the best in the lobby no matter who he played

    • @Navch0
      @Navch0 4 місяці тому

      leo wouldnt do Leo stuff if he were a duelist tho, I mean he has a great year alongside alfajer both are the top of their roles, and if they won champs an any other trophy on 2024 they would be in that convo alongside chornicle and derke

    • @Fluskar
      @Fluskar 4 місяці тому +22

      doesnt work like that though. the reason why leo is so good is because hes on initiator. him being on duelist would undoubtedly change his relaxed playstyle and not make him as good as he is now.
      and people like alfajer and less are considered some of the best while still on controller/sentinel

    • @BeYN744
      @BeYN744 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Fluskar yeah i agree, initiator is definitely the best role for leo, but my point moreso is that support players dont get the hype they deserve even if they are better than the flashy duelists. I believe that leo is so good that if he was a duelist player he would get hyped up more since ppl barely talk about imo the best player itw.

    • @Rhag7
      @Rhag7 4 місяці тому

      honestly i think alfajer is the goat. hes ranked #2 in fair 1v1 rifle duels wins, behind demon1 but he doesnt play duelist and he is a clutch god. every round he wins is a masterclass and its just so satisfying to watch him play

  • @SuperBES49
    @SuperBES49 4 місяці тому

    Looking forward for yay to dominate or get shit on this year in tier 1 vct, either way will be fun to watch 🍿

  • @afggg8194
    @afggg8194 Місяць тому +1

    He was so good that the only way to nerf him was to drop him from t1

  • @fps_marti
    @fps_marti 4 місяці тому

    good video, good watch

  • @tonystark-hw8vr
    @tonystark-hw8vr 4 місяці тому +1

    He is the GOAT

  • @eleganteval8330
    @eleganteval8330 4 місяці тому

    its so hard to be consistant in valorant. i hope he come bac

  • @saucyval
    @saucyval 4 місяці тому

    good vid 1saac

  • @9y2gt8wc07wxpfcs
    @9y2gt8wc07wxpfcs 4 місяці тому

    nice video, derke and demon1 when?

  • @iswungyou
    @iswungyou 4 місяці тому

    He’s Celtics shaq now

  • @spiiralwya
    @spiiralwya 4 місяці тому

    people saying he fell off after the chamber nerf clearly forgot you have to use guns to hit headshots and anyone can buy guns 💀

  • @technodream5980
    @technodream5980 4 місяці тому +1

    Zaltex can u pls make a video on PRX and Forsaken and their chocking habits

  • @afggg8194
    @afggg8194 4 місяці тому +2

    Does anybody know why yay's not active on any of his social media? He's not playing on his acc on tracker as well. Has he taken a break or something?

    • @magma55100
      @magma55100 4 місяці тому

      You found his new acc on tracker? I believe there was a vid where he plays on a diff account now since he’s in a dfferent region

    • @solaris218
      @solaris218 4 місяці тому +2

      Most pros are currently not playing ranked because they're scrimming for next season. In this case, Yay is probably scrimming a lot with Bleed and using a different account as he's in Asia now.

    • @afggg8194
      @afggg8194 4 місяці тому

      @@magma55100 not his new acc. he goes by 'BLEED yay', but he has another account to scrim on since theres no matches played on his tracker

    • @afggg8194
      @afggg8194 4 місяці тому

      @@solaris218 yh fair point

  • @vaikunthkeshavkrishnan7750
    @vaikunthkeshavkrishnan7750 4 місяці тому

    He's going to make everyone bleed

  • @konsti6306
    @konsti6306 4 місяці тому

    we cant forget that there was op chamber

    • @jasoneng3161
      @jasoneng3161 4 місяці тому +1

      True, but every team was using chamber and yay was still miles above any other player

  • @entgay3767
    @entgay3767 4 місяці тому

    as singaporean, among us

  • @dnrsls
    @dnrsls 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you please make a video about "The Potential of Team Secret"

    • @WowwSG
      @WowwSG 4 місяці тому +10

      Video wouldn't even hit the 30secs mark

    • @dnrsls
      @dnrsls 4 місяці тому

      @@WowwSG Enough to fish comments like yours

    • @FakeTacoo
      @FakeTacoo 4 місяці тому

      But they don't have potential

    • @dnrsls
      @dnrsls 4 місяці тому

      @@FakeTacoo sure

    • @NoVisionGuy
      @NoVisionGuy 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dnrsls TS lost its potential after not signing gian

  • @yo-yoma3406
    @yo-yoma3406 4 місяці тому

    you should make a video on when Aspas was it is best or if he’s still going

  • @hollyroberson9018
    @hollyroberson9018 4 місяці тому

    dam ur rich

  • @bentleykevin6160
    @bentleykevin6160 4 місяці тому

    no way yay comes back, unless he changes his playstyle.

  • @user-wp5gw3jl4s
    @user-wp5gw3jl4s 4 місяці тому

    Yay is too accurate to be good at diving.

  • @julle4040
    @julle4040 4 місяці тому

    Real

  • @ManuelMorales-ms2mi
    @ManuelMorales-ms2mi 4 місяці тому

    Dude the game isnt even old yet, what are these videos

  • @Shouttz
    @Shouttz 4 місяці тому +5

    he was the best in his prime but he's not really the GOAT, both Leo and Aspas (maybe Derke too) have held their peak performance for longer, he's probably top 5 still though

    • @shortfutiball7023
      @shortfutiball7023 4 місяці тому +9

      lmao leo the biggest baiter in history

    • @Navch0
      @Navch0 4 місяці тому +1

      leo wasnt even mentioned in the goat debate a year ago

    • @Shouttz
      @Shouttz 4 місяці тому

      ok if you remove Leo, both Aspas and Derke are more deserving than yay for GOAT title

    • @shortfutiball7023
      @shortfutiball7023 4 місяці тому

      yh i get what u mean but yay could have stayed at top level if optic didnt end up and i dont think aspas or derke would have done a lot better on the c9 or dsg team@@Shouttz

    • @er3n_genes1s21
      @er3n_genes1s21 4 місяці тому

      @@shortfutiball7023 Ironic when yay was baiting on chamber the whole time during his honeymoon 💀Do u expect Initiator's to take first duels or some shit? the main reason why they dont overextend and save their initiator util is because they help in clearing sites for the duelists to entry and if that's "baiting" in ur shit NA terms, then idk

  • @krishpandey10
    @krishpandey10 4 місяці тому

    Zaltex is my goat

  • @oStraw
    @oStraw 4 місяці тому +2

    prime yay was a chamber merchant

    • @jasoneng3161
      @jasoneng3161 4 місяці тому +1

      When did you start watching him? He was a demon on Jett a year before chamber was even released. Also it's not like he was the only player using chamber, every team had a star chamber player and he was tiers above them.

    • @oStraw
      @oStraw 4 місяці тому

      @@jasoneng3161 and now look at him. Washed in apac and can’t preform in t2. He’s a chamber merchant bud

    • @jasoneng3161
      @jasoneng3161 4 місяці тому +1

      @@oStraw that is true, but what he is now doesn't erase his dominance in the past

  • @heyoooitsbambi
    @heyoooitsbambi 4 місяці тому

    he was just the better chamber abuser at that time. come on.. a marshal that 1 shots with 7 ult orbs is stupid. with the ability to insta bring out a sheriff. dont get me started with its tp..

  • @jhoss47
    @jhoss47 4 місяці тому

    Yay is not even close in the goat debate he hasn't won any major tournaments, he wasn't the best without the chamber meta and he wasn't good on other teams still a great player but not the best

    • @xongliq6441
      @xongliq6441 4 місяці тому

      Ummm he did win a major tournament tho

    • @jhoss47
      @jhoss47 4 місяці тому

      @@xongliq6441 mb i didnt do my research but how many have fnatic won?

  • @aidenfrost10
    @aidenfrost10 4 місяці тому +3

    I think saying 'at his Prime' for any player is just redundant because any player at their prime is seemingly unbeatable so I stand by the line that greatness over a long period of time > greatness for a short time span or tournament or 2.
    In that case I'd argue the likes of Jinggg, Forsaken, nAts, Suygetsu, Shao are probably the most consistent players of all time and probably deserves thee nod better but then again they don't have THE factor or moments that someone like yay, tenz or demon1 has/had.

    • @hanscarls1798
      @hanscarls1798 4 місяці тому +16

      yay's prime was an entire year and a half and only going negative on 3 maps and the people you have mentioned with the exception of paper rex players are single tournament wonders.

    • @ikeachair517
      @ikeachair517 4 місяці тому +2

      how can you be talking about nats suygetsu and shao when they each had one good tournament

  • @jugalgadhavi
    @jugalgadhavi 4 місяці тому

    C9 killed yay, idc what anyone says

  • @michalddddddddd
    @michalddddddddd 4 місяці тому

    sentinels actually won pretty a lot

    • @zeddexel
      @zeddexel 4 місяці тому

      what does this have to do with yay

    • @michalddddddddd
      @michalddddddddd 4 місяці тому

      He compared yay to tenz's career, tenz has just won korea​@@zeddexel

    • @WardeN-lo5dr
      @WardeN-lo5dr 4 місяці тому

      ​@@michalddddddddd,who cares about an off-season mickey mouse cup

    • @wr31rf
      @wr31rf 4 місяці тому

      @@WardeN-lo5dr ur mom

    • @WardeN-lo5dr
      @WardeN-lo5dr 4 місяці тому

      ​@@wr31rfcringe kid
      Keep
      Yourself
      Safe

  • @shionki2998
    @shionki2998 4 місяці тому

    How good was prime chamber actually..?

  • @Ieshua_inf
    @Ieshua_inf 4 місяці тому

    Its because of FNS

    • @taxavation
      @taxavation 4 місяці тому

      Then why did ardiis fail on NRG?

    • @ayayatn4731
      @ayayatn4731 4 місяці тому

      @@taxavation EMEA double agent💀

    • @gordonlee263
      @gordonlee263 4 місяці тому

      @@taxavation cause mfs always on sage killjoy and other random shit

  • @rebsinfxrebs
    @rebsinfxrebs 4 місяці тому +1

    there is no prime yay. just good old chamber

    • @amiko6000
      @amiko6000 4 місяці тому

      everyone played chamber he was the best

  • @sergiofigueroabravo9141
    @sergiofigueroabravo9141 4 місяці тому +1

    was just chamber meta lol

  • @qwertyzxc369
    @qwertyzxc369 4 місяці тому

    demon1 clears

  • @philo8975
    @philo8975 4 місяці тому

    hes not even close to the goat

  • @LukeSaward
    @LukeSaward 4 місяці тому

    Prime? Sure ig he was mad good. But now? Hes washed just like TenZ.

  • @dw4rdgg
    @dw4rdgg 4 місяці тому +1

    Overrated 💩

  • @Shaperr7x8790
    @Shaperr7x8790 4 місяці тому

    his not good enough, the agent that he pick is broken

    • @drexalte69
      @drexalte69 4 місяці тому +21

      The cope is just insane. Didn’t derke,buzz,ardiis,and some of the world class opers/duels play chamber as well? Yet, no one could come to his level. Why ?Yes chamber was beyond broken but everyone had the same agent, it’s not like they were playing the nerfed chamber but the way he understood chamber playstyle with addition to his insanely calm aim, he was unstoppable. Maybe go watch some VODs instead of Highlights to understand the game better. A bad year with a t2 team means nothing
      Also, he got a 6fig salary for a reason, ain’t no one dumb as rock to pay 6 figures to a “not good enough” player lmao

    • @alimakan7780
      @alimakan7780 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@@drexalte69fr. Just shows how dumb the majority of casual players are

    • @NoVisionGuy
      @NoVisionGuy 4 місяці тому

      @@drexalte69 in the end, derke had more success because he chose legacy

    • @sleepking2565
      @sleepking2565 4 місяці тому +5

      @@NoVisionGuybut optic could no longer play in franchising but fnatic did??? What’s your point?

    • @Johnclouth
      @Johnclouth 4 місяці тому

      Then why could no one compete with him on the same agent

  • @thawtayza1892
    @thawtayza1892 4 місяці тому +1

    Hes mid