Bolens PTO rebuild - Part2 (Strip down)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In this video we continue the project to rebuild a Bolens PTO (Power Take-Off). Today we strip down the PTO
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Episode 293
Hey Joseph. That pully didn't want to let go of its relationship with the shaft. Looking forward to the rebuild.
Thanks. I think the pulley would have come off easier if we had cleaned the shaft better but a good lesson for next time. Take care
Another great episode, Joe! You and The Cameraman have the best TV channel on the airwaves!!!!
Thank you for the very kind words and for following along. Take care
You are going through this tractor literally piece by piece. This series good be the definitive Bolens repair guide
Thank you very much. We are learning a lot about Bolens tractors doing these jobs. Take care
Very interesting to see how this pto is put together. Good job getting it figured out how it comes apart. Good luck making the plastic dust seal.
Thanks. It was fun working out how this came apart and it was different to how we were expecting. It seems odd that everything is held on with snap rings. The seal washer will be interesting. Take care
Ever seen that many snap rings on a shaft before . Great job on the disassembly !!👍🏻
Thanks. We were very surprised by the number of snap rings and that they are a non standard size. It was fun working out how to take it apart. Take care
Good job getting the power take off unit disassembled. It fought you a bit, but you overcame. Have fun cleaning it 😁👍
It was interesting to work out how to take it apart and I am sure the next one will be a lot easier. We need to find an easier way to clean large amounts of grease of parts, it is a horrible job. Take care
Great analysis on why you could not remove the shaft. The Puller is a very useful tool to have 👍🏻. Well done Joseph and Iian 👍🏻. Have a great week Joseph 🙋🏼♂
Thanks. It was interesting working out how to take this apart. We have a few different types of puller and they are very useful. Take care and I hope you have a great week too
A good puller is always a tool a workshop needs. My best video is still just us pulling a motor gear box and people still ask me questions about the puller. Have a great one and excellent job 👍👍
Thanks. We have a good collection of pullers but we are always looking for different one we can add to the collection. I don't think you can have too many different types of pullers. Take care
Good afternoon Joseph.
Listening to you guys while on the way home from unloading a load of milk.
The big drawback is that I don’t get to see all the amazing shots that your awesome cameraman takes!
Thanks for listening even though you could not watch. Take care
😂 “I’ll be wearing it not you…” 😂
LOL. We like to have a laugh in the workshop. Take care
Always difficult to strip something that you don’t know whats inside! Well done Joseph!
Phil
Thanks. You are right. It was interesting to work out how to strip it down but the next one will take far less time. Take care
Always a good idea to go over a shaft like that lightly with a file to remove any high spots and then soak it a bit with penetrating oil before pushing it through something. Your making good progress!
Thanks for the great advice. Take care
Very good tear down Joseph! Looking forward to seeing how you make the nylon bushing. 👏🙇♂️
Thanks. The nylon bushing will be interesting. Take care
Love this episode Joseph. Disassembling something you don't know. First off, the cameraman got a voice..... I was screaming at the video, clean and oil the splines before the puller tightened up lol, also you could of applied heat to the pulley. Engineering dilemma, you'd think a tractors PTO would be a simple accessory. You've proved its a Rubik Cube in reality. Top drawer......Cheers Tony
Thanks. We should have known better and cleaned the splines first but it was a good lesson. It was fun working out how to take this apart and interesting that everything is held on with snap rings. Take care
Well done boys with an S. I knew you guys could take it all apart and diagnose the shaft problem....well done....CHEERS
Thanks. It is always interesting to strip something different down. Take care
Good Evening Joseph crew, this a great team work between you and your dad camera man ; ) Keep Your Oustanding team work and School work also CHeers !!!
Thank you for the kind words. This is an interesting and fun project. Take care
It looks a lot less difficult than the rear differential. Keep up the good work my friend 🔧👍
Thanks. You are right, the rear differential was really difficult. Take care
Nice video. My suspicions were correct as to why the shaft would not slide out. I look forward to the cleaning and re-assembly of the pto.
It is always interesting trying to work out how this came apart. I am not looking forward to the cleaning but the rest should be fun. Take care
Nice video. When you are going to take things apart, clean them first. Spray with a penetrating oil to soak as long as possible. I had to soak a bleeding nipple for 6 months on my big truck before it came loose. Sometimes you need to knock the bearing race back to take pressure off of the clip. While you are at it, I hope that you just rebuild both PTOs. Have fun. Good Luck, Rick
Thanks for all the great advice. We should know by now that we needed to clean the shaft but it was a good lesson. We will see how easy it is to make a nylon seal washer before rebuilding more than one PTO. Take care
Nice job fellas. That was a different type of puller to take the race out of the end after the shaft came out. Great that it all came apart. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Thanks. We have a number of different types of puller and we usually find one of them that will work. Take care
I love this show you guys really get in there 😊 if I ever get into one of those....I know the man to call 📞 thanks for sharing buddy 👍 and thanks for the tip so the puller don't twist 😊 very smart
Thanks. This is the first time we have been inside one of these PTO's and I am sure it will be a lot easier next time. Take care
That is a very interesting PTO. Your dad can really multi-task!! That pulley was definitely a tough one to get off. That Puller is the answer for sure. I enjoyed all this pulley pulling but I must admit I prefer tractor pulling more lol. This has been a very interesting project so far. Take care
Thanks. It was fun working out how to take this apart. Yes, tractor pulling is so much more fun :-) Take care
Love your videos young man.
Thank you for the kind words and for following along. Take care
Nice video keep up the great work it's looking good
Thank you very much, it was fun. Take care
Awesome 👌 👏 Thumbs up from me (17) Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much for watching and commenting. Take care
Good progress for sure Joseph! You were either 2 for 4 or 3 for 5 on snap ring removal. I find them (regardless of size) to be a challenge to remove. Looking forward to the rebuild when parts arrive. Thanks for sharing! Take care!
Thanks. I always struggle with snap rings but as these ones are heavy duty they were even more difficult. We are going to see if we can buy a better tool. Take care
They call that tool a "Pickle Fork Ball Joint Splitter." in Canada. Handy for all sorts of demolition though. The snap rings were certainly the mystery in this PTO. The u-joints that have the ability to add grease are always superior. Nothing like a three-jawed pulled to yank things apart. Take care
I have heard the name "Pickle Fork Ball Joint Splitter" before. It is very odd how everything is held together with snap rings. Take care
@@GardenTractorBoyI guess that tool has two uses. When it's not in the shop splitting ball joints, you can have it in the kitchen to skewer hard boiled eggs and, of course, pickles. LOL
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Snap rings, Snap rings, Snap rings, woohoo. Take care.
I don't think I have seen so many in my life :-) Take care
Awesome video Joseph, seems if this was a difficult dis-assembly
Thanks. It would have been easier to strip down if the large bearing had not broken. Take care
How's she goin'? Interesting what you find when you strip down an assembly eh. You, in effect, can reverse engineer it. And when you do the tear down you discover why it's made the way it is and even why it may have failed. Nice job on this tear down. Take 'er easy!!
Thanks. You are right, it was great working out how this came apart and trying to work out why they designed it the way they did. Take care
Nice video thanks for the info
Thank you very much. Take care
Thanks for another great informational video. - glad you were able to get the PTO units apart. Looking at the first PTO (rusty unit) it appears that the double groove pulley was installed backwards for some reason - perhaps to align the belts on a non stock engine?? On the 1050's and 1053 that I have the pulleys are all on the same with the recessed face to the rear as the second PTO pulley (off white unit) was. Interesting find on the slip joint with the non serviceable U joint - perhaps the later units were made that way to cut down on manufacturing cost and perhaps maintenance. Possibly the uncapped cross was set in place in the yoke ears and then the caps pressed in over the cross pin. Would be difficult to get the cross centered exactly to prevent vibration given the speed it would turn I would think and definitely not designed for longevity in my opinion since there is no easy way to lubricate it the way the older ones can be with a grease fitting. You might be able to tack weld a washer on the face of the caps so you could possibly pull them out of the yoke ears to service it - just a thought.
I have found the easiest way to remove the shaft is to remove the rear outer snap ring, the rear pulley and then the inner rear snap ring. Next remove the front snap ring on the shaft that holds the nylon washer in place and then push the shaft forward enough so that the nylon washer slides forward so you can remove it - it is usually a snug fit on the shaft. Then remove the large snap ring that holds the front bearing in place and then push the shaft forward - the front bearing usually is not a press fit in the housing and it will usually slide forward easily with the shaft so you can remove the shaft and front bearing as an assembly and then easily access the front inner snap ring if required.
Inspect the shaft closely for any signs of wear where the needle bearing runs on it - I believe that the shaft is hardened in that area to prevent it from wearing. I have experienced bearing failures at both the front (ball) and rear (needle) bearings back during the first few years I became acquainted with the tube frames and quickly realized how important it is to keep the PTO assembly greased faithfully. I adopted a policy of greasing the PTO every time I use it with one or two pumps of the grease gun and since I did that I have not experienced any bearing failures. Both my 1050's were well used before I got them and the splines on the PTO shaft and pulley where they meet can wear and strip out on high hour machines as I found with mine. The splines on the shaft can be built up with a mig welder and then shaped with a file and hacksaw blade to return the splines on it to a useable level. Worn splines in the pulley hub can be turned out and a new splined one inch diameter splined insert machined and pressed into the pulley if necessary. Whenever I remove the pulley from the shaft I coat the spines in that area with a layer of grease during reassembly which seems to help prevent wear and also makes removing the pulley from the shaft much easier if required in the future. Just some suggestions that may help you.
Keep up the great work
Thank you for all the great detailed information and suggestions. It was fun working out how to take this apart and I am sure the next one would be very easy but less fun. The orientation of the pulley was very interesting on the other PTO and confused us when we were making some quick notes afterwards. We did check a few of our other tractors and all others are installed the way you suggested. After cleaning the parts up we were very surprised how good condition everything is but that is great information for repairing the shaft and pulley on future projects, thanks. Take care
Sometimes this old stuff can be a challenge but that's what makes it interesting,, if everything went easy every time, it'd be pretty boring.
I completely agree, it was fun working out how to take this apart. I am sure the next one will be a lot easier but less fun. Take care
Hello Joseph,
I had my money on the grease nipple causing an obstruction when trying to take the shaft out... I got that one wrong - lol.
Take care.
Paul,,
It was very interesting working out how this came apart and we were surprised that everything was held together with snap rings or circlips as we call them over here. The next one will be much easier to take apart but less fun. Take care
They all look to have worked hard in life, thankfully a team such as yourselves will give them the much needed service 👍 Wonder if 3D printing would yield a good result, or if there are mixes that would be strong enough to hold up ?
Thanks for the kind words. We had the same conversation and I think you are right 3D printing would be the best option or it would be if we had a 3D printer. As such, we will try to make one on the lathe. The only time I have seen one of these washers broken is when the bearing behind it decides to explode so it does not need to be strong. Take care
@@GardenTractorBoy- There is an organization here called Makerspace, they have many tools and machines open to be used by members on site, have been in there a few times but not jumped in, anyway, they had half a dozen printers on the go last time i was there. Maybe something like that there (edit- where you are) as well ?
That was a bit of an ordeal it appears.... makes me cringe thinking about a future day when I may need to take apart the double deck pulley from 1 of my 200 series deeres to replace needle bearings... on the note of snap rings there are other types of snap ring tools to help with the stubborn/stiff ones...might be worth looking into..by the way love that pulley puller
I am sure it will be much easier on the next one and it would have been a lot easier if the bearing had not exploded. Thanks, we will search out a better snap ring tool. Take care