How To Get Rid of Planaria & Hydra - Shrimp Keeping
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Damn this was the best answer too planaria control on the internet , complete control in two days completely true . This guys a pro . Thank god people like Mark share there expertise for free on YT . Thank you so much for the effort of making this hobby effortless. 🙏🏼
As stated in the video, be VERY careful when using with tanks that have snails.
We used panacure-c to try and kill some hydra. Removed my nerite snail BEFORE the treatment. Did the treatment as per the directions from other aquarists, and did a 50% water change 24 hours later. Did another water change 24 hours after that, then waited a day or two before I put my nerite back in the tank. Keep in mind that before this, he was doing just great for months.
A couple days after we put him back in the tank, he stopped moving around, went dormant and eventually died. This took about two weeks.
Two weeks after that, we got two more nerite snails, and the same thing happened to them a few days later; they went dormant and eventually died, although it took longer this time around. All this time, we were doing weekly water changes of about 20%.
I'm convinced that the product coated the substrate, rocks and even leeched into the driftwood, thus causing the eventual death of our snails WEEKS after the treatment had been cleared from the tank.
(BTW, all our water parameters were within acceptable ranges before, during and after treatment. No spikes of any kind.)
We got a new nerite a couple weeks ago, and he's doing just fine.
As for how our shrimp and fish did with the treatment, they all did well and we didn't lose any fish or shrimp.
So, be VERY careful if you use this stuff in tanks that you normally have snails in. The long-term effects can be deadly to them.
great post ,first time I used it I also lost all my nerites, Activated carbon is meant to remove it from the tank but I dont know if it does or not.
How much did you use of the fenbendazole, can't figure out how much to use per gallon of water.
@@abbychappuis9417 I may be late for you, but anyone else reading this thread later, I've read 0.1 grams per 10 gallons
@@JeffreyEgan And for anyone else using litres, that is 0.26 grams per 100 litres.
Thanks so much, Mark! I found planaria and was planning on changing the substrate from Fluval Mud to sand. Also because I lost my wedding ring setting up this substrate two years ago. Anyhoo, I learned that after I'd scooped shrimp and plants to put in my QT tank while I worked on RCS tank that the planaria were on the plants I'd moved. But fenbendazole is safe for plants so I can put the infected plants from QT back into RCS tank w/new substrate, THEN dose it. But it sounds like I'd be fine moving plants & RCS back into my shrimp tank w/new substrate and dosing it afterward. [Wish me luck finding my wedding ring!]
great knowledge drop Mark, the personal experience you bring to the topic is invaluable
Thank you Dwain :)
Great timing on the upload. Found a planaria last night. Also thank you for the warning on the snail population crash before hand! Keep em coming!
Thank you Katas :)
Thanks mark :). Im the one who asked you about this on ebay!. I Got the spoon (and samples) today by the way, thanks again!!
Thanks for the advice and had a funny reaction with No Planaria and what was in my tank. I actually had Rhabdocoela worms which it didn’t not kill, and have read it won’t in on forums. Plus didn’t experience much MTS die off so far but hear it can happen weeks down the line as you also stated here. SoI’m doing 5% water changes and keeping an eye on my tank levels. So far I’ve noticed a ton more cyclops which they say is a great indicator species that things are ideal. Thanks again for the tips
Thank you so very much for your input Mark, very interesting as usual 👌🏻👌🏻😀😀
I wish I would have known it kills leeches too! Would have saved me a lot of time. Thank you for the information Mark! I'll keep it in mind if it happens again!
You are welcome :)
No Planaria also kills hydra. The only negative I experienced with the product was it slowly killed off my ramshorn snails, as you noted in the video. However, I didn't have any shrimp die offs, even though I did overdose the second treatment. It's my personal favorite for removing these type of pests. I recommend removing as many snails as possible prior to usage though and removing any dead bodies during.
Emad Khan Oh I absolutely LOVE No Planaria! It worked very well for me, and is perfectly safe for shrimp, fish, and plants😁
I'm new to the whole shrimp and snails tank. So suddenly I'm seeing a bunch of these white tiny fine thread like things crawling on my aquarium glass. Also seeing these white fungus looking thing on the aquarium glass...since you've used this product to treat the problem, Can I ask how do u treat the snails? Since they might bring the same prob over to another tank if they're removed from the problem tank for safe keeping? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thk u!
Where is my thumbs up button ? Lol.,.. As always, Great Tips Mark. :)
Most helpfulness for me , I will try it on my tank .
Thank you so much !
You are very welcome :)
thanks Mark, i needed this. i just found i have planaria in my tank, and i have a ton of baby shrimp. i need to get rid of them.
Awesome, i remember watching your videos you helped me a lot tanks :)
+Challenge the Wild thank you sir 😃
I found Hydra in blue dream shrimp tank for the first time. I see doggie dewormer is not snail safe so need to rehome them.However, I am wondering if I put Nerite snail in shrimp tank to other tank that are not affected by hydra, if Snail could move hydra with them and makes other tank hydra introduced in. What do you suggest to go about it? If I could put the snail in hospital tank and mild med that would not affect them so harsh to make sure nothing on them, I would like to know. Paraguard and other med is useful? I think your video is very informative and I like them. Thank you for the good info.
I don't know how you do it Mark, but I ended up adding fish to my shrimp tank. For whatever reason I always end up with some kind of pest if I only have shrimps in my tank. Seems like heavy refugee-planted tank, with nano fish make for a better balanced system for me.
All the shrimp I get go through some type of quarantine and I always buy vitro plants which minimise the risk to me
I used guppies to eat planaria and detritus worms. Worked but now I have a $@!# ton of guppies and endlers 😂
Wouldn't the guppies, eat the shrimp ?
Thank you Mark
Informative and to the point, great video.
Nice video! This really helps :)
Thank you CW
I use Z1, works if you act in time, but you cant have snails. If you act late I think the best is restart aquarium. And that is another pro of having small heigh of substrate :D
Well Marck, I'll tell you my way to eradicate planaria and prevernir in a natural way since you know that these chemicals are difficult to eradicate our aquariums. The simplest way you can use is to put about 5 guppys fry in your aquarium to treat or prevent for 7 days, planarias are natural food of peses and they do not attack them, at the end of eradicating planaria you then return to aquarium Of guppys.Saludos
Even guppy fry will kill new born shrimp so they are a no go for most shrimp keepers like myself.
Thank you so much sir, I have this issue I thought this white worm was good I have notice my orange shrimp less every week I think I was killing them.
Just ordered your starter kit can’t wait for it also do you have a in-depth vid for water changes cause I still don’t get it lol
Thank you Brogan it shall be shipped tomorrow, I have some water change videos but I keep on changing my mind on what I want to do..just now I think smaller but frequent water changes are the best,say 5% water change a week and use RO or distilled water for topping up :)
Just got rid of planaria using No Planaria,great product.👍🏽
The only thing you have to watch for is an ammonia spike
Marks Shrimp Tanks yes mark,i kept a close check on ammonia,after the 3 day course i gave a 40% water change,and put some carbon foam in my HOB for a. week to clear the medication,that no planaria even killed the little flea\mite things that i had a few of,,No Planaria.......great stuff.mark i just bought 25 CRS for a nano tank i have,can i email you about some Q's i have as im a newbie to shrimp?
I have Planaria now :( so just need to get rid of them
Planaria are also pretty incredible though; when cut they regenerate so if you cut one in half it would regenerate over a week into 2 Planaria, and if you cut it's head in half it would end up with 2 heads.
They are and I think they get studied a lot in medicine.
like your pitcher plant
I love them ,maybe you watch Brads Greenhouse here on UA-cam too ? he is very good with this kind of stuff.
I just caught hydras, and planaria from a amazon spear I bought at petsmart. I tossed it in one of my tanks without washing it and even said to myself it was stupid.
I used dog de wormer for my planaria. Pancur c I believe it was called. Made a mixture and dosed across 5 days. The next week I couldnt find any planaria in my tank. They've been gone a couple years now.
Im really have a nightmare hydra what shall i do
Interesting! Never had those before but will keep an eye out for them. How do they actually get into the tank? Could be by introducing new plants that are not invitro?
new plants and on anything you buy thats wet from another person.
What is the brand of the higher tank?i have blau aquarist tanks witch looks similar but i dont find any in this size
Hi mark,
Great video as always.
My red cherries birthed a ton of babies this morning, supposed to be rejoicing but instead, i saw a ton of planaria looking worms just coming out fr the substrate.
How much would you suggest dosing the fenbendazole if my tank is only a 16litre tank?
Thanks for the help, i must admit, i am distressed. Dont want to be killing the other berried females and the current fry swimming around my tank.Also they look gross n icky the planaria
Thanks
They talk about the impact on shrimp, does it have the same effect on cray fish? I want to clear out my tank but am concerned about killing the snails and cray fish. I thought about emptying the tank, placing the cray fish and snails in a temporary tank, and boiling the rocks to kill off the worms.
the problem is if you have a lot of snails the Planaria can hitch rides on them so it can be very difficult to get completely rid of them.
Hey Mark I was a little disappointed that I couldn't order shrimp from you due to the distance .I got some Thai micro Crabs and a variety of shrimp from flip aquatics .I just received some shrimp today and I get my other package tomorrow.Do you ship your plants I wAnt to buy one of those big round fluffy subwassertang bushes from you and some nettle mix please let me know and also the ropes you make if so let me know the prices of the items thanks Mark love the show
I dont sell subwassrtang anymore because I dont have enough of it now sorry :(
I am a bit confused.. 1 g of Panacur C treats 100L of water or 10 gallons of water? Is that US gallons btw? Thanks!
Hello Ned, it will be 1g for 100 liters of water 👍
Can I just leave the tank and do water change everyday? I don't have anything in my tank except for plants.
You could ,if you just have plants the planaria would die back anyway or they should do.
Wish I could post pictures of this working in my situation .
bro I saw some worm like a thread waving ....how do I get rid of it.......can I add 1 tetra or 1guppy to eat it from my tank .....but at the same time that the fish eat the shrimplet too?
Thank you! Now I know why most my shrimp died!
hi mark. glad I found this video. I found tiny planaria in my breeder box right after new babies hatched. Planaria were not visible while the shrimps were berried. could worms come from my tank or brought in on my shrimp? I have not seen planaria in my tank till new babies hatched.
Yes they can come in on shrimp and plants and you not see them, if it is planaria I would treat the tank.
which of the products you mentioned would you say is your preferred Mark? I've only ever had to use No Planaria once for an outbreak of hydra and boy it wiped them out fast. I'll always keep a pack of that stuff handy just in case...
I would get the ones made for shrimp first and then as a last resort go for the other ones:)
Marks Shrimp Tanks fair enough Mark and that does make sense:)
Genchem No-Planaria will kil your snails, so move them out if you plan to treat the aquarium.
i have 6 gallon tanks aquarium how many grams should i use?
I do 0.2 grams per 40 liters of water which if you had to do for 6 gallons would be something like 1.1grams
1) Remove all snail from your tank before dosing no planaria. 2) Fill a bucket with tank water and put your snails in there. They are hardy and will survive in there - feed them fish food every day / few days. 3) Dose your tank and remove planaria 4) Wait a month or two before re-introducing your snails. Only add a few snails at a time to see if they survive. If they don't wait another month and try again until it is safe to re-introduce all your snails.
Thanks mark
You are very welcome Sheba :)
Can u use the dog dewormer with shrimp in the tank?
thanks
Always welcome Damion :)
I have a worm outbreak in my shrimp tank.. (over feeding, my bad) .. I freaked out thinking it's planaria.. on further image research realised it's detritus and got to know it's not harmful.. put in two endler guppies.. they don't bother the shrimp but doing a fine job in eating away the worms
They dont bother the shrimp that you are seeing all fish eat shrimp and eventually if you have baby shrimp they will eat them too.
Marks Shrimp Tanks you are absolutely right.. I am moving The guppies tomorrow, they helped to reduce the worms.. I don't have any pregnant shrimps as yet.. by the way setting up my mom's birthday shrimp tank this coming weekend and I am very excited . . Following your advice.. I may upload a video of it, once done will send you the link as you have directed me very well :)
+Anamika Nandy you do that 😊
Hey Mark, love your videos. Wanted to ask how many times should flubendazole (pancur) be dosed for planaria/hydra? Is one dose enough or repeated doses? 0.1g per 10 gallona strength
good question, dose on day 1-3-5 wait two weeks and then add something like active carbon or start doing your water changes like normal. for hydra you can use half the dose and not kill all the snails. 👍
@@MarksShrimpTanks Awesome thanks for the advice 👍. Built a shrimp sex motel yesterday, looks good
I haven't seen baby shrimp in 2 months, hmmmm could that be it? haven't changed anything, had babies before.
You should still see babies even with planaria present.
what type of shrimp do you have ?
Down the Worm Hole I
They are just cherry shrimp, had babies for 7 months and last 2 months been nothing I know at least 2 dropped. had 3 die off after they molted last 2 months as well :(
I think fish eat them
Is there a website where a I sell some of my shrimp?
I'll find something to purchase from you.quick question If java moss is all Yellow and it looks straw hay or dead grass is it completely dead or is it salvageable the pet store in raleigh tried to convince me to buy it for cheap I don't have too much experience with plants but it seemed suspicious to me am I wrong.
ou never know with Java moss , I have had plants I thought were dead and they came back.
?? can I put tangerine tigers, panda's and jellow cheek bee in the same tank and will they cross breed???thanks for all you're great work and contend. god's bless
Yes they will cross ,you will get tangtibee from the tigers and pandas but I dont know what Jello cheek bee is ?
never heard of it before.
So I should use .75 g in a 20 gallon?
wish I saw this before dosing a tank with no planaria that has a nerite snail... but that snail is around 2+ years old and looked like it was already dying before I dosed so if the guy makes it great, if not... rip
Yeah I think Nerites are very sensitive to it as ive dosed some tanks twice last week with ramshorn snails and they havnt died.
I also want to ask what snails can kill the eggs of shrimp my red shrimp have a snal looks like a eardrum and other one is dark gray and multiple like rabbits u had to put killer snails to control them.
assassins will kill shrimp and eat the eggs if thats what you mean ?
@@MarksShrimpTanks now isee why my colon drop so much I take all out now thank you
The dog dewormer doesn't work i have a bad planaria problem i pulled out 20 full sized planaria and put them in a jar with an extra level of dewormer and they been swimming in it for days and they still alive
thats a first ive ever heard of dog dewormer not killing planaria.
I tested it out on planaria in a jar b4 putting it in my tank and they still not dead it's been a week and I made the water milky white with the dewormer they did shrivel up but if u move the water they will start moving around again
If you remove the snails and put them back in later, won't they just have planaria on them and reintroduce it to the tank? I have 3 big yellow rabbit snails in with my shrimp and worry if I remove them and then put them back in after treatment and medicine removal with charcoal, I will just have the same problem again.
yeah I have heard this but I am not sure if its true
Mark , there are alot of planaria types , over a hundred i think , some of them dont have triangular heads :)
In shrimp tanks ?
yes , you can find my friend Gedas St in facebook , he studies planaria . And other shi* like that
In your opinion, when dosing fenbendazole, would it be safer to remove the shrimp (for safety measures) and treat the tank, or better to leave the shrimp in while treating the tank in case they are infected? Also, how long after treating the tank can you introduce the snails back in? I imagine you would have to do several large water changes
You could remove the shrimp but the treatment normally takes 1-2 weeks so its impractical especially with softwater shrimp.. if you run activated carbon in the tank it should be safe for snails after a few days.
Marks Shrimp Tanks thanks for your advice Mark! Your video came just in time. I ordered fenbendazole two days ago to treat planaria in my tank :) you're awesome!
Perfect timing :)
I just set my tank up I have snails in it aswell but my water is still white murky I’ve added the correct bottles for bacteria and for cleansing the water I live in Germany and my water is quite hard so just worndering where I’m going wrong or if I should just wait I’m on day 3 now
Oh you must wait much longer ,I normally wait weeks until all the water perimeters are ok.
Is there anyway I can chat to you like for help
Sure add me on facebook my friend and send me a message :)
I have no panaria does it work with hydra
yes use half dose for hydra
@@MarksShrimpTanks i did and it works thx
Is It an good Idea to put treatment in anyways, If don't see any worm just to prevent them ?
I know breeders that do it but they get alot of new shrimp every month I personally wouldn't do it though.
Marks Shrimp Tanks okay thanks .
I used the fendendazol dog dewormer method killed all the pests accept the dang hydra they survived, so trying to find a way to kill the hydra now
yeah that is styrange bob, normally hydra is half dose on deworming medications.
And how can we get rid of hydra? I have found a lots on the aquarium window
You can use the same stuff,It also kills hydra :)
is it 1 gram or 100mg per 100 litres of water ???
1gram !!!!!!!
thanks, I was a little lost on the info, as the packet i have is 399mg of fenbendazole per 1.8 gram packet and I was trying to be 110% sure how much to use
How do you get the planarians in the first place and is there anything you can do to help prevent it from happening please Mark 😊😊 Anita
They come in on plants ect ,the eggs are tiny as well so you would never see them..quarantine is the way to go to fully stop them and luckily for me my supplier of shrimp deworms all his shrimp when he gets them so I never see them.
Marks Shrimp Tanks thank you for that Mark, most of my plants go into the fish tanks first until I get fed up with them lol, so hopefully they get eaten then. What about moss Mark ???
What about moss ?
Marks Shrimp Tanks can moss carry the eggs 👍🏻
Oh yes anything can carry the eggs,you will find though that stuff that has come from fishstores or people that keep fish the plants will be planaria free because fish eat them.
Can you do a video of the detritus worms?
I can :)
Are you from Shetland or orkney ?
hey mark, fenbendazol is plant safe?
cheers from Brazil ;)
It is, I know a few fish products that have it in it and I dont think any of them carry a warning about plants.
I was curious if you have ever had to treat a tank with No Planaria while baby Trumpet snails where still in your tank? I have tons of babies in my tank and will be unable to remove all of the snails as well as all my CRS . Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Love the videos
Yes I did a long time ago, I removed what I could but you never get them all, the no planaria ether slowly kills them or they survive
Que es esta habitación? Donde tienes la caldera y tal?
This is mainly a washroom for clothes but I have taken it over and made it into my shrimp room :)
Marks Shrimp Tanks oh nice!! Is a beautiful small space! 😊
Mark do they maybe re-grow like a worm when cut in two both half's can grow back becoming two whole worms re snails guys snails will be dead i had a load of nerite snails put no planaria in forgetting nex day all were dead
As far as I know normal worms dont live if you cut them in half ?
How big of a water should be done after dosing?
Just normal water changes
Marks Shrimp Tanks ok thanks
I have read .10gm per 10 gallons for Panacur C..
yeah that is correct, did I say it wrong in the video somewhere?
@@MarksShrimpTanks There is a video on youtube where a guy uses 2 one gram packs in a 20 gallon!!!!! I bet he gets the morphed bodies in his shrimp......... Big difference in 1 gram and .10 grams...
Luckily I have never had planaria. The only parasite I have ever had was a fish lice witch was pretty gross.
fish lice on the eye yum yum lol
I wish they weren't pest, i think they're so cool looking
I actually think they are cool too, like a creature of curiosity :)
Marks Shrimp Tanks i created a little biosphere that i made for theses guys, they feed on water fleas that get to close:)
Can you put the translation in French?
Okay watched the full video, nothing about hydra. Sad you put this in the title without speaking about it
I say in the video it will also kill other parasites so its the same treatment 😂
@@MarksShrimpTanks okay thx 😊!
👍👍👍 nice video Sir jezus fck 😝
WanObi1972 LOL
I lost about 6 subscribers after that video so they must have found it offensive ....I hope they dont own televisions lol
Oi i am sry i wont use it any more then
Seed shrimp I have millions in my tank😓
+Hossam Nashar did you get your refund ? I did do it 😃
Marks Shrimp Tanks Thank you Mark you are the best.