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  • @thenostalgiabusiness
    @thenostalgiabusiness 3 місяці тому +67

    Don't forget that they made it cost 10 energy to restart the quest to try a new champion. Winter of Woe wasn't designed for experimentation and fun; it was designed to be a resource drain.

    • @Derek2k
      @Derek2k 3 місяці тому

      Ok so it’s not just me that gave up on this horsecrap.

  • @SHMOUSEY86
    @SHMOUSEY86 3 місяці тому +73

    It's crazy that we're still earning "Cavalier objective crystals" 3 title releases after cavalier.

    • @grandparicksfirstassistant3386
      @grandparicksfirstassistant3386 3 місяці тому

      Yeah they suck. But they try to drag out the less pro player aspects of the game as long as they can. So when they finally fix it, you're so insanely hyped for it, it seems to be a much bigger deal than it actually is.

    • @SHMOUSEY86
      @SHMOUSEY86 3 місяці тому

      @@grandparicksfirstassistant3386 you literally just described how this is awful game design. Thanks.

  • @dodogamalife4me
    @dodogamalife4me 3 місяці тому +178

    I feel like new content is just generally getting dull. I personally love it when they try to innovate and bring new mechanics to the game like the Grandmaster and Act 8 fights. I also can't stand it when difficult fights boil down to "give this super annoying defender even more annoying nodes and then give them a billion health so that your only hope of beating it is just chucking revives at it".

    • @Armany77777
      @Armany77777 3 місяці тому +8

      especially now that it's nearly impossible to find revives to farm

    • @ThaBolosis
      @ThaBolosis 3 місяці тому +11

      They're clearly trying to make money off us via revives

    • @Liaaa900
      @Liaaa900 3 місяці тому +9

      I thought they were on the up with necropolis because you can solo pretty much every fight in there and it was good content with barely any bs. Winter of woe isn’t fun content

    • @NeilYagley-wb3sr
      @NeilYagley-wb3sr 3 місяці тому +2

      Yep, and they only offer good rewards for the impossible fights. Just not balanced.

    • @crispychikentenderr8020
      @crispychikentenderr8020 3 місяці тому +3

      yeah that's just lazy design and being greedy

  • @juffjaff
    @juffjaff 3 місяці тому +228

    The game should now be called Quantity of Champions.

    • @Armany77777
      @Armany77777 3 місяці тому +3

      hahaha good one😂

    • @pepperextr3me605
      @pepperextr3me605 3 місяці тому +13

      Quantity of *revives*

    • @slackstarfish8133
      @slackstarfish8133 3 місяці тому +2

      @@pepperextr3me605I have absolutely no revives

    • @thatguywhoisnotoverthere9117
      @thatguywhoisnotoverthere9117 3 місяці тому

      same @@slackstarfish8133

    • @dexter2898
      @dexter2898 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@pepperextr3me605can't even power through that bs fight most of the times cus of the regen. They made even revives useless lmao 😭

  • @maxwellshames
    @maxwellshames 3 місяці тому +66

    My biggest issue is their attitude, reminds me of my Ex, they never admit they are wrong unless something doesn't benefit them or will affect them, very selfish and self righteous voices being echoed through Jax and Mike and it's obvious.
    "We're listening to feedback 🤪" whilst also admitting they DON'T want players to solo this 🤣

    • @vedprakashsahu4697
      @vedprakashsahu4697 3 місяці тому +16

      Miike is a man who should be working at something like a small firm or Shop, where he either learns to behave or gets the short end. He doesn't belong at a position that speaks for a company, and the company can't bother to fix his behaviour

    • @prathamkambli7390
      @prathamkambli7390 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@vedprakashsahu4697 I completely agree. Kabam Mike has the worst attitude.

  • @prez823
    @prez823 3 місяці тому +91

    What has frustrated me more than the content for the last 6+ months is inputs and ai. I’ve been playing since literally it first came out, and I have never felt the complete lack of control over literally any fight that I do right now. They want you to intercept, but now opponents light intercept or backdraft intercept you. They want you to be fast in BGs, but opponents will refuse to throw out a dash and specials for a whole minute. Block, dash and dex inputs are not consistently registering and I just stand there and take a hit to the face or lose my fight tempo. I know I am a better player now then I used to be, but I feel like I haven’t really been able to improve in the last few months because the game is actively teaching me right now: “do not take any risks because you will lose 9 times out of 10.”

    • @LordShane99
      @LordShane99 3 місяці тому +11

      This is really well said man. I feel it explains how a lot are feeling. I've been playing 7 years and I thought finally I've gotten to where I want to be skill wise and roster wise but I feel like last 6 months I'm dying way more and even though you know it's from ai and not lack of skill it still makes you feel shit.

    • @mitchwelliver2951
      @mitchwelliver2951 3 місяці тому +1

      Launch day feels like a lifetime ago, and for as simple as the game was, it was so much more enjoyable back then.

    • @StairwaySlammer
      @StairwaySlammer 3 місяці тому +5

      Holy shit I thought I was the only one. Literally feels like the AI is reading my inputs the majority of the time as opposed to me reacting to theirs

    • @mitchelherald3271
      @mitchelherald3271 3 місяці тому +3

      💯
      Well stated. It’s impossible to enjoy this game right now because of the AI alone. That’s before you even consider the cheap defenders they’re creating now or the absurd node combinations on a fight like Abs Man.
      I don’t mind the idea that not all content is meant for me…but the only rewards I am interested in right now are locked behind getting all the points in this event. And, I just don’t think it’s worth the frustration at this point. For the first time since I actually got to a level that I could do it, I am seriously considering skipping this new content.
      Seatin said it best. The focus has to be making FUN content. I have enjoyed Act 7 and 8. Yet, they have decided to cut that in half, so clearly that’s not where they’re looking to put time and effort.

    • @danielngandu8656
      @danielngandu8656 Місяць тому

      Dude, spot on spot on!!! The Ai Sucks Hairy Fuzzy balls!

  • @edwinaguirre4934
    @edwinaguirre4934 3 місяці тому +87

    January was a rough month just because of Bullseye. They keep making new defenders that change the mentality of the player from "Oh I see my mistake, need to play better" to "Gotta do it before the nodes kill me" and using like 10 revives to pass through it.

    • @tekepenguin1981
      @tekepenguin1981 3 місяці тому +17

      Yea, they have turned the game into a revive fest and removed the ability to farm revives. Gotta milk this community for all its worth before they close the servers.

    • @MrBastianLeo
      @MrBastianLeo 3 місяці тому +2

      ⁠@@tekepenguin1981it’s just a matter of time before they close the servers. At the current state of game, those bugs, bias challenges, it’s chasing players off. I just couldn’t expect the day whereby they launch 8*.

    • @BrandonGavin_EDC
      @BrandonGavin_EDC 3 місяці тому

      100%

    • @BrandonGavin_EDC
      @BrandonGavin_EDC 3 місяці тому

      @@tekepenguin1981yeah it’s total BS. Just BS mechanics to get revives and of course they took revives away and act like 1 a day is fine.

    • @Z4NKA1
      @Z4NKA1 3 місяці тому

      @@MrBastianLeo how many players are left?

  • @Omaal8x
    @Omaal8x 3 місяці тому +258

    I expected a hard fight but not this BS, this fight isn’t fun at all

    • @tekepenguin1981
      @tekepenguin1981 3 місяці тому

      It's like a bunch of Virgin nerds setting around deviously planning the communities demise is their only enjoyment.

    • @theflyingdutchguy9870
      @theflyingdutchguy9870 3 місяці тому +29

      jup. i spend like 10 revives getting to 36% with she hulk. and 3 fights later he was back up to like 60%. i just quit. dont care anymore

    • @cloudstrikkee1263
      @cloudstrikkee1263 3 місяці тому +23

      @@theflyingdutchguy9870And also the fact it’s 10 fucking energy so you can’t even practice to get the hang. I was in the same boat as you. Got him done to 50% with she hulk then the bastard wouldn’t throw his special even when I had 30 furies so he regend back up and I lost all my damage

    • @Laflame-jb7km
      @Laflame-jb7km 3 місяці тому +1

      U got what u expected

    • @jordan4835
      @jordan4835 3 місяці тому +2

      I cleared it in one fight with quicksilver😅

  • @tekepenguin1981
    @tekepenguin1981 3 місяці тому +94

    The worst thing for me currently is how devalued I feel as Paragon player. The offers basically feel like a giant middle finger. The lack of options to PLAY THE GAME and advance as opposed to SPEND and advance is killing me. Kabams constant grip has squeezed me dry.

    • @AndrewH1994
      @AndrewH1994 3 місяці тому +4

      felt the same at some of the earlier milestones for offers like Cavalier. freaking ridiculous how bad they make the slightly outdated rank. That, and the increasing roster, with no consistent way to save up for a specific champion literally made me quit over a year ago.
      I just came to this video to see how things were doing, and it was on my recommended page

    • @dexter2898
      @dexter2898 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AndrewH1994what valiants get: titan crystal, tons of t6cc. What paragons get: some t6b and t3a and piece of useless trophy champ (but only in case they do every single objective)

  • @helpimblind
    @helpimblind 3 місяці тому +54

    Sadly I've stopped doing a few things I used to do. BGs I stopped because it became too stressful and it felt like a more sophisticated version of arena. I'm tired of Everest content as you either need to buy units or grind for days which isn't fun. Raids was terrible. And the last EOP was so terrible with the AI that I was hesitant to do this one. After a few tries (plus the energy cost) makes me think: Yeah, the rewards are good, but at the end of the day the point of playing a game is to have fun. If the game doesn't fulfil its primary purpose to you, then it's not worth playing.

  • @GrizlyWizard
    @GrizlyWizard 3 місяці тому +49

    All that really matters to Kabam is the top 1% of players. As long as they keep spending money, Kabam will keeping on Kabaming. It's what happens when a very small percentage of players are responsible for a very large percentage of revenue.

    • @kremerm6139
      @kremerm6139 3 місяці тому

      Not everyone at the top of the game spends a lot of money on it. Some grind

    • @vodexi7384
      @vodexi7384 3 місяці тому

      @@kremerm6139yea sure buddy believe in that. They are whaleing out+grinding that’s how they keep up on top

    • @snakeoo38
      @snakeoo38 3 місяці тому

      missed his point there@@kremerm6139

    • @alankenny4308
      @alankenny4308 3 місяці тому +3

      and without the other 99%, the game wouldn't exist

  • @mprimer92
    @mprimer92 3 місяці тому +254

    Been playing religiously for 9 years now. Never have I been so disinterested in MCOC as I am currently.

    • @ivanknezovic3654
      @ivanknezovic3654 3 місяці тому +10

      Same here.

    • @Armany77777
      @Armany77777 3 місяці тому +23

      If I didn't know better I would think kabam is deliberately trying to take the fun out of the game 😂

    • @alyn4uify
      @alyn4uify 3 місяці тому +1

      Same here!

    • @stephanw1034
      @stephanw1034 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm in the same spot as well.

    • @77RONZO
      @77RONZO 3 місяці тому +1

      Same

  • @restlessrussells
    @restlessrussells 3 місяці тому +23

    Yeah I lost all motivation a few weeks ago, I found myself only logging in to get the calendar rewards and sell expiring items. I had zero drive to do any content. 2 weeks ago I finally deleted the game after playing since 2016 and I don’t miss it.

    • @ChaiTeaLatte9
      @ChaiTeaLatte9 3 місяці тому +7

      Agreed. I have been playing for 7+ years - I have lost count, and embarssingly don't need to know lol. But I have been also wanting to quit, but am in an alliance with a few good mates I've met through this. So unwillingly continuing because of them. I'm reaching my limit though. I'm FTP Paragon currently and just have hate the 7* and Valiant introduction into the game.

    • @restlessrussells
      @restlessrussells 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ChaiTeaLatte9 try taking a small break. Might even help revive the fun this game use to bring. I doubt it but maybe 😂 it became not fun anymore for me.

    • @ChaiTeaLatte9
      @ChaiTeaLatte9 3 місяці тому +5

      @@restlessrussells If I take a small break, I'll never return haha. I hate this game. It's more just a chore/obligation haha. Starting to play Black Clover Mobile and I love that one. Don't want to waste my time playing MCOC anymore. But again, I like my alliance mates - unfortunately lol

    • @infectiwan4896
      @infectiwan4896 3 місяці тому +3

      I have uninstalled the game as well, this ABS man is such an unfun and shit fight, wasted like 20+ revives trying to kill him with my 5* ascended hulk because it’s my best option… FUCK THIS GAME. He kept healing and I lost progress every single fight, bs. I hope this game dies.

    • @ChaiTeaLatte9
      @ChaiTeaLatte9 3 місяці тому +3

      @@infectiwan4896 Agreed. They don't deserve to keep profitting off us lol. Also if the game dies I can finally stop playing lol. Not sure if my alliance leader will ever stop unless it does, and I'm loyal to a fault hahaha

  • @jacobmcmullin4514
    @jacobmcmullin4514 3 місяці тому +11

    You hit the nail on the head with just because we are paragon or valiant doesn’t mean we are the best of the best (skill wise)

  • @tekepenguin1981
    @tekepenguin1981 3 місяці тому +23

    I would love to have an enjoyable reason to log in daily. The loop of AW,AQ,EQ,SQ, grind only being broken up by insanely difficult content, is not an fun trend.

    • @Juggernautmcoc
      @Juggernautmcoc 3 місяці тому +2

      Very true and don’t forget to add raids, incursions, BG, and if you have the patience arena. Kabam heard that some players wanted more difficult content sure make that a separate objective not locked behind good rewards. It’s hard finding time for a break between all of these being in alliance.

  • @Hoodless_vergeking
    @Hoodless_vergeking 3 місяці тому +29

    Endgame content like this needs to be made fun instead of tedious

  • @sethpenney4593
    @sethpenney4593 3 місяці тому +66

    Here's the TLDR: Yes

  • @davidgoldstein5400
    @davidgoldstein5400 3 місяці тому +13

    The perfect example: Eternity of Pain - Acceptance Grief Incarnate. Difficult content for end-game sweaty players and all you get is 1 gold and an exclusive profile picture. That is how all super difficult and niche content should reward players with going forward.

  • @user-di8sk7qz4o
    @user-di8sk7qz4o 3 місяці тому +27

    the most BS part is if u use sandman and didn’t finish him in one fight, he will recover like 30-40%back before you can drop sp2 in the next fight.

  • @powpow48
    @powpow48 3 місяці тому +20

    Thank you for being the voice of the people!

  • @skillfulstar
    @skillfulstar 3 місяці тому +27

    You know whats the worst? At least for paragon that is,you need to finish every single boss and every single objective to obtain the groot piece since that piece is the cutoff for rewards for paragon. If you're paragon and care about the deathless champs then screw you you're doing all the objectives otherwise prepare to pay 5000 units....if you're valiant and only care about the piece at least you can ignore some of the objectives and you'll still be fine....kabam saying screw you to all paragons.....

    • @vedprakashsahu4697
      @vedprakashsahu4697 3 місяці тому +5

      It's like we are more tight and pressured to do everything 100% while getting less rewards than Valiant. The count of adding deathless piece in EOP was bad enough, but to have it at the max milestone is a pure middle finger

  • @Tony-zj8ys
    @Tony-zj8ys 3 місяці тому +14

    Why Kabam hasn’t hired you and BG is beyond me. There are other YT’s that have great insights but your points/suggestions are what I think most of us want for this game. We want a fun enjoyable experience and kabam has struggled as of late. .. great video!

    • @damnblam3760
      @damnblam3760 3 місяці тому +2

      They don't want anything Pro player, if they hired these guys we would have a balance between players and the company being treated fairly and good, Kabam is an extremely scummy company and their decisions show they want to have all the power.
      Anything that the players can use to help them progress even a bit faster? It will be immediately destroyed, if a single dollar is lost they would go mad and look for reasons why whereas if the players are having issues it will take a while before they even acknowledge it.

  • @manuelsanchez5028
    @manuelsanchez5028 3 місяці тому +22

    Fighting Bullseye got old really fast, usually I complete multiple difficulties but I was full with Cavalier this time.

  • @bradyeates
    @bradyeates 3 місяці тому +10

    I am Valiant. I have a large roster. I'm not a great player. I would love to use more of my roster and play different champions. All of these kinds of challenges force you into using or needing one or two specific champions. I just want to have fun and play with a bunch of different champions. Even the Event Quest every month seems to require the same handful of champions. The only time I get to play my full roster is in the arena, which is only enjoyable on occasion.

  • @gamehunter6281
    @gamehunter6281 3 місяці тому +16

    the definition of game and the pleasure of playing, has been separated for many years in mcoc!

  • @dannycody1868
    @dannycody1868 3 місяці тому +26

    At this point, I still play however it’s just a habit for me. I don’t care enough anymore to play any of this die, revive, die, revive stuff like Necropolis, Winter of Woe etc. I don’t spend anymore and havnt in a long time. Like I said MCOC is just a habit for me nowdays. I honestly could not care less if they announced tomorrow that they are shutting down the servers.

    • @Liaaa900
      @Liaaa900 3 місяці тому +1

      Necropolis was fully skill based and I’ve soloed like half the fights with Kate. Putting that in the same level of Necro is silly. Necro was good content

    • @lewisthellama2569
      @lewisthellama2569 3 місяці тому +1

      Me too! I find the game way more enjoyable that way as well. Battlegrounds is good too.😊

    • @damnblam3760
      @damnblam3760 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Liaaa900 Which fights did you solo with Kate?

    • @johnjones4121
      @johnjones4121 3 місяці тому

      @@damnblam3760none he’s lying

  • @charleswalls1127
    @charleswalls1127 3 місяці тому +11

    it's definitely more about how they can screw you and less about being fun. every champ has unavoidable damage. complete bs.

  • @pikapika3
    @pikapika3 3 місяці тому +12

    i like how kabam release hard defenders who have only several great counters, then also release content with limited amount of options that 90% of them are garbage against that boss.

  • @Dlayman421
    @Dlayman421 3 місяці тому +4

    Not to mention the 10 energy cost per attempt. It doesn't even give you the opportunity to master the fight without burning refills. You can't have a cost to something so difficult to learn. Kabam needs to stop making fights so dependent on AI cooperation that they clearly can't control

  • @PooseUnpoos3
    @PooseUnpoos3 3 місяці тому +13

    I got the revive and potion bundle for 500 units in the store the other day and as a paragon player I think I should use those resources instead for 100% Necropolis. Wasting them all on this winter of woe doesn’t make sense to me

    • @Juggernautmcoc
      @Juggernautmcoc 3 місяці тому +1

      You’ll need more revives than that

    • @PooseUnpoos3
      @PooseUnpoos3 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JuggernautmcocI have a lot already saved up and bought the deal 5 out of 5 times

    • @damnblam3760
      @damnblam3760 3 місяці тому

      Im doing this too, use it for Necro, you will get a titan crystal, a r3 to help for valiant and a champ of your choice.

  • @djcowell91
    @djcowell91 3 місяці тому +10

    Yes. The complexity has grown too high with more complicated champs and combinations of nodes everywhere. Maybe I'm just old, but I miss the first four years of the game...

  • @sporostuw9767
    @sporostuw9767 3 місяці тому +8

    Kascam node 2030: for every 10 revives you spend the defender loses 1% hp (puting 10 awakened Nick Furys in a path)
    New packs 1$ per revive

  • @kissass6254
    @kissass6254 3 місяці тому +5

    The main problem is they keep adding new content for the highest progression level if you aren’t that level your stuck with boring event quest stuck with not so good rewards and most of the time boring side quests like last months side quest I did all paths and this one had pretty good rewards but I wasn’t able to do the level 5 challenges all because of progression level but there’s too much content for me to focus on if I want to do alliance war and quest event and side quest battlegrounds and story progression it’s just too much

  • @Palayedeuhm
    @Palayedeuhm 3 місяці тому +10

    They fumbled with this boss on the robot objective specifically. I personally felt attacked with that one

    • @zircanti8218
      @zircanti8218 3 місяці тому +2

      The robot challenge is legitimately a slap in the face to everyone

    • @Palayedeuhm
      @Palayedeuhm 3 місяці тому

      @@zircanti8218 true

  • @Bkaranja55
    @Bkaranja55 3 місяці тому +9

    The fun was out the window like 3 years ago when lag and bugs ran amock, and then they introduced all these BS defender champs who turn off masteries like Dex and willpower

    • @Jak-mcoc
      @Jak-mcoc 3 місяці тому

      Wil power is okay the dexterity is just not okay

  •  3 місяці тому +4

    Very well said Seatin. I also feel like the fun is missing from content now. Also with the death of farming… the game feels like a way to squeeze money out of players only. I feel Like the content creators are designing the game specifically to be profitable only, without caring about making the game fun or interesting. Too bad too, this used to be one of my favorite all time games. Now I find myself completely uninterested.

  • @SHMOUSEY86
    @SHMOUSEY86 3 місяці тому +4

    One big thing they should really bring back is Variant content. They claim that they have no idea how to modernize the content, but the answer is as simple as it was when Variant content came out.
    All they'd have to do is just make a new difficulty and slap a new name on it. Literally the exact same thing they did to reintroduce the back issues to the game, but gives us 8 decent sized quests to enjoy and explore, while also getting solid rewards for where we're at in the game today.

  • @Poolhead100
    @Poolhead100 3 місяці тому +9

    I’m a valiant player with 3 r3 7*,s yes I’m a small whale I buy most deals that progress my account but this challenge as gotten me seriously thinking of cutting my losses and quitting the game
    Yes I can spend to get though but like you said what is the fun in that

  • @SHMOUSEY86
    @SHMOUSEY86 3 місяці тому +7

    8.3 in my opinion is the single best piece of permanent content that Kabam has introduced. They need to look to 8.3 and chapter 8 in general as an example for other content.

    • @samtl
      @samtl 3 місяці тому +1

      8.3 was far too easy imo

    • @damnblam3760
      @damnblam3760 3 місяці тому

      ​@@samtlGood, it makes up for the crap they pulled after.
      I want balanced content too but they're clearly incapable, Ai camping in the corner, ridiculous nodes, purposely putting a high energy requirement because they admitted they don't want us to practise?
      Then I'll gladly take advantage of their content that they made too easy 🤷🏻‍♂️
      I'm sorry but I hope 8.4 is ridiculously easy too and hearing the feedback I think it is. We can't expect fairness from a company that doesn't want to play fair.

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 3 місяці тому +7

    I just think this game thrives in its questing content. They need to keep adding new stuff in the game because the act 8 bosses have genuinely been really fun. I like when the game is based on understanding unique nodes, not damage numbers, fun and interactive damage, and health pools. I think their main problem is they make objectives way too niche. There either needs to be way more tag and champ options or no requirements at all. Dont force people to use champs that you know are awful counters. Maybe just make them kill bosses and complete quests multiple times. That would be fine.

  • @Adzy2k1
    @Adzy2k1 3 місяці тому +8

    They even pretty much admitted they want people to use resources 😂

  • @lewis213b7
    @lewis213b7 3 місяці тому +5

    Problem with kabam they can never find middle ground content is either too annoying where you have to grind units and revives for good rewards or it’s way too easy and no fun

  • @NEWMAN0067
    @NEWMAN0067 3 місяці тому +5

    Putting the KG piece as the final para teir is the most messed up thing.

  • @emngaiden
    @emngaiden 3 місяці тому +4

    The moment I see that a new defender has an anti-Willpower ability, I know that I'll not have any fun in that fight

  • @Undead-Bonehead
    @Undead-Bonehead 3 місяці тому +6

    The fun content used to be variants for me, they should bring them back, make the rewards relevant, 7* 1-2 materials and 6* 4-5 materials

    • @datbusinessman3765
      @datbusinessman3765 3 місяці тому +1

      They said it’s on their radar but it’s hard to make them relevant when the rewards get outdated quickly or something along those lines

  • @OldManEasy
    @OldManEasy 3 місяці тому +7

    at the very least, let's not charge us 10 energy for each try. That gets expensive very fast.
    A lot of champions already have defensive abilities in their kit. Adding just a few nodes should be more than enough.
    Imagine fighting Bullseye with the bane node, trying to bait his sp 1, and watching your health ticks away. Yikes

    • @damnblam3760
      @damnblam3760 3 місяці тому

      They said they don't want us to practise, they want us to waste our energy and are fully aware of how much the players are suffering because of it.

  • @SnakeEaterGaming
    @SnakeEaterGaming 3 місяці тому +2

    2024 and seatin is still a man of the people. biggest mcoc content creator and he is always there to be the voice of the community. truly a man of legends.

  • @cleattle
    @cleattle 3 місяці тому +2

    My biggest issue is the ai. I don’t enjoy playing against it anymore. The back draft intercepts, light intercepts, weird hesitations that lead to you taking block damage because it’s hard to get parties all lead to a hesistant more reactionary play style that I don’t enjoy.

  • @cmbjive
    @cmbjive 3 місяці тому +11

    My frustration is that the Abs Man fight has so much anti-player BS. Unstoppable, excessive healing, Brute Force, snake-oil AI, deep HP pool, and damage reduction. It all sucks. I spent 2,000 units and some of my crystals and I still did not get him below 80% when I attempted the Robot challenge.

  • @djc1231000
    @djc1231000 3 місяці тому +3

    This goes totally against what they said on why they had to nerf revive farming. They just want us to spend. And I agree 1000000% with everything you said. I feel like they are actually trying their hardest to make us all quit the game lol

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13 3 місяці тому +2

    Our raid charges disappeared halfway through ultron, causing us not to be able to clear after many spent considerably to get there

  • @thomassbailo8989
    @thomassbailo8989 3 місяці тому +2

    Everything in the game has been to Grindy and the nodes take the longest to comprehend and read then to find the right champ.the quality of life is being ignored by kabam and this fight is an example of it. It’s ridiculous how many nodes they try to stuff in a single fight and the health pool is insane thank you for speaking up.

  • @markmartin5817
    @markmartin5817 3 місяці тому +7

    I don’t plan on doing it. 5k for a deathless KGroot shard sounds more efficient then revive spamming 3 months of content.

    • @blackhole5353.
      @blackhole5353. 3 місяці тому +1

      Do we know if we can miss an objectives or two can and still get the KG piece or do we need to do all objectives as a paragon player?

    • @akiravrz8639
      @akiravrz8639 3 місяці тому

      ​All unless you complete robot champ objective this week. In that case, you can miss 1​@@blackhole5353.

    • @omerzeevi8569
      @omerzeevi8569 3 місяці тому

      @@blackhole5353.paragon player need to do every objective, valiant can only do some tho and still get the piece

  • @Abdi-wf5mt
    @Abdi-wf5mt 3 місяці тому +8

    8.4 will revive the game again for some time

    • @Angelhunter-ig2dg
      @Angelhunter-ig2dg 3 місяці тому +4

      I'm personally not spending any items on the new EOP type content. Saving all of it for 8.4 exploration

    • @Bobby_30
      @Bobby_30 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed

  • @mitchellhedges711
    @mitchellhedges711 3 місяці тому +2

    Kabam has prioritized resource draining fights & events, promoted & showcased by end game UA-camrs who hammer home the “it’s ok to not solo the fight, don’t feel bad or worry” 😂
    props & respect for actually calling attention to the recent ridiculousness. These ppl need to play a different game & remember what fun actually feels like.

  • @DUNKIN_DEAN
    @DUNKIN_DEAN 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m glad you’re still out there, looking out for the community. Thanks!

  • @MeanOldCuss
    @MeanOldCuss 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for speaking up on this, and I hope the devs can put their egos aside for once to actually hear and do something about it. 9 year Paragon player here and I’ve never felt so unmotivated and frustrated with the direction this game has taken in the last 2-3 months. It’s started to feel like a second job, which isn’t (or shouldn’t be) the point.

  • @cogster6476
    @cogster6476 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve decided to quit after playing from day 1. Just cannot be bothered investing time for AW, AQ, Bgs then stupid WOP and then story content and EQ. Enough is enough. 😢

  • @tconn186
    @tconn186 3 місяці тому +3

    8:15. Can confirm, dreams are crushed

  • @alanmichaeldill
    @alanmichaeldill 3 місяці тому +3

    Necropolis was very fun. This fight is just so annoying

  • @rikerfrost7667
    @rikerfrost7667 3 місяці тому +2

    The problem is that they gatekeep great rewards behind having very spcific characters ranked up. Even if I was to do every Winter of Woe objective, the amount of resources I would have to spend for that would ultimately leave me in the same position that I started at, only now I've ranked up a bunch of characters that I'll never use again due to them being worse than other characters, or just not fun to play.

  • @alvarez321
    @alvarez321 3 місяці тому +3

    I stopped playing consistanly a few months ago. Honestly don't miss it. I still log in every day to collect the daily rewards, but overall the game feels to boring to play

  • @Shibby11_
    @Shibby11_ 3 місяці тому +3

    I expected a hard fight but the energy cost is ridiculous. That really takes all the fun out of it, cs it’s so expensive to even attempt that makes me not even want to bother. I love battlegrounds and I can’t do both cs the energy cost is so great for winter of woe.

  • @darkking4748
    @darkking4748 3 місяці тому +2

    I also think the big problem is the objectives. I'm sure there are many fun counters to this boss but you can't use them because they're not the objective. I think they just need to use less restrictive tags so that you can actually use champions that aren't normally used

  • @raul88.88
    @raul88.88 3 місяці тому +2

    I think if they'd remove 1 or 2 node buffs from the opponent, it would he more enjoyable

  • @AllisonEdits
    @AllisonEdits 3 місяці тому +1

    The bugs is what broke me, not the actual fight

  • @tantheman0921
    @tantheman0921 3 місяці тому +3

    Yeah, I think after pushing to Paragon in October of last year, I've been taking it slow but last months side event was so hard for me.

  • @theshinydome1992
    @theshinydome1992 3 місяці тому +2

    I think you've nailed it in this video.
    I'm also not the best player lol, but I have a decent sized account. This has been so frustrating and I have zero desire to do more of it.
    I'll be starting a masters program this year and have already considered stopping after 8.4, and this had kind of sold that for me. I'm not having fun, and there's no point to playing if it's not fun.

  • @pbnjelly99
    @pbnjelly99 3 місяці тому +1

    Just notified my alliance leader yesterday " I'm done, the game just isn't fun anymore ". Glad to hear I'm not the only one that feels this way. Thanks for the video dude ❤

  • @darkking4748
    @darkking4748 3 місяці тому +2

    Also remember 12.0 update when they said regen wouldn't scale with nodes anymore. Yea kabam doesn't

  • @habitataudio
    @habitataudio 3 місяці тому +1

    I couldn’t agree more. I went from being really excited about the game, playing tier 1 wars and loving it, to retiring. It’s just lost the fun with all of these blatant money grabs from Kabam. It started for me with the intro of the current war tactic and Kabam’s view that it was intended to be that difficult. It’s a sign that Kabam is trying to normalize high cost fights and game modes.

  • @guimanara
    @guimanara 3 місяці тому

    Right on target. Your words describe what the vast majority of the community feels at this point in game. Thanks for speaking out. You’re a legend mate

  • @Stormbreaker3
    @Stormbreaker3 3 місяці тому +2

    For a gaming company they sure do lack the most fundamental aspect. That being making a game fun. Their mission statement is “F U pay me”

  • @bossmansmeagzog8048
    @bossmansmeagzog8048 3 місяці тому +2

    They literally took something i loved in sop and eop and turned it into something i hate. The fight just feels cheap. Like you said, it’s just not fun. The energy cost is just the icing on the cake. Also, i completely agree about content in general. There is just nothing normal and fun anymore. I literally play rol for fun half the time because its the only place you can just have fun playing a champ without having time worry about a billion nodes and interactions. It’s the same with battlegrounds. There are just too many nodes and too many things you have to memorize and it just feels like work and not fun.

  • @Ramgaruda
    @Ramgaruda 3 місяці тому +3

    I use to play p1 aw now doing g1. Lost all interest in the game. Thanks for speaking our mind seatin

  • @KrisKronk
    @KrisKronk 3 місяці тому +1

    I have to agree with this. I started a second account a little while back and its been a fun road getting this up to TB. When I first fought Grandmaster on my main, it was absolute torture, when I revisited this fight a few years later on the Alt, it was an absolutely fun fight. In fact, revisiting some of the older content on the alt, vs the new stuff for my main, you start to see the divide in enjoyment and focus on spending. I have not lost complete interest in MCOC, but definitely the drive to care about new, sweaty content. It also does not help FTP or middling players, to now have revives be drip fed. In the past getting together 20 revives was no issue, now you gotta really scrounge for that. Guides are saying play Necro with 100+ revives. Without blowing through cash, where does one now go? And also, the fact we need that many revives on average is a very telling piece of info. Fun, engaging, challenging and achievable content is so necessary for the future of this game. That said, BG's started as fun, now even that has become a grindy chore. I don't know what the game design needs to do, but perhaps listening to players such as yourself who echo the feelings of so many others, will be key.

  • @badmerr6758
    @badmerr6758 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ve been losing interest in the game lately too…
    What really threw me off was when I figured out the node from last season’s BG & was winning constantly, they changed the nodes halfway through the season which made me lose all interest on BG afterwards & I’ve only logged on to collect the rewards & use up energy on things like auto ISO or Catalysts

  • @Unhandled38
    @Unhandled38 3 місяці тому +1

    After they put an end to revive farming too, convenient isn’t it

  • @willjackson3597
    @willjackson3597 3 місяці тому +3

    I’ve not had fun playing this game in ages have everything to become paragon but I stay cavalier because nothing they add interests me, I should probably quit but I’ve spent money so I feel like I can’t

  • @Syndicated1227
    @Syndicated1227 3 місяці тому +2

    As a Valiant player, without a Sandman or Shocker champs, i got wrecked this week, incredible how kabam creates a monster and create a totally limited list of counters of Absorbing...

    • @weic4680
      @weic4680 3 місяці тому

      Same man, did u attempt the valiant objective?

    • @Syndicated1227
      @Syndicated1227 3 місяці тому

      @@weic4680 i Will try with 5* sandman or shocker but Will be a revive grab

    • @weic4680
      @weic4680 3 місяці тому

      I dont even have 5 star versions of them 😔 helppp

  • @joshuaplough1902
    @joshuaplough1902 3 місяці тому +2

    Seatin, you hit that nail right on the head! Great video. Plain and simple its not rewarding enough and not fun. Becoming to frustrating than anything.

  • @DanMartins1206
    @DanMartins1206 3 місяці тому +1

    Completely agree with you.
    I have been playing the game for 9 years, and I quit last december. I think I´m not the only one who feels that the game has reached its peak for average players, such as myself.
    I used to think the game was for everyone, back when we had 60 champs and 5stars where difficult to get. Now that we have +250 champs and 7 stars can be bought with even more money than before, is very difficult for an average player to feel included.
    I don't think I have spent more than 100 USD during these 9 years, all things considered (lifestyle, personal projects, currency exchange, and so on), and with real effort and fun commitment I became paragon.
    Now it feels like a job, where I need to put not only the time but also the money. Now it feels is not for everyone. It doesn't feel like a fun commitment anymore. It's more like a side job that does not pay at all for the amount of time we invest.
    Yes, it's a business and they need (and want) all the money they can get. I just hope they know what they´re doing, prioritizing certain players (moneywise). It will be interesting to have the data on how many people play the game, and how much they have spent.
    As my family says: "El tiempo perdido, los santos lo lloran" - "Lost time, saints mourn". I don´t have time to lose on this, anymore. Is not worth it.

  • @datedwizard989
    @datedwizard989 3 місяці тому +2

    Since the release of 7* I’ve just not cared. You’re forced to either whale or do all the endgame content (or both) otherwise you miss out. All while they nerfed revive farming into the ground & make fights like woe abs.

  • @JonasGegembauer1
    @JonasGegembauer1 3 місяці тому

    Very good mate. Thanks for voicing what a big chunk of the community is feeling!

  • @crispychikentenderr8020
    @crispychikentenderr8020 3 місяці тому

    i miss old boss rush quests and celebrity challenges. they were hard but not unforgiving kind of hard, and the rewards were very good and we didn't have to wait for a long time.

  • @brosky5578
    @brosky5578 3 місяці тому

    introducing 7 stars before really maxing 6 stars is what did it for me

  • @EffinGuy
    @EffinGuy 3 місяці тому

    I am finding old content like Variants at my level to be fun and challenging with less stress

  • @starwarstairique
    @starwarstairique 3 місяці тому +2

    They think every player is a whale and that we spend hundreds of irl money on resources that Kabam can strip from us with content made to do so unfairly. These new characters and content aren’t made for skill, it’s made to rinse our units and revives…

  • @1711HD
    @1711HD 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey! I just recently became legend in the game and I am happy quite pleased with that but the thing is now many players are able to get free 5 stars or 6 stars in calendars and also event quests which means these kind of titles aren’t that hard to get you just need to put a significant amount of time in it.

  • @petea8481
    @petea8481 3 місяці тому +1

    I looked at the nodes and wondered if I should even bother. I'm 100% necropolis and that was fun.

  • @darkking4748
    @darkking4748 3 місяці тому +2

    I stopped playing halfway thru january. Logged back in for the winter of woe fight. Lost 5 times. Then closed the app. Game just isnt' that fun for me currently.

  • @lightoos8409
    @lightoos8409 3 місяці тому

    Moon night variant was one of best content where we used 1* 2* 3* 4* 5*..we need content like that

  • @adammiller7218
    @adammiller7218 3 місяці тому

    The best example of a fun and challenging fight I can think of is the collector.

  • @jozefchudik6612
    @jozefchudik6612 3 місяці тому +1

    The man the myth the legend is speaking from the heart again.
    Very well said and people don't forget that you will have to fight the players that will get the top rewards in BGs with the lovely AI and controls that we have 🙂

  • @towerofpower3980
    @towerofpower3980 3 місяці тому

    Couldn't agree more, Seatin. Even the boss fights to get different story progressions are a little ridiculous. You said it perfectly. Make it fun, not impossible. I also don't like how they penalize you now for not bringing the right class champs to each of the six parts of the monthly event quests. We used to be able to use the synergies we wanted and with whatever class we wanted.

  • @user-fi1jb4oe1n
    @user-fi1jb4oe1n 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely nailed the sentiment with this vid. Also where you have a game that’s got a lot of bugs at present and you demand perfect play e.g. you heavy counter the SP1 and it light or mediums for no reason it’s going to enrage people.

  • @nounxyz
    @nounxyz 3 місяці тому +3

    Just become a boring puzzle game rather than a fighting game like tekken. Can’t be bothered to put in all the study, hard work and spending required to be successful.

  • @orzosobjective386
    @orzosobjective386 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for talking about this! I am in the same boat. You are the goat brotha

  • @giantwalrus2828
    @giantwalrus2828 3 місяці тому +1

    Kabam's 1st mistake, imo, was the extreme devaluation of story content. Now, it's an item/unit sink to get the top tier rewards. As you mentioned, 250+ champions & to complete the objectives, there's a total of 7, maybe 8. Where's the fun in that? Make it difficult, make it challenging, but at least give some better tools. Feel like I'm digging for gold with a childs plastic toy shovel

  • @yours_truely
    @yours_truely 3 місяці тому +1

    Even EQ and SQ are much harder now. Valiant here and was struggling with some paths last month. I hope this month is not as bad cause I am close to quitting. I used to play casually, log in spend my energy doing a path, do AQ etc, log off. Now it is struggling to find the time cause it is taking so long to do some fights with all these nodes and stupid defenders they place. Like you need to incinerate to make any damage but they become debuff immune every other second...