I saw a great quote once: ‘Look at size zero runway models and tell me it’s not an industry ran by gay men.’ Because they’re all so slim, have no bust, are encouraged to have short or no hair. Highly androgynous.
two types: slim no bust, twinks and hypermasculine men with huge muscles bulging out... you gotta remember that original professional "body building" was invented in the late victorian era where they get all these "muscle men" to get into a private room take their clothes off and "Get rated" by other men... think about that... who the hell would be interested in doing something like this in the late Victorian era? other than closet GHEY aristocrats ...
Skinny is ok but absolutely no waist hip curvature and flat chest and flat ass, is grooming straight men to stop finding beauty in the curves a natural woman has. This way when gays get in drag straight men will appreciate gays.
Recently, when I see guys calling women with any amount of womanly features “fat”, I’ve started asking them who they find attractive. So far 3/4 all showed me women almost exactly like that. No chest, thighs, hips, or anything like that. Just a pretty face and long hair. I think men are getting psy-op’d into homosexuality
@@newdivide9882 Been saying this for years, with the heroine chic body type being introduced in the 90s along with the shaved pubes on those actresses, have trained men's brains through orgasm to prefer, prepubescent/ adolescent male traits on a woman. And you wonder as to why things like femboys and trans is so popular with men nowadays.
A lot of this crap is slowly disappearing. Have you noticed how the feminists have almost stopped complaining about man spreading, and other things? Their fad is dying as they're exposed as cretins.
Not just guys tho, they should have discussed all the old ladies/moms being super heroes and badasses. Or the gross chicks in media presenting roles now. It’s not just guys that can’t have a role model, women too.
yeah and his description in the book fits him well " a small build, with black hair, "an oval face", "long lashes", "thin nose", and a strong bone structure."
@@BalrogUdun You can be thin and still muscular. I believe the description is lithe. Really dense and agile muscle, ideal for combat. If you look at WW2 training footage, everyone is thin and looks malnourished but they were strong because that's how men REALLY look. This beefcake look is modern.
This is probably why most young dudes switched from marvel, DC and Hollywood to manga and anime. Last i checked, masculinity and heroism was still appreciated in attack on titan, one piece and other shows from the East.
@@dickiewongtk Some are, in Fullmetal alchemist, grand blue. I see your point but since japanese men are quite thin, they prioritize the message of "strength in knowledge, patience, honor, hard work and hidden virtue rather than boisterousness" because of it. Still leagues better than marvel, DC or Hollywood imo.
@@dickiewongtk Japanese culture tends to hold technique and mastery higher than raw strength. The majority of shonen anime heroes are pretty cut, certainly in excellent physical condition, but you aren't going to find the huge, bulky muscle that you will find in American media. And let's be frank, being huge is not exactly practical anyways, there's a reason why they're called "glamour muscles," they're purely for show. Look at any of the top martial artists in the world and you'll see they're certainly muscular, but not THAT big. That is not to say such things aren't anywhere in Japanese media. Baki, Jojo, and a lot of older anime that took inspiration from Hollywood macho films of the late 70's into the 80's have plenty of hulking dudes.
yes can't fault Timothy for being cast as Paul... he's supposed to be 14 or something Timothy certainly looks like he used puberty blockers at some point LOL
I'm looking forward to their two films releasing in the next 6 months. I've always thought Mr Cavill is greatly under appreciated, as he always gives his everything in each role. And more than that I think he is one of the few actors in the modern day that isn't some sort of narcissist, regularly showing his humility (which funnily enough seems to be a theme with actors permanently residing outside CA)
Twinks are player characters below the level cap who have gained the best powerful gear for their level with enhancements such as expensive weapon enchants, leg patches and BoE/BoP greens, blues or epics. Twinks are mainly used in PvP fighting and Battlegrounds. People that play them are also actual real Twinks.
And they're usually sponsored by a high, usually max level, character of the same player, which is where the term came from. Especially in the _World of Warcraft_ example, because the only way to acquire much of the gear was with a higher-level character's help... especially before you could turn off experience gain.
Heres the thing, chalamet actually works as a Paul Atreides for dune book 1, since he is barely 16-17 in the books. However, he is a horrible fit for adult/old Paul we will see in future movies, and no ammount of make up is going to give him the phisical characterics that adult Paul has.
They are going to wait a few years before making Dune Messiah. TC will look suitably older by then. Paul Atreides is not a muscular looking bloke, that's just not how the character was written. TC is a good choice to play him. Zendya was bang average in the first film the rest of the cast were great
As a Greek it's a trash movie, yes I know it's from a comic. I wouldn't call leather underwear Hollywood garbage "big T energy" Big T energy is evident in good books of historical people that did something worthwhile. No I'm not fun at parties, I never go 🫠
@kostasbiker9302 It's such trash...and yet, please don't hate me...I love it. Is it historically inaccurate? Oh, for sure. Is it dumb and shouty? Of course! But is it awesome? Yes!
I'm not allowed to use that word in a UA-cam comment, but I remember back in the late 00's when that term was used in the MMORPG community (particularly World of Warcraft) to refer to a low level character created on a high level account, thus benefitting from all the resources that player had accumulated and being able to get through early game easily. Then one day it was used for gay men, and the term disappeared from gaming circles entirely. And it always kind of stuck in my mind that the same word was used for such radically different meanings, and the thought of how they might somehow be linked making me somewhat queasy.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but _WoW_ imported the term from the gay community, where it referred to a young man 'sponsored' by a more experienced member of the community. Hence its use in the MMO sphere.
"Carl and his merry band of 'winks...." "This episode has been a race to the 'bottom'..." (everyone does a double-take and cracks up) "They look like a proper man could split them in two!" "That's what they want, for a big burly man to come and split them in two!" Harry: "I had some gay friends over on [some dodgy-sounding street] -" (point is instantly lost when hilarity ensues) This episode was a hilarious descent into mischief and madness! I really like this one-casual-day-a-week format where the Lotus Eaters get together in a bigger group, unwind and goof off like this, it's an absolute riot.
I can't really say I learned much from this, except that gay men steal from black women, but it was one of the funniest episodes of the Lotus Eaters yet - I really needed that! :D
Not even. In the book he can handle himself against grown and well built men. I assumed he was pretty strong and well bred... Kinda a point of the whole series
He is described to have an oval face shape, just like his mother. His hair is also said to be black and curly which comes from his father, along with the "aquiline facial features". Overall yeah id say the actor is pretty faithful to the character in the book, i think his acting needs a bit of improvement, however. My opinion on Villeneuves adaptation is kinda mixed, im not really sure an adaptation was necessary or needed for Dune to begin with, but we all know hollywood will jump at the chance for easy money from fans of books/movie/shows, ESPECIALLY fans of sci fi/fantasy stuff.
It’s because teen girls and younger women watch more movies and really don’t tend to be attracted to more rugged guys yet. This is nothing new. Look at Rudolf Valentino.
I agree with most of the argument. But I disagree with your thumbnail. Paul Atreides was a small-statured 15 year-old boy. Timothee looked pretty much perfect.
With Paul Atreides, I'm a bit mixed. In the books Paul the book implies that he's very bishie. That said he's a remarkably charismatic and athletic individual, he'd resemble more a swimmer than a body builder, and considering he grew up on a water world and fights relying on speed it makes sense. Not full twink but still you get the idea.
i wouldn't mind, if they actually made movies of all genres where you have masculine characters and effeminate characters and just let the audience decide... it becomes a problem where it goes 100% one way and the studios starts shoving it down your throat...
True, but Depp can pull off playing an intimidating, full-grown man when he wants to. I will be surprised if little Timothy will ever be able to do that.
Not to go full leftist mode but that shit is a terrible thing to aspire to and dudes like Sam Sulek non ironically result in lots of youth destroying their bodies through juicing. This is coming from a dude who works out religiously. The ideal should be a body like classic Greek Statues, aesthetic but practical.
Men can’t help it if they are built lanky, but they can determine the caliber of their character (which is more essential to enduring masculinity). Muscle mass will fade without artifice, but character is for life. The most reliable, masculine men I know are almost all lanky beansprouts, and most of the untrustworthy men I know are beefy.
For the love of all that is holy bring back Steve McQueen! Ok, rant over, thanks to Harry I finally know why Cavill has such small hands, in relation to his body (check it out for yourself, it does look odd) well, no steroids! Just 24/7 in the gym.
My husband and I just binged all of Reacher. Needless to say, I was ecstatic to see actually masculine and moral men comprising the main cast/protagonists (aside from Hubble, but he redeems himself a bit later imo).
Twinks have been well documented in the 80s: lookit early Metallica/specifically thrash metal bands in that era. It's basically guys who don't eat properly/little to no meat, and don't lift.
Does anyone on here know where the Italian Stallion received his nickname before he portrayed Rocky? He was a manly man in that movie as well, one of his first. You'll get a laugh out of it.
@@RichardEnglander Look for the movie: The Party at Kitty and Stud's. They actually gave him that nickname over it, which made it into Rocky. It's XXX, and mentions “stud services.”
@@chamberpot969 Yes, he said that they tried to sell it to him for $100 grand after Rocky, but he said that he wouldn't give them $200 for it. He was broke at the time they filmed it, and $200 was what they paid him for two days of filming.
3:55 ahh, the real important things to talk about in this life! To make fun of men who don't conform to your standard of a "mAn" while you or your friends are no such examples of "men"
12:10-12:25 the switch from muscly men to twinks is also seen in popular manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, which is directly influenced by fashion culture. 14:50-15:02 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I saw The Rock at American Football Superbowl game. His arms alone made the NFL ( National Football League) players look like 10 year old boys. Totally natural. No way was he using steroids.
The crew REALLY should go to the pub, have a solid piss-up and film the whole thing. Just the boys wearing their casual gear, having some pints, and talking nonsense. It'd make for great content!
"Carlton is right. It's an attempt to androgenize. This trend is at least 14 years old. It potentially has its roots in the early 2000s emo scene or even earlier. I remember the 90s. The problem was that women actually followed the skinny thing. Curvy is in now and it's one of the few, if only, things that have gotten better culturally." - David Hume
Timothy Charlamet is dating Kylie Jenner and has landed the lead role in the film adaption of the greatest novel ever written (Dune), so I’m not going to knock Tim for a lack of masculinity. That said, he does look about 12! 😂
It's so attractive. Posh, softly spoken pretty man who occasionally drops a quiet but deadly roast. Bet you he picks up the garbage and brings it home when he goes camping 😻
Chalemet gets a pass for Paul Atreides. Fairly close to how i pictured him in the book. Will be interesting to see how he looks for Messiah if that film gets made in the future.
Lads, I had to look up the allegations against Arnie Hammer because I immediately distrust these cancel culture narratives, and the allegations seem to be completely unfounded. Please don't spread slander from women abusing the #MeToo movement to destroy the careers of men. You need to do better by our fellow men.
I will say this in defense of Dune. Early on Paul isn't supposed to be very masculine. He's described as fairly scrawny and boyish and he was somewhat coddled by Jessica. If he had put on some muscle for the sequel it would have been better.
"I could snap them in two."
"That's what they _want,_ Harry!"
😂💀
He’s dog whistling 😅
I saw a great quote once:
‘Look at size zero runway models and tell me it’s not an industry ran by gay men.’
Because they’re all so slim, have no bust, are encouraged to have short or no hair. Highly androgynous.
two types:
slim no bust, twinks
and
hypermasculine men with huge muscles bulging out...
you gotta remember that original professional "body building" was invented in the late victorian era
where they get all these "muscle men" to get into a private room
take their clothes off
and "Get rated"
by other men...
think about that... who the hell would be interested in doing something like this in the late Victorian era?
other than closet GHEY aristocrats ...
Skinny is ok but absolutely no waist hip curvature and flat chest and flat ass, is grooming straight men to stop finding beauty in the curves a natural woman has. This way when gays get in drag straight men will appreciate gays.
Recently, when I see guys calling women with any amount of womanly features “fat”, I’ve started asking them who they find attractive. So far 3/4 all showed me women almost exactly like that. No chest, thighs, hips, or anything like that. Just a pretty face and long hair.
I think men are getting psy-op’d into homosexuality
@@newdivide9882 Been saying this for years, with the heroine chic body type being introduced in the 90s along with the shaved pubes on those actresses, have trained men's brains through orgasm to prefer, prepubescent/ adolescent male traits on a woman. And you wonder as to why things like femboys and trans is so popular with men nowadays.
@@newdivide9882 Face triumphs all. I need to create a chad son. I don't care if the mother is flat or not, I need mogger children.
This installment was just a beautiful descent into chaos.
Just a bunch of men having a giggle.
A right chuckle.
I miss having fun like this in the UK
And taking the piss out of each other - it really was a lot of fun, in an uptight, insecure, sensitive world where fun has been sorely missing.
I’ve been complaining about this for almost a decade, glad to see others are sick of this.
Dam right!!
5 way split screen, what am I a chuffing spider! Ridiculous.
A lot of this crap is slowly disappearing. Have you noticed how the feminists have almost stopped complaining about man spreading, and other things? Their fad is dying as they're exposed as cretins.
Boo hiss, twinks are beautiful.
Not just guys tho, they should have discussed all the old ladies/moms being super heroes and badasses. Or the gross chicks in media presenting roles now. It’s not just guys that can’t have a role model, women too.
Paul Atreides is bad example to decry the current trend because his character is supposed to be small and thin, unassuming.
Also it's not actually about how man looks, but what he does, and Paul can hardly be called twink in that regard
I was going to say this also, I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be like 15 years old or something
@@Lord_Aussem He is, and he's described literally as "small for his age".
The book starts when he's sixteen I think, and ends when he's nineteen. @@Lord_Aussem
Next they'll be complaining that Harry Potter in the movies is short, skinny and has the body of a little boy.
Paul is supposed to be 15 in Dune.
yeah and his description in the book fits him well " a small build, with black hair, "an oval face", "long lashes", "thin nose", and a strong bone structure."
And well trained with weapons and weaponless combat. He’d be muscled at 15.
@@templarroystonofvaseyhis description in the book was a thin frame
@@BalrogUdunLike a lightweight UFC fighter.
@@BalrogUdun You can be thin and still muscular. I believe the description is lithe. Really dense and agile muscle, ideal for combat.
If you look at WW2 training footage, everyone is thin and looks malnourished but they were strong because that's how men REALLY look. This beefcake look is modern.
My wife was literally saying the other day that the majority of the male movie stars today are not manly.
It's by design. The book After The Ball talks about this. It's currently out of print.
BORAT VOICE
Same with male singers. When was the last time you heard a popular singer with a baritone voice?
just looked it up, seems interesting. i'll have to get a copy @@brianjones3321
Sean Connery vs Harry styles.
This is probably why most young dudes switched from marvel, DC and Hollywood to manga and anime.
Last i checked, masculinity and heroism was still appreciated in attack on titan, one piece and other shows from the East.
Yes, but male characters in Japanese entertainment are not strong big macular men too.
@@dickiewongtk
Some are, in Fullmetal alchemist, grand blue.
I see your point but since japanese men are quite thin, they prioritize the message of "strength in knowledge, patience, honor, hard work and hidden virtue rather than boisterousness" because of it.
Still leagues better than marvel, DC or Hollywood imo.
@@bordocofrivia2896Forget not Jojo pre-Part 4.
@@dickiewongtk Japanese culture tends to hold technique and mastery higher than raw strength. The majority of shonen anime heroes are pretty cut, certainly in excellent physical condition, but you aren't going to find the huge, bulky muscle that you will find in American media. And let's be frank, being huge is not exactly practical anyways, there's a reason why they're called "glamour muscles," they're purely for show. Look at any of the top martial artists in the world and you'll see they're certainly muscular, but not THAT big.
That is not to say such things aren't anywhere in Japanese media. Baki, Jojo, and a lot of older anime that took inspiration from Hollywood macho films of the late 70's into the 80's have plenty of hulking dudes.
@@adriellightvale8140
Yes thank you!
Sono chi no sadame! How could I forget?
Timothy is perfectly cast for paul atrietes. If you read the books, he and his dad are spot on from their description.
yes can't fault Timothy for being cast as Paul...
he's supposed to be 14 or something
Timothy certainly looks like he used puberty blockers at some point LOL
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Agree. He's an excellent actor though.
"Carl and his merry band of twinks."
Lmao. Y'all just British looking to me, as an American.
Yes, Brits seem 'soft hands' and effete to us.
That's because Callum isn't present.
British or gay? British or gay?
Not fat you mean
Rest of the entire world sees you as Dillon Mulveyneys not lumberjacks.
None of the guys in Lotus Eaters are very masculine themselves though
That’s what I’m SAYING lmao
Henry Cavill and Alan Ritchson are our models for what to have when discussing strong male protagonist
I'm looking forward to their two films releasing in the next 6 months. I've always thought Mr Cavill is greatly under appreciated, as he always gives his everything in each role. And more than that I think he is one of the few actors in the modern day that isn't some sort of narcissist, regularly showing his humility (which funnily enough seems to be a theme with actors permanently residing outside CA)
Alan ritchon? The guy who actually moans about the second amendment and calls for more restrictions, whilst playing characters who use guns
@@Bhead69most people in Hollywood have horrible politics cuz they’re coastal elites.
I could listen to the lads riff and banter all day ^.-.^
Twinks are player characters below the level cap who have gained the best powerful gear for their level with enhancements such as expensive weapon enchants, leg patches and BoE/BoP greens, blues or epics. Twinks are mainly used in PvP fighting and Battlegrounds.
People that play them are also actual real Twinks.
And they're usually sponsored by a high, usually max level, character of the same player, which is where the term came from.
Especially in the _World of Warcraft_ example, because the only way to acquire much of the gear was with a higher-level character's help... especially before you could turn off experience gain.
Thank you
"Carl and his merry band of twinks"
Well that's what I'll think of The Lotus eaters as now.
Isn't it funny how toxic masculinity is suddenly popular again, just in time for the conscription call ups.
Heres the thing, chalamet actually works as a Paul Atreides for dune book 1, since he is barely 16-17 in the books.
However, he is a horrible fit for adult/old Paul we will see in future movies, and no ammount of make up is going to give him the phisical characterics that adult Paul has.
Won't the future movies show the worm god?
@flameguy3416 If they make the sequels, yes, but Paul doesn't become the Wormgod. His son Leto Atredes II becomes the Wormgod.
They are going to wait a few years before making Dune Messiah. TC will look suitably older by then. Paul Atreides is not a muscular looking bloke, that's just not how the character was written. TC is a good choice to play him. Zendya was bang average in the first film the rest of the cast were great
@@flameguy3416I don't think they are going to make that film
Should have looked more like a lightweight UFC fighter than a twink.
A humble move called 300 is the most amount of Big T energy I have ever experienced.
You need to watch more movies
It's hard to go past a Bruce Willis movie for that pure T energy, although 300 was still pretty solid in that regard.
As a Greek it's a trash movie, yes I know it's from a comic.
I wouldn't call leather underwear Hollywood garbage "big T energy"
Big T energy is evident in good books of historical people that did something worthwhile.
No I'm not fun at parties, I never go 🫠
Try a movie called The 800.
@kostasbiker9302 It's such trash...and yet, please don't hate me...I love it. Is it historically inaccurate? Oh, for sure. Is it dumb and shouty? Of course! But is it awesome? Yes!
I'm not allowed to use that word in a UA-cam comment, but I remember back in the late 00's when that term was used in the MMORPG community (particularly World of Warcraft) to refer to a low level character created on a high level account, thus benefitting from all the resources that player had accumulated and being able to get through early game easily. Then one day it was used for gay men, and the term disappeared from gaming circles entirely. And it always kind of stuck in my mind that the same word was used for such radically different meanings, and the thought of how they might somehow be linked making me somewhat queasy.
yeah, "my [youtube no-no word] character" has a much different meaning now, especially if you're on a RP server lol
Sorry to burst your bubble, but _WoW_ imported the term from the gay community, where it referred to a young man 'sponsored' by a more experienced member of the community. Hence its use in the MMO sphere.
@@luxie8097 never go to Goldshire RP. Never. Just farm mobs and go straight to west fall.
My twink got ganked from behind by a feral bear druid 😮😅
i love how Stell doesn't seem to know whats happening.
Lol. Yeah the whole thing just kinda passed him by...
He just waits for the right moment to drop great one-liners. Aristophanes would be proud.
"they want to take it upstairs" lmfao
"Carl and his merry band of 'winks...."
"This episode has been a race to the 'bottom'..." (everyone does a double-take and cracks up)
"They look like a proper man could split them in two!" "That's what they want, for a big burly man to come and split them in two!"
Harry: "I had some gay friends over on [some dodgy-sounding street] -" (point is instantly lost when hilarity ensues)
This episode was a hilarious descent into mischief and madness! I really like this one-casual-day-a-week format where the Lotus Eaters get together in a bigger group, unwind and goof off like this, it's an absolute riot.
I can't really say I learned much from this, except that gay men steal from black women, but it was one of the funniest episodes of the Lotus Eaters yet - I really needed that! :D
Stelios uses all his allowed banter quota in the first 10 minutes, but good golly does he make it quality banter 😂
It’s really hard to banter in another language as you don’t have the same refrences growing up somewhere else but he does it really well.
The Plastic-Manifcation of Everything.
This whole segment is the meme of men getting overly shredded at the gym only to get the attention of other men whilst getting ignored by women.
Timothée Chalamet looks like a Moroccan rent boy. All the charisma and acting talent of a plank of wood.
Not even. In the book he can handle himself against grown and well built men. I assumed he was pretty strong and well bred... Kinda a point of the whole series
Come on who is going to kick Marilyn Monroe out of bed even today, unless I really am a dying breed!
Dude she is a corpse wtf 😂
If you’re into corpses I guess…
She’s a very attractive community bicycle.
Marilyn Manson
I’m not really into corpses, but you do you man.
To be fair, Timothée Chalamet’s appearance is actually a very good match for how Paul Atreides is described in the book.
People don't seem to get that
You see Paul as your mind imagines him. Says more about your mind than the book.
He is described to have an oval face shape, just like his mother. His hair is also said to be black and curly which comes from his father, along with the "aquiline facial features". Overall yeah id say the actor is pretty faithful to the character in the book, i think his acting needs a bit of improvement, however. My opinion on Villeneuves adaptation is kinda mixed, im not really sure an adaptation was necessary or needed for Dune to begin with, but we all know hollywood will jump at the chance for easy money from fans of books/movie/shows, ESPECIALLY fans of sci fi/fantasy stuff.
Wouldn’t say his looks were bad, it was more his demeanor.
@@templarroystonofvaseywow... What a statement. Capt. Obvious detected.
I had a level 19 twink in WOW over 10 years ago. Over 10,000 kills.
Warsong gulch enjoyer
you can count kills?
It’s because teen girls and younger women watch more movies and really don’t tend to be attracted to more rugged guys yet. This is nothing new. Look at Rudolf Valentino.
I agree with most of the argument. But I disagree with your thumbnail. Paul Atreides was a small-statured 15 year-old boy. Timothee looked pretty much perfect.
Yeah... Timis the wrong target here
3:50 my wife doesn't like Tymo... whatever the hell his name is, she says "he looks like if i hugged him he'd break"
Timothée. Educate yourself.
An episode DEEP in Irony. I don't think I need to point fingers here on the topic of "Twink".
With Paul Atreides, I'm a bit mixed. In the books Paul the book implies that he's very bishie. That said he's a remarkably charismatic and athletic individual, he'd resemble more a swimmer than a body builder, and considering he grew up on a water world and fights relying on speed it makes sense. Not full twink but still you get the idea.
Honestly the skinniness wouldnt be so bad if the characters werent written to be a paradoxical sjw.
I now feel like I've been down at the pub having an ale and a laugh with the lotuseaster lads, someone get a beer (or two) into Stellos!
I really couldn't agree more
"Carl and his merry band of twinks"
I'm not seeing the twink part.
As a woman, there was so much ignorance in this discussion, men still dont know what women want, or how to treat one.
I read Twink & I first thought of Shooty Gatwaa.
As soon as i see either teenagers or weak men as the protagonists i dont even bother because i know what the messaging will be.
i wouldn't mind, if they actually made movies of all genres
where you have masculine characters and effeminate characters
and just let the audience decide...
it becomes a problem where it goes 100% one way and the studios starts shoving it down your throat...
That zinger at the end was great!
Women undoing 'toxic male masculinity' when women still wear male masculine military style dress. HUH. That argument doesn't even work.
Depp was the Chalamet of his day, for good or ill Hollywood loves an "alternatively" attractive male lead. It's increasingly annoying.
Depp was masculine via tattoos and guitar and the facial structure. Before he went gay for Burton he was more butch than half the lotuseaters :)
True, but Depp can pull off playing an intimidating, full-grown man when he wants to. I will be surprised if little Timothy will ever be able to do that.
@@dinocarosi4303 look at how depp looked when he was his age.
Watch the King. Not everything requires size, my overcompensating friend.
@@dinocarosi4303
Johnny Depp is actually a good actor.
"I bent him up like a Pretzel. I really hurt him" - springs to mind
It's still here mates. Masculinity.
Maybe you don't move in the right circles! Left twix or right twix?
Something can exist while still being in a state of decline.
I cannot tell you how much I loved this exchange
*_You guys should do a 'Counter movie', maybe a horror film - Something titled, 'The Un Woke'' ..._*
I hope that when the pendulum swings, we get male actors that look like they were ripped straight from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Parts 1 through 3.
Not to go full leftist mode but that shit is a terrible thing to aspire to and dudes like Sam Sulek non ironically result in lots of youth destroying their bodies through juicing. This is coming from a dude who works out religiously. The ideal should be a body like classic Greek Statues, aesthetic but practical.
@@lurksnitchtongue8986 Part 4, then.
In fairness Timothee chalamet is a book-faithful Paul Atreides, but your broader point stands
Men can’t help it if they are built lanky, but they can determine the caliber of their character (which is more essential to enduring masculinity). Muscle mass will fade without artifice, but character is for life. The most reliable, masculine men I know are almost all lanky beansprouts, and most of the untrustworthy men I know are beefy.
Yeah, because they have that heightfidence.
For the love of all that is holy bring back Steve McQueen! Ok, rant over, thanks to Harry I finally know why Cavill has such small hands, in relation to his body (check it out for yourself, it does look odd) well, no steroids! Just 24/7 in the gym.
Only HGH does that. Most steroid users are not on HGH. Henry is in his 40's and on gear. Most buff Hollywood is.
Omg this is so much better than linear TV.
AY UP LOTUS EATERS
Callum is missed sorely in this segment.
What's that make men like Sean Bean? Namely during the '90s.
The man famous for dying on screen?
@@boobah5643 Except as Richard Sharpe. :D
He's just a man, simple as.
My husband and I just binged all of Reacher. Needless to say, I was ecstatic to see actually masculine and moral men comprising the main cast/protagonists (aside from Hubble, but he redeems himself a bit later imo).
Thats a lotta giggling.
Twinkling
Steroids are unrelated to the organ and gut growth- you're thinking of human growth hormone.
Should be more of them tbh..
dune is predictive programming for the zoomers, in the coming IRL knife fighting culture in a few years.
I would live in a knife fighting culture if it meant the police was out of everyone's way
‘The slow knife penetrates the shi-‘
- *already stabbed 16 times*
Twinks have been well documented in the 80s: lookit early Metallica/specifically thrash metal bands in that era. It's basically guys who don't eat properly/little to no meat, and don't lift.
I do like these segments alot
This segment is funny AF 😂
Does anyone on here know where the Italian Stallion received his nickname before he portrayed Rocky? He was a manly man in that movie as well, one of his first. You'll get a laugh out of it.
That was a name given to Rocky...
@@RichardEnglander Look for the movie: The Party at Kitty and Stud's. They actually gave him that nickname over it, which made it into Rocky. It's XXX, and mentions “stud services.”
It was a rubbish blue movie, but one for the archives.
@@chamberpot969 Yes, he said that they tried to sell it to him for $100 grand after Rocky, but he said that he wouldn't give them $200 for it. He was broke at the time they filmed it, and $200 was what they paid him for two days of filming.
Stelios is giving us the Athens/Sparta choice…
“Men” vs. MEN.
Harry secretly disliked this video
3:55 ahh, the real important things to talk about in this life! To make fun of men who don't conform to your standard of a "mAn" while you or your friends are no such examples of "men"
we need more of this
the best start of 30s into a lotus video 😂
I used to find twinks cute...and then I hit puberty lol
The opposite happened with me
Good damn it this episode had me in stitches! Rofl🤣🤣
I love you guys….especially Josh!! ❤😂😂😂
12:10-12:25 the switch from muscly men to twinks is also seen in popular manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, which is directly influenced by fashion culture.
14:50-15:02 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
This IS a Hilarious episode!
I saw The Rock at American Football Superbowl game. His arms alone made the NFL ( National Football League) players look like 10 year old boys. Totally natural. No way was he using steroids.
This was like being in the pub, with my mates, fantastic. Popping over to the main site to watch the rest!
A very enjoyable video. But I thought it was the ancient Greeks who gave us the concept of the twink?
It was. They’re just coping
It existed in other cultures also, like east Asia.
Yeah twinks and pederastry. Both tend to go hand in hand
The crew REALLY should go to the pub, have a solid piss-up and film the whole thing. Just the boys wearing their casual gear, having some pints, and talking nonsense.
It'd make for great content!
Excellent!
"Carlton is right. It's an attempt to androgenize. This trend is at least 14 years old. It potentially has its roots in the early 2000s emo scene or even earlier. I remember the 90s. The problem was that women actually followed the skinny thing. Curvy is in now and it's one of the few, if only, things that have gotten better culturally." - David Hume
Friends the life style of gay men sex In the city the lifestyles od gay men
Has this guy heard of David Bowie? Jfc things happened before 2000.
@@KeytarArgonian "David Bowie was operating on his own accord and not part of a larger organization" - Immanuel Kant
@@dryciderz and Yohji Yamamoto? Annie Lennox?
Eww
Timothy Charlamet is dating Kylie Jenner and has landed the lead role in the film adaption of the greatest novel ever written (Dune), so I’m not going to knock Tim for a lack of masculinity. That said, he does look about 12! 😂
Is dating Kylie Jenner really a flex?
The old actor for Paul Atreidas pulled it off.
I only learned that term
Last year
Strange, strange world
the banter between them was hilarious
Hilarious segment
Josh so darn polite xD
It's so attractive. Posh, softly spoken pretty man who occasionally drops a quiet but deadly roast. Bet you he picks up the garbage and brings it home when he goes camping 😻
Chalemet gets a pass for Paul Atreides. Fairly close to how i pictured him in the book. Will be interesting to see how he looks for Messiah if that film gets made in the future.
Is it just me, or are all those "boys" hunch backed? That is a comment on what we all do way too much of. Heads down on the phone.
Carl's kittens might be more apt
"And very quickly the talk among our twinks turned to dad bods."
im cacking up!!!
The fellas calling each other nonces is exactly why i watch this show
So Lotus Eaters now features a 90s Grunge Star?
He wasn't born to live the life of grunge then so by golly he's gonna look like he is now!
‘Beefy dudes’
Lads, I had to look up the allegations against Arnie Hammer because I immediately distrust these cancel culture narratives, and the allegations seem to be completely unfounded. Please don't spread slander from women abusing the #MeToo movement to destroy the careers of men. You need to do better by our fellow men.
Basically, this boils down to Arnie Hammer not being a faithful husband. If he was a black man, no one would care.
6:43 couldn’t have said it better myself good sir
When will they get to Zeus & Ganymede and Nero & Sporus?? Ganymede was the first twink.
I will say this in defense of Dune. Early on Paul isn't supposed to be very masculine. He's described as fairly scrawny and boyish and he was somewhat coddled by Jessica. If he had put on some muscle for the sequel it would have been better.