Steph Curry Has Reached His Breaking Point With The Golden State Warriors
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James Wiseman being a bust and the whole Jordan Poole and draymond stuff really wrecked this franchise
facts
Getting old wrecked this franchise. Even Curry is noticeably less than he was even last season. His FG% is down, his rebounds are down, and his assists are down. Their offense revolves around him running around in circles for 40 minutes to get 15 open shots per game. Except how many easy (for him) shots did he miss in the last 6 minutes and in OT? No legs = a drop in shooting efficiency. it only gets worse from here.
Wiseman is not even that bad. All he had to do was play exactly like the rookie center Jackson this season. Expect they expected him to pass like Jokic, score like Embiid, and have the defensive flexibility of AD.
@SDesWriter sure is he the same, no. However, with a supporting cast those numbers are more than likely different. He's 35 they can't expect him to just have to do what he used to every night. I look at it like luka without kyrie, you can literally see how tired these guys are shouldering these massive loads game after game.
@@nevilleachero8054 actually Wiseman was that bad. He was completely lost on both ends of the court. His best plays were on the fastbreak as he would simply out run the opposing center, but that's not the Warriors offense. There's a reason Detroit also gave up on him and they needed talent. He was really that bad. Shoulda' drafted LaMelo Ball.
They got old. This is how I pictured it happening, too. If you’ve watched enough team sports, then you’ve also seen dynasties grow old and fall apart. It’s nothing new, really.
I think it partly has to do with the league trying to move on from the “bron and steph” era through the refs, so that the new teams can get more shine. Steph’s frustration might be that they’ve shown they can win in spite of all the bad calls through the various close games they’ve lost to.
Signing green to four years was devastating.
completely agreed, if they kept Steph while breaking up their core their team would've looked a lot better coming into this season.
No it wasn’t
@@mopar_keysyes it wasn't
Green was a +37 against lakers
they are so bad without green
No, we will not redbuild. Most of the people here do not remember or were not watching ball back when the warriors were rebulding before. it took more than a decade, and we got lucky with Curry. Curry WILL be with the warriors till he retires. The warriors should make win now moves. That options most likely will not be available at the trade deadline, however in the offseason there might. The warriors are going to not trade and wait for the offseason to make any moves. The objective at this point is to give more minutes to the young guys and devolop them.
It's *Over* my guy 😅😂
LMFAO.....exactly what "Win now moves" are you suggesting to take a sub-500 team to best in the West? Both GS and the Lakers might miss the playoffs. To fix that they'll need to pick up at least one star better than Thompson or Kuminga. Do you think another team is just going to give that away without asking for anything in return? Because if they give up anything, then they need a #2 level star AND someone to replace what they had to give up. Good luck with that.
There is no rebuild and there is no win-now. It's just over.
Steve Kerr failed to develop Wiseman and now lost hope from Kuminga and Moody. I was right when I said trading for CP3 was a bad decision because of his injury concerns. Now that Kerr has proven that he can't develop talent no team will take Wiggins, Klay or Dray's massive contract and the owners can't keep spending over the luxury tax as their championship window expired.
He’s gonna ask out eventually, you dubs fans needa realize it’s over and you just have to accept it. And think about it like this, would you rather keep them, and risk getting nothing for them, or would you get rid of them and get something like picks or young people back for some of them?
Steph probably stress chewed through five mouth guards this season already
Curry’s going to nowhere! 😂 bro was pissed after a tough loss it happens chillax
So you want him to end his career with 2-3 seasons of mediocre teams (possibly missing the playoffs)?
@@SDesWritermost most great players do. That's the way of the world. Kobe ended his career that way, so did MJ on the Wizards.
@@SDesWriterI believe the warriors gone keep Curry Klay & Draymond till they decide to retire they built that organization them boys not going nowhere
They should trade him to Miami after this season if Heat fail in PO. They have no chance to build contender around Curry becasue there is no aveliable players next seaon to do so. Miami can give Herro, Rozier, Jovic and 3 picks for Curry and Saric. Butler and Curry will have 1 maybe 2 chance (if healthy) to win and Warriors can rebuild around Herro and Kuminga.
how about the 3Pt Attempts disparity??? 😂
I can't see any Curry trade that could happen unless he requests a trade. Given Steph has missed a ton of games since 2017-18 and his age I struggle to see anyone offering the kind of assets it would take to make the Warriors move on from the greatest icon their franchise has ever had. Do the Warriors have their own firsts to be able to move for Murray? Gotta think Atlanta would jump for an unprotected first in say 27 and maybe a top 10 protected 25 first.
Murray alone is not the answer. I’d say they need a 4 or 5 that can score both in the post and midrange when necessary. I’m just not sure they would accommodate a player like that by changing the scheme. He’s risky PR wise but Miles Bridges would be a great addition to them.
The league has way too many complete players that can play both ends of the court. Curry is just a shooter and at this stage of his career he may as well stay where he is. Other coaches aren't going to be as loyal to him as Kerr. Lately Curry isn't even getting to the free throw line as often because he just typically hangs around the three point line. He's easy to defend because he's one dimensional. Even with Klay's injuries he's still a better defender than Curry. Kuminga should be smart and ask for a trade because Kerr isn't going to willingly take the ball out of Curry's hand even when he's missing shots.
@@pcharl01both yall are tweaking. No team wants steph curry? In what world exactly? His age ain't even an issue he's still averaging insane numbers w absolutely 0 help and garbage teammates. Dude had 46 just a few nights ago smh.
Bro, people just offered a star players for post Achilles Kevin Durant Steph Curry is better he would get a offer especially since he would bring any team to chip level if teamed with a star
The rise of kuminga and moody and a resurgence of wiggins will bring back the warriors. No trades needed. Two solid games from wiggins so far. Excellent performance from kuminga as well.. The dubs just got unlucky. Something's brewing, teams on the right track.
fuck no
Being dependent on Wiggins is a recipe for failure. History before and after has shown us 2022 was an anomaly
Hoop Reports, is that you?
Bro have u not seen since the death of Dejan the warriors have had the 1 offense in the league we’re gonna be fine
@@dylanpaton3276 1 win and 2 losses... lay off the drugs...
Facts!!
Shoulda got Dwight Howard when they had the chance
kuminga looks like no ears Mickey Mouse and i cannot unsee it.
I think they messed up by giving Poole that contract. I think it brought unnecessary tension specifically between Dray and Poole since its dumb to pay the new guy before paying your core and to make up for it they then gave Dray a huge contract after getting rid of Poole. Making a mistake to make up for previous mistakes almost always just makes things worse
I'd say sell while there's still value. Curry could easily net 3 first round picks still at age 35
WAY MORE THEN THAT ...curry is three draft picks and a young superstar in the making if u don't have both don't do it ....the bottom they should take is what Oklahoma got for Paul George
Curry can get 4 unprotected picks, 3 swaps and 1 or 2 young players with good potential lol
Curry not going nowhere tho
What I would do as the GM of the Warriors (I would have done this earlier on in all honesty) is sit Steph down and ask him if he wants to be traded or not. The idea is letting him know, it is time to look to the future and move on, so as much as we do not want to see him in another jersey ever, it is likely time, and it's up to him to say "trade". When he says it, we jump immediately to make it happen, with a emphasis on getting him to a potential contender as long as the returns work in the team's favor too. Basically as long as we can work with what we get, we'll pull the trigger on what's best for him. Him, Klay, Dray, all the vets except maybe Kevon seeing as he's incredibly valuable and fitting on any team in any position, and would be a perfect vet and mentor to young big men on the team. Obviously he'd still be up and available for a trade, but it would have to make sense in the long haul. Go into that rebuild, and honestly? JK and Moses are perfect for a team entering a rebuild, because having them and refusing to trade them for anything would ensure the rebuild is already well ahead of schedule the moment it starts. You already have your two young guns to build around.
If they don't do something like this, all that is going to happen is the team will continue to struggle and fall down further and further into mediocrity or worse, like the Celtics did for a few years just in case the core somehow re-surged back to the championship year. They held on too long, so use their scenario as a lesson and pull the trigger on the rebuild and refocusing into the future of the franchise. Send your vets out to contenders who give quality returns. It's time. Don't get stuck.
Id feel for Kumi getting left if Steph went 😢
Problem is draft compensation will likely be late round picks from a title contender
@@ConspiracyNutsMakeMeLOL Yup, but there should be at least decent compensation the team can work with, especially if the GM is competent and is a good salesman. It won't be the best they can can at all of course. But workable. And that's just for Steph anyway. Klay and Dray should fetch them overall better assets to rebuild with than Steph for the reason you wouldn't likely give them they same treatment as Steph. And the idea behind the Steph thing is balance, trying to find that sweet spot right in the middle that gives a decent return to the team, and a decent chance to contend for Steph.
@@TheCriminalViolin if a contender has a different teams 1st rounder then perhaps...all I know is a trade is needed...this team is what it is otherwise
Great Points. It could very well be good for Curry & the Warriors.
thank you for the vid bro.
No problem 👍
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Saw it! That game had 2 overtimes. Felt like the playoffs.
Kobe Bryant did say that the Lakers will be champions once again and these warrior's fans will be no more
kuminga and a pick for claxton and bridges. Claxton is a budget kuminga and bridges would take a scoring load off of curry and would help defensively.
honestly if im the warriors i’m doing whatever steph curry wants. he turned a poverty franchise around into a top tier one. whether if he wants to trade everyone for a win now move or he wants to go somewhere else to win i think he deserves that
Agreed, Steph for sure should get whatever he wants after all that he’s done for this team 👍🏽
If they could get Dwight Howard i don't think they would have to trade anyone. He could be the rim protector, rebounder and the above the rim finishing big man they need. I think they should hold on to Moody and Kuminga
Draymond TJD at the four and Dwight Howard saric and draymond at the 5 would be dangerous
GSW can either give Curry a chance to win more rings by trading him to an actual contender and start rebuilding, or trade Klay, Wiggins and Draymond and get some great pieces to actually have a chance. If Klay doesn't want to start from the bench, this team won't even make it to the play in.
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i think the soul problem of the team is draymond green i felt he is the one generating the toxic vibe in the team even the narrative on the reports is not like that, but on how big the head of dgreen, the possibility is high.
Yes, he is a toxic presence. Who fouled Lebron James at the end of this game which lead to this loss? The green podcaster.
i just dont get it on why people are always saying on why does lakers always have lots of free throw first of all lakers are team that are always attacking the rim. Second they are not a great 3pt team shooter. Thats why lots of they're play always have contact because its under the rim🤦
Picking up Dwight Howard on a vet min contract just to see if he’d add the missing def I needed is always an option.
Honestly, all they need is a big man
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Warriors are much slower in their transition than they were eight years ago.
In particular, not everyone is back to full strength on defense.
They cannot win unless they outperform their opponents with the speed of switching between offense and defense.
They just won two year ago they just need some better players klay and draymond not it no more they need another star to help Steph
Shit, Curry to the Nets for picks and Cam Thomas would be interesting, otherwise, the warriors do need a lauri and capela type player in the fold.
I think the knicks. He was supposed to get drafted by them. Seriously he’s not going anywhere
I think the Warriors were going to have to go through with this no matter what. In addition, the NBA has changed-no more safe leads for one. Stick with it, Steph. I do think you have spoken out about the situation late in the game where they just stand around and watch you without helping.
43 is insane
Let’s be honest we searched for this to pull a crazy parlay
Finish your career in San Antonio Steph!!!
He’s not moving his family
Curry hasn’t been chewing on mouth
guard or shimmying very much lately 😂
It's time for Curry to start acting like Lebron we need major rebuild moves. Time to make some demand Wardell.
same talent different mindset. They are struggle with the mental approach to the game. Klay's frustration, Wigg's head, Dra's emotions, Kam's ego, Kerr wanting the old days when d important, oh yeah father time and mother nature too.
Greatest pg ever was rajón rondo
James wiseman wasn’t a bus Steve Kerr didn’t know how to use him as a warrior fan 10pts-15reb wit defense is good enough for me
A secondary scoring option is the biggest thing they're missing right now. Their offensive scheme revolves around constantly finding the home run plays and you're bound to hit some lulls over the course of the game playing like that, so they need someone to keep the offense afloat while they find their rhythm back. That used to be Jordan Poole's role but we all know what happened after their last championship year. This is why we've seen them blow countless big leads this season. They've never managed to find someone to fill Poole's shoes.
Make a trade for lavine? They could def use his offense
Bob Meyers draft picks sunk this team
There is no trade out there that would make any difference.
Trading curry might be the stupidest thing ever
I agree 👍 on acquiring Wendell Carter Jr.,
who is worth $13 million and change. According to Locked on Magic, he is the gate on a log jam for big men: 4 players who are 6 feet and 10 inches or taller! 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒. He is easier to acquire than Paolo Banchero, $11 million and change, who the Magic will claim as "untouchable " because he is the best player there.
Anybody not named Curry 🍛, BP, TJD or Jonathan Kuminga is subject for a trade. If a 5th player is to be added to the "untouchable " list, he is Moses Moody.
The Magic have defense and height but lack offense. The Warriors have offense but lack defense and height. Such a trade will help both teams.
I want CP3 to get a ring and I love Wardel but meh on warriors being contenders.
they need something other than 3s
Win now f*ck the future! Trade all the distractions for future future picks. Get those vets that buy in the system.
Im tired of the lakers free throw narrative in that game....golden state shot 16 free throws because they shot 58 3 pointers that game ...its your own fault
I feel bad for steph
Curry is whatever he wants to be. If Klay is gone, Steph made it known. Draymond was allowed to resign. Kuminga was chosen by Steph, as was Pojiezski., The Warriors will be what Steph wants for the next 2-5 years. Myers left, and Dunleavy took over, but Steph is the GM Consultant until he retires. Steph is beloved until
he retires.
Steph is getting that 2018 Lebron experience rn
Man Steph been having the 2018 Bron experience every since KD Left And He Won A Chip Steph is 36 Years Old
Time to go fulfill his dream in Charlotte and create a new dynasty.
Warriors not rebounding well but we should start faster we warriors have to at least three players warriors rebounding and steal basketball three indeed should be doing better as continues playing for warriors look back n 2015 2017 if you didn’t win now basketball you where banned from being warriors what true difference right now
Curry should go to Philly and team up with Embiid and Maxie it would rekindle his desire and career.
The end of the Warriors will be the mountain of bandwagons that came for the Steph, Klay and Draymond experience. Clinging to the old instead of moving on will hold the Warriors downfall for years, I bet.
Beal Okogie Gordan and 5 first 4 Curry
i hope curry comes to LA
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The Lakers are one of the few teams with good players they could afford to trade for him. It would instantly make them a contender this year and for the next 1 or 2 (until LeBron retires). If Kyrie wasn't hurt all the time it would be possible for Dallas to give up him and a good young player to help both teams. Not sure who else is competitive that needs a pure shooter with average PG skills that only has 2 or 3 years left.
@@SDesWriterwho would they give up if you wanna keep AD and LeBron
you cant get markannen without kuminga
Golden State needs to blow it up they can't do anything i feel like to win another championship. Steph is on the decline whilst still being elite.
He would be real nice in Denver
100% Steph had it!!!! Fire GM, coach Kerr, they ain’t doing shit plus what the fuck owner doing from last year nothing one of this people has to step in otherwise step should go another team for sure this is not good
Curry needs Jordan Poole back.
The warriors shoot 3s and the lakers drive and the warriors have no paint d. So yeah they are gonna have more free throws
🎉 Enabling draymond cost them big
Agree 100%.
The downfall of the Warriors started with drafting Wiseman they should of gotten LaMelo instead or package that lucrative #2 pick teams was thirsty to get for a proven player or even a bonafide star like possibly Beal. Then after Draymond punched the talent outta Poole along with Wiggins mind blowing decend we were toast. Losing Poole was hard but if Wiggins played like he did in 2022 along with the rookies we have and CP3 guidance we still would of been in a better position but Wiggins unexplained decline really killing us. You also have to look at Kerr's baffling rotations they suck he's trying to hold back the young guys by appeasing to the vets like Klay who should be coming off the bench at this stage in his career. Moody should of been given Klay's spot but Kerr doesn't have the balls for that. Getting Murray and Capella (especially Murray before the Lakers snatches him up) would do wonders for this team. Also love Looney but in all honesty his defense or lack there of is killing us. CP3, Moody, Joseph, Wiggins and a frp should be enough to get Murray and Capella.
1st as always 🫡
never in doubt 🤝
Just Rebuild none of those trades make us contenders
trade Steph?
@@getlikecoop yes warriors should trade the whole core klay doesn’t deserve another max and I doubt the warriors gonna give him the money he wants they way he been this team can’t make any moves that will make them contenders without trading their young guys and trading their young guys is a bad idea
Hell no Steph has to be a lifer
Keeping Steph, Dray and Klay. That doesn't mean they'll be the core anymore though. Personally, I'd build a Lineup around Steph that doesn't even involve the other two.
@@XZA.B three team with the jazz and hawks we get Lauri,Murray and capela jazz get hunter,griffin,2frps,2srps, hawks get klay,Wiggins,Chris Paul,Clarkson
Come to the Lakers Steph Curry
This is what's wrong with the NBA this is the reason the ratings are collapsing the networks keep showing the same old stale as teams like the warriors and the Lakers over and over and over people are tired of that b******* they need to be showing the Timberwolves or the thunder and the ratings would go up
I would trade Kaminga for Markkanen in a heart beat no Brainer.
Steph Curry need to come to The Lakers
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As a Warriors Fan, I'd be 100% fine with Curry leaving at this point. He'll still be my favorite player, and I won't feel anyway about it. He's done so much for this Franchise, he doesn't deserve what he's going through right now. Being an MVP Candidate Level Player and your team just destroying itself around you.
@@XZA.B I respect Steph Curry as a Lakers fan
Lakers will have to send half their team and it still won't be enough unless they add AD in it.. And only a moron would do that because without AD Lakers would be trash..
@@kishorhegde7218 That Cap
One thing that I hardly disagree on. Lauryn is not a game changer on defense. For his height and size he is a bad rebounder and a bad rim protector and his lateral movement is shit, he cannot defend 1-5
What they get for not drafting lamelo ball when they had the chance 😂
The greatest PG to ever play?? Calm down he not even close
They should blow the whole thing up while they can still get a haul of picks for Steph. Build around Jk, Podz, Moodey, and TJD. I’d trade everyone else for whatever I can get.
Are you trying to make the fans NOT come to the arena? If Steph goes..ticket sales plummet like Bud Light stock did last year. 🤣🤣
@@mwebster3265 😂 . Steph or no Steph, a loosing team is a loosing team. Steph’s 36, and guess what? His value is about to plummet like stocks did last year as well. I’d sell high.
@@TakinProfit He's not just 36, he's a 36 year-old who requires an offensive scheme of him running around like he's in a track meet for 40 minutes a game to get his open shots. Without them these younger guys who are quicker than him are going to make his shots even tougher to come by. Without effective enough players at 2-5 he is always going to have the pressure on his shoulders to play like he's 26. He only keeps getting older from here on out.....
Curry should team up with Bron in LA.
I've been saying since BEFORE the season began that they had already hit the wall and should trade Steph (with his permission) to a contender to give him the chance to get another ring, and either get some really good draft picks or a couple of impact players to keep them alive a little longer. Personally I'd dump Klay as well to a more traditional offense so he could get his shots a little easier (Miami? Denver?) and fill both spots with young players with a future. Ride out the season without making the playoffs (which they might miss anyway) and come back in 2025 with a young team that can play hard built around Wiggins and Kuminga plus a couple of their good bench players. Do it right and the Warriors will be competing for a Championship in 5 years. Stick with what they've got and you'll lose Steph, Klay, Looney, and Draymond after 2 - 3 years of being mediocre and find themselves flat out BAD with no plan.
Free throws wasn’t even the reason they lost to the lakers. The lakers are a physical team and curry and klay combine almost shot over 40 3’s and that’s just curry and klay so imagine what the team did.
They definitely targeted by refs,
43 FT, to GWS 16 FT is wild.
That’s what happens when you shoot 60 3s maybe drive more instead of chucking shots up
Trade Cp3 and Wiggins for Murray
There is not much problem in GSW.
The problem is that now the other teams are doing great what GSW was doing great before.
They know how GSW works. They are used to it. But GSW are not used to the way the other teams respond to them.
Things have changed but GSW didn't change much. It's natural. Every team has 3 point shooters.
They do it as well as GSW. GSW dynasty members are getting old. They have no strong rim protectors.
How could they possibly win? It's harrrrrrrd. It's proven. GSW's good old days gone.
IT IS THE PAST.
Lebron and the refs, 43 vs 16 FT. Is really hard to beat
The warriors had 60 threes.
Trade Green and Moody right now. Its time fir Green and Moody has enough value to get something. Klay ya ass on the chopping block too.
It’s all Jordan Pole fault
Trade looney corey joseph wiggins and some picks for Markkanen
I don’t believe the magic will come in the form of any particular trade of players. The difficult truth is the Warrior organization lacks the guts to make the tough decisions associated with meaningful change. Coach Kerr and most, perhaps, all of his coaching staff must go; immediately. The trading of players is useless if Kerr maintains. Kerr is not the leader today’s NBA style of play demands. The reality is and has always been, Kerr has never impressed anyone with his in game adjustments. He is inflexible and simply doesn’t have that dynamic kind of juice. The savvy insight of veteran players and the out of this world skill set of the splash brothers and others, got this organization to the mountain top. Oops, Kerr’s motion offense was also a key factor, however that was then and now requires new; as in new leadership!
Kuminga looks old
Wiggins have to go
Trust free throws had nothing to do with this L when your team shooting 60 threes to the lakers shoot 27 Lakers where attacking the paint that simple you guys died by the 3
get kd back
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Trade everyone but Curry
Magic is the greatest pg of all time coop and tbh, I don't even hate the warriors anymore. They are so ass😂.
Bro Steph is Way better than magic Johnson Steph is 36 Years Okd Still playing at an elite level