I worked with an ex-royal navy engineer. He told me about a time when he was on a ship (frigate) in the arctic circle looking for a Russian sub and was on deck with with binoculars looking for periscopes. He told me that one of these monsters surfaced next to their ship, a good ten times the size! Apparently someone was at the top of the conning tower waving as all hell broke loose on board the ship. By the time they had gone to battle stations, the sub had submerged again. He told me it was the biggest thing he'd ever seen in his life, it totally dwarfed the ship he was on.
Wouldn't that be funny as hell if the Russian Captain just said hey I was just wondering if you had a cigarette? Then just laughed and slam the hatch, just to piss the yanks off lol
Must have been some sight...Things like this you can't realise the size until you see them in person but this even looks huge on photos so couldn't imagine it in person
Most are declassified now and quite a lot of them can be visited during the summertime as they are marketed as tourist destinations. There are a few YT videos but most are in Swiss-German. If you have the opportunity to visit one, try the www.sasso-sangottardo.ch.
Can't agree more! The swiss bunker system is flat out crazy. Like all healthy swiss men I served in the military. I was in the bunker troops and spent a lot of time in the swiss mountains. As the previous commenter @Peter Pluim correctly stated, most bunkers in Switzerland are declassified and many are museums. Please Simon do a video about it. You will laugh a lot about the absurdity of the swiss bunkers. Like for example one of the cannon systems used in many bunkers was from a very very bad tank called "Centurion". The tank was a gigantic failure but the cannon was superb for this time. So they just took the cannons and mounted them in the bunkers. They didn't even know if this will work! xD Look it up! Regards from Switzerland :)
@@agschwend You!! I was gonna ask for someone Swiss who has the insider info on this, because my brother lives there now but doesn't know what YOU know obviously! There's so much to SEE, I'd love to know what's hidden!!
Just started watching this channel. Out of the 700 channels you host, this has to be the best balance of your professional presentation and your casual commentary.
No, an actual typhoon still has far more destructive power, it just isn't targeted specifically at locations that humans care about like nuclear missiles are.
He didnt sound like speaking. He just repeated a few words. Separately, not like speaking. You have to sound natural even if you have no idea what you are saying. I had to make a speech in my own wedding in a language I didnt speak. Nobody was impressed with the first sentence, though I was told it sounded good. It got quiet when I said the second, and I could hear 300 people gasping for air simultaneously when I went for the third. I dont know much russian, but I know in the opening scene, Connery is cringe worthy. If you want to sound like you know what you say, its the same in all languages. Speak quickly enough, pack the words together rather than separate. You are going to speak badly, but foreigners speak badly because they try too much, native speakers speak badly because they are lazy. You still cant do it properly, but you can still make it sound natural.
I saw a Typhoon class sub at St Petersburg Russia once. It is massive beyond imagination. Should be called one of the seven technological wonders of the modern world.
@@neilgriffiths6427 yes of course, in 60's, the bigger your vessel was, more was the firepower. Thankfully the world never saw the real monsters in action, otherwise I may not be writing my comment here.
Soviets really did build some of the most impressive machines the world has ever seen. I'm fascinated by these creations. Biggest helicopter, biggest plane, biggest submarine and biggest aircraft carrier are all Soviet tech. So interesting!
Neither the reactor nor warheads would be triggered by a fire, so this video has a lot of shit in it. His desicions probably helped save his crew though so yes big balls and respect.
@@niemanickurwa yeah I suspect what this guy is saying, at times it feels like he mocks the behemoth, how dare he. Anyways I'm an Indian and I'll speak for our past allies, soviets once helped us to get nuclear sub technologies.
"Well, maybe it's it's enough to get someone on to inspect it. Call it whatever you want, uh, a coast guard safety inspection". "Ok, when do you leave?".
@@777jones they did, AFTER the missile was designed the missile team called the shipyard and gave them the dimensions of the missile that should be mounted on the boat
more like "No, Comrad Minister for Defense Production, we cannot fit missile on submarine because the missile is too big, unless of course, you want to make submarine as big as Vasili's mama hahahahahaha.... ha ha... .... I'm sorry Comrad Minister, did you just ask "How big is Vasili's mama?"" -Soviet Engineer.
The primary reason that the Typhoon was so much larger than anything else was the way they were employed. Typhoons typically sortied into the White Sea from their base on the Kola peninsula and then sat quietly on the bottom until called into action or returned to their base. Because of this they needed to be large enough to accommodate their crews for extended periods of time and additional facilities such as a swimming pool and gymnasium were required along with storage for food and other sundry items. The twin pressure hull design was necessary to keep them stable and provide enough flotation to allow them to rise and penetrate the heavy overhead ice on the White sea for launching their missiles and also provided a superior ability for crew survival in case of damage and possible sinking. Single hull designs proved to be unworkable when tested for purpose.
I'm just surprised the Soviet Union accounted for crew comfort in any way, even though we all know submarine crews can literally go insane without such things. I suppose the crews should just be happy that the typhoons weren't designed in the early days of soviet subs, i'm sure those were literal hell.
No. The primary reason for it's size and double pressure hulls were the much larger ballistic missiles than their US counterparts. Several of the cheif engineers have written books on the subject.
All boomers have the same mission and spend a lot of time at sea, the crew conditions were the same requirement for all them. Not sure about sitting at the bottom of the ocean though. Don’t think that made any sense.
This is actually not the case. The fact is that the sea rocket SATAN WAS VERY LARGE and weighed almost 100 tons each and there were 20 of them, and in order for one salvo to launch all 20 missiles at the same time, a very strong and large body with a large displacement was needed. imagine that when missiles are launched, a force equal to more than 2000 tons acts on the submarine's hull, which pulls the submarine to the bottom
The funniest thing I remember hearing was Russian sailors of these ships actually started calling them Typhoons too, after hearing the NATO designation, simply because they found the name cooler.
I've heard that a similar thing happened with a few other things that the Soviets liked the NATO name for like the Tu-95, aka "Bear," and MiG-29, aka "Fulcrum."
steven heckert - Actually... If this is the double wide Russian sub (haven’t finished watching) it actually DID have a swimming pool inside. Not joking! The pictures make it look like a large 12 man jacuzzi, but it did indeed have a pool. Good joke though!
I'm sure there must've been someone in the Soviet Navy must have been annoyed by NATO calling their Shchuka-class SSN the Akula. "Vasya, are you sure these NATO designations are correct?" "Yes, Comrade Admiral." "I swear they're doing it deliberately to mess with me, Vasya. We name our submarine the Akula, they call it a Typhoon. We name a submarine the Shchuka, they call it an Akula." "Yes, Comrade Admiral."
"Vasya but in English there is no word AKULA?, maybe they're just crazy by studying our "fish" Project 971 "Pike-B" (Shchuka-B) - (NATO "Akula") variant _steel body_ from Project 945 "Barracuda" (Sea *Pike* ) _titanium body_ , NATO «Sierra-I» the next generation from Project 671RTM(K) "Pike" this is a modification of project 671RT "Salmon" made based on the project 671 "Ruffe" Series SH- ("Pike" slang name) medium submarines USSR in the WWII
@Eugene Baranov “We must have run the Imperialists out of their phonetic alphabet designations they’ve been using, Comrade Admiral. I suppose we should be glad we’re not in the air force. You should have heard the Tu-22M pilots complaining when they heard what NATO’s calling their planes.” “Well, that makes me feel a little better I suppose. They’re not just messing with me.”
I used to build Typhoon subs all of the time when playing as the Soviets in Red Alert 2, so I think I know a thing or two about commanding these submarines, if anyone has any questions. The key is to pair them up with a bunch of mind controlled squids. Just a bit of a spoiler for you.
those thing were annoying to the point that i often considered not building a navel yard at all since it would save the effort of building a ton of destroyers just for base defense, atleast yuri's subs couldnt be ignored entirely due to possessing cruise missiles that could harm land targets
Fun fact, the russians used these massive subs as temporary power stations for small coastal cities at one point. The nuclear cores on these subs were dangerously powerful.
After a typhoon (a natural one, NOT a Soviet sub...I promise) put a wallop on Hawaii, several of the fast attacks stationed at Pearl Harbor were used to supply power to part of the grid.
Fun fact: the Typhoon’s physical dimensions are on par with a World War I era battleship. And it’s displacement is on par with late WWII era battleships.
Are there any new Simon Whistler channels I don't know about? I'm trying to complete the subscription set. Does the viewer get free access to a secret channel if they manage to find and subscribe to them all? I want to level-up.
As far as I know, he has 9 channels: Geographics Biographics Business Blaze Visual Politik EN Today I found Out Top Tenz Highlight History Mega Projects Simon Whistler He also has/had a podcast called The Rocking Self Publishing Podcast and The BrainFood show If I missed any, please give it a mention.
You are building Subnarine that would be on several months long missions underwater, u need to have things to keep men heathy and motivated. and u have place for that thing,....
@retsaM innavoiG Russia could literally nuke the US completely out of existence in about 20 minutes and US influence in the world is seriously on the wane and has been for years.
The Japanese I-400 class submarine was the first sub to use two parallel hulls. It was used as an aircraft carrier and could carry three seaplanes in a water tight hangar on her deck.
"I think it has a swimming pool inside, anyway, we're going to jump into it."...very nicely done, Simon Whistler, and the writer(s) for Simon Whistler....
The way that Red October ends the Konovalov in the book is so much more badass. But the game of sub chicken in the film is cool also (if not far fetched)
For anyone that wants to learn more, Sub Breif has a video on the Typhoon Class as well that goes into much more technical detail and has tons of pictures inside and out, building through completion. Very interesting presentation with lots of info you probably won't find anywhere else
I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And i will drive a pickup truck or perhaps a recreational vehicle.
And, thats actually true. What does it bring to have one but no one knowing about it? A state generally does not want to end the world, because they also live on it. So having one and not letting your enemies know defeats its purpose. Name scaring everybody so much no one is going to attack you.
At 14:04, Simon says that the fire on board the Typhoon submarine was in danger of causing ". . . several nuclear explosions." That is most emphatically NOT true! If the fire had reached one of the nuclear reactors, the worse that could happen would be a steam explosion and/or a core melt-down. A nuclear reactor cannot generate a nuclear explosion since its fuel is not "weapons grade." If the fire had reached the submarine's nuclear warheads, they would not have generated a nuclear explosion because a fusion weapon needs a fission core as an initiator and the explosive blocks that compress the fission core to critical density can only work if they are detonated by extremely precise electrical pulses that must be timed to the 0.1 microsecond. A fire would cause the explosive blocks to detonate randomly - thus no nuclear explosion.
It still technically "Nuclear" as even if the uranium in the core doesn't reach critical mass, the core would be ripped apart thus spreading radioactive material
Seems like an important distinction despite the massive damage to the surrounding area. I wonder what would happen if there was a mass of fissioning material melting down at the bottom of the ocean. Wouldn't the sudden boiling of all the water around the reactor material cause an explosion?
Also, they wouldn't have had rocket fuel leaking all over everything, because like most such missiles, the R39 used solid-fueled motors. You'd have to be mad (even by the standards of nuclear weapons) to use liquid-fueled rockets on a submarine... it means you'd need extra storage for the fuel, you'd need equipment for fuelling them, and if you actually need to fire them, it'll take you half an hour to get them ready to go.
There was a third reason... beyond the larger missiles it needed to accommodate and the national prestige garnered by being the largest vessel of its kind, it needed to be able to accommodate simply massive amounts of dry stores (food, everyday goods used the crew etc.) as it was designed to survive a nuclear exchange (thereafter likely being unable to replenish such things, the only limiting factors on a nuclear boat's endurance, for quite some time).
@ASCALON it is up to you to provide that evidence. The entire world except for China, Russia, NK, and Venezuela and a few if their soi's disagree with you. Go due. I didn't misspell that
I can just imagine the look on the Chief's face when the Captain turned to him and issued the command. " Chief secure for dive ! " "Sir?" "Take her down now Chief!" The pucker factor was thru the roof!
The order would have been; " Chief, rig for dive ! " and the order would have been given to the Officer of the Deck who in turn would have given it to the Chief who would have passed the word to the crew.
Not so illogical really. The submarine is highly compartmentalised, you have a fire in one of those compartments from rocket fuel that burns at a high temperature and would be impossible to put out. You have a hole to the sea. Submerge to periscope depth to flood the compartment was the only viable option. I was thinking this before it was mentioned. Russian subs have a much higher level of buoyancy than Western subs, they ride a lot higher in the water and take more water ballast to submerge them. Flooding the missile compartment on a Ohio would not be viable and I believe it would sink it. Thankfully US SSBNs have used stolid fuel since the Polaris missiles on the George Washington class of the '50/60s.
@@briananthony4044 :I agree with the Captains choice. It was logical. I have had the opportunity to do work on both a Russian "Foxtrot" and a Russian "Juliette" class submarines on display in the US. These boats have no frills and I have even heard first hand from a WW II US SubVet that his thoughts on the Foxtrot were not favorable. He thought the "S" class submarine he was on in WW II (built in the 1920's) was a better built sub than the Russian. His opinion. Myself having been on both a US Diesel sub and a Nuclear sub felt they (Russian) were crudely built. Like I said, No Frills.
"What boooksh?" "What" "What boooksh did you write?" "ahh I wrote a biography on Admiral Halsey about naval combat tactics...." "I know thish booook....your conclusions were all wrong Ryan, Halsey acted shtupidly ".
Hello Simon, I have discovered an error in this documentary. The SSN-20 nuclear missiles, did NOT had a weight of 75 tons, but 90 tons. But despite this little error, I have loved watching it! So, keep up the good work Simon!
Sean Connery as a captain of the Death Star in the movie called "Imperial October" :D Typhoon Class Submarine was built to operate in the arctic circle for extended periods of time. It's reinforced hull is strong enough to be an ice breaker, and large enough to accommodate crew's comfort. It's main goal was to break the ice, and unleash payload. North Pole is the shortest flight path for the ballistic missile. US submarines and warships cannot operate in the Arctic for periods required, so they built early warning systems in Canada
FYI, nuclear weapons don't go nuclear by merely being burned. Yes the fire can set off the conventional explosives surrounding the fissile material, but it would do so in a lopsided manner while initiating a nuclear explosion requires all the conventional explosives to detonate simultaneously. Of course it could have still spread a lot of radioactive material and contaminated the nearby area, but that's a far cry from the bombs undergoing nuclear explosions.
All of these comments are good, but looking back at it, the engineering safe guards worked (with a little luck I think). Even with multiple broken arrow incidences on both sides, we didn't ever accidentally nuke any bystanding nations....pretty amazing. I think God had a hand in it. Maybe he wasn't ready to end the World, so he sure as hell wasn't going to let us fuck up his timeline.
@@mattpeacock5208 engineers not stupid. They engineers are not idiots, they work through almost everything to be sure of the safety of nuclear warheads.
Great video, but a couple things. I served in the US Navy Submarine service from 89-99 and can tell you that both the United States Ohio class and the Russian Typhoon (Akula class) were NOT designed to "destroy the world". Yes, they carried robust nuclear weapons but the mission was (and still is) a DETERRENT against anyone launching a first strike -- it is a lose-lose proposition. I served on both Los Angeles Class Fast Attack subs (SSN) and the pre-Ohio class SSBN's. The other thing is that fire cannot set off a nuclear warhead, it doesn't work that way. I agree with you that the Russian Captain was a hero, the real risk was reactor fuel getting into the ocean. The Typhoon was an amazing piece of engineering, though, even by today's standards.
My god Todd that must of been a hell of a experience serving on those amazing submarines. The technology is just off the charts even by today’s standards. I know this sounds like a silly question but was there much room on board? I know there isn’t a massive amount of space, but I can’t imagine they were like the German u boats and WW2 allied subs to serve in that were tiny compared to the subs today…
They were designed to destroy a large part of the world, so they could be used as a deterrent. A fire will not set off a warhead, but it can certainly cause a loss of containment. The hazard is radioactive contamination, not a nuclear explosion.
i have this classic movie on VHS , time to watch it again. it's only been played once since i purchased it new in 2007 . vhs movies were being sold at discount prices back then.
The Typhoon is an awesome SSBN. I tracked a lot of suds while I was in the Navy, but never got track the Typhoon. It's also interesting that The Hunt for Red October is based on a Soviet Krivak Frigate and was changed to the submarine in the book.
The typhoon is one of my favorite “vehicles”. I’d love to see one someday. Guess I’ll just have to give Simon “that sweeeeeet watch time” more than once.
I got to see the Dmitrij donskoj a few years ago, it was cool. It went past the Coast of sweden and Denmark when it was going up for a military drill in.
I was lucky enough to get a tour of the USS Seawolf as a kid, this was just before 9/11. I heard they suspeneded tours on certain ships like nuclear subs for awhile for "national security" and im not sure theyre still doing them or not.
Working for a company that manufactures armaments, some of the missiles we build for sub use are up to 5 stories tall. Crazy that that’s considered compact compared to the ones used on the Typhoon. Those must’ve been huge.
Simon I really like this more candid, and relaxed approach on this channel. On your other channels some may feel you're just a smooth talking documentary host. But here you feel at home, like a guy I'd discuss these things with at the pub.
Ryan No. At one point he did say ten missiles. It carried twenty. Ten warheads per missile: 200 warheads. Essentially, enough to obliterate the United States. So, if you lost track of one of these, doing anything naughty could go very badly... (The real contest was in tracking each other’s boats. The Soviets also had an advantage in maximum dive depth - they could just sit on the bed of the Arctic - and deployment depth for the missiles. I believe the US later figured out how to deploy missiles from even greater depth, but as facts are difficult to come across there are likely to be few to zero people who know for sure.)
@@boggisthecat One thing we Norwegian experienced with Russian submarine, was how noisy they was. firstly due to there reactors, wasn't as silent as the Americans, but secondly and most importantly, the propellers on Russian submarine wasn't perfect, they didn't have assess to high precision technology to produce accurate propellers, until that day in the 80's when they managed to lure some politician and got hold of computers and tools from Siemens (If I am not remembering wrong). we used to jokingly say that we could here them leave port in North Russia! Norwegian Navy would occasionally "test" fire there ASW system on random.... or totally randomly a Navy frigate would suddenly change curse for no reason. there is going a rumor about a Norwegian submarine that managed to snuck up on a Soviet submarine and then just started to play music... loud! But secondly, Norway had together with CIA, sonar cable and listening cable on the seafloor, from Norway to Island, in several places, and they are still active today... Russia is not so happy about that....
The metaphor he used 10:50 to describe the power of the sub was classic and somewhat accurate. "Stop attacking us or we will blow up the world". Funny but scary and there are multiple subs in the Russian and US Navy with that capability. If they all pressed the button at the same time they could essentially turn earth into an asteroid field.
“Went down in a helicopter crash in the Mediterranean. Spent his third year in traction learning to walk again. So you might want to cut the kid some slack”
The real inspiration for Red October was an incident in the Baltic in 1975. It was on a frigate, not a submarine, the political officer had the brilliant idea of a new revolution to revitalize the system and wipe out corruption and managed to convince much of the crew to go along with it and locked up the ones who were against it. They were hunted by the rest of the Soviet forces when it was discovered. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_frigate_Storozhevoy
As I saw the reference to the "Hunt of the Red October", it is good to point out that the officers and crews of the Typhoon class were among the best and most loyal in the entire Soviet fleet. The crews were well trained and knew that the purpose and role of these subs is't to come close to the US mainland as it was portrayed in the movie. If a captain would order a risky undertaking as in the movie, he would be immediately removed from command for incompetence and endangering the crew (and shot at the slightest suspicion for possible defection). Still a good movie though. Additionally, the Typhoon operated in relatively close proximity to patrol routes of friendly hunter-killer subs for additional protection from potential hostile encounters. For a Typhoon to reach the US mainland just to defect is impossible.
This man is starting to slowly take over UA-cam I love it! Simon my man do an episode about the Burj Khalifa. My parents moved to Dubai recently and I had the opportunity to go and check it out. As an engineer I would love to know all the technical details behind this mega structure in a “Simon Whistler presents” kinda way
Didn't even get to the half way point of this video before I went & downloaded the movie. Welllllll why not watch the thing for the 20th time I say. For anyone younger whose never watched it, it really is a classic & well worth a watch.
Simon, your pleasant personality and clear way of speaking is as attractive as the very important subjects you cover. And cover them well, and to the best of my knowledge, accurately too. Good job and very well done, very entertaining.
Indeed a marvel of engineering, one of the wonders of the modern world. I hope they make one or more into a museum and use another for research. That size and the silos have to be useful for something like sensors for mapping or maybe putting out weather/current monitoring buoys. Maybe I'm weird but I just want it to be used for SOMETHING. It deserves to be something other than nothing.
To Mr. Simon Whistler: I would dearly love to see a biographics video on the captain of the Soviet naval ship called the Century. Why is that important you ask... because that was the original and true inspiration to Tom Clancy for writing the hunt for red October. Let’s just say it didn’t end well for the ships political officer. From what I understand, he retired from the Navy and was given a 9 mm severance package. 😞
LOVED this video, always been amazed by the Typhoon class submarines, ever since reading Tom's book & then seeing the Sean Connery film, I still watch it from time to time & am still amazed by it. Please keep these incredible videos coming, they are fantastic. Thank you.
@@Fleshox19-uz3qt USS Enterprise, the crash footage was real footage of a crash of an F9F - Panther on a test flight in 1951, and idk about in the movie, but the real pilot walked away with minor burns and returned to duty.
6:50 Let's be clear here. Each nation fielded enough nuclear weapons to destroy the other twenty times not as a flight of ego but as a strategic necessity, based on the assumption that the other nation was capable of wiping out 95% of their nuclear weapons in a first strike. The 5% remaining had to be enough to destroy the attacking country in a retaliatory strike - mutually assured destruction, which supposedly guaranteed that no one would ever deliberately be the first to push the button.
Good explanation. Also, having more weapons than the enemy is effective deterrence. Deterrence seems to be the best weapon of war; stopping it from occurring entirely
@@Ifraneljadida Actually, diplomacy is the best way of avoiding a war. Having a capability to seriously mess up the other side just shows how dedicated you are to that diplomacy. Merely building a huge amount of weapons makes you a threat, a threat best dealt with by pre-emptive strike starting a war. "War is the continuation of politics by other means." Von Clausewitz.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Diplomacy only works if you're on the same military level. Otherwise you'll be diplomatically beaten down. In order to negotiate you should have the strength and power to be listened to.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 north Korea have nuclear weapons. Now guess why US don't mess with them anymore other than economically? And why north Koreans don't give a damn about it. We had a cold war instead of a WW3 because Joseph Stalin managed to make some nuclear bomb too very quickly and also had the biggest and the best army on the planet at that time. Otherwise i wouldn't be commenting here as my grandparents would be turned in to radioactive ashes. Thank you uncle Joe.
BTW the book "The Hunt for Red October" was much better. Trying to make the movie truer to the book would have been impossible politically or economically. If the movie The Hunt for red October is a favorite of yours then try the book Red Storm Rising. It is a tough book to follow in some ways. There are many well-defined characters and subplots throughout the book. Tom Clancy almost got in trouble with the US for disclosing national secrets in The Hunt for Red October. He showed them all the information was in the public domain. The Navy and the CIA and the FBI had collective heart failure. They then hired him to show how to do research.
@@jeffborders5526 Hollywood can't get Dr Seus right. As for Tom Clancy books. The closest they go0t was Red October. Clear and Present Danger, meh. The Sum of All Fears was pretty much trashed for the movie.
@@jeffborders5526 Generally a good metric, but among Clancy books, THfRO is a novella. John Rodriquez, THfRO was originally published by the Naval Institute Press, an imprint of the US Naval Institute. While it is technically private, it is also HQed on the Annapolis campus. Your second paragraph is largely a bunch of Clancy mythology.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer ..The Hunt for Red October is one of my favorite movies...for the acting...NO! - For the cinematography...NO! - for the STORY!...so well put together...
I was involved with the US Navy IUSS Program and as such responsible for tracking adversaries submarines. While this was a massive sea going vessel it sounded like a train wreck when underway. Each time it pulled from the pier we knew when and where it was almost at all times. Speaking of IUSS Systems, this would make for a great megaproject episode. Project Ceaser was its code name and before it was over thousands of miles of cables and hydrophones were laid about on the sea floor merely for the purposes of tracking Soviet subs during the cold war. Our systems were magnificent and then the Johnny Walker turncoat spilled the beans on our abilities and tactics.
Although in general i dont support it, He deserved the death penalty. I don't think we will ever truly know the extent of harm he caused to our nation's security.
I worked with an ex-royal navy engineer. He told me about a time when he was on a ship (frigate) in the arctic circle looking for a Russian sub and was on deck with with binoculars looking for periscopes. He told me that one of these monsters surfaced next to their ship, a good ten times the size! Apparently someone was at the top of the conning tower waving as all hell broke loose on board the ship. By the time they had gone to battle stations, the sub had submerged again. He told me it was the biggest thing he'd ever seen in his life, it totally dwarfed the ship he was on.
That is the lesser known Russian submarine maneuver 'Surprise Dimitri'!
@@danieljob3184 not "Surprise Mofoskis!"?
Wouldn't that be funny as hell if the Russian Captain just said hey I was just wondering if you had a cigarette? Then just laughed and slam the hatch, just to piss the yanks off lol
Must have been some sight...Things like this you can't realise the size until you see them in person but this even looks huge on photos so couldn't imagine it in person
What ship were you on?
I don't know how much information is available but Switzerland's bunker systems would be cool to learn about.
Most are declassified now and quite a lot of them can be visited during the summertime as they are marketed as tourist destinations. There are a few YT videos but most are in Swiss-German. If you have the opportunity to visit one, try the www.sasso-sangottardo.ch.
@@peterpluim7912 I would love to, though it's a little difficult currently
Can't agree more! The swiss bunker system is flat out crazy. Like all healthy swiss men I served in the military. I was in the bunker troops and spent a lot of time in the swiss mountains. As the previous commenter @Peter Pluim correctly stated, most bunkers in Switzerland are declassified and many are museums. Please Simon do a video about it. You will laugh a lot about the absurdity of the swiss bunkers. Like for example one of the cannon systems used in many bunkers was from a very very bad tank called "Centurion". The tank was a gigantic failure but the cannon was superb for this time. So they just took the cannons and mounted them in the bunkers. They didn't even know if this will work! xD Look it up! Regards from Switzerland :)
@@agschwend You!!
I was gonna ask for someone Swiss who has the insider info on this, because my brother lives there now but doesn't know what YOU know obviously! There's so much to SEE, I'd love to know what's hidden!!
Or the Swedish one, we have the largest one under Stockholm (depending on how you count, a discussion still going on in certain circles )
Just started watching this channel. Out of the 700 channels you host, this has to be the best balance of your professional presentation and your casual commentary.
All of his Channel talk similar shit 😂
That moment when you realize that a typhoon class submarine may actually have more destructive potential than a literal typhoon
Good point, And probably many times more in terms of death and destruction. Thats scary.
That's a very interesting way to look at it. Kudos to you sir.
For sure, a couple of those missiles and whatever coastal nation you hit is down a million or two people at least.
No, an actual typhoon still has far more destructive power, it just isn't targeted specifically at locations that humans care about like nuclear missiles are.
@@deusexaethera are you being serious? A typhoon is nowhere near as destructive as 200 NUKES.
"I would have liked to have seen Montana." And scene!
Justin Salopek that line always stuck with me.
That line always got to me, made me a little sad. It was a fantastic job by Sam Niell.
No papers
Justin Salopek and he did. He became a paleontologist
as someone from Montana he really did miss a hell of a place, it is wonderful.
I would have liked to have seen Montana
Maybe I will have 2 wives.
Awwwwww!
And raise rabbits!!
@@stevek4449 And she could cook them for me
USS Montana?
Only Sean Connery can speak Russian with a Scottish accent.
Yesh
David Comrade!
Just sayin'...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Russians
Or like any Scotsman who happens to speak Russian
He didnt sound like speaking. He just repeated a few words. Separately, not like speaking.
You have to sound natural even if you have no idea what you are saying.
I had to make a speech in my own wedding in a language I didnt speak.
Nobody was impressed with the first sentence, though I was told it sounded good.
It got quiet when I said the second, and I could hear 300 people gasping for air simultaneously when I went for the third.
I dont know much russian, but I know in the opening scene, Connery is cringe worthy. If you want to sound like you know what you say, its the same in all languages. Speak quickly enough, pack the words together rather than separate. You are going to speak badly, but foreigners speak badly because they try too much, native speakers speak badly because they are lazy. You still cant do it properly, but you can still make it sound natural.
I saw a Typhoon class sub at St Petersburg Russia once. It is massive beyond imagination. Should be called one of the seven technological wonders of the modern world.
A bigger coffin, Schroedinger's cat gone mad.
So, it's big. Yup, very technological wonder.
I'd love to see that in person.
@@neilgriffiths6427 yes of course, in 60's, the bigger your vessel was, more was the firepower. Thankfully the world never saw the real monsters in action, otherwise I may not be writing my comment here.
Soviets really did build some of the most impressive machines the world has ever seen. I'm fascinated by these creations.
Biggest helicopter, biggest plane, biggest submarine and biggest aircraft carrier are all Soviet tech. So interesting!
Captain Grishkov must have needed a trolley to cart his giant steel balls around, what an absolute legend.
Nah Joseph Stanislav. Regular radar operator that didn’t push the button.
@@ObservationofLimits either of them, frankly.
Neither the reactor nor warheads would be triggered by a fire, so this video has a lot of shit in it. His desicions probably helped save his crew though so yes big balls and respect.
@@niemanickurwa yeah I suspect what this guy is saying, at times it feels like he mocks the behemoth, how dare he. Anyways I'm an Indian and I'll speak for our past allies, soviets once helped us to get nuclear sub technologies.
@@niemanickurwa that’s what I was thinking. It wouldn’t set them off but it would release radiation so that’s not good
"We're talking about several billion dollars worth of Soviet state property. They're going to want it back."
Love that line!
That's a good one, but the line about it sounding like whales humping was pretty awesome too.
"Well, maybe it's it's enough to get someone on to inspect it. Call it whatever you want, uh, a coast guard safety inspection". "Ok, when do you leave?".
@@sid6.764 👍
One of my favorites is towards the end, "Andrei, you've lost ANOTHER submarine?!"
I love Russian engineering solutions.
'We don't care if bomb is big; we just make bigger boat.'
amgclark I feel like they could have had a conference call to negotiate between missile team and submarine team
like the movie "Jaws":
-you will need a bigger boat
@@777jones Niet komrade, Party said big mothafukin boat.
@@777jones they did, AFTER the missile was designed the missile team called the shipyard and gave them the dimensions of the missile that should be mounted on the boat
more like
"No, Comrad Minister for Defense Production, we cannot fit missile on submarine because the missile is too big, unless of course, you want to make submarine as big as Vasili's mama hahahahahaha....
ha ha...
....
I'm sorry Comrad Minister, did you just ask "How big is Vasili's mama?""
-Soviet Engineer.
“Cold this morning, Captain.”
“Cold... and hard.”
The primary reason that the Typhoon was so much larger than anything else was the way they were employed. Typhoons typically sortied into the White Sea from their base on the Kola peninsula and then sat quietly on the bottom until called into action or returned to their base. Because of this they needed to be large enough to accommodate their crews for extended periods of time and additional facilities such as a swimming pool and gymnasium were required along with storage for food and other sundry items. The twin pressure hull design was necessary to keep them stable and provide enough flotation to allow them to rise and penetrate the heavy overhead ice on the White sea for launching their missiles and also provided a superior ability for crew survival in case of damage and possible sinking. Single hull designs proved to be unworkable when tested for purpose.
I'm just surprised the Soviet Union accounted for crew comfort in any way, even though we all know submarine crews can literally go insane without such things.
I suppose the crews should just be happy that the typhoons weren't designed in the early days of soviet subs, i'm sure those were literal hell.
Well that’s some sweet info. Thanks!
No. The primary reason for it's size and double pressure hulls were the much larger ballistic missiles than their US counterparts. Several of the cheif engineers have written books on the subject.
All boomers have the same mission and spend a lot of time at sea, the crew conditions were the same requirement for all them. Not sure about sitting at the bottom of the ocean though. Don’t think that made any sense.
This is actually not the case. The fact is that the sea rocket SATAN WAS VERY LARGE and weighed almost 100 tons each and there were 20 of them, and in order for one salvo to launch all 20 missiles at the same time, a very strong and large body with a large displacement was needed. imagine that when missiles are launched, a force equal to more than 2000 tons acts on the submarine's hull, which pulls the submarine to the bottom
The funniest thing I remember hearing was Russian sailors of these ships actually started calling them Typhoons too, after hearing the NATO designation, simply because they found the name cooler.
Well, it IS a fucking cool name.
In all honesty, Shark is more befitting of an attack sub than a big missile boat. Typhoon on the other hand could actually work for either.
@@USSEnterpriseA1701 Typhoon, storm komrade. Nookleer storm, da?
Should have kept Typhoon for ourselves!
I've heard that a similar thing happened with a few other things that the Soviets liked the NATO name for like the Tu-95, aka "Bear," and MiG-29, aka "Fulcrum."
The Hunt for Red October is - to this day - still the pinnacle of submarine movies. Absolutely epic.
One of the best military movies ever made.
It's an incredible movie but I'm on team Crimson Tide
People sleep on U-571
We shail into hishtory!
“Run Silent Run Deep” has both of them beat.
It doesn’t have an indoor swimming pool, but the outdoor pool is simply massive and chlorine free
I does strike me as a bit redundant
It_does
yeah but it also has fish pee so im good thanks
steven heckert You mean free chlorine?
There is more chlorine than what you can fit in a olympic size pool.
steven heckert - Actually... If this is the double wide Russian sub (haven’t finished watching) it actually DID have a swimming pool inside. Not joking! The pictures make it look like a large 12 man jacuzzi, but it did indeed have a pool. Good joke though!
I'm sure there must've been someone in the Soviet Navy must have been annoyed by NATO calling their Shchuka-class SSN the Akula.
"Vasya, are you sure these NATO designations are correct?"
"Yes, Comrade Admiral."
"I swear they're doing it deliberately to mess with me, Vasya. We name our submarine the Akula, they call it a Typhoon. We name a submarine the Shchuka, they call it an Akula."
"Yes, Comrade Admiral."
"Vasya but in English there is no word AKULA?, maybe they're just crazy by studying our "fish"
Project 971 "Pike-B" (Shchuka-B) - (NATO "Akula") variant _steel body_ from Project 945 "Barracuda" (Sea *Pike* ) _titanium body_ , NATO «Sierra-I» the next generation from Project 671RTM(K) "Pike" this is a modification of project 671RT "Salmon" made based on the project 671 "Ruffe"
Series SH- ("Pike" slang name) medium submarines USSR in the WWII
@Eugene Baranov “We must have run the Imperialists out of their phonetic alphabet designations they’ve been using, Comrade Admiral. I suppose we should be glad we’re not in the air force. You should have heard the Tu-22M pilots complaining when they heard what NATO’s calling their planes.”
“Well, that makes me feel a little better I suppose. They’re not just messing with me.”
@@Assassinus2 If the Tu-85 had made it into production, they would have had an even more embarrassing Nato code name to live with...
Dying. Not only is hunt for red October my dads career in the navy, my cats name is vasya!
😆😆😆
"Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only, please."
My morse is so rusty, I might be sending him dimensions of playmate oh the month...
I came here to post that! 😅
Ping ping
@@MrSpudz2 Morse*
@@x808drifter thank you, I didn’t notice the typo...
I used to build Typhoon subs all of the time when playing as the Soviets in Red Alert 2, so I think I know a thing or two about commanding these submarines, if anyone has any questions. The key is to pair them up with a bunch of mind controlled squids. Just a bit of a spoiler for you.
Dolphins and Destroyers = bad news for a Typhoon!
@@omkr0122 boomer submarine also!
those thing were annoying to the point that i often considered not building a navel yard at all since it would save the effort of building a ton of destroyers just for base defense, atleast yuri's subs couldnt be ignored entirely due to possessing cruise missiles that could harm land targets
Also the channel presenter kinda looks like Yuri. Coincidence,? I don't think so comrade.
I am loyal to Yuri.
I obey.
Fun fact, the russians used these massive subs as temporary power stations for small coastal cities at one point. The nuclear cores on these subs were dangerously powerful.
is this true ?
source for this? :D
After a typhoon (a natural one, NOT a Soviet sub...I promise) put a wallop on Hawaii, several of the fast attacks stationed at Pearl Harbor were used to supply power to part of the grid.
Wow
Fun fact...our subs can do that also
Fun fact: the Typhoon’s physical dimensions are on par with a World War I era battleship. And it’s displacement is on par with late WWII era battleships.
The size of Warspite, the weight of Iowa
"Be careful Ryan, some things in here don't react well to bullets.."
Ohh mannn
I don't react well to bullets. End scene.
I was gonna say that line. You beat me to it.
Shome thingsh in here don't react we to bulletsh lol
"Yeah, like me. I don't react well to bullets"
I love how you recognized his actions as heroic not thinking about sides.
Thanks!
Are there any new Simon Whistler channels I don't know about? I'm trying to complete the subscription set. Does the viewer get free access to a secret channel if they manage to find and subscribe to them all? I want to level-up.
EEVblog have you heard about Raid Shadow Legends? If you have you must be an OG Business Blaze viewer
All channels are Simon.
@@BaronVonQuiply all Simon are channels
Simon is everywhere and no where
Even during the first video "My Day at the Zoo" Simon was there.
As far as I know, he has 9 channels:
Geographics
Biographics
Business Blaze
Visual Politik EN
Today I found Out
Top Tenz
Highlight History
Mega Projects
Simon Whistler
He also has/had a podcast called The Rocking Self Publishing Podcast and The BrainFood show
If I missed any, please give it a mention.
@@Azivegu Visual Politik EN comes to mind.
Soviet Union: The West is decadent and spends money on frivolous luxuries.
Also the Soviet Union: Lets build a submarine with a swimming pool.
You are building Subnarine that would be on several months long missions underwater, u need to have things to keep men heathy and motivated. and u have place for that thing,....
@retsaM innavoiG definition of victory is fuzzy here
The sauna is where the crew bangs and the pool is the shame rinse down.
@retsaM innavoiG Russia could literally nuke the US completely out of existence in about 20 minutes and US influence in the world is seriously on the wane and has been for years.
Ryan Alt Are you 12?
Saw this at 11:32pm, just as sleepy time came around.
Had to then watch THFRO again.
Thanks Simon 😁
0:35 - Chapter 1 - A vast leviathan
5:00 - Chapter 2 - The cold war
7:50 - Chapter 3 - The shark
9:15 - Chapter 4 - Armaments
11:00 - Chapter 5 - Propulsion
12:05 - Chapter 6 - Moments from disaster
15:25 - Chapter 7 - As big as it gets
The Japanese I-400 class submarine was the first sub to use two parallel hulls.
It was used as an aircraft carrier and could carry three seaplanes in a water tight hangar on her deck.
They also used these planes to bomb the USA
The making of the movie is fantastic on how they used different lighting and such. Great movie.
Typhoon: I was once the biggest most important sub in the world.
Seawolf: OK Boomer.
Good pun LOL
@@Brownyman Thanks for getting it :)
LOL! Good one!
Nice! "Boomer" Here, please accept my upvote.
Don't mock us boomers. We put a man on the moon. The next generation put a man in a women's toilet!
May you rest in peace Sean Connery
"I think it has a swimming pool inside, anyway, we're going to jump into it."...very nicely done, Simon Whistler, and the writer(s) for Simon Whistler....
Yess, the Soviet leader clearly enjoyed that while only marginally longer, their favorite toy was substantially thicker.
Nailed it 🤙
Girth is important.
It’s not the size of the boat that’s important.. it’s all about the motion in the ocean..
But it had a higher chance of premature explosion and also endurance was far less.
"DAMN BOI HE THICC" every russian military guy when the first Typhoon was launched
“The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch” Capt Bart Mancuso
"Right full rudder, 30 degree down angle."
Dave S “this ones gonna be close!!!!”
The way that Red October ends the Konovalov in the book is so much more badass. But the game of sub chicken in the film is cool also (if not far fetched)
For anyone that wants to learn more, Sub Breif has a video on the Typhoon Class as well that goes into much more technical detail and has tons of pictures inside and out, building through completion. Very interesting presentation with lots of info you probably won't find anywhere else
Hunt for Red October is a classic. Plus, it even had Frank n Furter from Rocky Horror in it.
One ping Vasily, one ping only.
But Kaptain, I just...
Submarines always ping once. And than you die.
@BBB H Be careful what I'M shooting at?!
I would have liked to see Montana.
I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And i will drive a pickup truck or perhaps a recreational vehicle.
As we have learned from "Doctor Strangelove", any doomsday device is useless if you r enemy doesn't know about it.
And, thats actually true. What does it bring to have one but no one knowing about it? A state generally does not want to end the world, because they also live on it. So having one and not letting your enemies know defeats its purpose. Name scaring everybody so much no one is going to attack you.
And we cannot allow a mineshaft gap.
Also, I'll need at least 10 smokeshow ladies all to myself to ensure the survival of the American way of life.
The Premier loves surprises ...
Gentlemen, please! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!
FINALLY A QUALITY MOVIE THAT SIMON HAS SEEN!
"If you haven't seen "The Hunt for Red October." Who on EARTH has not.
chironapolonio me. I plan to correct this today! Hope it's as good as hyped!
I haven’t seen it... yet
🙋♂️
@@flarethecharizard648 Great movie 10/10
*slowly raises hand*
At 14:04, Simon says that the fire on board the Typhoon submarine was in danger of causing ". . . several nuclear explosions." That is most emphatically NOT true! If the fire had reached one of the nuclear reactors, the worse that could happen would be a steam explosion and/or a core melt-down. A nuclear reactor cannot generate a nuclear explosion since its fuel is not "weapons grade." If the fire had reached the submarine's nuclear warheads, they would not have generated a nuclear explosion because a fusion weapon needs a fission core as an initiator and the explosive blocks that compress the fission core to critical density can only work if they are detonated by extremely precise electrical pulses that must be timed to the 0.1 microsecond. A fire would cause the explosive blocks to detonate randomly - thus no nuclear explosion.
It still technically "Nuclear" as even if the uranium in the core doesn't reach critical mass, the core would be ripped apart thus spreading radioactive material
Bro this guy is a hippocrate.... He tells lies. And his viewers believe it
doesn't matter, the radiation leakage would be enough to devastate the area around
Seems like an important distinction despite the massive damage to the surrounding area. I wonder what would happen if there was a mass of fissioning material melting down at the bottom of the ocean. Wouldn't the sudden boiling of all the water around the reactor material cause an explosion?
Also, they wouldn't have had rocket fuel leaking all over everything, because like most such missiles, the R39 used solid-fueled motors. You'd have to be mad (even by the standards of nuclear weapons) to use liquid-fueled rockets on a submarine... it means you'd need extra storage for the fuel, you'd need equipment for fuelling them, and if you actually need to fire them, it'll take you half an hour to get them ready to go.
There was a third reason... beyond the larger missiles it needed to accommodate and the national prestige garnered by being the largest vessel of its kind, it needed to be able to accommodate simply massive amounts of dry stores (food, everyday goods used the crew etc.) as it was designed to survive a nuclear exchange (thereafter likely being unable to replenish such things, the only limiting factors on a nuclear boat's endurance, for quite some time).
A Navy expression: There are 2 kinds of boats/ships - submarines & targets.
I still have that T-shirt.
"In God we trust. All others we track."
@ASCALON hue hue hue, good one. You should probably add that to your stand up comedy routine!
@ASCALON you mean Israel attacking the USS Liberty right?
@ASCALON it is up to you to provide that evidence. The entire world except for China, Russia, NK, and Venezuela and a few if their soi's disagree with you. Go due. I didn't misspell that
You make me proud to be an Englishman. Intelligent, eloquent and very, very witty. A fan of Futurama with the heart of a poet!
I can just imagine the look on the Chief's face when the Captain turned to him and issued the command.
" Chief secure for dive ! "
"Sir?"
"Take her down now Chief!"
The pucker factor was thru the roof!
The Chief would have immediately relayed the order, and then puckered.
The order would have been; " Chief, rig for dive ! " and the order would have been given to the Officer of the Deck who in turn would have given it to the Chief who would have passed the word to the crew.
Not so illogical really. The submarine is highly compartmentalised, you have a fire in one of those compartments from rocket fuel that burns at a high temperature and would be impossible to put out. You have a hole to the sea. Submerge to periscope depth to flood the compartment was the only viable option. I was thinking this before it was mentioned. Russian subs have a much higher level of buoyancy than Western subs, they ride a lot higher in the water and take more water ballast to submerge them. Flooding the missile compartment on a Ohio would not be viable and I believe it would sink it. Thankfully US SSBNs have used stolid fuel since the Polaris missiles on the George Washington class of the '50/60s.
@@briananthony4044 :I agree with the Captains choice. It was logical. I have had the opportunity to do work on both a Russian "Foxtrot" and a Russian "Juliette" class submarines on display in the US. These boats have no frills and I have even heard first hand from a WW II US SubVet that his thoughts on the Foxtrot were not favorable. He thought the "S" class submarine he was on in WW II (built in the 1920's) was a better built sub than the Russian. His opinion. Myself having been on both a US Diesel sub and a Nuclear sub felt they (Russian) were crudely built. Like I said, No Frills.
"What boooksh?"
"What"
"What boooksh did you write?"
"ahh I wrote a biography on Admiral Halsey about naval combat tactics...."
"I know thish booook....your conclusions were all wrong Ryan, Halsey acted shtupidly ".
Hahaha. I’m crying 😂!!!
All of this said while they were waiting to see if they were going to DIE or not! So awesome.
Let them shing
"Do you shee the beasht? Have you got him in your shitesh?"
Why was Sean Connery banned from the Queen's Birthday celebrations? Because he said "God Shave the Queen". I'll show myself out...
Hello Simon, I have discovered an error in this documentary. The SSN-20 nuclear missiles, did NOT had a weight of 75 tons, but 90 tons.
But despite this little error, I have loved watching it! So, keep up the good work Simon!
Sean Connery as a captain of the Death Star in the movie called "Imperial October" :D
Typhoon Class Submarine was built to operate in the arctic circle for extended periods of time. It's reinforced hull is strong enough to be an ice breaker, and large enough to accommodate crew's comfort. It's main goal was to break the ice, and unleash payload. North Pole is the shortest flight path for the ballistic missile.
US submarines and warships cannot operate in the Arctic for periods required, so they built early warning systems in Canada
FYI, nuclear weapons don't go nuclear by merely being burned. Yes the fire can set off the conventional explosives surrounding the fissile material, but it would do so in a lopsided manner while initiating a nuclear explosion requires all the conventional explosives to detonate simultaneously. Of course it could have still spread a lot of radioactive material and contaminated the nearby area, but that's a far cry from the bombs undergoing nuclear explosions.
That is the theory. But in practice, Russian nuclear engineering hasn't always worked according to the theory.
B F Thumbs up for the diplomatic phrasing 😂
All of these comments are good, but looking back at it, the engineering safe guards worked (with a little luck I think). Even with multiple broken arrow incidences on both sides, we didn't ever accidentally nuke any bystanding nations....pretty amazing. I think God had a hand in it. Maybe he wasn't ready to end the World, so he sure as hell wasn't going to let us fuck up his timeline.
@@mattpeacock5208 engineers not stupid. They engineers are not idiots, they work through almost everything to be sure of the safety of nuclear warheads.
"Activate the caterpillar drive"
*Queue epic music
Typhoon disappears into the void
“Cue”. A “queue” is a line of people.
I hear singing?
Let them sing...
Great video, but a couple things. I served in the US Navy Submarine service from 89-99 and can tell you that both the United States Ohio class and the Russian Typhoon (Akula class) were NOT designed to "destroy the world". Yes, they carried robust nuclear weapons but the mission was (and still is) a DETERRENT against anyone launching a first strike -- it is a lose-lose proposition. I served on both Los Angeles Class Fast Attack subs (SSN) and the pre-Ohio class SSBN's. The other thing is that fire cannot set off a nuclear warhead, it doesn't work that way. I agree with you that the Russian Captain was a hero, the real risk was reactor fuel getting into the ocean. The Typhoon was an amazing piece of engineering, though, even by today's standards.
My god Todd that must of been a hell of a experience serving on those amazing submarines. The technology is just off the charts even by today’s standards. I know this sounds like a silly question but was there much room on board? I know there isn’t a massive amount of space, but I can’t imagine they were like the German u boats and WW2 allied subs to serve in that were tiny compared to the subs today…
They were designed to destroy a large part of the world, so they could be used as a deterrent.
A fire will not set off a warhead, but it can certainly cause a loss of containment. The hazard is radioactive contamination, not a nuclear explosion.
Love this new channel.
A few suggestions for future topics:
- The Large Hadron Collider
- The Event Horizon Telescope
- Bismarck (the battleship)
Bismarck (the person) and his quest to build the megaproject that we now know as Germany
-Olkiluoto 3
Most expensive and delayed nuclear power plant ever. It's actually 3rd most expensive building, right after ITER and Abrait al Bait.
i have this classic movie on VHS , time to watch it again. it's only been played once since i purchased it new in 2007 . vhs movies were being sold at discount prices back then.
The Typhoon is an awesome SSBN. I tracked a lot of suds while I was in the Navy, but never got track the Typhoon.
It's also interesting that The Hunt for Red October is based on a Soviet Krivak Frigate and was changed to the submarine in the book.
That would tie in with most observers opinions that the Typhoons were so vulnerable that they rarely if ever their left home-waters
They sat beneath the arctic ice shelf. They were never intended to do anything else.
Are you referring to the Storozhevoy incident?
"A Russian doesn't take a dump without a plan, son."
Does that mean there is a CADCAM station outside the head?
Yet they are so bad at following those plans.
@@deusexaethera
dude, it's you who are bad at following those plans. see small text: finish up with a file
@@tsartomato: What you just said makes no sense in English.
@@deusexaethera
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(tool)
hurdur
Yes!🙏🌟 "...beneath the waves" you say. Beneath the *sea,* commonly used, really means the hard rock of the ocean floor.
The typhoon is one of my favorite “vehicles”. I’d love to see one someday. Guess I’ll just have to give Simon “that sweeeeeet watch time” more than once.
I got to see the Dmitrij donskoj a few years ago, it was cool. It went past the Coast of sweden and Denmark when it was going up for a military drill in.
I was lucky enough to get a tour of the USS Seawolf as a kid, this was just before 9/11. I heard they suspeneded tours on certain ships like nuclear subs for awhile for "national security" and im not sure theyre still doing them or not.
I was in the Army and had a few navy friends one of which is still on a sub. But the typhoon is just stunning.
Shark + Typhoon = Sharknado
Scott Manley made this happen:
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I literally thought that and scrolled down to make that comment and you beat me to it lol
Very nice lol
so does it have a caterpillar drive.
@@jeffk464 I'm not sure if my joke went over your head or your joke went over my head.
Working for a company that manufactures armaments, some of the missiles we build for sub use are up to 5 stories tall. Crazy that that’s considered compact compared to the ones used on the Typhoon. Those must’ve been huge.
"Dreadnaughts of the seas"... er, dreadnaughts were of the seas. "Dreadnaughts of the depths" would have been better...
Accidentally Typhoon is almost exactly the size of HMS Dreadnought [the one from 1905] so it is very good parallel ;)
@@grlt23 Going by submerged displacement, it's significantly bigger, more on the order of a very large late WWII aircraft carrier.
"Give me a ping Vasili. One ping only"
Americans: lets carefully plan what’s needed and what’s not
Soviets: SWIMMING POOL!!
Simon I really like this more candid, and relaxed approach on this channel. On your other channels some may feel you're just a smooth talking documentary host. But here you feel at home, like a guy I'd discuss these things with at the pub.
I wuld love to have a pint with Simon.
Simon is only at home on Brain Blaze
Simon, there were 20 SS-N-20 on board, not 10 :D
i was wondering why he said 200 warheads. he probably just mispoke
Each missile could contain upto 10 independently targeted warheads within, so that's where he is getting his figures from.
Ryan
No. At one point he did say ten missiles. It carried twenty. Ten warheads per missile: 200 warheads.
Essentially, enough to obliterate the United States. So, if you lost track of one of these, doing anything naughty could go very badly...
(The real contest was in tracking each other’s boats. The Soviets also had an advantage in maximum dive depth - they could just sit on the bed of the Arctic - and deployment depth for the missiles. I believe the US later figured out how to deploy missiles from even greater depth, but as facts are difficult to come across there are likely to be few to zero people who know for sure.)
DOn't woryy, this is typical authenticity and attention to fact in all SImon's videos ;)
@@boggisthecat One thing we Norwegian experienced with Russian submarine, was how noisy they was. firstly due to there reactors, wasn't as silent as the Americans, but secondly and most importantly, the propellers on Russian submarine wasn't perfect, they didn't have assess to high precision technology to produce accurate propellers, until that day in the 80's when they managed to lure some politician and got hold of computers and tools from Siemens (If I am not remembering wrong). we used to jokingly say that we could here them leave port in North Russia!
Norwegian Navy would occasionally "test" fire there ASW system on random.... or totally randomly a Navy frigate would suddenly change curse for no reason. there is going a rumor about a Norwegian submarine that managed to snuck up on a Soviet submarine and then just started to play music... loud!
But secondly, Norway had together with CIA, sonar cable and listening cable on the seafloor, from Norway to Island, in several places, and they are still active today... Russia is not so happy about that....
The metaphor he used 10:50 to describe the power of the sub was classic and somewhat accurate. "Stop attacking us or we will blow up the world". Funny but scary and there are multiple subs in the Russian and US Navy with that capability. If they all pressed the button at the same time they could essentially turn earth into an asteroid field.
“ you see that ring on his finger”? “The academy... class of ‘72... a marine”.
“Went down in a helicopter crash in the Mediterranean. Spent his third year in traction learning to walk again. So you might want to cut the kid some slack”
The real inspiration for Red October was an incident in the Baltic in 1975. It was on a frigate, not a submarine, the political officer had the brilliant idea of a new revolution to revitalize the system and wipe out corruption and managed to convince much of the crew to go along with it and locked up the ones who were against it. They were hunted by the rest of the Soviet forces when it was discovered. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_frigate_Storozhevoy
I was in the navy in 1975 and heard this live, we were monitering Russian ship and sub movements in the Englsih Channel
The English Channel is quite far from the Baltic. Were the Soviets calling in ships from that far away to help with the hunt?
@@zapfanzapfan In case in communication and radiowarfare it is possible, and Soviets during incident forget use ecryption.
Half of the Baltic Fleet chased that one frigate.
i thought the inspiration was K19?
As I saw the reference to the "Hunt of the Red October", it is good to point out that the officers and crews of the Typhoon class were among the best and most loyal in the entire Soviet fleet. The crews were well trained and knew that the purpose and role of these subs is't to come close to the US mainland as it was portrayed in the movie. If a captain would order a risky undertaking as in the movie, he would be immediately removed from command for incompetence and endangering the crew (and shot at the slightest suspicion for possible defection). Still a good movie though. Additionally, the Typhoon operated in relatively close proximity to patrol routes of friendly hunter-killer subs for additional protection from potential hostile encounters. For a Typhoon to reach the US mainland just to defect is impossible.
This man is starting to slowly take over UA-cam I love it! Simon my man do an episode about the Burj Khalifa. My parents moved to Dubai recently and I had the opportunity to go and check it out. As an engineer I would love to know all the technical details behind this mega structure in a “Simon Whistler presents” kinda way
Pretty sure that Dreadnoughts were the Dreadnoughts of the sea.
You got a point
I guess many of us have seen that film. My mom's favorite movie. Pretty awesome. And Capt. Grishkov did great. He deserved a medal.
How many YT channels does this bald man owns?
1
At least 4 (today I found out, biographies, geographics, and megaprojects)
Gabe Darrett he recently created side projects
@@nateraymond1923 Thanks. I subscribed to that too. So, we know he has at least five channels
Yes
574 feet long would make this a submarine half the length of a Nimitz Class Supercarrier. That is absolutely insane.
A SUBMARINE
Didn't even get to the half way point of this video before I went & downloaded the movie. Welllllll why not watch the thing for the 20th time I say.
For anyone younger whose never watched it, it really is a classic & well worth a watch.
"We shail into hishtory!"
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New crewmember: Hey look an indoor pool!
Old hand: Abandon ship!
So the screen door was a bad idea
Simon, your pleasant personality and clear way of speaking is as attractive as the very important subjects you cover. And cover them well, and to the best of my knowledge, accurately too. Good job and very well done, very entertaining.
" Ryan, be careful what you shoot at, most things in here don't react well to bullets!!!!"
Indeed a marvel of engineering, one of the wonders of the modern world. I hope they make one or more into a museum and use another for research. That size and the silos have to be useful for something like sensors for mapping or maybe putting out weather/current monitoring buoys. Maybe I'm weird but I just want it to be used for SOMETHING. It deserves to be something other than nothing.
10:14 "There're TEN of these 75-ton missiles on board...". Uh, TWENTY.
The Hunt for Red October : my favourite movie ever.
Did you read the book?
@jeffpowell6224 I did. I have watched the movie first though.
@@pascalolivier4458 Did you notice many differences between the two?
To Mr. Simon Whistler: I would dearly love to see a biographics video on the captain of the Soviet naval ship called the Century. Why is that important you ask... because that was the original and true inspiration to Tom Clancy for writing the hunt for red October. Let’s just say it didn’t end well for the ships political officer. From what I understand, he retired from the Navy and was given a 9 mm severance package. 😞
LOVED this video, always been amazed by the Typhoon class submarines, ever since reading Tom's book & then seeing the Sean Connery film, I still watch it from time to time & am still amazed by it. Please keep these incredible videos coming, they are fantastic. Thank you.
"Dreadnoughts of the sea"? Is there a different kind?
Kinda funny since the UK is currently building Dreadnought class submarines.
You owe that russian sub captain a video on one of your biography channels. We all owe him something...
Yes. It's criminal that they didn't somehow award him at the very least privately.
Thanks for all the explanations. Very appreciated...
Admiral Josh Painter: "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Which carrier was he on when he said it? And do you think that pilot died when he crashed or was just a fry wound?
@@Fleshox19-uz3qt USS Enterprise, the crash footage was real footage of a crash of an F9F - Panther on a test flight in 1951, and idk about in the movie, but the real pilot walked away with minor burns and returned to duty.
“Next time Jack, write a goddamn memo”
6:50 Let's be clear here. Each nation fielded enough nuclear weapons to destroy the other twenty times not as a flight of ego but as a strategic necessity, based on the assumption that the other nation was capable of wiping out 95% of their nuclear weapons in a first strike. The 5% remaining had to be enough to destroy the attacking country in a retaliatory strike - mutually assured destruction, which supposedly guaranteed that no one would ever deliberately be the first to push the button.
Good explanation. Also, having more weapons than the enemy is effective deterrence. Deterrence seems to be the best weapon of war; stopping it from occurring entirely
@@Ifraneljadida Actually, diplomacy is the best way of avoiding a war. Having a capability to seriously mess up the other side just shows how dedicated you are to that diplomacy.
Merely building a huge amount of weapons makes you a threat, a threat best dealt with by pre-emptive strike starting a war.
"War is the continuation of politics by other means." Von Clausewitz.
And hence China is building more nuclear warheads.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Diplomacy only works if you're on the same military level. Otherwise you'll be diplomatically beaten down. In order to negotiate you should have the strength and power to be listened to.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 north Korea have nuclear weapons. Now guess why US don't mess with them anymore other than economically? And why north Koreans don't give a damn about it.
We had a cold war instead of a WW3 because Joseph Stalin managed to make some nuclear bomb too very quickly and also had the biggest and the best army on the planet at that time. Otherwise i wouldn't be commenting here as my grandparents would be turned in to radioactive ashes. Thank you uncle Joe.
I like how some of the narration by Simon is a bit less scripted, he’s a funny guy!
BTW the book "The Hunt for Red October" was much better. Trying to make the movie truer to the book would have been impossible politically or economically. If the movie The Hunt for red October is a favorite of yours then try the book Red Storm Rising. It is a tough book to follow in some ways. There are many well-defined characters and subplots throughout the book.
Tom Clancy almost got in trouble with the US for disclosing national secrets in The Hunt for Red October. He showed them all the information was in the public domain. The Navy and the CIA and the FBI had collective heart failure. They then hired him to show how to do research.
John Rodrigues every single book is better than it's film adaptation. Your book might be 800 pages. Hollywood script for it might be 40 pages.
@@jeffborders5526 Hollywood can't get Dr Seus right. As for Tom Clancy books. The closest they go0t was Red October. Clear and Present Danger, meh. The Sum of All Fears was pretty much trashed for the movie.
@@jeffborders5526 Generally a good metric, but among Clancy books, THfRO is a novella.
John Rodriquez, THfRO was originally published by the Naval Institute Press, an imprint of the US Naval Institute. While it is technically private, it is also HQed on the Annapolis campus. Your second paragraph is largely a bunch of Clancy mythology.
@@jeffborders5526 except for the Dead Zone. The movie was way better.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer ..The Hunt for Red October is one of my favorite movies...for the acting...NO! - For the cinematography...NO! - for the STORY!...so well put together...
"..... a man could walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without gettin' his feet wet.....". Classic!
Should do a Megaprojects on Simon Whistler channels to let us in on the secret of time travel you must use to keep all your channels running.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it"
I was involved with the US Navy IUSS Program and as such responsible for tracking adversaries submarines. While this was a massive sea going vessel it sounded like a train wreck when underway. Each time it pulled from the pier we knew when and where it was almost at all times. Speaking of IUSS Systems, this would make for a great megaproject episode. Project Ceaser was its code name and before it was over thousands of miles of cables and hydrophones were laid about on the sea floor merely for the purposes of tracking Soviet subs during the cold war. Our systems were magnificent and then the Johnny Walker turncoat spilled the beans on our abilities and tactics.
Although in general i dont support it, He deserved the death penalty.
I don't think we will ever truly know the extent of harm he caused to our nation's security.
+1
Excellent as always. Thank you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop attacking me or I will blow up the world 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 had me Rollin
“Con, Sonar! CRAZY IVAN!!!”
Including one WAY OUT AT PEARL!
Honestly sir I believe you could make a toaster oven seem interesting. You’re very good at what you do. Thank you for all the great videos
How about the Manhattan Project as a megaproject? Also would love to see a video on the Saturn V rocket!