the black indians of new orleans. THE FIRST DEFINITIVE DOCUMENTARY ON THE MARDI GRAS INDIANS OF NEW ORLEANS, (1976) by DR. MAURICE M. MARTINEZ. To obtain a copy go to DOORKNOBFILMS.COM.
I dont think the indians was totally killed off in North America just made to believe they are African Americans.Think about it why there are so many Hispanics .I live in Michigan WHERE ARE THE iNDIANS.They are still here just black Americans now.
Weren't there already black Indians before 1492? If these were really escaped African slaves why weren't they turned in for the bounty? Instead they were given their 160 acres just like the rest of the tribe. You never hear Native Americans saying anything about letting Black people come live with them nor marring and having children with them. Of course native Americans that are mostly white aren't going to like being called red.
My name is Tanesha Windom, I'm a dark complexion Indian I'm 41 years old, I've noticed people from the southern states have priority, I don't know what's going on
My Great-grandfather father was a full blooded Native American. with dual citizenship on the dawes roll. he married my great grandmother a French creole woman. My dad's grandfather was a full blood, whom is also on the dawes roll. I am enrolled in the Cherokee Nation. You never know. your great grandparents can full blooded, and most of the African DNA shows up. Africans and NATIVE Americans have same DNA. Africans and Natives have Similar ways of life. Africans had contact with Native Americans waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy before Europeans even came into the mix. they won't teach you that in schools.
Randall Jackson How do I join the tribe of my Great Grandparents which were full Natives? I assume its different for each tribe. How did you go about it?
I have to compile their documents, look them up on various rolls and show where they were born and owned land? My Great grandfather is one who's land was taken in mississippi.
African, Irish, Choctaw and Chickasaw is how my mom's family originated in the late 1700's. That native influence is there....absolutely! To the moors who say we were never in the slave trade....that we were always here? Sure....I would love to believe that but I'm just not that damn stupid. Life and the Universe offers many mysteries. That doesn't mean would should entertain each possibility without real proof.
I bet you the average white person are quick to try and discredit this type of information like african people only came to America from slave boats,but Thats brainwashing for ya. The African man has been traveled all over this globe we call earth way before the white also google the OLMECS and the MOORS.
TruthFan they are still africans they all had to come from the motherland at one point in history or another. They just migrated to other parts of the world a long LONG time ago. Most of indigenous africans or indigenous americans or whatever you wanna call them still carry around and hold alot of African traditions,similarly,and traits around with them.
The Olmec, as they are wrongly called, were not AFrican. What is wrong with people. They were indigenous black Americans, who are found in written records as late as 1800s.
this is straight neworleans the only way to understand is to live here ya know I mean born and bread here until you live here you will never understand...let the documentry talk to ya
I just watch the video and I just found out recently that my family was one if the original families who created Mardi gras Indians I see a lot of family in this video some I never seen in real life. Tuti Montana stated with lot of my family thanks I needed to see that.
Yes, people hate to acknowledge anything about black history because they want the world to believe their white lies about black slavery, which they still have YET to prove.
Shimmy I more thing to tell u I am a Choctaw Indian and by my black mother who is Choctaw and black and father who's the same mother and father on both side
@W0nd3rw0m4n , To tell you the truth when you see the rapper Snope Dog you are looking at a blackindian, his DNA was taken and he had more Indian in him then African, European. Now thats food for thought.
My gran and her parents ares from LA their from Mississippi but she's black Indian her mother is,her father is full blooded and it's the same on the other side of my family but more irish. It's cool being black irish and Cherokee. But since my gran was raised black-even tho she looks Indian and her kids as well...i don't know the culture. I wish I did. It's beautiful.
Cool video. Brings back lots of memories. Everything in this video is accurate. This is not a case of someone just wanting to be something else. The Black Code was never strictly enforced. Relations between people here in Louisiana was more affected by the events of the time more than any modern conception of 'race relations.' We are who we are and are here because of all our ancestors endured to ensure our survival. Race is an artificial construct. Throughout all our history all of our ancestors have been oppressed/oppressors. It makes no sense to denigrate this or that group for injustices of the past. History happened and all that is necessary is that we do not repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. We should appreciate the traditions that have survived and realize that these traditions are part of who we are. I may look like an Aryan poster child, but after all these hundreds of thousands of years there is still sub-Saharan African in my DNA as well as Native American. Hatred of any group is hatred of part of yourself and is destructive. We all came from Africa. The fact that we are here today is nothing short of a miracle. We are all family and it is past time that we start acting like it. I am not a politically correct person, I despise political correctness in all it's forms as it is intellectually dishonest and is nothing more than another tool for oppressing others. This video portrays something wonderful. Preservation of tradition should be encouraged and not disparaged.
this is so interesting, is there any more you can upload or are there any links to more info on this? It seems to be an important cultural link in the history of America, such an obvious one too but its usually brushed over very quickly or not mentioned at all.
@ fourjack4444 ,when columbus 1st arrived in 1492 he asked the indians "where did you get the gold chains (with gold medallions on them)" they said "from the black men who come from across the water (atlantic ocean) with the feathers in thier hair", columbus also describes the people of the new world as being "similar in skin color to the people of west africa & islands off the coast of west africa", columbus also stopped on the west coast of africa to ask the black men how 2 get to new world
The raw footage here is priceless. We refer to them as Mardi Gras Indians. Some of what is asserted as fact by the narrator is really just a best guess. The origins of Mardi Gras Indians are really lost to history. There are some clues as to how, why and when, but few hard facts. The tradition has changed a lot in the last 30 years that I have been observing it, but for the most part all for the better. Women are now welcome. Violence is now rare when it was common in the past.
Page 3. Now don’t go start a war with people that are still on the land when you find your roots because if it was not for these people you really would be lost and they have lots of information you may find handy to help you more and remember these people are your people as well. I’m Native Cherokee/Comanche Indian mix with Afro American, I grow up as Native Indian and I know nothing about being Black just what I see on TV but still I can’t connect to the live style.
...consistent with Hubbe et al two wave human expansion across America, while supporting an introduction of some Americans directly from Africa. I have pictures of some of the oldest artifacts found in the Americas and they are clearly African people.
We do the same thing in St.Thomas USVI and we African descent, so what's unique about this. We use the custom and everything, but we don't claim that we are indians it's just a carnival troupe for us. I think black ppl in america is in a rush to claim other ppls heritage without hard evidence. Im not saying the black native thing can't be true my point is show me real proof. Not some negro in the 8th ward making customs. Like I said we do the exact same thing in the caribbean we african decent.
I love looking into history the good the bad and the ugly , we need to see all to learn from it . I too am part of the melting pot and proud of it . I am very disappointed in the negative input from those wanting attention and do not know a civil way to get it .
Blk, Latino, Native American, all the same ppl, so many ppl have had a rewritten european history, they have all been told and we taught that they r different ppl. Natives say theyre sovereign, but they still must pay taxes for the casino, and as long as u pay taxes, ur not sovereign. So divide and conquer. Hence the spanish Inquisition, only effected, north, cen, south America and North Africa, this was deliberate, do u know what was going on before 1492, and who controlled most of the land...
I am not confused. My mother is part Muscogee creek and very little black, my father is more black. I am proud of all that I am. I grew-up more Native American than black. my friends were Native some were black. It seems that if you are African American you cannot claim anything that your are except African. My mother went to Africa in the 1950's and lived their for seven years and the Africans did not except her as black although she thought whe would be excepted. Sad.
@mike merrival... because my great,great,great etc. grandfather was white! you know, the slave owner that would creep at night and sleep with his slaves! I don't claim that part,and it's my choice! even though I have white family members. I only claim as far back as I can remember, which is my native American great grandfather,and grandfather. does that answer your question, if not, OH WELL!
Page 2. Some of the DARK skins are the SEEDS of Ancient Hebrew Israelites, Ancient Egyptian and there are true Africans. The Africans that are coming to the US by choice are claiming them self as Black Americans and they are the true African Americans because they are AFRICANS. This is where I strongly feel where you all get confuse with your own race and I like to hear people really get into who you really are for as your true identity.
No big deal. We are all energetic beings but i disagree with the primate falicy. Check out michael cremo's forbidden archeology. Youll be arguing with darwinists and eugenists in no time.
Africans claiming to be native to this continent... and still looking Africans... Does not make sense to me. This mix has a name, nothing to do with genuine native americans. I could believe there is heritage, but what you look is what you are.
We all come from the same group of primates, who developed into homo sapiens and mixed with other early homo types like the Neanderthals. So what's the big deal with heritage ? Interesting video though.
The question is: When they integrated with the Indian tribes, did they keep their African traditions and blend it in with Native American culture. If this is true, that's great. However if they completely inherited Native American culture and dropped their own African culture this is just another instance of Blacks wanting to be something other than themselves, a true sign of self hate.
There are absolutely NO similarities between the cultures of the thousands of tribes in African and the indigenous black Americans. You need to study those this, because you are sadly mistaken. In fact, Black Americans do not even look like Africans, nor do they preserve any of their beliefs. Just because people from Africa and America share same skin complexion, doesn't mean they are the SAME people. Australians, Asians and people of Indian & Pacific Islands are black, I guess you like other misinformed people belief they came from Africa also, but NEVER refer to them in your comments. Perhaps you need to travel outside your TV room.
First off, no such thing as "black Indian." Just like there is no such thing as "white Indian." You never hear, or at least not as much, people saying "white Indian." If the Egyptians were here, then why didn't they record their journey? Surely that would have been the talk of the town. No proof they were here. Oldest pyramid not even in Mexico. We have plenty of videos and info on my channel that will answer your questions. We have images of natives showing near sameness to the Olmec.
@W0nd3rw0m4n unless your grand parents were slaves from what is called "Africa" then you are a so called "black indianS." But please keep in my that these words like Black, Indian, and Native America are all terms used by European colonist to divide us as a people. We all come from what was once known as LeMuria and we are all Muurs. We have been told these lies to keep us from Coming together as 1 HUMAN RACE...RESEARCH INTO DA HISTORY IF UR CONFUSED ABOUT THE TRUTH!!!
It annoys me when Blacks try to go out of their way to prove they are decendants of American Indians. First of all, it's kinf of understood, that if your of African decent and American, that your family most likely has been in the USA for hundreds of years, so of course there are going to be mixing of the races. Why would I want to "promote" that I'm the decendant, of a race of people who have basicly been victims of genocide, in America?
@shimmyprincesso8 shit the hell up dumb ass,you haters,their are real not fake black Indians out there and always will whether you like it or not,who are you tell us what we are and who likes us or not,I'm a real black Indian with proof,I'm not trying to live with nobody and I'm not begging anybody to except me I font give a dam,I know who I am,like other real Indians out there who gives a fuck what you haters and jealous people think,being black and Indian is a very unique and powerful blend from god and the spirit.i know what I am they know what they are,thats all that matters,there will always be jealous,evil,haters,bad people out there and always will just like there will rarely always be good hearted black Indians like me,if blacks have real Indian blood mixed why not claim I dont see your ugly ass running your mouth about whites claiming Indian blood when they dont even look nothing like one,please go do research on what real Indians look like,they are red,tan,copper,and brown they are not pale or pink white looking.try again
You are so dumb they had black Indians already in the tribes, while they had some that joined, I am creole black woman myself, I know my heritage, I will not let nobody dictate who people are like Walter Ashby Plecker did making that one drop rule mess and he was a white racists supremacists look him up,because he could not distinguish between the natives and the Africans he made the one drop rule up, so until you know where our roots are then you can speak, but till then I advised you to hush!
the confused blacks are not being confused and lied to any longer. They are starting the find out the truth that was hidden by whites. Whites like yourself are in fear that the age of enlightenment is upon us. The whites are scurrying about to try to keep the lid on, but all you do to achieve this will not work. Its time to shed all the truth thats been in darkness. Theirs nothing you and your brethen can do. :D
wow ,real copper colored nativeamericans like my self.this footage is so dope i can overlook the disturbing missinfo thAT is being spoken over it. haha hehe ...african what? these people been around much longer than the african slave stories.
The European is always lying about our story calling it history. It is well documented that the so called "black" Indian is the copper colored Indigenous Native American who was here over 50,000 years ago even before the Mongols invaded from North Asia about 35,000 thousand years ago.
excellent vid, thanx for sharing. I LOVE THE BLACK MARDI GRAS INDIANS!!!! some of the deepest, most profound spiritual experiences I have had in my life have been on Mardi Gras day, in the Treme, under the Claiborne bridge, etc. flowing like a river, all us people together, like the rythme of the heartbeat of the Earth, One People, crying up to the sky with Joy, NOTHING CAN KEEP OUR SPIRITS DOWN! Fully, the CELEBRATION OF BEING ALIVE! Thank you to everyone out there helping to keep this incredibly rich & unique tradition alive. I been away for 13 years & now we're moving back to New Orleans...feels like coming home :) LOVE
Page 1. I wonder do Afro Americans know theirs a difference in the Black race. Let me help you all to understand what Im saying here. SATAN SEED "white man" put it all in the Black Americans mind that they all are from Africa and you are Africans. NOT all you DARK skins are AFRICANS; now you may had came from the same continent but still your identity is different and the Europeans manage to make your ancestors to believe you all AFRICANS to BRAINWASH you for hundreds of years until now.
I'm from New Orleans. I'm chief of a Mardi Gras Indian gang. We do not claim to be BLACK INDIANS. Let me explain. When the French where owners of Louisiana they had 10 rules. 1 was that Blacks was exempt from work on Sunday & holidays. The French was a lot more compassionate. Some slaves would hire themselves out for wages. Others would go to a plot of land right outside the city. At that time the French quarters. The plot of land is known today as Congo Square. They would play there music as they did in Africa. The Native Americans that stayed on the Louisiana land close to the city. Would attend these musical sessions. Some (creoles) free people of colour would even dress like the Indians. Its custom for some west Africans who where guest to dress like their host at that time (indians). The Indians learned to communicate with the slaves. This communication between the two eventually would lead to some really nasty slave revolts. Some lead by Native Americans. Although the revolts didn't last long. Some blacks used the opportunity to escape to the nearby swamp. Now with Haitian immigrant pouring into the city. Some escaped slaves and (creoles)free people of colour. Other slaves who made enough to buy their freedom. Started buying up houses in a area in the city called Tremé. The Tremé neighborhood is America FIRST & OLDEST BLACK OWNED neighborhood ever. The way we sew our suit is an African style of sewing and a African culture. Something we try very hard to keep alive. The first photos of the mardi gras indians was the year1880 the gang name was and still is called the Creole Wild West. What we do as Mardi Gras Indians is keep a Louisiania and African culture alive & give thanks to the Louisiana Native Americans that help out our ancestors at that time. By masking indian (dress like the host).
Creole Hunters Thank you so much for explaining that. I am from New Orleans and currently in China teaching. They want me to do a lecture on something special from my country. I thought about how special my hometown is and wanted to do a lecture on the Indians I grew up watching. Your information and others like it is helping me to explain this to people around the world.
That is so white washed history. The FRENCH, means FREEMEN, were black not white, and the histories show that black Americans in that region spoke Indian languages, French and Spanish. From you to be from New Orleans, you surely know nothing about it's history. Congo Square was originally called Place d'Armes, meaning PARADE, and this is where the BLACK INDIANS CELEBRATED, but were later prohibited from practicing their indigenous culture.
Merci beaucoup pour cet éclaircissement historique, Chef ! et longue vie au quartier Trémé... Thanks a lot for this historical enlightment, Chief ! and long live the Trémé area...
Creole Hunters I'm also from New Orleans. I understand clearly what you're saying because that is what we were taught, but we now know that the Natives were indeed black Africans. The original natives were black.
...a Mexican group identified as being of African origin and six Mayan groups show the B Allele of the ABO system that is considered to be of African origin (9-10). We conclude that the genetic evidence points to distinct origins for the Paleoamerican populations. This molecular evidence supports a possible early colonization of the Americas, not only by Melanesians as suggested by Hubbe et al, but also Africans. The molecular evidence is...
Man this footage is fucking outstanding,(sorry for the language) I have been looking for something like this on you tube since in arrived in san antonio in 05. I am born and raised in the 9thw/d bunny friend park area and this is the mardi gras i grew up seeing in the 6th w/d under the claibourne bridge. Thx man I will be searing for Doornob films
I;m Afro Native American with Hindi Indian but whats funny is a woman of Dutch and Native American Cherokee recognized my Native American Cherokee ancestry . She told me Indians recognize Indians regardless of their skin tone and I'm brown skinned. She welcomed me as a Cherokee Sister. My daughter is the same way she has blended features of both Native American and Hindi Indian and West African . Her hair has the high glossy shiny texture of our native indian and hindi indian ancestry.
@DementedBCecil pt.2 By the way my comment was not meant at all to be negative or to "hate" on your post in anyway. I have family members in this documentary. The truth simply is that there is much more to the story. I have posted a Video as a response to this one if you would be kind enough to allow your viewers to connect with the FULL truth in this matter. Peace.
I'm from Michigan and my grandfather is Potwatomi...it is obvious he is native american...but he married a black woman. Also a lot of native americans were purposely mixing with blacks at one point too because they didn't want their children to be recognized at Natives because they were being killed and moved off their land. Its really sad. Blacks and natives got along better than people think cause they went through a lot of the same hardships.
Black people need to stop trying to steal the Indian identity. Or just because our ancestors may have joined their tribes does not mean they mixed with each other.
Actually there is proof in New Orleans that this race mixing of slaves and Natives took place, and some of them also mixed with whites, if you go there look at the faces of the Black people and you will see the mixture. Black people in America are proud of being Black, but we also acknowledge that race mixing took place.
Its very hard for me to understand my heritage. I'm 16 years old and I'm Creole but most of me is African American and Native American. But dont know anything about culture or tradition. It's upseting because my ancestors ran away from the hate in Louisiana and came here to California. It just makes me really upset that all our tradtons have disappeared and I'll never understand who or what I'm really am. =''''(
The local Indian tribes would show favor to the large slave population in New Orleans. An African Slave could very easily find shelter and protection in an Indian tribe, as a result New Orleans African American genealogy is full of people mix with Indian blood lines. The American Slaves paid homage to the Indians by masking in the same attire that was use to disguised their identify. To learn more about the culture of New Orleans visit our Facebook group called "9th Ward Trivia"
Black, African, I claim it all for myself. Somebody talkin bout mulatto need a category. You gon try and claim that when you gotta try and not get " SHOT" UP in. White neighborhood!!!? Stupid idiot. Be very honored to be Black, Indian, be honored to be OF COLOR period. Ignoramus whoever said that. ,
@W0nd3rw0m4n Umm... not in this context. They're just black people in New Orleans who dress up as Native Americans (often called Mardi Gras Indians.) They don't need to be part Native American at all.
Black and native American here. I'm from New Orleans and as a kid growing up I use to be called white girl by other kids and I hated it!! I would actually stand in the sun to try to get my skin darker. Kids were horrible and judgemental. High school I would be told that light skinned girls with long hair thought they were better than dark skinned girls so I grew up fighting alot.
If an Irish man sleeps with an "italian american" woman and their child claims both is he confused? Is part of a person is black and the other part Indian...they should just claim to be black? Ignore their native american blood?...That ancestory?...Isn't it all true? ... Like black people with white ancestors? How do you ignore Our president being both for example. This whole race thing...I tell ya
Oh Really? Check this out...James l. Gutherie (2000) in a study of the HLAs in indigenous American populations, found that the Vantigen of the Rhesus system, considered to be an indication of African ancestry, among Indians in Belize and Mexico centers of Mayan civilization(9). Dr. Gutherie also noted that A*28 common among Africans has high frequencies among Eastern Maya. It is interesting to note that the Otomi,...
I dont think they want to be native but it's there way of showing respect to them as well as their people I would like for them to maybe invite some Native to see them and get some ideal from them too
you hate to see this you know blacks put more energy into they dance than red people..you know that inside you..just face it dude the black race is original and first..God lets you know that because in every race blacks come first and the other race are left behind to bite the dust. Get what im saying lol..
My grandmother (rip ) is from New Orleans ! She was a tall black Indian ! Beautiful features ! Tall ! Golden skin ! And beautiful hair !
I dont think the indians was totally killed off in North America just made to believe they are African Americans.Think about it why there are so many Hispanics .I live in Michigan WHERE ARE THE iNDIANS.They are still here just black Americans now.
This is fantastic! What an amazing culture of art and music. We must treasure this as a great part of American history.
Weren't there already black Indians before 1492? If these were really escaped African slaves why weren't they turned in for the bounty? Instead they were given their 160 acres just like the rest of the tribe. You never hear Native Americans saying anything about letting Black people come live with them nor marring and having children with them. Of course native Americans that are mostly white aren't going to like being called red.
My name is Tanesha Windom, I'm a dark complexion Indian I'm 41 years old, I've noticed people from the southern states have priority, I don't know what's going on
We out here
My Great-grandfather father was a full blooded Native American. with dual citizenship on the dawes roll. he married my great grandmother a French creole woman. My dad's grandfather was a full blood, whom is also on the dawes roll. I am enrolled in the Cherokee Nation. You never know. your great grandparents can full blooded, and most of the African DNA shows up. Africans and NATIVE Americans have same DNA. Africans and Natives have Similar ways of life. Africans had contact with Native Americans waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy before Europeans even came into the mix. they won't teach you that in schools.
Randall Jackson How do I join the tribe of my Great Grandparents which were full Natives? I assume its different for each tribe. How did you go about it?
Location, origin, surnames, and records....
I have to compile their documents, look them up on various rolls and show where they were born and owned land? My Great grandfather is one who's land was taken in mississippi.
Thank You Very Much for sharing this.
This is truly a celebration of life. Roots.
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African, Irish, Choctaw and Chickasaw is how my mom's family originated in the late 1700's. That native influence is there....absolutely! To the moors who say we were never in the slave trade....that we were always here? Sure....I would love to believe that but I'm just not that damn stupid. Life and the Universe offers many mysteries. That doesn't mean would should entertain each possibility without real proof.
I bet you the average white person are quick to try and discredit this type of information like african people only came to America from slave boats,but Thats brainwashing for ya. The African man has been traveled all over this globe we call earth way before the white also google the OLMECS and the MOORS.
+motorcity4life These are not Africans, they are indigenous Americans. Black people were everywhere not just Africa.
TruthFan they are still africans they all had to come from the motherland at one point in history or another. They just migrated to other parts of the world a long LONG time ago. Most of indigenous africans or indigenous americans or whatever you wanna call them still carry around and hold alot of African traditions,similarly,and traits around with them.
The Olmec, as they are wrongly called, were not AFrican. What is wrong with people. They were indigenous black Americans, who are found in written records as late as 1800s.
would you call native Australians African?
Princess Amberella well "the great migration out of Africa" the largest group went east toward Australia first. So possibly yes
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this is straight neworleans the only way to understand is to live here ya know I mean born and bread here until you live here you will never understand...let the documentry talk to ya
I just watch the video and I just found out recently that my family was one if the original families who created Mardi gras Indians I see a lot of family in this video some I never seen in real life. Tuti Montana stated with lot of my family thanks I needed to see that.
Yes, people hate to acknowledge anything about black history because they want the world to believe their white lies about black slavery, which they still have YET to prove.
this explains why my gray grand father is a full blooded Indian on my mother and father side cool!
Shimmy I more thing to tell u I am a Choctaw Indian and by my black mother who is Choctaw and black and father who's the same mother and father on both side
New Orleans has some of the most attractive people I've ever come across, I'd like to move there one day.
The sad thing is many Indians returned many run away slave in return for guns, liquor...
@W0nd3rw0m4n , To tell you the truth when you see the rapper Snope Dog you are looking at a blackindian, his DNA was taken and he had more Indian in him then African, European. Now thats food for thought.
Wonderful history!
The Native Americans and the Africans are the people who gave America Culture, without their beauty, we would not make it.
Man always messing up history black people are the first in america not those asian .
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My gran and her parents ares from LA their from Mississippi but she's black Indian her mother is,her father is full blooded and it's the same on the other side of my family but more irish. It's cool being black irish and Cherokee. But since my gran was raised black-even tho she looks Indian and her kids as well...i don't know the culture. I wish I did. It's beautiful.
i have seen this whole program on tv
Cool video. Brings back lots of memories. Everything in this video is accurate. This is not a case of someone just wanting to be something else. The Black Code was never strictly enforced. Relations between people here in Louisiana was more affected by the events of the time more than any modern conception of 'race relations.' We are who we are and are here because of all our ancestors endured to ensure our survival. Race is an artificial construct. Throughout all our history all of our ancestors have been oppressed/oppressors. It makes no sense to denigrate this or that group for injustices of the past. History happened and all that is necessary is that we do not repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. We should appreciate the traditions that have survived and realize that these traditions are part of who we are. I may look like an Aryan poster child, but after all these hundreds of thousands of years there is still sub-Saharan African in my DNA as well as Native American. Hatred of any group is hatred of part of yourself and is destructive. We all came from Africa. The fact that we are here today is nothing short of a miracle. We are all family and it is past time that we start acting like it. I am not a politically correct person, I despise political correctness in all it's forms as it is intellectually dishonest and is nothing more than another tool for oppressing others. This video portrays something wonderful. Preservation of tradition should be encouraged and not disparaged.
this is so interesting, is there any more you can upload or are there any links to more info on this? It seems to be an important cultural link in the history of America, such an obvious one too but its usually brushed over very quickly or not mentioned at all.
I am a Moor. I also come from the Sycun & Pettiford tribes...
@ fourjack4444 ,when columbus 1st arrived in 1492 he asked the indians "where did you get the gold chains (with gold medallions on them)" they said "from the black men who come from across the water (atlantic ocean) with the feathers in thier hair", columbus also describes the people of the new world as being "similar in skin color to the people of west africa & islands off the coast of west africa", columbus also stopped on the west coast of africa to ask the black men how 2 get to new world
@Mike Bendezu oh yes we can
very true
Why are the Hopi so similar to the Dogon? And what happened to the pyramid building Olmecs?
The raw footage here is priceless. We refer to them as Mardi Gras Indians. Some of what is asserted as fact by the narrator is really just a best guess. The origins of Mardi Gras Indians are really lost to history. There are some clues as to how, why and when, but few hard facts. The tradition has changed a lot in the last 30 years that I have been observing it, but for the most part all for the better. Women are now welcome. Violence is now rare when it was common in the past.
Well I have a photo of my great grandmother who really was Cherokee.
Page 3. Now don’t go start a war with people that are still on the land when you find your roots because if it was not for these people you really would be lost and they have lots of information you may find handy to help you more and remember these people are your people as well. I’m Native Cherokee/Comanche Indian mix with Afro American, I grow up as Native Indian and I know nothing about being Black just what I see on TV but still I can’t connect to the live style.
Judah!!!!
They call themselves black Indians, but yes, like in ST thomas, it's really only for Mardi Gras/Carnival
What era was this, the sixtys
When a Native American mixes with a black person they make a Zambo.
...consistent with Hubbe et al two wave human expansion across America, while supporting an introduction of some Americans directly from Africa. I have pictures of some of the oldest artifacts found in the Americas and they are clearly African people.
shouldnt Eraserhead bust onto the scene at about 6:20?
im from new orleans
We do the same thing in St.Thomas USVI and we African descent, so what's unique about this. We use the custom and everything, but we don't claim that we are indians it's just a carnival troupe for us. I think black ppl in america is in a rush to claim other ppls heritage without hard evidence. Im not saying the black native thing can't be true my point is show me real proof. Not some negro in the 8th ward making customs. Like I said we do the exact same thing in the caribbean we african decent.
I love looking into history the good the bad and the ugly , we need to see all to learn from it . I too am part of the melting pot and proud of it . I am very disappointed in the negative input from those wanting attention and do not know a civil way to get it .
Blk, Latino, Native American, all the same ppl, so many ppl have had a rewritten european history, they have all been told and we taught that they r different ppl. Natives say theyre sovereign, but they still must pay taxes for the casino, and as long as u pay taxes, ur not sovereign. So divide and conquer. Hence the spanish Inquisition, only effected, north, cen, south America and North Africa, this was deliberate, do u know what was going on before 1492, and who controlled most of the land...
I am not confused. My mother is part Muscogee creek and very little black, my father is more black. I am proud of all that I am. I grew-up more Native American than black. my friends were Native some were black. It seems that if you are African American you cannot claim anything that your are except African. My mother went to Africa in the 1950's and lived their for seven years and the Africans did not except her as black although she thought whe would be excepted. Sad.
@mike merrival... because my great,great,great etc. grandfather was white! you know, the slave owner that would creep at night and sleep with his slaves! I don't claim that part,and it's my choice! even though I have white family members. I only claim as far back as I can remember, which is my native American great grandfather,and grandfather. does that answer your question, if not, OH WELL!
thank you, geez i get tired of hearing that.
Page 2. Some of the DARK skins are the SEEDS of Ancient Hebrew Israelites, Ancient Egyptian and there are true Africans. The Africans that are coming to the US by choice are claiming them self as Black Americans and they are the true African Americans because they are AFRICANS. This is where I strongly feel where you all get confuse with your own race and I like to hear people really get into who you really are for as your true identity.
No big deal. We are all energetic beings but i disagree with the primate falicy. Check out michael cremo's forbidden archeology. Youll be arguing with darwinists and eugenists in no time.
her sister is dark skinned be she looks more native american
Africans claiming to be native to this continent... and still looking Africans... Does not make sense to me. This mix has a name, nothing to do with genuine native americans. I could believe there is heritage, but what you look is what you are.
We all come from the same group of primates, who developed into homo sapiens and mixed with other early homo types like the Neanderthals.
So what's the big deal with heritage ?
Interesting video though.
The question is: When they integrated with the Indian tribes, did they keep their African traditions and blend it in with Native American culture. If this is true, that's great. However if they completely inherited Native American culture and dropped their own African culture this is just another instance of Blacks wanting to be something other than themselves, a true sign of self hate.
There are absolutely NO similarities between the cultures of the thousands of tribes in African and the indigenous black Americans. You need to study those this, because you are sadly mistaken. In fact, Black Americans do not even look like Africans, nor do they preserve any of their beliefs. Just because people from Africa and America share same skin complexion, doesn't mean they are the SAME people. Australians, Asians and people of Indian & Pacific Islands are black, I guess you like other misinformed people belief they came from Africa also, but NEVER refer to them in your comments. Perhaps you need to travel outside your TV room.
First off, no such thing as "black Indian." Just like there is no such thing as "white Indian." You never hear, or at least not as much, people saying "white Indian."
If the Egyptians were here, then why didn't they record their journey? Surely that would have been the talk of the town. No proof they were here. Oldest pyramid not even in Mexico.
We have plenty of videos and info on my channel that will answer your questions.
We have images of natives showing near sameness to the Olmec.
@W0nd3rw0m4n unless your grand parents were slaves from what is called "Africa" then you are a so called "black indianS." But please keep in my that these words like Black, Indian, and Native America are all terms used by European colonist to divide us as a people. We all come from what was once known as LeMuria and we are all Muurs. We have been told these lies to keep us from Coming together as 1 HUMAN RACE...RESEARCH INTO DA HISTORY IF UR CONFUSED ABOUT THE TRUTH!!!
It annoys me when Blacks try to go out of their way to prove they are decendants of American Indians. First of all, it's kinf of understood, that if your of African decent and American, that your family most likely has been in the USA for hundreds of years, so of course there are going to be mixing of the races. Why would I want to "promote" that I'm the decendant, of a race of people who have basicly been victims of genocide, in America?
SALSASSIN'S A SELF HATING RACIST!!!
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@DementedBCecil i know its such bullshit! race..
what a stupid statement but what would anyone expect from you
@shimmyprincesso8 shit the hell up dumb ass,you haters,their are real not fake black Indians out there and always will whether you like it or not,who are you tell us what we are and who likes us or not,I'm a real black Indian with proof,I'm not trying to live with nobody and I'm not begging anybody to except me I font give a dam,I know who I am,like other real Indians out there who gives a fuck what you haters and jealous people think,being black and Indian is a very unique and powerful blend from god and the spirit.i know what I am they know what they are,thats all that matters,there will always be jealous,evil,haters,bad people out there and always will just like there will rarely always be good hearted black Indians like me,if blacks have real Indian blood mixed why not claim I dont see your ugly ass running your mouth about whites claiming Indian blood when they dont even look nothing like one,please go do research on what real Indians look like,they are red,tan,copper,and brown they are not pale or pink white looking.try again
Rapist's Ewwwwww Yuck
Not one REAL Indian in this Video
You are so dumb they had black Indians already in the tribes, while they had some that joined, I am creole black woman myself, I know my heritage, I will not let nobody dictate who people are like Walter Ashby Plecker did making that one drop rule mess and he was a white racists supremacists look him up,because he could not distinguish between the natives and the Africans he made the one drop rule up, so until you know where our roots are then you can speak, but till then I advised you to hush!
the confused blacks are not being confused and lied to any longer. They are starting the find out the truth that was hidden by whites. Whites like yourself are in fear that the age of enlightenment is upon us. The whites are scurrying about to try to keep the lid on, but all you do to achieve this will not work. Its time to shed all the truth thats been in darkness. Theirs nothing you and your brethen can do. :D
wow ,real copper colored nativeamericans like my self.this footage is so dope i can overlook the disturbing missinfo thAT is being spoken over it. haha hehe ...african what? these people been around much longer than the african slave stories.
The European is always lying about our story calling it history. It is well documented that the so called "black" Indian is the copper colored Indigenous Native American who was here over 50,000 years ago even before the Mongols invaded from North Asia about 35,000 thousand years ago.
every race on the planet was black
excellent vid, thanx for sharing. I LOVE THE BLACK MARDI GRAS INDIANS!!!! some of the deepest, most profound spiritual experiences I have had in my life have been on Mardi Gras day, in the Treme, under the Claiborne bridge, etc. flowing like a river, all us people together, like the rythme of the heartbeat of the Earth, One People, crying up to the sky with Joy, NOTHING CAN KEEP OUR SPIRITS DOWN! Fully, the CELEBRATION OF BEING ALIVE! Thank you to everyone out there helping to keep this incredibly rich & unique tradition alive. I been away for 13 years & now we're moving back to New Orleans...feels like coming home :) LOVE
Page 1. I wonder do Afro Americans know theirs a difference in the Black race. Let me help you all to understand what Im saying here. SATAN SEED "white man" put it all in the Black Americans mind that they all are from Africa and you are Africans. NOT all you DARK skins are AFRICANS; now you may had came from the same continent but still your identity is different and the Europeans manage to make your ancestors to believe you all AFRICANS to BRAINWASH you for hundreds of years until now.
I'm from New Orleans. I'm chief of a Mardi Gras Indian gang. We do not claim to be BLACK INDIANS. Let me explain. When the French where owners of Louisiana they had 10 rules. 1 was that Blacks was exempt from work on Sunday & holidays. The French was a lot more compassionate. Some slaves would hire themselves out for wages. Others would go to a plot of land right outside the city. At that time the French quarters. The plot of land is known today as Congo Square. They would play there music as they did in Africa. The Native Americans that stayed on the Louisiana land close to the city. Would attend these musical sessions. Some (creoles) free people of colour would even dress like the Indians. Its custom for some west Africans who where guest to dress like their host at that time (indians). The Indians learned to communicate with the slaves. This communication between the two eventually would lead to some really nasty slave revolts. Some lead by Native Americans. Although the revolts didn't last long. Some blacks used the opportunity to escape to the nearby swamp. Now with Haitian immigrant pouring into the city. Some escaped slaves and (creoles)free people of colour. Other slaves who made enough to buy their freedom. Started buying up houses in a area in the city called Tremé. The Tremé neighborhood is America FIRST & OLDEST BLACK OWNED neighborhood ever. The way we sew our suit is an African style of sewing and a African culture. Something we try very hard to keep alive. The first photos of the mardi gras indians was the year1880 the gang name was and still is called the Creole Wild West. What we do as Mardi Gras Indians is keep a Louisiania and African culture alive & give thanks to the Louisiana Native Americans that help out our ancestors at that time. By masking indian (dress like the host).
Creole Hunters Thank you so much for explaining that. I am from New Orleans and currently in China teaching. They want me to do a lecture on something special from my country. I thought about how special my hometown is and wanted to do a lecture on the Indians I grew up watching. Your information and others like it is helping me to explain this to people around the world.
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That is so white washed history. The FRENCH, means FREEMEN, were black not white, and the histories show that black Americans in that region spoke Indian languages, French and Spanish. From you to be from New Orleans, you surely know nothing about it's history. Congo Square was originally called Place d'Armes, meaning PARADE, and this is where the BLACK INDIANS CELEBRATED, but were later prohibited from practicing their indigenous culture.
Merci beaucoup pour cet éclaircissement historique, Chef ! et longue vie au quartier Trémé...
Thanks a lot for this historical enlightment, Chief ! and long live the Trémé area...
Creole Hunters I'm also from New Orleans. I understand clearly what you're saying because that is what we were taught, but we now know that the Natives were indeed black Africans. The original natives were black.
True.africans have been here much longer than slave stories. Much longer.
As a person born in NOLA and raised in Creole tradition, this is important. One of, if not the best, documentary on subject I have seen.
is it true that creole ladies only date men that are creole
What do you mean by creole? What does it mean? (curios)
My grandmother would always tell me stories on how they always prided them selves in their dance and costumes !!
...a Mexican group identified as being of African origin and six Mayan groups show the B Allele of the ABO system that is considered to be of African origin (9-10).
We conclude that the genetic evidence points to distinct origins for the Paleoamerican populations. This molecular evidence supports a possible early colonization of the Americas, not only by Melanesians as suggested by Hubbe et al, but also Africans. The molecular evidence is...
Man this footage is fucking outstanding,(sorry for the language) I have been looking for something like this on you tube since in arrived in san antonio in 05. I am born and raised in the 9thw/d bunny friend park area and this is the mardi gras i grew up seeing in the 6th w/d under the claibourne bridge. Thx man I will be searing for Doornob films
N.O. baby!!!! Best city in this country! WHO DAT!!!
I;m Afro Native American with Hindi Indian but whats funny is a woman of Dutch and Native American Cherokee recognized my Native American Cherokee ancestry . She told me Indians recognize Indians regardless of their skin tone and I'm brown skinned. She welcomed me as a Cherokee Sister. My daughter is the same way she has blended features of both Native American and Hindi Indian and West African . Her hair has the high glossy shiny texture of our native indian and hindi indian ancestry.
I love Mardi Gras.
@DementedBCecil pt.2
By the way my comment was not meant at all to be negative or to "hate" on your post in anyway. I have family members in this documentary. The truth simply is that there is much more to the story. I have posted a Video as a response to this one if you would be kind enough to allow your viewers to connect with the FULL truth in this matter. Peace.
I'm from Michigan and my grandfather is Potwatomi...it is obvious he is native american...but he married a black woman. Also a lot of native americans were purposely mixing with blacks at one point too because they didn't want their children to be recognized at Natives because they were being killed and moved off their land. Its really sad. Blacks and natives got along better than people think cause they went through a lot of the same hardships.
they were in beyonce's Formation video
yes we were
beautiful diversity in america
Thank you for this clip. It was very interesting and answered a lot of questions that I had about Black Indians in New Orleans.
Black people need to stop trying to steal the Indian identity. Or just because our ancestors may have joined their tribes does not mean they mixed with each other.
Actually there is proof in New Orleans that this race mixing of slaves and Natives took place, and some of them also mixed with whites, if you go there look at the faces of the Black people and you will see the mixture. Black people in America are proud of being Black, but we also acknowledge that race mixing took place.
WE ARE ALL ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
why white claim it all the time, usally when it helps them get in school
Its very hard for me to understand my heritage. I'm 16 years old and I'm Creole but most of me is African American and Native American. But dont know anything about culture or tradition. It's upseting because my ancestors ran away from the hate in Louisiana and came here to California. It just makes me really upset that all our tradtons have disappeared and I'll never understand who or what I'm really am. =''''(
The local Indian tribes would show favor to the large slave population in New Orleans. An African Slave could very easily find shelter and protection in an Indian tribe, as a result New Orleans African American genealogy is full of people mix with Indian blood lines. The American Slaves paid homage to the Indians by masking in the same attire that was use to disguised their identify. To learn more about the culture of New Orleans visit our Facebook group called "9th Ward Trivia"
Black, African, I claim it all for myself. Somebody talkin bout mulatto need a category. You gon try and claim that when you gotta try and not get " SHOT" UP in. White neighborhood!!!? Stupid idiot. Be very honored to be Black, Indian, be honored to be OF COLOR period. Ignoramus whoever said that. ,
@W0nd3rw0m4n
Umm... not in this context. They're just black people in New Orleans who dress up as Native Americans (often called Mardi Gras Indians.) They don't need to be part Native American at all.
Lovin this history!
Black and native American here. I'm from New Orleans and as a kid growing up I use to be called white girl by other kids and I hated it!! I would actually stand in the sun to try to get my skin darker. Kids were horrible and judgemental. High school I would be told that light skinned girls with long hair thought they were better than dark skinned girls so I grew up fighting alot.
Thank you for this video so much.
If an Irish man sleeps with an "italian american" woman and their child claims both is he confused? Is part of a person is black and the other part Indian...they should just claim to be black? Ignore their native american blood?...That ancestory?...Isn't it all true? ... Like black people with white ancestors? How do you ignore Our president being both for example. This whole race thing...I tell ya
Oh Really? Check this out...James l. Gutherie (2000) in a study of the HLAs in indigenous American populations, found that the Vantigen of the Rhesus system, considered to be an indication of African ancestry, among Indians in Belize and Mexico centers of Mayan civilization(9). Dr. Gutherie also noted that A*28 common among Africans has high frequencies among Eastern Maya. It is interesting to note that the Otomi,...
Okay this is going to be a stupid question but what is a Black Indian... An Afroamerican muxed with native american?
I dont think they want to be native but it's there way of showing respect to them as well as their people I would like for them to maybe invite some Native to see them and get some ideal from them too
you hate to see this you know blacks put more energy into they dance than red people..you know that inside you..just face it dude the black race is original and first..God lets you know that because in every race blacks come first and the other race are left behind to bite the dust. Get what im saying lol..