Well unlike most critics, I enjoyed The Black Cauldron. Hoping for a 4K Blu-Ray edition, and hoping for a live action version of its book series The Chronicles of Prydain!
I know the point of the story is character growth, but I couldn’t stand Taron or Gurgi. I thought Eilonwy was the only one with her head on her shoulders lol. Anyway I’m rewatching it on DisneyPlus right now. Love the animation. And honestly, I like a good film where the baddies are bad and the good guys are good. Edit: I didn’t realize it was based on a book series. That makes sense why the characters are a bit flat. Still a good story.
I Liked They Showed Some Concept Art Of The Horned King In The Segment. They Also Mentioned About John Hurt voicing The Villainous Horned King In The Film.
After THE BLACK CAULDRON (1985) was a box office disappointment, the Disney Studio manager fired the producer and a few employees for working on THE BLACK CAULDRON (1985), and this animated film changed the Disney Studio policies of not making the same mistakes.
@@kensuke0 Considering the fact that Disney helped kill their 2D film animation department due to the success of 3D animated films, The Black Cauldron was an example that the company heads probably used to state why 2D animation isn't profitable. Despite that I and many loved The Black Cauldron, Disney company heads wanted more money, which lead to weird directions even to this day. Walt Disney introduced 2D animated films and most of them were more close to entertainment for both adults and children, he helped with the production of Song of the South and that was a film that was rather controversial, but Walt Disney had faith in the film project. Goes to show that nowadays that after Walt died, so too did the original intention of the Walt Disney company. It was supposed to bring joy and happiness both to staff and audiences by creating entertainment that would attempt to end depression and spark imagination, but now it seems that the company wishes to kill imagination all for the sake of monetary gain after monetary gain that outdoes itself each time for the wrong reasons, even filming one of their films near a concentration camp in China. "of not making the same mistakes" is company head talk for, "we need to make money than making films not making money". It happens in all companies, it leads to failure after failure of films all for the sake of monetary gain. They are making money, but unfortunately making bad films in the process to this day. Not to shill, but I prefer Zack Snyder's Justice League over the entire MCU and DCCU. I saw something great in it that was missing in recent films, passion and imagination (by the way I love 4 hour films for some reason like Love Exposure and The Forest of Love). The Disney company suck and should be boycotted to teach them a lesson, or to stop this madness and to stop tarnishing a dead man's legacy with horrible greed and to stop killing franchises slowly.
I'm currently reading the Chronicles of Prydain, the book series this film is based on, and just as anyone would predict, the books are FAR more fascinating. So many characters that would have redeemed this movie are completely cut and with this version, it's basically a very hastily rushed plot borrowed from the first book with elements of the second book thrown in regardless of whether or not it makes sense
Presumably the book doesnt have Disney animation though. Just words on a page (little ink symbols consisting of simple angles and curves) I gather. Which puts a very hard limit on any fascination it might engender.
It's supposed to be a character arc where he learns to be a better person, but it's mangled by the editing and under-developed script. It doesn't help either that this film is made out of a hybrid of the first two books in a five-book series, the entirety of which is about Taran growing up and learning these lessons.
She is in the books. All the characters had so much potential on paper. Taran is a guy who earns other people respect as a result of his struggle to cope with the lack of high-born origin. Eilonwy is spunky and witty. Sadly the movie required much more length do develop their arcs.
It's dark how most of the voice cast from this movie are all no longer with us.
I love the 80s designs for this film! I hope Disney releases the film in 4K on Blu Ray, including the extended original version!!
They are finally releasing it, through the Disney Movie Club! Sadly there is still no extended cut.
@@JosephDavies I'm really excited for the Blu-ray release 😄
@@DTSsince2016 Me too! I thought I'd reply in case you weren't aware of it since you expressed interest here some time ago. :)
@@JosephDavies Thanks!
@deaththunderstudios1734 your gonna be waiting for a while buddy
Love seeing all the concept art in the second segment. The maquettes and the alternate dragon designs
Even though Susan Sheridan ended up voicing Eilonwy, her and Hailey’s voices do sound really similar IMO.
Who'd have thought that Mr. Ollivander would be the voice of the Horned King?
Well unlike most critics, I enjoyed The Black Cauldron. Hoping for a 4K Blu-Ray edition, and hoping for a live action version of its book series The Chronicles of Prydain!
I know the point of the story is character growth, but I couldn’t stand Taron or Gurgi. I thought Eilonwy was the only one with her head on her shoulders lol. Anyway I’m rewatching it on DisneyPlus right now. Love the animation. And honestly, I like a good film where the baddies are bad and the good guys are good.
Edit: I didn’t realize it was based on a book series. That makes sense why the characters are a bit flat. Still a good story.
2:12 Richard Rich 2:39 RIP Ted Berman (December 17, 1919 - July 15, 2001).
Hailey Mills sounds so regal, she should have been Eilonwy.
Susan Sheridan was good too.
1:47
Ooh! There's a young Andreas Deja!
I Liked They Showed Some Concept Art Of The Horned King In The Segment. They Also Mentioned About John Hurt voicing The Villainous Horned King In The Film.
Too bad Hailey Mills didn’t got the role at the end.
Susan Sheridan was amazing too.
what's the name of the energetic guy jumping up and down? 6:20-7:00
Phil Nibbelink
I think that's Guy vasilovich the layout artist/animator
After THE BLACK CAULDRON (1985) was a box office disappointment, the Disney Studio manager fired the producer and a few employees for working on THE BLACK CAULDRON (1985), and this animated film changed the Disney Studio policies of not making the same mistakes.
They also fired the director Richard Rich, who went on to make The Swan Princess
"of not making the same mistakes." wtf does that mean? lol
@@kensuke0 Considering the fact that Disney helped kill their 2D film animation department due to the success of 3D animated films, The Black Cauldron was an example that the company heads probably used to state why 2D animation isn't profitable. Despite that I and many loved The Black Cauldron, Disney company heads wanted more money, which lead to weird directions even to this day.
Walt Disney introduced 2D animated films and most of them were more close to entertainment for both adults and children, he helped with the production of Song of the South and that was a film that was rather controversial, but Walt Disney had faith in the film project.
Goes to show that nowadays that after Walt died, so too did the original intention of the Walt Disney company. It was supposed to bring joy and happiness both to staff and audiences by creating entertainment that would attempt to end depression and spark imagination, but now it seems that the company wishes to kill imagination all for the sake of monetary gain after monetary gain that outdoes itself each time for the wrong reasons, even filming one of their films near a concentration camp in China.
"of not making the same mistakes" is company head talk for, "we need to make money than making films not making money". It happens in all companies, it leads to failure after failure of films all for the sake of monetary gain. They are making money, but unfortunately making bad films in the process to this day.
Not to shill, but I prefer Zack Snyder's Justice League over the entire MCU and DCCU. I saw something great in it that was missing in recent films, passion and imagination (by the way I love 4 hour films for some reason like Love Exposure and The Forest of Love). The Disney company suck and should be boycotted to teach them a lesson, or to stop this madness and to stop tarnishing a dead man's legacy with horrible greed and to stop killing franchises slowly.
You forgot about that stupid Care Bears movie.
5:39Jonathan Winters was supposed to be in this film?
Yep.
I never seen this
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I'm currently reading the Chronicles of Prydain, the book series this film is based on, and just as anyone would predict, the books are FAR more fascinating.
So many characters that would have redeemed this movie are completely cut and with this version, it's basically a very hastily rushed plot borrowed from the first book with elements of the second book thrown in regardless of whether or not it makes sense
Presumably the book doesnt have Disney animation though. Just words on a page (little ink symbols consisting of simple angles and curves) I gather. Which puts a very hard limit on any fascination it might engender.
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I didn't like taron much I thought he was self obsorbed and wants to bring everyone down with the way he treats gergee and then olonween
Yeah I forgot what an arrogant little shit he was
@@torytellstales he was also prideful he keeps denying that hes not afraid but he really was.
It's supposed to be a character arc where he learns to be a better person, but it's mangled by the editing and under-developed script. It doesn't help either that this film is made out of a hybrid of the first two books in a five-book series, the entirety of which is about Taran growing up and learning these lessons.
Same! I liked the film as a kid, but I couldn’t stand Taron or Gurgi 😂
@@JosephDaviescharacter arcs are pretty gay tbh
Eilonwy is a spunky kind of person... Not.
right.
@@voicetalentBrendan i feel like haley mills as Eilonwy would have been interesting
Eilonwy is 110% spunky. That's one of her primary defining character traits.
She is in the books. All the characters had so much potential on paper. Taran is a guy who earns other people respect as a result of his struggle to cope with the lack of high-born origin. Eilonwy is spunky and witty. Sadly the movie required much more length do develop their arcs.
She wasn't as spunky as she was in the book, but she was spunky.