Quilen was in god mode at few months after introduction in AOV alone match winner. After nerfing it become less usable. He gets extra damage when attack from behind
She's like Bandina from Heroes Arena that I used to play they both work similar stealth and skill refreshes from kills. They have alot of heroes similar on HOK makes me wonder if these games were somehow related😅. Also nice gameplay.
Oh I remember this hero in AoV, it's the hero that kinda powercrept Butterfly because of their similar mechanic in reseting skills when getting a kill.
@@Jah442Hok yeah i agree on that too, majority of roamers are too squishy or not able to tank at all, they are more of a support roamer. hok pushing squishes out at first it seems
@@stazop with new update and item tank nerfed Damage build jungler are starting to dominate the meta except somes like Menki or Kaizer but mostly all jungler build Damage rn
Man, as if soloq in global version wasn't hard enough already with my map-blind team feeding to Lanling, here comes another invis heroes with better mobility than him + Butterfly's refresh mechanic for easier chain kills
@@youagain8447 it's okay, quillen is trash. Always has been, "back stab" gimmicks have always been bad in mobas, since usually the character is weaker from the front. They can usually ONLY attack from behind to do the same amount of damage as other junglers.
@@gameboyish My problem isn't really on the backstab mechanic itself, but on the fact that it's combined with a stealth mechanic, which is always a recipe for disaster (look no further than Dota 2's Riki). Is such kit going to be strong on competitive/pro scenes ? Absolutely not. But for average in-game Ranked ? It's arguably one of the most dangerous. Also, considering how HoK is more team-dependent than other mobile MOBAS (as in, you can't solo carry 4 trash teammates by yourself), character like Ake is going to be even more of a nightmare. As for how Quillen is bad in AoV, keep in mind that HoK doesn't have any rune-system that gave a hero bonus abilities, so its in-game is naturally more balanced. In practice, that means squishies won't have additional BS survivability outside their own skills while the gap between each junglers won't be as big in the early game. I almost forgot, the map in HoK is also bigger than AoV, so roamers won't be able to respond to ganks as fast as in AoV
@@youagain8447 I appreciate the well thought out response. Although I don't think it will be that bad, she'll have "new toy syndrome" then will go into the dustbin for 90% of players like most of the newly released characters have. Now I do agree with the concern about the average player feeding her, due to things like overextending, bad map awareness, poor positioning in teamfights, not leaving immediately when hp is like at 25%, etc. I don't think we will see too much of her after day 4 for it to make a difference especially if she isn't face roll easy like Da Siming for example. Most characters that have even baby levels of a skill ceiling get dropped quite fast in HoK from what I've seen. (Ziya, Shi, Yao, Ming Ya, and so on). Usually only if it's quite easy to get kills on, will players keep using her, which we know won't be the case. So sure, I can agree that WHEN she gets played, people will feed just like they feed prince even in GM rank, but unlike prince, I think she'll be played even less than him after the "new toy syndrome wears off." Sorry for the wall of text, on mobile.
Well that's a lot of dashes,the out play potential on this hero is great, another hero like han xin that I could use to troll 😌 BTW the ultimate's healing and other stuffs looks great as well can't wait to use this hero
kyoui i think you should take a look about Daji situation . i mean, even if I'm the super ahh tank and surpassed her with 5k gold she still can one shot me in late game like literally I can't gank her just second then ulti and I'm back to the base what loopholes you think she has so she can't be meta ?
She has the same skillset as butterfly 7 years ago before they reworked her. This is her before her rework: ua-cam.com/video/Fn2KT-vNX2U/v-deo.htmlsi=p-jGHUuqpVQMByM4 Glad she's coming to global.
Let’s prepare to play both ML and HOk everyday to buy all the heroes I want😭
Quilen was in god mode at few months after introduction in AOV alone match winner. After nerfing it become less usable. He gets extra damage when attack from behind
yup
She's like Bandina from Heroes Arena that I used to play they both work similar stealth and skill refreshes from kills. They have alot of heroes similar on HOK makes me wonder if these games were somehow related😅. Also nice gameplay.
Oh I remember this hero in AoV, it's the hero that kinda powercrept Butterfly because of their similar mechanic in reseting skills when getting a kill.
Quilen started out as powercreep but got nerfed to the point that BF is stronger and more durable than him.
Quilen is not stronger than bf in this current meta bro
when you said that a critical hit is guaranteed when an enemy is on a back position immediately reminds me of rikimaru dota😆😆😆
New character literally a backstabber in the whole new level😂
Quilen, if I am not mistaken you don't have to kill, just assist will reset her skill.
@@nightday2030 quilen is so, but im not sure is it the same for arke
If you played AOV this hero is Quillen
that's the one
aww man i want some tanky junglers who are sustain, not just the tunky build ones. a proper tanky jungler other than existing ones
I feel like we are lacking of real tank for roam not in jungle :(
@@Jah442Hok yeah i agree on that too, majority of roamers are too squishy or not able to tank at all, they are more of a support roamer. hok pushing squishes out at first it seems
@@stazop with new update and item tank nerfed Damage build jungler are starting to dominate the meta except somes like Menki or Kaizer but mostly all jungler build Damage rn
Man, as if soloq in global version wasn't hard enough already with my map-blind team feeding to Lanling, here comes another invis heroes with better mobility than him + Butterfly's refresh mechanic for easier chain kills
@@youagain8447 it's okay, quillen is trash. Always has been, "back stab" gimmicks have always been bad in mobas, since usually the character is weaker from the front. They can usually ONLY attack from behind to do the same amount of damage as other junglers.
@@gameboyish My problem isn't really on the backstab mechanic itself, but on the fact that it's combined with a stealth mechanic, which is always a recipe for disaster (look no further than Dota 2's Riki).
Is such kit going to be strong on competitive/pro scenes ? Absolutely not. But for average in-game Ranked ? It's arguably one of the most dangerous. Also, considering how HoK is more team-dependent than other mobile MOBAS (as in, you can't solo carry 4 trash teammates by yourself), character like Ake is going to be even more of a nightmare.
As for how Quillen is bad in AoV, keep in mind that HoK doesn't have any rune-system that gave a hero bonus abilities, so its in-game is naturally more balanced. In practice, that means squishies won't have additional BS survivability outside their own skills while the gap between each junglers won't be as big in the early game.
I almost forgot, the map in HoK is also bigger than AoV, so roamers won't be able to respond to ganks as fast as in AoV
@@youagain8447 I appreciate the well thought out response. Although I don't think it will be that bad, she'll have "new toy syndrome" then will go into the dustbin for 90% of players like most of the newly released characters have. Now I do agree with the concern about the average player feeding her, due to things like overextending, bad map awareness, poor positioning in teamfights, not leaving immediately when hp is like at 25%, etc. I don't think we will see too much of her after day 4 for it to make a difference especially if she isn't face roll easy like Da Siming for example. Most characters that have even baby levels of a skill ceiling get dropped quite fast in HoK from what I've seen. (Ziya, Shi, Yao, Ming Ya, and so on). Usually only if it's quite easy to get kills on, will players keep using her, which we know won't be the case. So sure, I can agree that WHEN she gets played, people will feed just like they feed prince even in GM rank, but unlike prince, I think she'll be played even less than him after the "new toy syndrome wears off." Sorry for the wall of text, on mobile.
That would happen to me, the jungle would invade me with it .w.
Dont take kyoui's word that she is a deadly assassin, he is going to make her deadly roamer instead
Ngl.. i love quileen design more than A'ke.
He is just so cool.
Well that's a lot of dashes,the out play potential on this hero is great, another hero like han xin that I could use to troll 😌 BTW the ultimate's healing and other stuffs looks great as well can't wait to use this hero
Ohh I can already see her in my clashlane 😅🥴
nightmare for squishy hero. better than Prince of lanling
Female Lanling but has a few Fang's element 🤔😏
kyoui i think you should take a look about Daji situation .
i mean, even if I'm the super ahh tank and surpassed her with 5k gold she still can one shot me in late game
like literally I can't gank her just second then ulti and I'm back to the base
what loopholes you think she has so she can't be meta ?
She's definitely meta at this point. She has the highest wr for a mage.
Daji is fine
She is literally weak in teamfights and she can't even burst tanky heroes unless she is so fed
guess I'm unlucky then
Hok pls make champ based on Rammus and Nunu. ❤
She has the same skillset as butterfly 7 years ago before they reworked her.
This is her before her rework: ua-cam.com/video/Fn2KT-vNX2U/v-deo.htmlsi=p-jGHUuqpVQMByM4
Glad she's coming to global.
Quillen from aov
is it good?..how popular is it in China server?
she is fine not that popular
So when are the reworks to Agudo and Nuwa becoming global?
Nuwa next season
Agudo no info yet
@kyouitv I am so excited for Nuwa's rework, it's gonna definitely make me want to try her again
gao's girlfriend is finally coming.
she is too easy to deal with, Especially she comes after Xuance, which can toy her like his puppet
When the snk campaign will start?
No info
@@kyouitv Will they add more SNK hero?
@@Enjina0810 there are rumors that iori and kyo might come soon so yup
@kyouitv Hopefully it will release sooner🥲 I'm tired of Ukyo, Mai, Nakoruru and Charlotte
Ake ake kimochi
Will this hero enter the global server before sikong zhen?
@@Reuopopi she comes first
Here we go, getting another average non game changing character.
Most meta heroes are already in the global server
The remaining heroes are just situational and good for pub gamers
@kyouitv we still haven't gotten any tanks (not supports) since launch.
@@gameboyish there aren't that many tanks in game
can they just release all the hero omg, i have more than 300K coins, i dont know what to do with it 😢
ARCANA UPGRADE even if the 2 are nowhere to be found in Pro Builds Lol
Gao's gf right
Looks like I Will Be Jungler Next Season 😂