For people who's interested, the Chinese hero was 趙雲 "Zhào Yún" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Yun , a famous general in the "Three Kingdoms" period. He was a favorite character of many readers in historical novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", just as Zoun quickly become many people's favorite protoss player.
I've seen Special throw a good advantage so many times by just taking everything and going on the other side. He had the advantage, why did he pull everything AGAIN?
pulling everything wasnt the problem, it was making a single mistake as a terran costing him the whole game unlike the other two where you can make a hundred mistakes in a game and your still ok, he wasnt sieged for a moment and he ust died in a game he was owning, 1 mistake kills terrans
@@simonriley8597 1 mistake and an army getting destroyed is normal for SC2, look at Harstem's recent game against Clem, he was doing well until one mistake pretty much cost him the game. It's not about race.
@@unknownperson-fw9rx Everyone knows that losing an army sucks obviously, the problem is what happens after that, what do you do afterwards? Obviously you holdout and replenish but what do you fall back to? As zerg remaxing 200 supply is super simple so long u dont screw up hitting a button on a hatchery, with toss you have Bat Overcharge nd chrono as well as recall to fall back behind with a line of shield bats that cost no supply, as a T what do you fall back to? A PT? lol dont make me laugh, Bunker? only works when supplied.
2:35:15: "So that's the Medivac's home now...." -Tasteless . . . LOL, the words to what we all feel at that moment. (he finishes with, "for some time", but it just funnier without the competence caveat)
Special is looking much thinner, hopefully the result off healthy diet and exercise and not some kind of eating disorder, he lost a lot of weight fast so it’s a little concerning
Zergs need to learn more aggression. Especially in ZvP, it has always been just a basic plan that Zerg just had to defend and hold off the toss, since Zerg had a big edge in the late game. Now that late game is more balanced, Zerg needs to start thinking about more aggression in the midgame. Also the way most Zerg play the late game is kind of terrible as well. Why no nydus network to bounce around the map? They basically just build a wall of spores and sit there waiting to die. Against a slow army like skytoss, they should be trying to constantly outmaneuver it. And really, why not make more corruptors? I feel like it's such an underestmated unit. Those things should be active around the map wrecking buildings. Nexuses, tech structures, etc. Assuming you can avoid storm and archons, both of which are slow, corruptors will dominate.
@@taragnor must be serral or reynor or a top korean zerg. you sound like a meta expert. just wow. shows how much you know when sos, dark and drg got raped.
@Calv Not related to the point btw For the OP's question: 1. Maru didn't even try to qualify for this tournament, prob to his shoulders' injury. 2. TY was eliminated by Zoun and Dream in the qualifier.
What would it take for ultras to be able to walk over other smaller units and not glitch out? I know this was asked like a week after wings of liberty came out, but better late than never right?
I love Tasteosis but they ragged on Cure WAY too much. We get it, he had a shit day. You don't need to talk about it a million times. Honestly, he looked like shit, so we know he wasn't playing at his usual level. I wonder if he was recovering from being sick.
special versus zest. just remembering why I quit playing and quit spectating. ggs people, seeya after the nerf, buff or on the next rts. guess i am cancelling my twitch subscriptions. eat it, activision
The problem with ZvP is that not only does Protoss have the uber army, it is impossible to counter attack because of cannons, batteries and recall. It's fine that Protoss get this huge army eventually, but they shouldn't be so stable at home and mobile with this army at the same time. You see Armani trying to do something with lings while Zoun is out of position, but there is nothing he can do with them. Muta is a dead unit because it is so hard countered by phoenix, and anyway to attack into batteries and cannons you need a lot of them, not just a few.
Activision-Blizzard saw a legitimate problem with PvZ, so they figured, "We can make some money on the way out by buffing the voidray and selling a voidray banner lootbox." Then, they disbanded the team. Now, we're left with a matchup where Z has no way to attack without going all-in, and Protoss has no way to be competitive without going Skytoss. But at least Activision-Blizzard made money before abandoning the game in this state.
GUY IN THE CHAT: (dcp2047) It's very possible that today only protoss will win. The current inmbalance is quite strong and the skill of the players today is pretty even. So similar skill + IMBA race = WIN ME: check out the finals, you cry baby
![[ENG] 2020 GSL SuperTournament II Day2 (Ro.16)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/L1AR0oQmCvg/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[ENG] 2020 GSL S2 Code S RO24 Group C](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0JcS5YQQrak/mqdefault.jpg)
TIMESTAMPS
as I watch it
Banter starts - 16:37
Match 1 - Zoun v Armani
Map 1 - 21:15
Map 2 - 49:06
Map 3 - 58:53
Match 2 - Cure v Parting
Map 1 - 1:14:54
Map 2 - 1:24:57
Map 3 - 1:39:26
Match 3 - Stats v Bunny
Map 1 - 2:08:17
Map 2 - 2:20:16
Map 3 - 2:30:30
Map 4 - 2:46:42
Match 4 - Zest v Special
Map 1 - 3:09:01
Map 2 - 3:18:28
Map 3 - 3:32:51
@@meganleppky6224 go away
thank you for your service
@@AdditionalPylons1 my pleasure
mega spoiler thanks
Yeah, sucks to have the results already in the comments
GSL is better than any other broadcast in any genre.
Amen
and its not like I dont try to watch the other tournaments but GSL just has such personality
Let's be real, Starcraft is better than most shows.
@@echostarling84 Tastosis
@@dukenovalith than all shows
That SpeCial series was amazing! What an ending! I'm sad to see him go but this is THE way to go. GG SpeCIal!
For people who's interested, the Chinese hero was 趙雲 "Zhào Yún" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Yun , a famous general in the "Three Kingdoms" period.
He was a favorite character of many readers in historical novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", just as Zoun quickly become many people's favorite protoss player.
Special has lost weight. Good for him
He's been doing a diet from some nutritionist in Mexico. Sounded weird when he talked about it on his stream but seems to be working!
And playing great
He's looking great!
@@Dylan13Nessman h hb. B. H. B h.
@@Dylan13Nessman ㅗㅗㅗ ㅗㅠㅗ ㅗㅗㅗ ㅗ ㅗㅠ. ㅠㅠㅗ ㅠㅠ ㅠㅗㅠㅠ ㅠㅗ ㅗㅠㅠ ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅗ. ㅠ
ZOUN = Zhao Yun, a hero from the "3 kingdoms" era.
did they talk at all about special losing weight? he's looking good.
I noticed it immediately, the dude is looking great!
Holy moly just got to his match and you weren't kidding, good for him
3:07:15
"The Terran army is stronger, but this one is invisible" !!! classic line..
I've never heard Tastosis being so disappointed ever in GSL
And rightfully so, cure looked like he was high or smth in that game. Very poor performance.
@@Fatiax3 looked like Parting paid him
Yeah the Special series was kinda meh too. Overall these were pretty one-sided games, which is never great for casting.
Toss player here but Bunny is the underdog I always root for. Glad to see him playing so well.
1:29:40 This game is like a dumpster fire, but the dumpster is also falling down a flight of stairs
"Everybodys watching that dumpster fly nodding their head with a single tear coming down" Lol fucking amazing
Well played Special and you are looking very fit currently, good work my friend!
Cure was playing like he got paid by Parting to lose
Dude I was straight up thinking he was throwing those games
What gave it away was when he didn't drop the open base
Anyone have the song name at 1:23:52 ??? Its so dope, I need it!
If you have 5 thumbs, would you be able to cook a chicken with only 16,000 slaps? instead of 23 k?
GSL music is always so on point.
Somebody tell me why I can't buy a GSL Jacket in 2022.
I've seen Special throw a good advantage so many times by just taking everything and going on the other side. He had the advantage, why did he pull everything AGAIN?
pulling everything wasnt the problem, it was making a single mistake as a terran costing him the whole game unlike the other two where you can make a hundred mistakes in a game and your still ok, he wasnt sieged for a moment and he ust died in a game he was owning, 1 mistake kills terrans
@@simonriley8597 dude he didnt siege for like 10 seconds after seeing that zest is attacking, you cant blame balance for this.
@@qweasdzxc i didnt, read again and its just saying terrans need a setup phase in attacking and defending and cant A-move for defending or attacking
@@simonriley8597 1 mistake and an army getting destroyed is normal for SC2, look at Harstem's recent game against Clem, he was doing well until one mistake pretty much cost him the game. It's not about race.
@@unknownperson-fw9rx Everyone knows that losing an army sucks obviously, the problem is what happens after that, what do you do afterwards? Obviously you holdout and replenish but what do you fall back to? As zerg remaxing 200 supply is super simple so long u dont screw up hitting a button on a hatchery, with toss you have Bat Overcharge nd chrono as well as recall to fall back behind with a line of shield bats that cost no supply, as a T what do you fall back to? A PT? lol dont make me laugh, Bunker? only works when supplied.
2:49:18 "Cure was like the burglars in Home Alone". What an amazing insult
50:57 Artosis you are talking about efficiency vs efficacy
Love the Van Halen tribute RIP Eddie Van Halen
That opening track made me think of Ready Player One and the Oasis...how badass would starcraft be in that setting with GSL?
35:40 - when did mass void-rays become a viable strat?
Last patch, they reduced the production cost and increased the move speed :D
I hope Cure is alright, dude looked like he hadn't slept for two days straight.
It's been so long that I forgot about GSL. Please forgive me world. I'm so happy this is back 😀
So all protoss players moved on except for Stats ?
Zest and Special was my favorite, both of them look so great.
How tf did Zest win game 1 lol. That has to hurt specials mental.
Anyone know the name of the song playing at the very beginning of the video?
Best format ever
I liked the Turret line in the main from Bunny in Game 3. Seeing it much to rarely in TvP.
jptop.buzz
I love you guys! :)
Looking at this a few years later, Cure has really improved a lot.
Cmon Stats, what is going on with you!
Where's Maru, TY and Rogue?
Cure vs parting matchfix? I believe so
Tasteless: "Cure was playing like he was the burglars from home alone."
"The bun is in the oven!" Classic Tastosis
Why weren't Maru, Ty, or Rogue in this?
Not sure about Maru or TY but Rogue lost in qualifiers to Special
@@BackyardFilms2 Maru choose to not participate. TY didn't qualify.
2:35:15: "So that's the Medivac's home now...." -Tasteless . . . LOL, the words to what we all feel at that moment. (he finishes with, "for some time", but it just funnier without the competence caveat)
.... did cure throw?
Zest vs Special was a really cool series, kind of unlucky though
2 days of GSL, 40 maps picked. 0 submarine.
Can't believe Zest played the QT build
no hands, no brain, no economy
12 pylon because who needs probes
Special looks amazing! He lost so much weight!
yeah biggest win of the day
Special game won should have won. He just kept walking back and forth with his army, doing nothing. Kinda sad. Thought he would have won it
I wonder where is Maru?
Special is looking much thinner, hopefully the result off healthy diet and exercise and not some kind of eating disorder, he lost a lot of weight fast so it’s a little concerning
Tastosis was so much better today. Maybe they were just getting back in the groove yesterday man day 1 was a Mess
LMAO Parting "My international fans thought I would go down first. I hope they think ... and learn the game".
lol why even bother asking whether Bunny would play Zest or Special? What else is he gonna say?
speaking of special hoooooly shit he looks HOT
is cure vs parting a throwing game?
No zerg left. They need to find a way to survive in the current meta.
Step 1: unbind F2 and relearn to play SC2 like a pro instead of an ogre.
just make queens
@@wrathofcorn terran found.. patch no terran tears
Zergs need to learn more aggression. Especially in ZvP, it has always been just a basic plan that Zerg just had to defend and hold off the toss, since Zerg had a big edge in the late game. Now that late game is more balanced, Zerg needs to start thinking about more aggression in the midgame.
Also the way most Zerg play the late game is kind of terrible as well. Why no nydus network to bounce around the map? They basically just build a wall of spores and sit there waiting to die. Against a slow army like skytoss, they should be trying to constantly outmaneuver it.
And really, why not make more corruptors? I feel like it's such an underestmated unit. Those things should be active around the map wrecking buildings. Nexuses, tech structures, etc. Assuming you can avoid storm and archons, both of which are slow, corruptors will dominate.
@@taragnor must be serral or reynor or a top korean zerg. you sound like a meta expert. just wow. shows how much you know when sos, dark and drg got raped.
that zest vs special was insane! watch zest win the super tournament and special cudda got second but everyone remembers him as getting out in ro 16
Artosis said Zuan's name right before...
Special looking like he's lost some weight
Tanks should get a upgrade like lurkers or lurkers should lose their instant burrow unburrow ability.
He did skip his first probe.
Did Cure throw that series? Life vibes?
Ya dude looks like it
where's Maru, TY, and Inno?
Innovation played yesterday
@@noblecyborg-savage thanks man
@Calv Not related to the point btw
For the OP's question:
1. Maru didn't even try to qualify for this tournament, prob to his shoulders' injury.
2. TY was eliminated by Zoun and Dream in the qualifier.
@@Whalery Thanks for letting us know. Was wondering.
What about Rogue?
Parting=GOAT
Cure throwing it for the kingpins, or what?
3:49:00 song?
darude - sandstorm
Juanito tenias para ganar la ultima era llevar todo en el drop y nada caminando
1:12:30 yes protoss has 3 fingers and it's more than enough to dominate the gsl st !!!!
For a GSL super tournament Cure played so badly, no reason for him to make THAT many mistakes.
It looked like he purposely thrown that match tbh
Cure played like diamond honestly
@@theuntamed3214 A diamond player can't even execute more demanding builds. What are you talking about xD
This is how you play when you know a bookie and you want a new apartment
What would it take for ultras to be able to walk over other smaller units and not glitch out? I know this was asked like a week after wings of liberty came out, but better late than never right?
Anyone know where maru is?
he lost in the qualifiers
@@ShintoshiVT No he didn't stop making stuff up.. he didn't participate in this tourney because of injuries
@@kalee6 oh, I think I got him confused with rogue and TY
Thank you Afreeca
Maru: is that you?
Bunny: Yes....
"The Bun is in the oven."
How do you see these games & think TvP isn't protoss favored?
Because Terrans have gotten lazy thinking they can always win.
I don't know which games you were watching, but those games vs special it seemed like zest had no chance in any of them from start to (almost) finish.
@@TheDolmant Seriously? The series where he went 3-0 against special?
Holy crap, SpeCial! :O Going from looking almost gross, to being somewhat attractive? Nicely done by him.
Damn it was like cure didnt show up.
well thank god for Bunny. because protoss is making me give up SC2 at the moment.
You've given up on SC2 quite a bit then over the years.
I love Tasteosis but they ragged on Cure WAY too much. We get it, he had a shit day. You don't need to talk about it a million times. Honestly, he looked like shit, so we know he wasn't playing at his usual level. I wonder if he was recovering from being sick.
WTF Cure???
WTF Bunny???
Special is looking VERY good, especially his appearance and weight loss 👍
Fuckin shit dude! Way to go Special! He looks like 60 lbs lighter at least! Good job man!
darn. protoss about to get hella nerfed now.
I love Artosis and Tasteless but it would be nice if they sometimes had different casters who could provide deeper analysis of the game.
the commentators ruined it for me. the negative talk on some of the matches was unprofessional.
man Cure losing is suss...
jptop.buzz
Genuinely looks like a thrown match.
For about 20 seconds this had the best opening wait music ever on gsl.
Wow why do they all look like they hadnt slept 24 hours +
wwwwtttfffff
Bunny playing really well but he needs to stop doing that flicking thing he does with his hands. That's actually terrible for the joints.
special versus zest. just remembering why I quit playing and quit spectating. ggs people, seeya after the nerf, buff or on the next rts.
guess i am cancelling my twitch subscriptions. eat it, activision
You quit because sick games? Ok bro. Also no clue what you are doing with your twitch subs to begin with xD
The problem with ZvP is that not only does Protoss have the uber army, it is impossible to counter attack because of cannons, batteries and recall. It's fine that Protoss get this huge army eventually, but they shouldn't be so stable at home and mobile with this army at the same time. You see Armani trying to do something with lings while Zoun is out of position, but there is nothing he can do with them. Muta is a dead unit because it is so hard countered by phoenix, and anyway to attack into batteries and cannons you need a lot of them, not just a few.
Activision-Blizzard saw a legitimate problem with PvZ, so they figured, "We can make some money on the way out by buffing the voidray and selling a voidray banner lootbox." Then, they disbanded the team. Now, we're left with a matchup where Z has no way to attack without going all-in, and Protoss has no way to be competitive without going Skytoss. But at least Activision-Blizzard made money before abandoning the game in this state.
Love it
Spoilers
Poor Armani, dude can't catch a break
OHHH BUNNY... YOU SO YUMMY!
BUNNY ,STATS TE DEJO GANAR ,NO TENGO IDEA DEL PORQUE PERO ES MUY OBVIO
They call him Timethumbs
Protos good unit. DT good unit. Protos = > % win. It's why I stopped playing years ago.
Or you just play with a keyboard. It's not that hard to beat a Protoss. Happens all the time.
GUY IN THE CHAT: (dcp2047) It's very possible that today only protoss will win. The current inmbalance is quite strong and the skill of the players today is pretty even. So similar skill + IMBA race = WIN
ME: check out the finals, you cry baby
Armani game 1.... “lemme just kill these carriers first”
protoss looks balanced!
Super tournament rules
Whoa Special da real mvp
ZvP lategame is such a fucking joke lmao, corruptors don't even do anything due to voidrays being so fucking strong