I fully appreciate your F-22's sacrifice to prove the flight time. This makes me really start looking at beefier ESC's, and maybe separate BEC. I still don't have the F-22 yet, but soon. You just flew the Rafale 80mm and now this F22. How do you think the two compare?
A few times I thought you had GBLynden commentating with you. Oh man thats sucks she went down. My Freewing Hawk cut power to ESC but still had power to controls. I was on 8s on a 120A Hobbywing esc. Managed to land and had 30% left in the tank. Had all cutoff settings disabled. Unplugged, plugged back in and fine. Sometimes these ESC have a mind of their own.
For extreme flight time a 6S2P LiIon with Molicel P45B weighting 950g should be cool as with 9000mAh! :D But voltage cut off must be deactivated to fly until 2,8V ....
So if you were using the onboard BEC you most likely hit thermal shut down threshold. Running partial throttle will make the fets work super hard and actually increase the esc temps more than if you were to go full throttle. With the Avians you can set the telemetry to warn you if its getting too hot and there are settings that can be changed to keep this from happening. Steady partial throttle is really hard on am esc! However I do have a video of me flying my F-22 over 7 mins 😜😜😜
I got 6:30+ min on my Viper 90mm and Cougar 80mm on those same packs, but it was total flight time and landing on storage or just below. To do it on throttle time is super risky... Not saying it can't be done with the right EDF plane and conditions, but it's risky. 😬 Especially since you taxi out 60-70 metres and on grass too. LoL. Like, why would you do that and not walk the plane out to preserve every mAh you can? Really strange choice there... Anyway, sorry about the crash, it does look fixable with a bit of time, glue and fresh coat of paint. Good luck with it and thanks for the vid. 🙂
Shit! I haven´t had a Turnigy lipo but I have seen many puffed. Good it wasn´t the battery in this case but annoying that the ESC or Rx quit. Would be cool to know the reason. Your Rx still works (mayber some servo current overload?)? Separate BEC is safer but also more work and parts. I´m sorry for the damage and hope she gets a nice repair!
@@rcpilotwillOK, good decision for bigger planes. But do you think it was to less/much current on the BEC? Does the ESC/Bec still work normally and what about the Receiver!? Would be nice to now the answer :)))
😢sorry about your plane Will! That one hurt. But…… 😂 lady’s don’t believe him. He didn’t last 6 minutes! I Laughed so hard I forgot about my little scrapes & bruises from todays flights😂 just like my friends. Never a bad time for a good laugh.
Oh man that hurts, I almost lost one of my F22s by taking off with a discharged battery (60%). Fortunately when it died it was only a few feet in the air.
@sendit_rc no it's a Freewing 120amp you can set the voltage low but can't turn it off. I was in the mid 22 volt witch is definitely enough before the 3 volt per cell cutoff.
same thing happend to me but i had the 8cell version , I had no power to control anything so it glided over the airfield fance and did not ever find it.
I know that was going to happen before it happened. You overdid your flight time.. your ESC is not rated high enough that's why I run 150 amp ESC in all my Jets and I want minimum 7,000 milliamp batteries with a minimum 100 c capacity rating well a little more common sense you could have avoided this... Remember this is DC current which is direct current for idiots that don't know they draw a lot of amperage and a lot of resistance. And you went way past the 3-minute mark so the fault is on you not on the equipment my Jets I get exactly 7 minute flight time and that's what throttle management is called common sense.!!!
@kevincombs1618 Listen to you you're trying to tell me about DC power and amps and how you fly all your jets on 7000mah 100c packs which everyone knows C ratings are a lie. If you know so much then you would've heard i had more than 22.2 volts remaining. You would also know thats 3.7 volts per cell storage charge. Then you claim 7 minutes on all your jets that you have no videos of you flying except someone else flying a UMX Cessna that your camera quality seems to be so outdated to say you posted it in 2024 the tracking was trash. You only have shorts of 2 edfs a bomber and f14 80mm from eflite that you needed help with the gear door mechanism HA. I'd love to see you get off the ground with that f18 80mm with a 7000mah 100c pack. I have that jet and the space is limited it has a hard time rotating with a 5000mah 60c. Do yourself a favor before you speak think 1st and review someone before you say something. Also plenty of rc pilots know how to how to extend their flight time and know that sticking a big pack in will not gain the results. If you got it down to science give us a video uncut flight 7 minutes in a 90mm edf of your choice.
You handled that crash so calmly. No matter what the cause I'll stress out for days over a crash like that.
Unfortunately crashes like this come with the hobby
Will nice job , your fun to watch thanks for sharing
I fully appreciate your F-22's sacrifice to prove the flight time. This makes me really start looking at beefier ESC's, and maybe separate BEC. I still don't have the F-22 yet, but soon. You just flew the Rafale 80mm and now this F22. How do you think the two compare?
Both are gentle and great flyers but the F-22 has more capabilities in the air.
@@rcpilotwill Thanks man having your validation pretty much seals the deal for me. Looking forward to seeing that raptor fly again!
A few times I thought you had GBLynden commentating with you. Oh man thats sucks she went down. My Freewing Hawk cut power to ESC but still had power to controls. I was on 8s on a 120A Hobbywing esc. Managed to land and had 30% left in the tank. Had all cutoff settings disabled. Unplugged, plugged back in and fine. Sometimes these ESC have a mind of their own.
I find myself believing the same thing cause now it flys fine.
For extreme flight time a 6S2P LiIon with Molicel P45B weighting 950g should be cool as with 9000mAh! :D But voltage cut off must be deactivated to fly until 2,8V ....
That's why I run a separate 2 cell battery for the electronics instead of relying on the ESC and the main battery for everything.
That's my next mod
@@rcpilotwill yes I highly recommend it. I usually run 2S 1300 to 2200 batteries depending on the plane size. With a 5A or greater uBec.
I need to learn how to do this.
So if you were using the onboard BEC you most likely hit thermal shut down threshold. Running partial throttle will make the fets work super hard and actually increase the esc temps more than if you were to go full throttle. With the Avians you can set the telemetry to warn you if its getting too hot and there are settings that can be changed to keep this from happening. Steady partial throttle is really hard on am esc! However I do have a video of me flying my F-22 over 7 mins 😜😜😜
how does it work?
I got 6:30+ min on my Viper 90mm and Cougar 80mm on those same packs, but it was total flight time and landing on storage or just below. To do it on throttle time is super risky... Not saying it can't be done with the right EDF plane and conditions, but it's risky. 😬 Especially since you taxi out 60-70 metres and on grass too. LoL. Like, why would you do that and not walk the plane out to preserve every mAh you can? Really strange choice there...
Anyway, sorry about the crash, it does look fixable with a bit of time, glue and fresh coat of paint. Good luck with it and thanks for the vid. 🙂
Thank you. So I will attempt this again cause I know it can be done.
Shit! I haven´t had a Turnigy lipo but I have seen many puffed. Good it wasn´t the battery in this case but annoying that the ESC or Rx quit. Would be cool to know the reason. Your Rx still works (mayber some servo current overload?)? Separate BEC is safer but also more work and parts. I´m sorry for the damage and hope she gets a nice repair!
Yeah I'm gonna do the ubec dedicated power mod next.
@@rcpilotwillOK, good decision for bigger planes. But do you think it was to less/much current on the BEC? Does the ESC/Bec still work normally and what about the Receiver!? Would be nice to now the answer :)))
6 Minutes! LOL!!
😢sorry about your plane Will! That one hurt. But……
😂 lady’s don’t believe him. He didn’t last 6 minutes! I Laughed so hard I forgot about my little scrapes & bruises from todays flights😂 just like my friends. Never a bad time for a good laugh.
😂😂😂 that's why I fly with these guys. It's always a fun time.
Aww man that blows, sorry that happened brother, but please let us know what happened.
It had to be a power loss to the ubec
Oh man that hurts, I almost lost one of my F22s by taking off with a discharged battery (60%). Fortunately when it died it was only a few feet in the air.
@notoo7 yeah have to say I made that mistake before too 😆
we all have our day's and i have seen many of them.
Very true statement. 👍🏾
Im gonna say low voltage cutoff to esc underload.sorry to see that will 🥲
Not sure about that cause I did a 6 minute flight on a different day but nobody was there with me that day.
@@rcpilotwill did you have lvc disabled?
@sendit_rc no it's a Freewing 120amp you can set the voltage low but can't turn it off. I was in the mid 22 volt witch is definitely enough before the 3 volt per cell cutoff.
Great test will. You'll have her back in the air in no time
Thanks bud. She's already flying again.
I've landed at 20% without any problems with my F22...hope you get it figured out...
Thanks
same thing happend to me but i had the 8cell version , I had no power to control anything so it glided over the airfield fance and did not ever find it.
Yikes I don't like a fly away.
Esc got hot at 4.25 minutes maybe.
Could have but I have a ubec so I should have been able to still control it. It's a very weird thing that happened.
RISKY BUSINESS ANYTIME 😊
You would of got 6 min
I know that was going to happen before it happened. You overdid your flight time.. your ESC is not rated high enough that's why I run 150 amp ESC in all my Jets and I want minimum 7,000 milliamp batteries with a minimum 100 c capacity rating well a little more common sense you could have avoided this... Remember this is DC current which is direct current for idiots that don't know they draw a lot of amperage and a lot of resistance. And you went way past the 3-minute mark so the fault is on you not on the equipment my Jets I get exactly 7 minute flight time and that's what throttle management is called common sense.!!!
Sit down bud, chill out 😂
@kevincombs1618 Listen to you you're trying to tell me about DC power and amps and how you fly all your jets on 7000mah 100c packs which everyone knows C ratings are a lie. If you know so much then you would've heard i had more than 22.2 volts remaining. You would also know thats 3.7 volts per cell storage charge. Then you claim 7 minutes on all your jets that you have no videos of you flying except someone else flying a UMX Cessna that your camera quality seems to be so outdated to say you posted it in 2024 the tracking was trash. You only have shorts of 2 edfs a bomber and f14 80mm from eflite that you needed help with the gear door mechanism HA. I'd love to see you get off the ground with that f18 80mm with a 7000mah 100c pack. I have that jet and the space is limited it has a hard time rotating with a 5000mah 60c. Do yourself a favor before you speak think 1st and review someone before you say something. Also plenty of rc pilots know how to how to extend their flight time and know that sticking a big pack in will not gain the results. If you got it down to science give us a video uncut flight 7 minutes in a 90mm edf of your choice.