What a thought-provoking documentary conducted with respect, dignity, and tolerance. I, like most people, felt the outcome was appalling and unsatisfactory. Apete, should have served a very very long time in prison, the justice system has failed Scott's family. May Greg and John rest in peace.
I have never witnessed such a personal and tragic story provided with such honesty, sensitivity and tolerance , realizing the various indirect victims besides his brother and not making judgements on the circumstances of the various tragic acts. It seems that this brother lives the spirit of tolerance, care and making no judgement as his father was preaching them but not practicing them.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 Blaming the victim is nothing unusual, your efforts to do the same here are as tired and disgusting as the rest. It's all too common for monstrous internet trolls and homophobic corrupt politicians to make false accusations that so easily appeal to the hate and fear inside people, especially the feeble-minded, in order to deflect attention and responsibility from the actual perpetrators. The depths of chauvinism is boundless in its defense of evil.
@@jbdbean242 It's all to easy too to find nastiness going on within the circles of important people ;politicians, celebrities and the like, when people brave enough dig deep. When I heard the circumstances of the murder I couldn't help recall the revelations about so called charity workers, including the Red Cross, sexually exploiting youngsters who were victims of a natural disaster in Haiti. This is not blaming the victim, this is being alert to what people with power over others can do and how it can be covered up, sometimes for decades.
"Indigenous Fijians were generally comfortable with colonial rule" says the white man. I wonder if any indigenous Fijians who actually lived under colonial rule would have chosen that for themselves.
@@NannupTiger Fijians weren't cannibals stupid! There was only chiefs who were cannibals. They only ate to embarrass their enemy. Any enemy killed was cooked as a reminder to the people and other enemies
You'd be surprised just how many people were cannibalistic throughout history, as @tas tiger says, there were other reasons for ingesting human flesh than the food aspect.
Possibly Apete was a subconscious homosexual himself and unable to live with his feelings. Judgemental people often are that way because they're afraid that they themselves will be judged, so they sell themselves as being the opposite of how they feel inside. Shakespeare's "methinks thou protests too much" pretty much says it all.
Did you interview him.. did you know apete..?? Do you know what John Scott was doing behind close doors to young men.. if you don't know how news travels in fiji, then shut the fuk up
Sad to hear even his friend saying "you know but he never brought that life into our life" as if they were friends with him but he couldn't be his true self. Sad. Very sad.
Nah just compartmentalized....I have friends that I'm very close too and consider my best friends and I'm a Christian.... they aren't and we have a lot of other things in common but I don't cast them away it dose make me a little sad, but I know people are all diffrent.
I'm so sorry the the 2 beautiful souls who were brutally murdered by a psychopath who used God and "so called morals" as an excuse to steal their last breath. This documentary was really well done.
This was extremely heartbreaking to watch. I was just a kid when John and Greg died and was ignorant of the facts of this case. Today I just learnt where they were murdered. I go past it everyday on my way to work and didn't even know it....
He gets a plea of insanity, justice was not done here. What a brilliant documentary and one on UA-cam where you get a conclusion and not cut off. RIP John Scott and Greg.
This was very profound on so very many levels. Living in the U.S. a week or so after an attempted coup, my fascination with the colonials in spite of hating their hubris and exploitation of others, my growing disdain for the religion in which I was inculcated, and frustration with the hypocracy of those who think they have an absolute right to dictate how others live , this film documentary touched on all of these.
Your comment is insightful and profound, in its own way, if only we would all question the things we are taught from a young age, history is what it is, humanity and kindness and learning from society’s past mistakes, is what might lead us all on a path the loving understanding relationship that all human beings should share.....ideally 🌺🌸👍✌️
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Your comment does not reflect the documentary with the least bit of accuracy. Take off your biased glasses, check yourself, and watch it again. However, if you are unable in the least to critically assess that which is fed to you, perhaps the effort would just be a waste.
I almost ignored this documentary. Thank goodness I watched it. I highly recommend it, not that I liked the outcome, but it is truly a wonderful documentary, music and all.
I really didn't expect this excellent documentary when I clicked on this. A good example of colonial missionary preaching and moralising coming back to bite you. Thanks a lot for uploading this , I learnt a lot. Btw an very worthy book which have many tales of the South Pacific in the colonial period is the Complete works of Jack London.
Whenever i came across those stories, it's irritated me, how those bastards invaded the world and charmingly belittle our ancestors, abusing their gratitude and oppressed them, divided the sub and take advantage over the native.
You didn't actually watch this documentary did you. Pay attention. Your own vile blind hatred and propaganda filled brain has twisted your meager ability to think.
I am sorry but I had to laugh when the guy said " I though it was a fu*k buddy gone wrong". He just said it so casually like a fuc*k buddy gone wrong is a regular occurrence in that area.😆
Learned a few new things here. Tragic and very interesting at the same time. I hope the people of this beautiful island are living a better life without the enforced colonialism. Thank you for sharing.
He’s a murderer who should have been found guilty. John and Greg’s deaths were horrific. There is no excuse. Apete could get counseling behind a maximum security wall. 😢❤️🇺🇸
You know nothing about what this two were doing in fiji, and what they did to apete.. fiji is a small place, we know what happens in the community.. do some digging before you point the finger
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Who are the ones that have been pushing religion on indigenous people, in every corner of the earth, since the beginning of time? These people didn't have any religions before they were colonized. Sons are the ones that will pay for the sins of their father.
This is awful I couldn’t hurt anyone no matter what they like in life their choice their life let them live it how they want to! Be part of helping keep people safe like the guy said look for what you have in common
If this documentary is any representation it is a hate-filled xenophobic and homophobic country. Shame to see human hatred and corruption so prevalent in such a beautiful place.
@@jbdbean242 Come on mate each and every country has it's own flaws , it's not like every country is perfect . Besides it happened 2 decades ago and that's all in the past .
Colonization has a lot of benefits for the colony in question. They get technology, education and military protection from a more advanced culture (if the colonizer wasn't more advanced than the other country wouldn't have become their colony). In material terms it makes complete sense that people would accept colonization. The reason people typically dispute colonial claims are for non-material reasons, typically philosophical or cultural in nature
@ChurchofCiiku - Racist drivel. Prior to colonialism was total conquer, annihilation and subjugation, such as Genghis Khan, the Ottoman Empire, and similar tribal warfare anywhere on the planet. Colonialism was no such thing, and allowed for some relative autonomy and symbiosis. Despite conflict and power struggles, it also was not a product of invasion, as were the previous examples given, and also the expansions by invasion of the more recent totalitarian Communist and fascist states of the USSR and (defeated) Nazis and Imperialist Japan.
44:59 IN that momment your life changes forever. It's like you have been BRANDED. Is like you have a mark on your skin in a secret place that very few people will ever see" - best definition of how a family is affected for the rest o their lives after having a loved one murdered.
Gay or not, it’s a human life. If you takes someone”s life, you gotta to pay the price. I guess he is gonna pray for God’s forgiveness after using God as scapegoat...
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
This is the elephant in the room. This is why gay people must fight for their rights in court against the forces of religious evil. It amazes me that their were no psychiatrists allowed to speak in this doc. This is about shadow issues on the part of the killer. He kills the thing he wants but cannot accept. This is how religion is complicit in the murders. And the officials and police chief are guilty of protecting this pathetic man. I hope that all gay foreigners see this and boycott Fiji. As for gays living there, I pity you having to suffer such an evil society.
In the US it would have been considered a hate crime. I think in knowing the culture there, John was in danger living openly and he had to know that. Regardless, what a terrible thing.
The insanity plea is bullshit the murdered ones don’t get their life back so why should Apete be comfortable. Apete came back to Fuji to kill that couple and that what’s he did he knew what he did
I have to say I don't like the way a lot of these white rich people are speaking about the fiji people . A lot of them still sound racist , sexist and elitist
@@ydcee3123 Some barbaric practices have been stopped by colonisers - there are good sides. Occupation of foreign land is as old as history itself and helped develop healthy populations and minimise recessive genes.
All white people arent this way but I do find a lot of Europeans are still this way about everyone. People blame the USA for this shot when Europe was and still is the cause of most shot that’s ever gone wrong or happened in the world.
Pure bs, your victim blaming for this horror is sickening. This was pure blind hatred with a mix of mental illness, he knew what he was doing. He was raised in a homophobic country and steeped in hatred for the Indian community, and when he saw John go to their aid in the violent coup he snapped. This was a vicious and brutal hate crime, and he was let off easy because of race, homophobia and celebrity, a popular local who was a big star athlete. It's a devastating but tired old story no matter what part of the planet you're on.
@@jbdbean242 I’ve checked out a few of your comments to others. It appears to me that you are the one full of hatred and anger. You should seek help immediately, sir.
Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
By the end of the documentary they given up on putting subtitles on the indigenan's. This fact was BODERING ME. WHY did someone choosed to subtitle only them when all of them talk in perfect english? The murderer's mother speaks perfectly clear. Then some brit would talk and you could barely undertand... but there was no subtitles.
The consequences of colonialism and the subjugation of sovereign nations by Christianity in the name of 'civilisation' are apparent here. There can be no doubt that every colonised nation in the world, if left to their own devices instead, would now be much better off. That being said, the murder of John Scott and Greg Scrivener is tragic, as are all atrocities committed in the name of 'God'. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil-that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg
One thing that was touched on, which should have been explored was the mention of other boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as a child by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apete would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's not uncommon for sexual predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming evangelical Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Amazing that the idea of the “noble savage” continues to persist. To suggest that if those nations were left to their own devices they would be much better off today is arrant nonsense.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@KaLeCaFe History does not reveal its alternatives, but the suggestion that nations are 'savage' without the 'civlising' efforts of colonial powers is extremely condescending.
As a Christian myself in my own understanding of the bible. It's up to the creator of us all to judge us all & as for us all to continue loving and caring for one another.. we must all remember this one thing that when "GOD SENTS THE SUN AND THE RAIN " he doesn't send it upon normal people only he sents it upon everyone to all his creations...may those two R.I.P. and when the judgement day comes let God judge us all...
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@makearunat read the comments. Here’s one and perhaps you should watch again. “Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved”
hes a gay rights activist if you read . and he didnt say the white people on the hill , in my opinion, without any violent or sarcastic tone . its weird if you perceive it that way . and i am hungarian white .
Tragic story but Owen was absolutely right about the irony. Christianity forced upon the people and it literally came back to haunt the descendants. Wow.
You misinterpreted that badly. How many times did the locals say that Christianity ended cannibalism and related violence on the island. That violence was still there, certainly in Apete, and despite all that his family had done for the country - especially the victim(s) themselves - that it would be used to destroy his descendant.
I am a Pacific Islander - although I have been reared in a more real world like 2020 - I was born in 1952 AND DO STILL REMEMBER AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE ISLANDS - OUR WAY OF LIFE WAS GOD-FAMILY-COMMUNITY- I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS INOCENT FIJIAN PERSON GROWING UP ONE WAY IN FAITH AND THEN WITNESSING THAT VERY VIOLATION BEING COMMITTED IN HIS VILLAGE AND HOME - THIS NATIVE FELT THAT HE HAD TO STOP THE EVIL OF THEIR ACTIONS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH - I FEEL MORE FOR FIJI THAN THE GUIDANCE THEY WERE BEING SHOWN BY THE OTHER PEOPLE - AS IN BRITAIN ETC. ETC. ETC.
@@undyne9667 maybe not you or to us but to him it did because that’s what he was taught. To Apete it was morally wrong and he had to do something about it!
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
I think the Indian lady was right.......MANY many of the fiji men are involved in behind closed doors affairs w one another.....but John and Greg were living out in the open......and that infuriated these people who Are doing it, yes, but trying to keep it secret......this behind closed doors behavior is happening all over the world. Not just on fiji.......I myself would NEVER go there on purpose. 😐
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
12 min in and I already feel sick with the amount of facts that are probably held back because they don't fit this storys narrative u can tell what's the Scott's are through and through just by where they are in the world at what time
History is unchangeable, our learning from history and our respect for one another , should be the way forward. Leave the hate behind, educate going forward✌️
@@thresagraham8181 they ruined our culture, not only Fijians but black people all over the world, so please don’t come out here talking about respect as if your people didn’t respect blacks back in the day and even still now!
@@onzz100 it's time to stop playing the victim card. looking forward is good advice. remaining in the past is part of the problem. accept that it's the way of the world and the way of human society. your people would have done the same to others, given the chance. but we can change that - IF you chose to look forward instead of living in the past. focus on solutions, not on problems.
@@yehbuddy1005 Fiji remains a backward country. It's a third world country that has been uplifted by the European settlers, then the Indians and from now, the Chinese. The natives only want to drink and fight.
He was Quilty 100% all the reasons about religion only excuses to kill the guys, I know what the bible says about been gay but it also gives you the right to make your own decisions, period 😡😡😡
Oh poor little rich kids “taunted” by their father . I sense a lot of racial undertones and I the Scott family are racist I feel sorry for the FIJI people
I agree with you on this once, they minimize their father's exploitation of Fijian women and "He was just one of the lads" really just obnoxious. Oh, but we were always taught to respect the people. Really?
Are you all blind? Being gay don’t make you racist they are telling a story about the past when racism was a thing. Many things happened back then . Theirs nothing wrong with those people. Even the elder of the Fiji people said the scouts were good people and kept good relations. The local people would have said they were racist if they were. Being gay and white don’t make you racist.
@@RedMoonsEcho The behavior of their father is disgusting. The father is not gay. The brother is glorifying their past in Fiji which under colonial rule discriminated against indigenous people. To be there with a paternal view of helping people who can help themselves is racist in an of itself
Bullshit..you own your choices..you make them..you walk that path. The minute your path interferes with another being..you’ve made a mistake. Your emotional baggage is not for the world to carry..evolve.
Thanks for the Missionary work! Yeh to Christianity!....... Great Result Did he not read? the message about; Only God can pass judgement. And; Thou shallt not Kill... Tragic Story*
Even if u don't agree with homosexuality every one has the right to live there life as they chose u can't go around killing or attacking people nobody out here is judge and jury ..
1:09:36 he is all drugged up. The way his body is slowed down and that glaring smile...MURDERER. He was poud of what he did, bragged about it and gets to stay high for the rest of his life....yup thats justice!!!
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
The choral voices are too loud for me, especiallywhen they're along with the narration.They distracted me while I was listening to the whole. Murder is a sin, period. If every murder done for personal religious belief is acceptable, there would be no terrorist murderers.
It's nothing to do with religion.. get your facts right.. the community knows what John did apete and many other young man, but I agree murder wasn't the path to take.. but who can mend a broken spirit, put yourself in APete's shoes.. what would you have done if you had found out that you had been drugged raped by someone who had been gifting you in the guise of charity for the past 5+years ??.
Similar story of my family that went to India in the 1800's as well. Family left and went to England. Same story. White mischief days etc. Have you read white moguls? We have a lot of mix but it was not spoken of until mid 80's.
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Was Apete insane? NO. He was as insane as many people walking around: they have a wrong concept of right or wrong and go around judging others when it's none of their business to do so. He knew what he was going to do - he planned it and he enjoyed it. Excusing himself in the words he underlined on a book. "The book" said that the blood would be on the head of the one's getting murdered. HOW CONVINIENT!!! Such a nice excuse to have... He was not insane. "You shouldn't not kill" - He knew this much! Maybe he was a hiden GAY... LORD! Isn't it convinent to blame one simple man for all that is going on with you and around you? Is so typical of cowards.
If you don't know the true story of John Scott... dont comment.. if you knew what that man did to apete and other young men then you probably understand how a man could kill another man...
What a beautifully executed documentary. Thank you for sharing John and Greg’s story. May they rest in peace.
You said executed..tee hee
@@jasonhanks8258 🤭
It is, but is's sad that justice was not served. Being gay was morally wrong to him, but not murder. Make it makes sense.
What a thought-provoking documentary conducted with respect, dignity, and tolerance. I, like most people, felt the outcome was appalling and unsatisfactory. Apete, should have served a very very long time in prison, the justice system has failed Scott's family. May Greg and John rest in peace.
I have never witnessed such a personal and tragic story provided with such honesty, sensitivity and tolerance , realizing the various indirect victims besides his brother and not making judgements on the circumstances of the various tragic acts. It seems that this brother lives the spirit of tolerance, care and making no judgement as his father was preaching them but not practicing them.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 Blaming the victim is nothing unusual, your efforts to do the same here are as tired and disgusting as the rest. It's all too common for monstrous internet trolls and homophobic corrupt politicians to make false accusations that so easily appeal to the hate and fear inside people, especially the feeble-minded, in order to deflect attention and responsibility from the actual perpetrators. The depths of chauvinism is boundless in its defense of evil.
@@jbdbean242 It's all to easy too to find nastiness going on within the circles of important people ;politicians, celebrities and the like, when people brave enough dig deep. When I heard the circumstances of the murder I couldn't help recall the revelations about so called charity workers, including the Red Cross, sexually exploiting youngsters who were victims of a natural disaster in Haiti. This is not blaming the victim, this is being alert to what people with power over others can do and how it can be covered up, sometimes for decades.
@@yanifree114 It is Apete
The hardest thing to do in life, is be ourselves. Sometimes, it can be dangerous.
This is surreal. What a documentary. Good job and sorry to the victims.
"Indigenous Fijians were generally comfortable with colonial rule"
says the white man.
I wonder if any indigenous Fijians who actually lived under colonial rule would have chosen that for themselves.
You are right, the Fijian people were cannibals then, they want that back...
@@NannupTiger Fijians weren't cannibals stupid! There was only chiefs who were cannibals. They only ate to embarrass their enemy. Any enemy killed was cooked as a reminder to the people and other enemies
You'd be surprised just how many people were cannibalistic throughout history, as @tas tiger says, there were other reasons for ingesting human flesh than the food aspect.
They sure chose the hotel though! 28:46 - and let the commies shamble it up ~ oy
@@tarzus7710 oh that makes it all right then.
Possibly Apete was a subconscious homosexual himself and unable to live with his feelings. Judgemental people often are that way because they're afraid that they themselves will be judged, so they sell themselves as being the opposite of how they feel inside. Shakespeare's "methinks thou protests too much" pretty much says it all.
Yes. Absolutely. And add dash of religious fervour. ✌️
reminds me of the Andrew Cunanan story.
Did you interview him.. did you know apete..?? Do you know what John Scott was doing behind close doors to young men.. if you don't know how news travels in fiji, then shut the fuk up
@@mosheshamuel1014 nasty person and troll
@Floyd1504 Right Cunanan wasn't religious. They weren't very much alike but it still reminds me of the other murders
Sad to hear even his friend saying "you know but he never brought that life into our life" as if they were friends with him but he couldn't be his true self. Sad. Very sad.
Nah just compartmentalized....I have friends that I'm very close too and consider my best friends and I'm a Christian.... they aren't and we have a lot of other things in common but I don't cast them away it dose make me a little sad, but I know people are all diffrent.
I'm so sorry the the 2 beautiful souls who were brutally murdered by a psychopath who used God and "so called morals" as an excuse to steal their last breath. This documentary was really well done.
That Two beautiful soul you speak of drug raped that psychopath... know your story before you start pointing the finger.
@@mosheshamuel1014 I know your story. Have a good day and try not to troll.
What a heartbreaking story......very well presented.
This was extremely heartbreaking to watch. I was just a kid when John and Greg died and was ignorant of the facts of this case. Today I just learnt where they were murdered. I go past it everyday on my way to work and didn't even know it....
He gets a plea of insanity, justice was not done here. What a brilliant documentary and one on UA-cam where you get a conclusion and not cut off. RIP John Scott and Greg.
This was very profound on so very many levels. Living in the U.S. a week or so after an attempted coup, my fascination with the colonials in spite of hating their hubris and exploitation of others, my growing disdain for the religion in which I was inculcated, and frustration with the hypocracy of those who think they have an absolute right to dictate how others live , this film documentary touched on all of these.
Your comment is insightful and profound, in its own way, if only we would all question the things we are taught from a young age, history is what it is, humanity and kindness and learning from society’s past mistakes, is what might lead us all on a path the loving understanding relationship that all human beings should share.....ideally 🌺🌸👍✌️
I read you comment and want to say you took the words out of my mouth and thank you.
@@thresagraham8181 I think you misspelled shallow, ignorant, and historically inaccurate.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Your comment does not reflect the documentary with the least bit of accuracy. Take off your biased glasses, check yourself, and watch it again. However, if you are unable in the least to critically assess that which is fed to you, perhaps the effort would just be a waste.
I almost ignored this documentary. Thank goodness I watched it. I highly recommend it, not that I liked the outcome, but it is truly a wonderful documentary, music and all.
Totally agree!! (so, glad I watched too!).
Sad but absolutely brilliant documentary. I learnt so much.
@Luna Goodhart So well stated: And my sentiments exactly 🙂👍❤
Couldn't say it better Luna
Hopefully the most prominent lesson was that of European (English in this case) enslavers superiority complex..
You may want to learnt how to use proper grammar. 😆😆😆
Luna learnt so much . I learned Luna can’t spell
I believe that justice was not served to John and Greg... Sad 😔😔😔
I learned many in this documentary, thanks.
Justice??... maybe you should know the real story before saying they deserve justice.. what goes around will come back around..
@@mosheshamuel1014 Hey it's the Fijian Troll. How you been man?
@@mosheshamuel1014 and you know the real story 😂😂😂
@@johnboys4697 what's the real story, racism and discrimination of by Fijian people got them killed
I really didn't expect this excellent documentary when I clicked on this. A good example of colonial missionary preaching and moralising coming back to bite you. Thanks a lot for uploading this , I learnt a lot. Btw an very worthy book which have many tales of the South Pacific in the colonial period is the Complete works of Jack London.
Whenever i came across those stories, it's irritated me, how those bastards invaded the world and charmingly belittle our ancestors, abusing their gratitude and oppressed them, divided the sub and take advantage over the native.
The Indian people is who your talking about right? The scouts didn’t bother nobody.
@@RedMoonsEcho relations are good between the itaukei and indian, its just these politicians and nationalists fucking the country.
You didn't actually watch this documentary did you. Pay attention. Your own vile blind hatred and propaganda filled brain has twisted your meager ability to think.
@@jbdbean242 Poor soul..u sound bitter yourself!!! But life goes on, kiddo.
Mickey Mann … sorry that you are ignorant. Should have stayed in school.
I am sorry but I had to laugh when the guy said " I though it was a fu*k buddy gone wrong". He just said it so casually like a fuc*k buddy gone wrong is a regular occurrence in that area.😆
Yeah, cracked me up too! I was like did he just say that?! 🤣🤣
I thought I’d heard it wrong to. I had to rewind it then had a good laugh
Hahaha...
And he is one of Fiji’s few Harvard Law graduates & a great one too though
OMG... I did the exact same thing... And turned the CC on 2 make sure I heard that right... Plus I did just have 1 beer... LMAO...😂😂😂
What an Excellent documentary!!!!
Thank you for sharing. Great documentary. Sad too.
Learned a few new things here. Tragic and very interesting at the same time. I hope the people of this beautiful island are living a better life without the enforced colonialism. Thank you for sharing.
He’s a murderer who should have been found guilty. John and Greg’s deaths were horrific. There is no excuse. Apete could get counseling behind a maximum security wall. 😢❤️🇺🇸
You know nothing about what this two were doing in fiji, and what they did to apete.. fiji is a small place, we know what happens in the community.. do some digging before you point the finger
@@mosheshamuel1014 Wow. Didn't know Fiji had trolls as well.
@@mosheshamuel1014 3rd world country and backwards
Fulp sicktion … said the troll
I.m only 15 minutes in and am so glad I decided to watch it , it's really interesting
Yes I'm only 12 minutes in and very glad I decided to watch.
So sad. Good documentary.Ty.
It’s obviously a premeditated murder and someone got away with murder. R.I.P John.
Hello feeq
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 That's what they will never dig deeper into.
Who are the ones that have been pushing religion on indigenous people, in every corner of the earth, since the beginning of time? These people didn't have any religions before they were colonized. Sons are the ones that will pay for the sins of their father.
Sounds like A quote from the bible.
You sound like an ignorant bigot.
Well said
That was a very tragic case on every level.....I don’t feel justice was done
This is awful I couldn’t hurt anyone no matter what they like in life their choice their life let them live it how they want to! Be part of helping keep people safe like the guy said look for what you have in common
The Fijian people have such gentle faces and are such out spoken people... I think I'd love to visit there some day
If this documentary is any representation it is a hate-filled xenophobic and homophobic country. Shame to see human hatred and corruption so prevalent in such a beautiful place.
@@jbdbean242 Come on mate each and every country has it's own flaws , it's not like every country is perfect . Besides it happened 2 decades ago and that's all in the past .
Thank You😊
Yeah..." Apete wouldn't hurt a fly"...unless, of course, the fly just happened to be gay.
Unless that fly drug raped him..
@@mosheshamuel1014 😅😉🤣
@@mosheshamuel1014 you know first hand???
So ridiculous to hear the narrator say that the Fijians were ok with colonial rule. Easy for a white person to say I guess.
Right? People are not generally happy to be colonized.
Colonization has a lot of benefits for the colony in question. They get technology, education and military protection from a more advanced culture (if the colonizer wasn't more advanced than the other country wouldn't have become their colony).
In material terms it makes complete sense that people would accept colonization. The reason people typically dispute colonial claims are for non-material reasons, typically philosophical or cultural in nature
@ChurchofCiiku - Racist drivel. Prior to colonialism was total conquer, annihilation and subjugation, such as Genghis Khan, the Ottoman Empire, and similar tribal warfare anywhere on the planet. Colonialism was no such thing, and allowed for some relative autonomy and symbiosis. Despite conflict and power struggles, it also was not a product of invasion, as were the previous examples given, and also the expansions by invasion of the more recent totalitarian Communist and fascist states of the USSR and (defeated) Nazis and Imperialist Japan.
Western narrative
Busting gizzard… lol. USA and uk are laughing stocks now boi
Phenomenal documentary. I definately understand Figi now. The Scott's had such a privileged and beautiful lifestyle. How interesting. ✌
44:59 IN that momment your life changes forever. It's like you have been BRANDED. Is like you have a mark on your skin in a secret place that very few people will ever see" - best definition of how a family is affected for the rest o their lives after having a loved one murdered.
Gay or not, it’s a human life. If you takes someone”s life, you gotta to pay the price. I guess he is gonna pray for God’s forgiveness after using God as scapegoat...
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 you don’t stop … did you know them???
@@yanifree114 such a wild accusation with no proof of evidence. Go to hell
This is the elephant in the room. This is why gay people must fight for their rights in court against the forces of religious evil. It amazes me that their were no psychiatrists allowed to speak in this doc. This is about shadow issues on the part of the killer. He kills the thing he wants but cannot accept. This is how religion is complicit in the murders. And the officials and police chief are guilty of protecting this pathetic man. I hope that all gay foreigners see this and boycott Fiji. As for gays living there, I pity you having to suffer such an evil society.
In the US it would have been considered a hate crime. I think in knowing the culture there, John was in danger living openly and he had to know that. Regardless, what a terrible thing.
The insanity plea is bullshit the murdered ones don’t get their life back so why should Apete be comfortable. Apete came back to Fuji to kill that couple and that what’s he did he knew what he did
Excellent documentary.
My heart goes out to all in this story
Because I am all in this story. Human
I have to say I don't like the way a lot of these white rich people are speaking about the fiji people . A lot of them still sound racist , sexist and elitist
They are so different - clash of value systems as much as anything.
Hannah, is that really a surprise? Colonizers always feel that way about the indigenous people.
@@ydcee3123 it's just shocking to still hear people speak like that in this day and age although the documentary does look pretty old
@@ydcee3123 Some barbaric practices have been stopped by colonisers - there are good sides. Occupation of foreign land is as old as history itself and helped develop healthy populations and minimise recessive genes.
All white people arent this way but I do find a lot of Europeans are still this way about everyone. People blame the USA for this shot when Europe was and still is the cause of most shot that’s ever gone wrong or happened in the world.
How can you ask for forgiveness if you don't regret anything?
Heart breaking document, lovers have rights
I wonder if Apete was angry at the couple because he felt they took advantage of him. Just a thought.
I think they did and discard him after, sad story!
Pure bs, your victim blaming for this horror is sickening. This was pure blind hatred with a mix of mental illness, he knew what he was doing. He was raised in a homophobic country and steeped in hatred for the Indian community, and when he saw John go to their aid in the violent coup he snapped. This was a vicious and brutal hate crime, and he was let off easy because of race, homophobia and celebrity, a popular local who was a big star athlete. It's a devastating but tired old story no matter what part of the planet you're on.
@@jbdbean242 keep lying to yourself
@@jbdbean242 Hear, hear.
@@jbdbean242 I’ve checked out a few of your comments to others. It appears to me that you are the one full of hatred and anger. You should seek help immediately, sir.
The murder is gay and he couldn't accept himself, therefore killed these people.
Well said !!
Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved.
Courts regularly fall for the plot of insanity.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Thanks for sharing
By the end of the documentary they given up on putting subtitles on the indigenan's. This fact was BODERING ME. WHY did someone choosed to subtitle only them when all of them talk in perfect english? The murderer's mother speaks perfectly clear. Then some brit would talk and you could barely undertand... but there was no subtitles.
True
The consequences of colonialism and the subjugation of sovereign nations by Christianity in the name of 'civilisation' are apparent here. There can be no doubt that every colonised nation in the world, if left to their own devices instead, would now be much better off. That being said, the murder of John Scott and Greg Scrivener is tragic, as are all atrocities committed in the name of 'God'.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil-that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg
One thing that was touched on, which should have been explored was the mention of other boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as a child by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apete would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's not uncommon for sexual predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming evangelical Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
Amazing that the idea of the “noble savage” continues to persist. To suggest that if those nations were left to their own devices they would be much better off today is arrant nonsense.
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@KaLeCaFe History does not reveal its alternatives, but the suggestion that nations are 'savage' without the 'civlising' efforts of colonial powers is extremely condescending.
@@yanifree114 This was implied as subtext, yes. Or perhaps inferred. Christianity is not blameless though.
I guess we'll never know how Fijians felt about homosexuality before Grandfather "Reverend" Scott came to christianize them....
Hahahah that’s sooo true
As a Christian myself in my own understanding of the bible. It's up to the creator of us all to judge us all & as for us all to continue loving and caring for one another.. we must all remember this one thing that when "GOD SENTS THE SUN AND THE RAIN " he doesn't send it upon normal people only he sents it upon everyone to all his creations...may those two R.I.P. and when the judgement day comes let God judge us all...
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 Where's your source on this claim that there was sexual abuse?
@@makearunat read the comments. Here’s one and perhaps you should watch again. “Such a remarkable documentary, narrated with such honesty, tolerance and without judgement. I say this because its difficult to ignore what the producers are clearly not telling you about the underlying motive for this dastardly crime. Legally, I think justice was not served to the two victims (RIP) and he should have been charged with premeditated murder. If motive had been the element for the crime of murder (which it is not) then I agree with the prosecutor that the verdict was overwhelmingly satisfactory. I applaud the producers, and particularly Owen, for courageously exploring all sides of this tragic story which has left me with the 'fuckbuddy gone wrong' scenario, and as such left me feeling compassionate towards Apete for the trauma he had tried to suppress but that was triggered when he watched the lone figure of John in his Red Cross vest and being lauded as an angel. Anyone who has understood someone struggling to survive a traumatic past of being groomed as an impressionable teenager for sex and idolizing your abuser and then being rejected will know what a volatile cocktail it stirs in someone once they realize the shame and guilt of what they allowed. Tragic outcome for all involved”
Evidently he missed the “ love one another as I have loved you” memo
"Rich white people who had a big house on the hill... " 😒
So they should be violently murdered. Finish the thought racist pos
@@pjhaze IKR!! I was repeating a quote from the documentary! It's awful.
What racist b***shi*!
hes a gay rights activist if you read . and he didnt say the white people on the hill , in my opinion, without any violent or sarcastic tone . its weird if you perceive it that way . and i am hungarian white .
So it be ok if they were rich black people who had rhe big house?
@@shaaddhillon3819 - more than likely - YES!
Brilliant doc thanks
What a amazing documentary
@z you are an idiot. Leave people alone all you have put on here is one and two letter words.
Tragic story but Owen was absolutely right about the irony. Christianity forced upon the people and it literally came back to haunt the descendants. Wow.
You misinterpreted that badly. How many times did the locals say that Christianity ended cannibalism and related violence on the island. That violence was still there, certainly in Apete, and despite all that his family had done for the country - especially the victim(s) themselves - that it would be used to destroy his descendant.
Isa thinking of you Mr & Mrs Kaisau in my prayers ❤
I am a Pacific Islander - although I have been reared in a more real world like 2020 - I was born in 1952 AND DO STILL REMEMBER
AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE ISLANDS - OUR WAY OF LIFE WAS GOD-FAMILY-COMMUNITY- I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THIS INOCENT FIJIAN PERSON GROWING UP ONE WAY IN FAITH AND THEN WITNESSING THAT VERY VIOLATION BEING COMMITTED
IN HIS VILLAGE AND HOME - THIS NATIVE FELT THAT HE HAD TO STOP THE EVIL OF THEIR ACTIONS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. TO TELL YOU THE
TRUTH - I FEEL MORE FOR FIJI THAN THE GUIDANCE THEY WERE BEING SHOWN BY THE OTHER PEOPLE - AS IN BRITAIN ETC. ETC. ETC.
That doesn't justify what he did, shame on you. Unbelievable lady.
@@undyne9667 maybe not you or to us but to him it did because that’s what he was taught. To Apete it was morally wrong and he had to do something about it!
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 😂
This is what happens when you give a Bible to a repressed gay
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 get a life
I think the Indian lady was right.......MANY many of the fiji men are involved in behind closed doors affairs w one another.....but John and Greg were living out in the open......and that infuriated these people who
Are doing it, yes, but trying to keep it secret......this behind closed doors behavior is happening all over the world. Not just on fiji.......I myself would NEVER go there on purpose. 😐
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 Spot on mate.
@@yanifree114No buddy. Native Fijians hate homosexuality. It is in their culture.
Wow this was so interesting my deepest condolences to the Scott family. This was a tragedy!
Very sad, killing is a great sin!! The other thing is that, whenever we go to other places, we must respect their culture all the time we are there.
I guess his lifestyle was viewed as disrespectful of their culture.
Apete is an animal, pure & simple.
Animals are not evil 😕
Animal? Get educated!!!! Animals have souls Humans don't!!
Please stop calling evil humans animals.
True !!
@@G-Star-Raw 😂🙄🙄🙄
35.28 surely that street name being shown at that time was no mistake lol 🤓
12 min in and I already feel sick with the amount of facts that are probably held back because they don't fit this storys narrative u can tell what's the Scott's are through and through just by where they are in the world at what time
Enlighten me pls @Dutton
@@chickstar69duplicity35 colonizers that abused the Fijian people
History is unchangeable, our learning from history and our respect for one another , should be the way forward. Leave the hate behind, educate going forward✌️
@@thresagraham8181 they ruined our culture, not only Fijians but black people all over the world, so please don’t come out here talking about respect as if your people didn’t respect blacks back in the day and even still now!
@@onzz100 it's time to stop playing the victim card. looking forward is good advice. remaining in the past is part of the problem. accept that it's the way of the world and the way of human society. your people would have done the same to others, given the chance. but we can change that - IF you chose to look forward instead of living in the past. focus on solutions, not on problems.
Great documentary and very sad. I didn’t realize Fiji was such a backwards country. Justice was not done in this case.
So here you are judging people by throwing a blanket over the whole of Fiji. You need to have a look in the mirror.
@@yehbuddy1005 Fiji remains a backward country. It's a third world country that has been uplifted by the European settlers, then the Indians and from now, the Chinese. The natives only want to drink and fight.
@@marcoemerson993 John deserved what he got. Period.
@@nuthinleicadane John deserved what he got?? You must be one sick bstd to say that
@@marcoemerson993 If you must know, John himself is a sick bastard. Hiding behind the veil of the Red Cross when he is in fact the devil's protege..
I don't agree with the life style, but it is not my place to judge anyone. Why wouldn't it be a double funeral, why not lay them to rest side by side?
He was Quilty 100% all the reasons about religion only excuses to kill the guys, I know what the bible says about been gay but it also gives you the right to make your own decisions, period 😡😡😡
Very sad outcome .Justice was not done at all .
Oh poor little rich kids “taunted” by their father . I sense a lot of racial undertones and I the Scott family are racist I feel sorry for the FIJI people
I agree with you on this once, they minimize their father's exploitation of Fijian women and "He was just one of the lads" really just obnoxious. Oh, but we were always taught to respect the people. Really?
Are you all blind? Being gay don’t make you racist they are telling a story about the past when racism was a thing. Many things happened back then . Theirs nothing wrong with those people. Even the elder of the Fiji people said the scouts were good people and kept good relations. The local people would have said they were racist if they were. Being gay and white don’t make you racist.
@@RedMoonsEcho The behavior of their father is disgusting. The father is not gay. The brother is glorifying their past in Fiji which under colonial rule discriminated against indigenous people. To be there with a paternal view of helping people who can help themselves is racist in an of itself
I think it was the family friend that said he was one of the lads NOT his son
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Apete could not tolerate seeing reflections of Himself!!!, being probably a latent homosexual!!
Agreed !
I enjoyed this documentary. Thanks
Bullshit..you own your choices..you make them..you walk that path. The minute your path interferes with another being..you’ve made a mistake. Your emotional baggage is not for the world to carry..evolve.
Thank you.
Thanks for the Missionary work! Yeh to Christianity!....... Great Result
Did he not read? the message about; Only God can pass judgement. And; Thou shallt not Kill... Tragic Story*
Sad. Each man is answerable for his deeds before God.
What’s the music at the beginning
I know I'm late but it's traditional song-singing from here!♡
Even if u don't agree with homosexuality every one has the right to live there life as they chose u can't go around killing or attacking people nobody out here is judge and jury ..
It’s very upsetting to watch rip to the 2 amazing souls shame on Fiji government and some of its people
This was very sad.
Had affairs … held in high esteem, one of the lads.
Oh how we all miss the misogynistic days 😹
1:09:36 he is all drugged up. The way his body is slowed down and that glaring smile...MURDERER. He was poud of what he did, bragged about it and gets to stay high for the rest of his life....yup thats justice!!!
One thing that was touched on, which needed to be clarified and explored, was the mention of boys, including Apeta, who may have been sexually exploited as children by John Scott. Then much of this makes sense...and why Apeta would destroy his life, give up his rugby career, after seeing him on the television talking about how others were looking under his shirt to see if he had wings.. Angel..? hmmmm. It's all too common for monstrous pedophile predators to go after native children. Money usually protects them. Blaming Christianity is nothing unusual..par for the course.
@@yanifree114 💩
The choral voices are too loud for me, especiallywhen they're along with the narration.They distracted me while I was listening to the whole. Murder is a sin, period. If every murder done for personal religious belief is acceptable, there would be no terrorist murderers.
It's nothing to do with religion.. get your facts right.. the community knows what John did apete and many other young man, but I agree murder wasn't the path to take.. but who can mend a broken spirit, put yourself in APete's shoes.. what would you have done if you had found out that you had been drugged raped by someone who had been gifting you in the guise of charity for the past 5+years ??.
Fiji was a paradise before brits came along and totally destroyed it.
And just what empire would be a better colonizer than Britain?
Oh I’m sure that was true 😂😂
@FijianNationalist🇫🇯 whats wrong wit dat?
@FijianNationalist🇫🇯 actually i was thinking before they took it over. But have it your way
Similar story of my family that went to India in the 1800's as well. Family left and went to England. Same story. White mischief days etc. Have you read white moguls? We have a lot of mix but it was not spoken of until mid 80's.
Sadly, we may never know why he killed …
IT was about sexuality. Nothing else.
Fijian History! Between the lines I learnt a lot. Very sad
So very sad.
When he said Fijians were comfortable with colonial rule. I knew bullshit.
Religious insanity, there a lot of it about.
I'm sorry, but I cannot watch your channel anymore. The fact that you are allowing youtube to put political ads that we cannot skip or block on your channel is not acceptable. Make youtube stop that practice and I will happily watch your channel again.
Sad
Was Apete insane? NO. He was as insane as many people walking around: they have a wrong concept of right or wrong and go around judging others when it's none of their business to do so. He knew what he was going to do - he planned it and he enjoyed it. Excusing himself in the words he underlined on a book. "The book" said that the blood would be on the head of the one's getting murdered. HOW CONVINIENT!!! Such a nice excuse to have...
He was not insane. "You shouldn't not kill" - He knew this much!
Maybe he was a hiden GAY...
LORD!
Isn't it convinent to blame one simple man for all that is going on with you and around you?
Is so typical of cowards.
If you don't know the true story of John Scott... dont comment.. if you knew what that man did to apete and other young men then you probably understand how a man could kill another man...
Fidji belongs to aboriginal fidjians , period
And America belongs to the American Indians.....so good luck
@@featherstone8093 hahaha
Well done!
I loved this documentary
Fabulous traditional music.