Unless it's been made, we need a mod for Fusion where the SA-X appears randomly, regardless of where you are. Like you enter a large room but instead of seeing enemies, you hear the SA-X's roaming theme and foot steps until you leave the room.
It would be worth looking into Metaquarius' Super Metroid X-Fusion project he's been working on for thr past several years now. The SA-X sequences in that look genuinely terrifying when you consider the "no more than 10 SA-X" dialogue at the end of Fusion. Random encounters would be an algorithmic _nightmare_ but I definitely agree, it would be amazing if that happened.
It’s oddly satisfying seeing that single shot plasma. Makes me think there could have been an option to switch between beam upgrades to see what they look like.
@@TheDarkkilla12 if I'm not mistaken, I remember reading somewhere that it actually was gonna have the ability to toggle Samus's abilities but it was cut.
My first time seeing one of these and I have some questions: I noticed some upgrades are in needed, what are the minimal upgrades needed to complete run? Are any (other) upgrades not randomized for story reasons (like missiles/ice beam)? What happens if you don't get morph ball in first few upgrades, does run end or are there clever work arounds?
Required upgrades are: Missiles, Morph Ball, Charge Beam, Bombs, Speed Booster, Gravity Suit, Hi-Jump Boots or Space Jump, Plasma Beam, Screw Attack or Diffusion Beam (to exit sector 4 after opening security level 4). And the SA-X Ice beam is not necessary, but it's an item you can pick up. The first check can have 3 different items. 1- Missiles: the seed is reasonably easy, as the morph ball will be almost vanilla. 2- Morph Ball: It's the seed with the hardest possible start, as the data missile can be anywhere, so you have to look for the data to use the common missles. 3- Speed Booster: you'll have to shinespark to access the sectors, nothing too difficult, but then morph and data missile will be a little hidden.
I wish I could see each of the variations of beams. I wonder if they would have different animations/sounds like in Zero Mission during sequence breaks. Oh well.
It would be way better if every power bomb tank would also unlock the power bomb to being useable to make the randomizer more explorable just like super metroid or zero mission, then again, this is how fusion works unfortunately
I skipped those Power bombs because 10 Power bombs are already needed for the entire game. And if I can't find Power Bomb Data I can't use Power bombs.
I was like, hah imagine not getting ice beam in the Omega Metroid boss, all the run would be for naugh. *Proceeds to not get it and kill it anyways". well I'll damn
@Metroid Gameplays Do you speak Spanish & Portuguese in real life? If not, kudos to you for extending the courtesy of responding to comments in the same language!
Seria legal uma fangame onde a sa-x fica livre pra andar onde quiser apartir da primeira cutscene que ela aparece, imagina só ela andando pelo mapa com vida propria parecido com os e.m.m.i.s do metroid dread
I mean the sprite for the suit is used. Fusion --> Varia is just a palette swap, and same for Gravity. You're seeing that exact sprite with the base suit palette. For the beams, I have no clue.
I assume you're talking about Randomizer. In the description of the video there is a link for you to download the program that makes the seeds of Randomizer.
Hey! I make The Legend of Zelda (NES version 8-bit) ROM hacks and would love to see you try to tackle one. They are tricky and challenging. Definitely will make you think at times. I can E-mail you one if you would be up for the challenge. I changed shops, dungeon locations, dungeon items, dungeon maps, outside world map, secrets and more. I would enjoy watching you play a blind play through it
@@Keith-k3m Oh, I've never played the original Zelda, playing a hack without having played the original first can't be a good experience. But you can send me a message on my Discord: metroid_gameplays
So normally in the game your beams stack and you can't get them out of order. So does this randomizer feature custom sprites for when you get beams by their selves when usually you wouldn't, or do those just exist in Fusion's code but go unused?
Yes, when you have wave beam but you're not wide beam, there's a sprite that doesn't normally show up (and trust me, wave in this game sucks. It doesn't add any more damage.)
@@metroidgameplays4656 So am I correct in assuming in Fusion's original code there's unused sprites for not only every beam in the game when you got them alone, but every possible combination as well?
Se puede jugar En Android el Metroid fusión directamente ya Randomizado? Me da curiosidad probar xd, Ví que todo el rollo es en PC pero no dispongo de una
The X Obey instincts and their instincts tells them to kill Metroids at all cost Over anything else (Samus in this case cuz she is part Metroid in DNA) and that why The Sa X helps Samus at the end cuz the bigger threat became the Omega medroid
you are either one of the luckiest people alive or planned this because no way would someone have skipped so many of the locations or found that few missiles, there's a shit load of those things
@@metroidgameplays4656 then you're one lucky person, sorry about the suspicion I just know from my experience with link to the past randomizers that skipping Any location can mean the difference of being able to do anything of importantce and being lost in a dungeon you're unprepared for, lots of crap found in the process as well so that luck is just astonishing
@@metroidgameplays4656 Since it’s my first time hearing about a randomizer for this game, that was the one question I was wondering through the whole video. But That fact alone actually makes me wanna try out the randomizer myself
![[TAS] Metroid: Zero Mission All Major Upgrades in 39:03 (25:17)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/58GFNm1vtBE/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] GBA Metroid Fusion "100%" by Reseren in 1:34:43.23](/img/n.gif)
Timestamps for Item Collection Order
00:01:24 / Missile Data
00:02:31 / Morph Ball & Plasma Beam
00:05:30 / Space Jump
00:06:22 / Super Missiles
00:07:44 / Charge Beam
00:09:01 / Bomb Data
00:10:13 / Wave Beam
00:13:10 / Gravity Suit
00:17:08 / Varia Suit
00:20:50 / Hi-Jump
00:24:48 / Wide Beam
00:28:21 / Speed Booster
00:30:49 / Diffusion Missiles
00:35:59 / GO Mode!!
Thanks
Unless it's been made, we need a mod for Fusion where the SA-X appears randomly, regardless of where you are. Like you enter a large room but instead of seeing enemies, you hear the SA-X's roaming theme and foot steps until you leave the room.
my anxiety would be so high constantly
It would be interesting, but it would be very frightening
That'd truly be dreadful
It would be worth looking into Metaquarius' Super Metroid X-Fusion project he's been working on for thr past several years now. The SA-X sequences in that look genuinely terrifying when you consider the "no more than 10 SA-X" dialogue at the end of Fusion. Random encounters would be an algorithmic _nightmare_ but I definitely agree, it would be amazing if that happened.
That would be scary as hell.
Like Mr. X in the RE2 Remake.
That single Plasma Beam is wonderful.
It’s oddly satisfying seeing that single shot plasma. Makes me think there could have been an option to switch between beam upgrades to see what they look like.
@@TheDarkkilla12 I wish that the paych from Zero Mission to toggle was compatible with Fusion, especially the JP Ver. of the game.
@@TheDarkkilla12 if I'm not mistaken, I remember reading somewhere that it actually was gonna have the ability to toggle Samus's abilities but it was cut.
@@justRICHTOFEN why?
@@TheDarkkilla12 that was an option if you hit select and r it brings you to samas' suit upgrades and you can turn off what upgrades you didnt want on
Samus: I defeated the monster. What prize do I get for such mass destruction?
Randomised game: get a fkng energy tank/missile tank and *screw* off
To think you would have missed power beam without that hidden wall
Sorry, which wall?
@@metroidgameplays4656 oh the wall before first boss
*plasma beam
That luck in this run early is bruh
Definitely.
I would have died probably 9 thousand times
I tried this a few weeks ago right before Dread launched. Man, I was NOT ready for some of these item spots.
My first time seeing one of these and I have some questions:
I noticed some upgrades are in needed, what are the minimal upgrades needed to complete run?
Are any (other) upgrades not randomized for story reasons (like missiles/ice beam)?
What happens if you don't get morph ball in first few upgrades, does run end or are there clever work arounds?
Required upgrades are: Missiles, Morph Ball, Charge Beam, Bombs, Speed Booster, Gravity Suit, Hi-Jump Boots or Space Jump, Plasma Beam, Screw Attack or Diffusion Beam (to exit sector 4 after opening security level 4). And the SA-X Ice beam is not necessary, but it's an item you can pick up.
The first check can have 3 different items.
1- Missiles: the seed is reasonably easy, as the morph ball will be almost vanilla.
2- Morph Ball: It's the seed with the hardest possible start, as the data missile can be anywhere, so you have to look for the data to use the common missles.
3- Speed Booster: you'll have to shinespark to access the sectors, nothing too difficult, but then morph and data missile will be a little hidden.
Dios demasiado tanque de vida al inicio eso es tener suerte
Sí, incluso siendo una semilla lv5 tuve suerte de que los elementos estuvieran al comienzo del juego.
great speedrun, electrifying from start to finish.
the fact that you already have almost all majors in secter 2
I wish I could see each of the variations of beams.
I wonder if they would have different animations/sounds like in Zero Mission during sequence breaks.
Oh well.
It would be way better if every power bomb tank would also unlock the power bomb to being useable to make the randomizer more explorable just like super metroid or zero mission, then again, this is how fusion works unfortunately
I don't think so, it's more interesting for you to find the Data Power Bomb for you to start using Power bombs
@@metroidgameplays4656 is there any way to play this as a gba rom?
You have to download the program that randomizes the items to generate the seed. And then pass the generated seed to a GBA with SD card.
Dunno, but that Plasma/Wave beam combo looks weird without the Wide beam.
Yes, that's why in metroid Fusion the wide beam/spazer is more useful than in super metroid.
14:20 why did you skip power bombs?
Also why did you start with power bombs
So many questions…
I skipped those Power bombs because 10 Power bombs are already needed for the entire game. And if I can't find Power Bomb Data I can't use Power bombs.
@@metroidgameplays4656 so it's like how in Dread where power bomb expansions don't work until you find the actual upgrade?
@@Chernobog2 Exactly, you need to unlock power bombs before you can use the expansions.
Animals saved.
I was like, hah imagine not getting ice beam in the Omega Metroid boss, all the run would be for naugh. *Proceeds to not get it and kill it anyways". well I'll damn
Plasma beam at game start is insane luck
@Metroid Gameplays Do you speak Spanish & Portuguese in real life? If not, kudos to you for extending the courtesy of responding to comments in the same language!
I speak Portuguese in real life, I'm Brazilian, and learning English :D
Seria legal uma fangame onde a sa-x fica livre pra andar onde quiser apartir da primeira cutscene que ela aparece, imagina só ela andando pelo mapa com vida propria parecido com os e.m.m.i.s do metroid dread
Seria interessante, mas daria um cagaço kkkkk
They programmed a Wave Beam without Wide Beam
They made a sprite of the Fusion Suit Space Jumping
Why isn't this stuff in-game?
I mean the sprite for the suit is used. Fusion --> Varia is just a palette swap, and same for Gravity. You're seeing that exact sprite with the base suit palette.
For the beams, I have no clue.
Random question: what does the "lvl" mean before setting up the randomizer?
I've only been playing in lv2 vause idk what is added/expected at higher
the lvl of a Seed is how scattered the items will be, that is, having to go deeper into the sectors.
Where can I find this version of Metroid fusion because I want it
I assume you're talking about Randomizer. In the description of the video there is a link for you to download the program that makes the seeds of Randomizer.
@@metroidgameplays4656 I’m guessing you download the rom then use it
Puedes poner el link del randomizer??
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/yhyyc1vj7t5s6lp/MFOR%200.9.7%20win.zip?dl=0
Hey! I make The Legend of Zelda (NES version 8-bit) ROM hacks and would love to see you try to tackle one. They are tricky and challenging. Definitely will make you think at times. I can E-mail you one if you would be up for the challenge. I changed shops, dungeon locations, dungeon items, dungeon maps, outside world map, secrets and more. I would enjoy watching you play a blind play through it
@@Keith-k3m Oh, I've never played the original Zelda, playing a hack without having played the original first can't be a good experience. But you can send me a message on my Discord: metroid_gameplays
What does sgpt stand for?
Dream secretly did this speedrun
😐
got the strongest beam before 1st bot i say: GGG lol
lol
Wish there was a GBA rom randomizer of it and not only for PC...
Unfortunately, it is unfeasible, due to limitations of the GBA itself.
So normally in the game your beams stack and you can't get them out of order. So does this randomizer feature custom sprites for when you get beams by their selves when usually you wouldn't, or do those just exist in Fusion's code but go unused?
Yes, when you have wave beam but you're not wide beam, there's a sprite that doesn't normally show up (and trust me, wave in this game sucks. It doesn't add any more damage.)
@@metroidgameplays4656 So am I correct in assuming in Fusion's original code there's unused sprites for not only every beam in the game when you got them alone, but every possible combination as well?
@@charleschamp9826There are sprites yes, it's just not possible to see them because we can't turn Samus upgrades on or off.
Se puede jugar En Android el Metroid fusión directamente ya Randomizado? Me da curiosidad probar xd, Ví que todo el rollo es en PC pero no dispongo de una
Es posible jugar, pero para crear el aleatorizador de semillas tiene que estar en la PC.
Why did they ignore the powerbomb in sector 2?
Power bombs are not that useful, 10 Power bombs are enough
I don’t understand why didn’t the X go on the ship and take over Earth ??
The X Obey instincts and their instincts tells them to kill Metroids at all cost Over anything else (Samus in this case cuz she is part Metroid in DNA) and that why The Sa X helps Samus at the end cuz the bigger threat became the Omega medroid
Yo why is this such high quality?
because I use the bizhawk emulator and broadcast at 1080p60fps.
So I downloaded this, and for some reason it doesnt work for me? am I missing something here?
You need to load the original rom
@@metroidgameplays4656 I did that. It says game is generated but then nothing?
@@MrJmccardle then you get the randomized rom from the seeds folder and play it with a gba emulator
how i get that item show when u get missile data, the image show in color the misile ?
I think you're talking about Emotracker, right?
@@metroidgameplays4656 I think so, it is that image that is removed from the game. What's it called? Obviously if you can give me the name
Que emulador usas amigou?
Uso o bizhawk
No hay version para android
Incluso puedes jugar en Android, necesitas el emulador + la ROM.
@@metroidgameplays4656 me pasas el link
@@lanzaboys916 Puedes encontrar el emulador en Play Store.
@@metroidgameplays4656 como se llama el emulador y me puedes pasar el link del juego qur no me da en el emulador que tengo
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fastemulator.gbafree
you are either one of the luckiest people alive or planned this because no way would someone have skipped so many of the locations or found that few missiles, there's a shit load of those things
It was luck, it was a Race so, you couldn't know where the items were, otherwise it would be cheating.
@@metroidgameplays4656 then you're one lucky person, sorry about the suspicion I just know from my experience with link to the past randomizers that skipping Any location can mean the difference of being able to do anything of importantce and being lost in a dungeon you're unprepared for, lots of crap found in the process as well so that luck is just astonishing
Oh no problem, if I hadn't found anything in the places I went, I would obviously have checked them all (even if I don't remember them all)
Are the beams custom or can the game already handle them?
They’re custom, uniquely to this randomizer.
The rom?
I just want an SA-X mod with X-ray visor and speed booster, I know someone did it but I haven’t seen anything truly come to light
Well, to create a fan game, Nintendo has to stop interrupting fan projects, who knows, maybe one day something like AM2R will come out.
@@metroidgameplays4656 it’s been out for a while with updates and all that
Question: does this work like a rom hack than needs to be patched or an application than generates roms
works with an application that I left in the description of the video to download.
Who is running and is this full or Major/minor?
Second question answered: Full.
I forgot how ugly wave beam is in this game
Wave sucks.
When you get wave only it's the worst
Which difficulty level was that? 1?
I don't remember for sure, but it must have been lv5.
What is the randomizer seed?
Seed Randomizer is a rom with items shuffled with logic.
Wait so, you don’t have to follow the story in randomizer?
no, because in Randomizer, all events before the final sa-x have been removed.
@@metroidgameplays4656 Since it’s my first time hearing about a randomizer for this game, that was the one question I was wondering through the whole video.
But That fact alone actually makes me wanna try out the randomizer myself
@@sirmidnight2039 Nice bro, in the description I left the link to download, enjoy :D
The map looks weird with some story flags already changing the environment (cyo thawed), but others not (aqa water levels).