The info. On this video states this is a 722 ft long 43.3 diameter high density polyethylene fused pipe. And pulling of the pipe back through the trench took only 2hrs. The drilling , I would think took half a day maybe longer. Impressive, would love to own this equipment. Thanks
Why just today.. I was chatting with the landscaper, and he said the lawn irrigation line went under the driveway, and would be impossible to replace without digging it up... I said, no, I have seen gas lines pushed thru places... He said bad words.
Either your landscaper don’t know $h!t about pipelines or he’s totally dishonest and you should get yourself a new landscaper... honestly either way you should probably get yourself a new landscaper.... seriously.
А где-то иначе? Я вот не видел ни разу, чтоб штанги руками пердолили, обычно штабель тут же рядом с машиной укладывается автоматом. Единственное что меня улыбнуло, так рабочий с чинариком в зубах моет из шланга штанги. Все как у нас, и бурильщик поди в шлепанцах.))) Да, и колеса авто при выезде на дороги со стрйплощадки, у нас уже давно и почти везде моют. Ибо пи..дюков можно выхватить на раз два.
As a utility locator my only question is how the hell would I locate this pipe? I didn’t see and tracer wire on the pull back. Great Video super impressive.
Utility locators don't locate sewers you usually get with the city and they could've drilled it with mapping/ an azbuilt and turned the profile into the city after surveying the numbers in
I love it! My crew is doing this tonight, only with 300’ of 8” HDPE. We subcontract the boring/pipe pulling. I’ve never seen it done. And our start/finish “trenches are 15’ deep (at least) and 20’ long, with shoring boxes in them. I’m curious how they can bore so accurately (gravity fed sewer line) and how they’ll pull the pipe through given the depth and shortness of the trenches. Company working from 9pm to 5 am since this job is on a busy highway and a lane must be closed. I have to cover the other work we do during the day, which is why I’m not there. Dammit I’m curious.
@@spidermight8054 I do horizontal drilling what company are you because I drill in all of Southern California also you have a very big pit honestly and the ground is good in some parts to be very precise with depths
In my city, they usually just open up the road. There's rock outcropping all over the place, it's typical to have a rock hammer laying around on construction sites. Recently, they needed to have a pair of pipes go under an active railway. Bedrock at that location is quite literally right under the asphalt. They dug a pit, set a horizontal drilling rig and pushed a steel pipe with tooth straight through the rock.
Not really. Thicker wall thickness because of the bead but that also creates the weak point. The pipe will break right next to the weld. Any miss alignment in the weld and varying wall thicknesses between pipes also de rates the weld slightly.
curious how they had a tunnel hole going thru there beforehand; I suppose they bored the hole thru with a small rod and increased the diameter with larger bits.
In the UK we could of done this in twice the time, 3 times the cost and with a complete shutdown of all local roads and massive inconvenience to anyone who lives and works there THEN Just for a laugh we would do it again as someone didn't have the correct form filled in
How do you go through an alluvial material with rock bolts? Is it possible? What parameters do you need from the soil study? ¿Cómo se atraviesan un material aluvial con bolos de roca ?, ¿es posible? ¿Qué parámetros necesitan del estudio de suelos?
this is clearly a pump fed line, any directional bore is either forced or water main due to the drills dependency on riding the rock or bouncing off large infractions
I am very happy with this job.. I have worked for 10 years in this horizontal directional drilling hdd drilling company.. I am a general worker.. I really understand what I have to do when I work... from starting to prepare things, to complete equipment work work, and so on.. i really hope you put me in your company for work sir i used to work in malaysia 10 years in this machine work my name is irvan from indonesia i migrated to malaysia this project work 11 years and 10 years working in the field this pipe machine,,, sir, I work in your company, thank you very much
It’s easy your bore shot starts at the deepest level and then gradually goes up like 2% maybe even 4% the whole way until you meet up at the exit pit beat way to do it is make your entry pit 2 feet deeper than your exit pit
Hi, Thanks for sharing video. I want to know how sewer will flow through the HDPE pipe? 1. Gravitational flow (sewer flow as a result of difference between height) 2. Pressurized flow (by pumps as a result of pressure differece) Regards
Hi, thanks for watching. To answer your question ... I believe there's just one. I was just an observer with a camera :) The best way I can serve you right now is to refer to the contractor if you want to know further details: www.vanvulpen.eu/nl/nl/1/home.aspx
In South Africa this would have taken 10years ,1000 construction workers and then 20 government officials would have earned BMWs from it. And it would leak probably.
Big bucks my guess is at least a few mill (in USD).... I mean it’s 722 ft of 3.6ft diameter pipeline installed with trenchless technology. (Looks like pressure rated pipe to me too)
Honestly you’d want to hire a good Consulting Firm to estimate/calculate job pricing for you on a project this size in advance... Somebody like Bryan Hauger Consulting in the USA can provide those kinds of answers and set up these kinds of jobs.
I can't speak for Holland but certainly a lot of places we dig in the UK having no teeth is less to do with ground conditions and more to do with what might be buried in the ground. Old cities, old towns, all without any real services drawings make for unpleasant digging.
Can't help but wonder, if it would have given lots of locals work, have been a lot less polluting to have dug it out and laid pipes by hand... All that machinery for 200 metres...??
wouldnt it have just been easier to just excavate the area, drop the pipe in then cover? seems like an awful lot of extra steps to save a little time. there wasnt a road or concrete above where the pipe was laid
So, it wasn’t delivered as a roll... it would have been delivered in sections to the site and then those sections would have been fused together onsite (prior to this video) you can see one of the fusions at 0:43
There is such a thing as HDPE pipe that comes in rolls but max diameter for that is usually about 4” to 6”... what we see here is over 3ft (1100mm) in diameter.
Directional Boring is the future! It even has its own holiday. Digs not having to dig 750 foot trench, not cutting down shitload of trees and otherwise permanently ruining surrounding soil structure along both sides of massive Trench site that no doubt would have been refilled in with worthless clay and construction debris.
Anything is possible if your budget is big enough. Tunnel Boring machines can cut through granite mountains and pipelines made with this technology can be many miles (kilometers) long.
Not ripping up 722 feet of the city above it.... or going under 722 feet of lake or river or roads or railroads or some combination of the above... you get the idea.
В России в 2000 году, в Астраханской области был построен переход под р. Волга, длиной L=1450 метров! Диаметром трубопровода 1100 мм. Выполнила эту работу фирма Fernleitungs und Anlagenbau из Германии. .
Вчера оборвались цепи сразу после расширителя.,тянули две трубы на 250 и оставалась всего одна штанга до финишного приямка.10 мая экскаватором выкопаем и достанем.Ничего страшного нет.Не дотянули 4 метра.Бывает и похуже.
Probably the best directional boring video I have seen, and it is big pipe to boot!
I didn’t even know that sort of thing was possible, mind blown!
The info. On this video states this is a 722 ft long 43.3 diameter high density polyethylene fused pipe. And pulling of the pipe back through the trench took only 2hrs. The drilling , I would think took half a day maybe longer. Impressive, would love to own this equipment. Thanks
Drilling takes a bit longer, a series of smaller rheemers were pulled first , scaling up to meet the 44” pipe size
We have a requirement for this, to pull 800mm sdr21 pe100 gas main. Any suggestions about who could carryout this work for us
Many Thanks
Does lateral compression of the soil ever jeopardize road surfaces or adjacent underground utilities?
Why just today.. I was chatting with the landscaper, and he said the lawn irrigation line went under the driveway, and would be impossible to replace without digging it up...
I said, no, I have seen gas lines pushed thru places...
He said bad words.
Either your landscaper don’t know $h!t about pipelines or he’s totally dishonest and you should get yourself a new landscaper... honestly either way you should probably get yourself a new landscaper.... seriously.
Was there a bouncy pipe? We are dragging a 36” through 3500’ of HDD for over a year now
Cool, didn’t know they bored and pulled back on pipe this big. Only ever seen this done for a couple of 4” comm ducts or gas pipes. Great vid.
@ 3:48, I'm glad to see they protect their tree's. Here in the states they would have cleared a 300' wide swath on either side to pull that pipe in.
No we wouldn't have. Just factually we wouldn't destroy that much tree for temporary work space cause we'd be required to fix it.
And also I was litterally just on a job were we pulled a pipe and had to set up plywood to protect the trees.
Truth be told... it totally depends on the location.
Вот сразу видно все как у людей , есть чем помыть , кран стоит и штанги руками снимать не надо , ПРОСТО БРАВО !!!!!
А где-то иначе? Я вот не видел ни разу, чтоб штанги руками пердолили, обычно штабель тут же рядом с машиной укладывается автоматом. Единственное что меня улыбнуло, так рабочий с чинариком в зубах моет из шланга штанги. Все как у нас, и бурильщик поди в шлепанцах.))) Да, и колеса авто при выезде на дороги со стрйплощадки, у нас уже давно и почти везде моют. Ибо пи..дюков можно выхватить на раз два.
As a utility locator my only question is how the hell would I locate this pipe? I didn’t see and tracer wire on the pull back. Great Video super impressive.
Put some green along the road and clear the ticket lol
Sewers usually aren't located
Utility locators don't locate sewers you usually get with the city and they could've drilled it with mapping/ an azbuilt and turned the profile into the city after surveying the numbers in
It will get located by a digger one day! And ther will be human waste pumped high into the air!
It should be logged in the council plans giving the exact depths and locations using the modern tech of gps ( an engineer with a trimble )
Bravo! There were some smart folks involved in this project! Whew!! We owe you a beer just for getting to watch!! LOL
I love it! My crew is doing this tonight, only with 300’ of 8” HDPE. We subcontract the boring/pipe pulling. I’ve never seen it done. And our start/finish “trenches are 15’ deep (at least) and 20’ long, with shoring boxes in them. I’m curious how they can bore so accurately (gravity fed sewer line) and how they’ll pull the pipe through given the depth and shortness of the trenches. Company working from 9pm to 5 am since this job is on a busy highway and a lane must be closed. I have to cover the other work we do during the day, which is why I’m not there. Dammit I’m curious.
This became a pretty common thing here, there's no bedrock in my country so that makes it easier. Where are you at?
@@BBQHoorn Southern California.
@@spidermight8054 I do horizontal drilling what company are you because I drill in all of Southern California also you have a very big pit honestly and the ground is good in some parts to be very precise with depths
A little explanation would have been nice. I assume they borrowed some tech. from the Oil Industry - as in a horizontal drilling rig.
I would be interested to know how they check the grade before they pull the pipe though.
vanvulpen.eu/
In my city, they usually just open up the road. There's rock outcropping all over the place, it's typical to have a rock hammer laying around on construction sites. Recently, they needed to have a pair of pipes go under an active railway. Bedrock at that location is quite literally right under the asphalt. They dug a pit, set a horizontal drilling rig and pushed a steel pipe with tooth straight through the rock.
Pipe is butt fused and done with directinal drilling. Done it many times in the uk.
I've seen this done on a much smaller scale (smaller pipe) running a new sewer pipe into someone's house. Kinda interesting.
so apparently the fusion joints are stronger than the rest of the pipe.
ObsessionPC yes they are you will pull the pipe apart before you break a weld
ObsessionPC this is true I use to fuse pipe
Hydraulic Fusion for that pipe 👍
Not really. Thicker wall thickness because of the bead but that also creates the weak point. The pipe will break right next to the weld. Any miss alignment in the weld and varying wall thicknesses between pipes also de rates the weld slightly.
4:59 how do I get that job?
curious how they had a tunnel hole going thru there beforehand; I suppose they bored the hole thru with a small rod and increased the diameter with larger bits.
Directional drilling to make the hole, then remove the drill, attach the puller head, Hook up the pipe, video shows the rest
Couldn`t they have done that on the Channel Tunnel? With a wider pipe of course, :-)
In the UK we could of done this in twice the time, 3 times the cost and with a complete shutdown of all local roads and massive inconvenience to anyone who lives and works there
THEN
Just for a laugh we would do it again as someone didn't have the correct form filled in
thinfourth still quicker than Australia... 😉
Right, and you guys still can't seem to learn how to drive on the *RIGHT* side of the road!!
Proud to be an American where we would fuck it up the same way. :D
canadian cities are under road construction all summer every summer. something we get used to
pfft... in spain we would do it for 10 times the time and 50 times the cost.
How do you go through an alluvial material with rock bolts? Is it possible?
What parameters do you need from the soil study?
¿Cómo se atraviesan un material aluvial con bolos de roca ?, ¿es posible?
¿Qué parámetros necesitan del estudio de suelos?
How big was the pilot hole for the 36 in pipe? 6 inch?
How much day for install that pipes?
Compares to traditional method.
within 1 day
Very good ! How do you de-water or keep the pipe from floating ?
And bentoniet
this is clearly a pump fed line, any directional bore is either forced or water main due to the drills dependency on riding the rock or bouncing off large infractions
like it, just wondered if the pipe was tested before thay put it in.
sure, otherwise it would be a waste of time and money.
HDPE had been used for decades in this application and best of all it's all fused into one pipe so no leaks.
should hae at least shown the drill end coming out of the ground instead of hole just appearing
I am very happy with this job.. I have worked for 10 years in this horizontal directional drilling hdd drilling company.. I am a general worker.. I really understand what I have to do when I work... from starting to prepare things, to complete equipment work work, and so on.. i really hope you put me in your company for work sir i used to work in malaysia 10 years in this machine work my name is irvan from indonesia i migrated to malaysia this project work 11 years and 10 years working in the field this pipe machine,,, sir, I work in your company, thank you very much
Sou Brasileiro e sou operador de navigator, tenho 8 anos de experiência. Tem uma vaga na empresa de operador de máquinas?
My only question is I’d like to see how they planned it to keep grade on the gravity sewer this is amazing to watch
It aint gravity. The contents are moved using high pressure pumphouses. Thanks for watching and asking.
It’s easy your bore shot starts at the deepest level and then gradually goes up like 2% maybe even 4% the whole way until you meet up at the exit pit beat way to do it is make your entry pit 2 feet deeper than your exit pit
а у нас бы перекопали просто пол города и всё :)
У нас именно так и сделали
У нас так все лето делают, могут и свежий асфальт перерыть
@@Slavaros1 зато все работают =)
они просто не шарят что на этом можно зарабатывать))
Установка Горизонтального Направленного Бурения стоит денег причём не маленьких(её купить нужно прежде чем ты начнёшь зарабатывать)
Who is else watching this in 2020 😅😅
I'm watching it in 2010. want tomorrow's lottery numbers?
not me
Fun Is Here me
Watching it in 2021.
@@kebo57 Me too :) - 2021
Do you not have to de-water before insertion?
Вот как надо работать, даже деревья огородили чтоб не повредить, а у нас бы выпилели (мешают).
So what happens after?
Thanks for taking the time to convert.
I honestly had no idea it was that big of a gap.
Could have made it twenty feet longer so the welds on each end don't have to be done in the mud
Curtis Warner , What welds ? It's plastic pipe HDPE.
Time and money
Do you ha e a video of the fusion machine used for this size pipe?
This may not be the exact machine they used on this project... but this one would do it... ua-cam.com/video/xIhORaa7v8s/v-deo.html
Ich habe von dieser Technik gehört , habe es aber noch nie gesehen , die eigentlich frage ist aber wie die dass Zugseil da durch bekommen.
vanvulpen.eu/
I'm a HDPE pipe welder. I have 3 certificate now I'm work in UAE I proud of my work🥰
Hi imran, that's good to know. I work as project engineer in HDPE piping projects in mumbai
Are pipe levels controlled؟
Brilliant engineering - preserving the streetscape and reducing traffic disruption. 😃👌👌👏👏👏
You're right about that but you're never going to win people get upset with 10 seconds hold up may as well dig a dam and fill it back in with the pipe
😎
Favor enviar informacion tecnica , certificacion , personal de contacto
Is that pipe or tube ?
Hi,
Thanks for sharing video.
I want to know how sewer will flow through the HDPE pipe?
1. Gravitational flow (sewer flow as a result of difference between height)
2. Pressurized flow (by pumps as a result of pressure differece)
Regards
+Zaman HASANOV #2, pumps.
How many pumps are there actually? How many are necessary for let's say 1 kilometer?
Hi, thanks for watching. To answer your question ... I believe there's just one. I was just an observer with a camera :) The best way I can serve you right now is to refer to the contractor if you want to know further details: www.vanvulpen.eu/nl/nl/1/home.aspx
BbqHoorn thank you! take care
Szr7zMix5kcV6F3 if it's taco Tuesday its all of them including backup mobile pumps!
What if the connection breaks when it’s underground?
That ain't gonna happen.
Wait !
Super stunt weeend ?????
Whats that ?
These are the people who make your life better, not the goverment
These Infrastructural techniques are funded by the Dutch Goverment.
In South Africa this would have taken 10years ,1000 construction workers and then 20 government officials would have earned BMWs from it. And it would leak probably.
How much does the guy smoking cigs and spraying water on drill pipe make?
He looked thrilled to be there!
I guess about 2500...3000 Euro a month. Average Dutch salary in construction when working for a boss.
What was the price tag on this massive job?
No idea
Big bucks my guess is at least a few mill (in USD).... I mean it’s 722 ft of 3.6ft diameter pipeline installed with trenchless technology. (Looks like pressure rated pipe to me too)
Honestly you’d want to hire a good Consulting Firm to estimate/calculate job pricing for you on a project this size in advance... Somebody like Bryan Hauger Consulting in the USA can provide those kinds of answers and set up these kinds of jobs.
I want join this job
where I live on vancouver island our excavators dont leave home without toothbucket. Netherlands have sandy silty soil that is easy to manipulate..
I can't speak for Holland but certainly a lot of places we dig in the UK having no teeth is less to do with ground conditions and more to do with what might be buried in the ground. Old cities, old towns, all without any real services drawings make for unpleasant digging.
Now that is some massive power.
I always laughed about the ground rollers when ur pulling the pipe thru the ground!!
Courtney Shoemaker keeps from tearing up the grass/sidewalk/anything on the surface
@@mjdegn and damaging the pipe! the pipe in the hole is being lubricated by the slurry mix!
Any reduction in drag you can get is good.... especially when pulling miles of pipe.
Is also necessary to not bend the pipe permanently.
wow amazing. Pipe bursting in action! 700+ pipe , wow. I'd assume these come in sections and you fuse them on site?
I have done a 4" bore job with hdpe. But I have fused up 24" dia. pipe for a casing pipe bore job and have done 8" and 10" break in place.
LET ME GUESS - HDPE - HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE?
yep
Correct
Who knows how much does this machine cost?
What are those buoy looking things attached to the pipe?
The Notorious GHOST BL/_\DE pull heads
Sideloading the excavotor like that to try to help move the pipe is hack work not to mention tears up the machine. Get sideboom cats for that job.
I see they waited for it to get wet before they started... what gentlemen!
I deal with those kind pipe hea on Kauai Hi we fuse 1” -36” inch pipe
Eric Schiffer there's a big stack by the mill in Kekaha. I'm from Eleele
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person
The clevis bolts don’t look so good @ 1:45
The
Can't help but wonder, if it would have given lots of locals work, have been a lot less polluting to have dug it out and laid pipes by hand... All that machinery for 200 metres...??
Because it goes under a very very busy highway that can't be shut/closed.
that's about the setup i had to get my 3 phase to my spa thru all those 90s
wouldnt it have just been easier to just excavate the area, drop the pipe in then cover? seems like an awful lot of extra steps to save a little time. there wasnt a road or concrete above where the pipe was laid
This is the location. goo.gl/maps/jiKPLRkn95v
It crosses a railroad. You must pass railroads in The Netherlands at a miniumum depth of 10 meters.
@5:25 you can see they're clearly going directly under a road.
abialo2010
@@s0012823 yes , here i. US is about 25 ft under the railroad
What's that sorcery!!!
Back in the 70’s when i was doing this, we would hand pull that in.
Back in the 60's when i was doing this we would use our beards to pull it, uphill, in the snow.
Back in the 40’s we had slaves pull it for us
Cartels of el chapo need This tool
🤫🤦♂️
Awesome work guys!
Did not see any wire for locating
vanvulpen.eu/
Ok, ......now what ???
Stupid question but how is that drullbit oscillating? Where and how is it being powered?
Jesus Christ that pipe is big. Wait for it...
I want to see the truck that delivered that roll of pipe!
So, it wasn’t delivered as a roll... it would have been delivered in sections to the site and then those sections would have been fused together onsite (prior to this video) you can see one of the fusions at 0:43
There is such a thing as HDPE pipe that comes in rolls but max diameter for that is usually about 4” to 6”... what we see here is over 3ft (1100mm) in diameter.
Omg the drone ad that played during your video was so full of it 99$ drone retail $5,000 lmao
Directional Boring is the future! It even has its own holiday.
Digs not having to dig 750 foot trench, not cutting down shitload of trees and otherwise permanently ruining surrounding soil structure along both sides of massive Trench site that no doubt would have been refilled in with worthless clay and construction debris.
Probably not possible in all terrains.
Anything is possible if your budget is big enough. Tunnel Boring machines can cut through granite mountains and pipelines made with this technology can be many miles (kilometers) long.
sehr beeindruckend ,diese Technik ! Das sind eben Holländer....die haben das im Blut...!! Weiter so mit solchen Videos ! Danke !
Deutsche Technik ist doch auch sehr gut
Seen this done with a pipe line in the oil field.
That looks so much more expensive than just digging trenches. I wonder what forced them to do it this way.
Maybe not having to dig up the road or railway or even canal, that they can lay the pipe under?
Adam Molloy: When a Dutchman throws money for no reason, then it will be the end of the world!
Not ripping up 722 feet of the city above it.... or going under 722 feet of lake or river or roads or railroads or some combination of the above... you get the idea.
I have never seen before because in my country the way is different. This is a good way.
Can anyone tell me how deep the pipe was pulled in?
Robert Thomas we
Sorry do not understand.
Deeper then 10 meter, which is a requirement here in the Netherlands when crossing a railroad.
ох уж этот загнивающий запад, не то что у нас пол улицы расхуярят на год
Да в чем вопрос,гони бабло и тебе так же под огородом заделают🤣
Ahh tuggers , 7 days set up , 1 day pull , 4 days tear down , 1 month clean up restoration .lol cheers .
Horizontal Directional Driling machines (HDD)
В России в 2000 году, в Астраханской области был построен переход под р. Волга, длиной L=1450 метров! Диаметром трубопровода 1100 мм. Выполнила эту работу фирма Fernleitungs und Anlagenbau из Германии. .
4:03 man was not happy to be working on this day
Good job guys.
We have doing only gas pipe PEPP+RC biggest was d225
I used to work in a drilling company Hard rock directional drilling worked with the Vermeer 1,000,000
Meu Satanás, o que é isso???
Vocês são demais, queria ver isso aqui no Brasil.
I'm pretty impressed the ground not moning Lol
Good jop but y the driver with out PPE 🤔
Because he knew you had the day off, lol.
No one going to question why the front of that drill was not put down on the trailer and bouncing on the frame as they drove away?!?!?!?!
Que bonito país si cuenta con infraestructura y hermoso clima de 🍂🍂🌴🌳🌴🌳🌴🌴🌲🌴💢🍂💢💖💘💖💣💜💚💜💗💙👋💙👋💙☔☔☔☔💧🌊☔☔🌂☔☔☔
Did that here on 495 under Beltway DC area
Lot of shit in D.C.
Недавно тащили 1000метров трубы в 900мм.Прорывы бентонита были прям на дорогу,но справились.6 илососов одновременно работало по 10 м3.
xrun Morjov вопрос, что если где нибудь в середине соединение бура с трубой оборвется? тогда приходится копать на месте обрыва?
Вчера оборвались цепи сразу после расширителя.,тянули две трубы на 250 и оставалась всего одна штанга до финишного приямка.10 мая экскаватором выкопаем и достанем.Ничего страшного нет.Не дотянули 4 метра.Бывает и похуже.
Километр 900 ки? Какая установка? Бурил и 1500 но куда меньшей длины.
Я и 2 км с лишним делал на херике250
Ну вы даете...