Check out the full letter I wrote to Dragon family about how they could sweep this situation under the rug to avoid this public confrontation: docs.google.com/document/d/1Kx-p4gE66ZN5_kFChdp-v05RTnea3MvY_7_WMNJcYPk/edit
You have nothing but whales and u decided to bully 3 servers turning them against You. Now they are pushing You none stop as a result. I remember all your leadership in bdo coming to 33 trying to recruit everyone bc we werent unided. Aint this funny now u make videos telling half truths that everyone sees as lies but your fans that don't know better. All the salte from the tears are tasty
[12:33] I'd like to point out (and mean NO disrespect), but for the Starting Zone agreements, 3 servers were told to go to Burning Lands. In the chat when I was there, it was always "We are taking 2 zones and Dragon will take 1 zone, so you all are stuck in 1 zone." The two who invaded was NK (which I think was part of server 32) and GD (Server 34 I think). Also, BD started in two zones, BDM in Sofrostia and BDO in Daralan. Obviously Burning Lands would be angry because of resources. There weren't enough resources for all 3 servers and we maximized the space [in which BD (and I wasnt interested in global enough to see if Dragon did, but they might've) stated something like "Are you tired of starving in Burning Lands, come join us"]. Betrayals also happened in Burning Lands in which 46 became a home base for GD, half of 48 went to BD, and the other half of 48 staying in Burning Lands until they also were betrayed. There's no leader of and unified 48 anymore, 46 has basically split apart, and the only victors in Burning Lands are NK and GD. Even though the drama in this season centers on BD and Dragon, the other servers have basically been crumpled and/or ruined. [Document (full letter)] BD has allowed 48 people to join them (about one alliance worth, then later in the season, two alliance worth). Also, during the Caltia War, BD has also taken a considerable amount of t5 players from 34 which prompted some complaints. I don't know the amount. Also, if the proposed agreement is sent through, that screws over Burning Land contributors such as NK and GD. They are technically not part of Dragon. I get that the previous agreement had both Blood and Dragon united, but I feel that it'd be sad that Burning Lands warriors do deserve some reward after starving in one zone for half a season.
In my server mege, our server took two starting zones, one project in daralan and the whale alliance in zoland. My smaller alliance went to Burning lands, only to find it coincidentally occupied with almost every smaller alliance as well. I relocated to another starting region to join another alliance that was actually able to do something. Sucks to get stuck in a starting zone though, planning for the season overall wasn't the best, merging 4 servers into one server and then restricting the zones to start in to 4 and making them smaller.
Blood is greedy basically. Also, I remember searching for one rss node for 13+ minutes. I found one at the opposite side of the map. I also remember a Blood diplomat saying "We want this to be an enjoyable experience for all" and proceeds to ruin friendships, ruin servers, and force 100+ people into quitting the game (Im saying 100 because it's safe to say that's the minimum amount of people). This isn't even counting the consequences of shoving them all into one zone (betrayals, wars, and boring Dragon from fights). Blood won't ever know the consequences of their actions. Sure, this betrayal is bad, but it isn't worth a whole season of basically torture. In Burning Lands' eyes, all those things happened because of Blood, and we would probably curse them. Now f2p of the dead servers have 2 options, leave the game or spend 5k gems to 34 or 32 (which is pretty hard work for f2p and they'll be with t5 players) to a more active kingdom. Unless their kingdom does decide to stay together for next season, we all know the answer.
I've seen so many kingdoms/alliances betraying others this early in the game and it's so funny to me. No one will ever ally or trust them and they're putting themselves in a disadvantage for the entire future of the game.
You mean like when one ALLIANCE out of 4 servers takes half the starting territory to themselves and plsses off three entire servers? Yeah, you're right. That's not betrayal. That's upfront stupldity and blinded by ego. No betrayal by our 3 servers either. We were very honest in our hatred for BD. DS deserved one zone, BD deserved one zone. Neither deserved two. You fcked up there.. Stop crying victim. You tried to bully everyone else. Go cry victim somewhere else. You tried to bully everyone and failed.
I quit the game because of Dragon Family. The leadership across the whole group is terrible, you don't know anything unless you're in the top circle. Very chaotic + cryptic even for members
I tried talking with some of your diplomats about a deal, yet there no response!! Wowzer, after a little talk went silent yet I see him talking in tamaris chat! Just because we're a small alliance in BD family eyes doesn't mean we are irrelevant! So we didn't throw ourselves to ally with dragon family. I'm Co-lead in WING.
I was in Burning Land, and thanks for the video I finally understand what happened and why and how I ended up in Burning Land. All the agreement and betrayal aside, I wasn’t involved in any of those and was only following alliance leadership to move around the map, you said your territory is a disaster.. but have you imagined what it’s like to play in 1 zone together with 3 SERVERS + Nova? While Blood took 2 starting zones, I can’t even farm in our zone packed with players like a can of sardine. While I can’t farm, I can’t grow, and the power difference with you guys just widen day by day, I eventually quitted the game as there is nothing I can do, the zone is simply too packed. At least I hope the “betrayal” makes the game a bit more challenging and fun for you guys, otherwise it will just be FarmVille.
The diplomacy aspect of these types of games is one of my favorite aspects. The rogue players, the individuals and groups that are true totheir word, and the lies/ subterfuge that sketchy actors perpetrate. Add a geopolitical type aspect. The significance of wich cannot be over stated.
No pierdo el tiempo con tanta charla vacía. Dragon es una estafa, que más puedes pretender. Pérdida de tiempo y esfuerzo. Quedaron como basura y no hay más que decir sobre eso. Tienes los hechos y ellos solo palabras. Absurdo este debate
Asking the 3 servers u single handedly forced in one starting zone to join you is by far the biggest clown 🤡🤡 behavior ever. Keep trying to spread false narratives we know your recruitment will be wild s2
While in BL they had us locked up, many brothers from different alliances left because of the situation of being locked 3 servers in a region, while people from your BD alliance made fun of us, we have never read an apology from your alliance referring to that bullying towards BL since day 1. Why should we care about this situation? You sought it out.
hey Chis, I totally understand all these things, these are typical drama in new kingdom with 2 big alliances. I didn’t play cod, only play rok, but I understand what people thinking. the diplomacy doesn’t always work, and many times it is just wasting of time if the other side they don’t want to. Fixing this is simple, grow your power and wipe them out entirely from the kingdom or, migrate to somewhere they share the same value with you, you must know this better than me. Unfortunately this is the most efficient way to solve these type of problem.
Thanks for the clarity. I was frustrated earlier this week as we weren’t clearly pushing in any direction and note I understand why. Looking forward to the pass 4 domination. It’s not over!!!!!
The mistake bd did at the beging was thinking they were okay this season with DS and not attempting any sort of diplomacy with the other servers but rather seizing 2 zones for themselves and pushing everyone else into burning lands.
How about we talk about all the players and alliances Blood brought to the game, you included, and then completely discarded them unless they were massive spenders. Blood has some of the worst leadership that makes terrible spur of the moment decisions without even considering others or those that came to the game yo play with them.
If you thought you can stay with them as f2p you were dreaming bud. Their recruitment was mid to high spenders in the beginning then will take who ever after. Once I heard that I decided not to join the project. Too much $$
Recruitment since 3 months before game launched was for mid-high spenders with a minimum of 500 dollar investment a month from what I remember. Everyone else who joined as f2p took the BD name tag without first being vetted and chosen as part of the project. There were 10 unaffiliated alliances using the name to not get hit by others when the server began.
The s1 had more behemoths and more territory but s1+ has lesser behemoths and territory it made no sense to continue having multiple sub shells under the fam when they don’t get to play the game to the fullest (behemoths massive fights etc ) the efforts needed for this was too much for the results we got. So the decision was made to tell them move to another server or go independent.
Sad that this makes me want to pick up and start playing. I miss the diplomacy talks, the drama, and the fighting. Played ROK for 4 years as a whale and king for 2 of those years. Armamements finally did me in and made me quit. Maybe ill pick up CoD...
@@GUCCIPAPERPLATE It was just another thing to buy. It gets old and didn't add anything flavorful or interesting. Was just another thing I "had" to do. I have seen that they have released a lot of new KVK stories...if they had done that 6 months earlier I'd still be playing. The Armaments themselves weren't the problem, it was just adding another thing I had to do that had no additional "fun" factor for me or added entertainment value. That with the KVK stories being boring and old...yep was time to go. CoD looks interesting though. Not sure how I feel about the progress resets though.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 that’s fair, I felt the same way at first. I’m now in a KVK where I haven’t even fought and gate Z6 opens tomorrow. So I feel you bro. I will say though, armaments ain’t as mad as it originally seemed, I was on your side about it but you can actually get some decent ones for free if you have a decent state forum.
Two things you got burned on. You assumed the diplo was still in place- you know new diplo always creates a need to align. And getting pulled into the fight in the super extended zone- bro there are some many red flags that you mentioned in your video- a nap, a guarantee of t5 support, massively over extending your lines and depleting your storehouse. Obviously you got betrayed, but there are some clear lessons for everyone on what not to do in these types of situations
Its tricky because the original person they made deals and worked with disappeared. So you take the risk of hindering yourself because you arent 100% sure of new diplos. Or trusting they will honor the agreement and be successful. But in this case they trusted and were wrong. Always easier to look back and say what could have been done.
Brutal call to take 3/4 starting zones for one server. As someone who took in 1/2 of another server into our starting zone in S1+, even that was a giant pain to balance behemoths, pass access, and avoid diplomatic breakdowns. 🫠
You keep saying "the other 3 servers' T5's..." over and over. That's funny because all players over 20M from s48 were recruited to Blood at the end of season 1 as soon as the merges were announced. The ONLY T5's in Burning Lands belonged to NV/NK and a few hardcore holdouts in s34 Glory Days (GD01). The same was true for s46. Your first mistake of the season was to stuff everyone that you didn't want to be competition for season content into one zone. It created a boiling point. Betrayal was the course of the day in BL on a regular basis. It became a petri dish and the hatred for Blood's greediness grew. For whatever reason that Dragon decided to "betray" Blood--you provided them with a multitude of willing allies by hogging the map and the game content right from the beginning. How you thought putting a splinter of Blood Haters into one zone with every other server was going to be productive for you is hilarious. Like seriously...you tried fighting a war on two fronts (even IF one was supposedly a mock war) and Atheran became your Waterloo. He who fails to understand history is doomed to repeat it. Emperor Napoleon would have warned you of the outcome.
yeah you're right man, the biggest snake in this is really just Dragon family themselves, Blood family shouldn't have trusted them at all on watching their backs, what a disappointment, just a bunch of fake dragons and acted more like snakes
@@deepressedshrimp2619nah the biggest ash0les are blood family forcing 3 servers in one zone 1 with out a care in the world. Just using there p2w players to kill other servers and having them join them
The dragon family is also to blame for those 3 servers being stuck. If dragon had been honest from the beginning blood would have stayed in one zone together. The only reason blood took 2 was to try to even out the fighting for the season so it wouldn’t be a snooze fest. Because let’s be honest those 3 servers needed to be together to stand any chance. The matchmaking kinda screwed them. And blood together would have just steam rolled everything if you were all split between starting zones
Dragon at least took one zone, Blood took two and said nothing else. Blood wanted everything for themselves. The consequences of this decision was something Blood could never experience. I would search 13+ minutes for a rss node, only to find it on the opposite side of Burning Lands. While BL had to conserve their resources and take as much land as they can get, Blood built territory in lines and had a ton of space. Also, a person has stated, "While the other servers have 10-20 Core Forts, we have double/triple the amount!!!" The one statement I disagree with is "Emperor Napoleon would have warned you of the outcome." Napoleon would've said, "Never attack Russia in the winter." XD
You are so funny, bd said he was willing to negotiate after losing the game. Say something you don't like to hear. This is a war game. Only the loser will say these unsubstantiated or forged lies here. If bd is so good, why are there so many people joining forces to fight against bd? An anchor full of lies, I believe everyone has the ability to judge😂
some people like you just don't have enough comprehension to understand something as simple as dragon family betraying the agreement and their leadership not replying to Chisgules messages says a lot, so just sit there and be a good cannon fodder
There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent friends, only permanent interests. D family's interest from the beginning is not aligning with yours. If they don't provide their side of the story or well explain this confusion, their reputation is over.
Just keep living in this dream. The agreement was not to unite any alliance from other servers. Does UNITE include RECRUITE? Instead of asking us why we did not complain, you can ask yourself why you did not check with us before doing this. You feel this is not a violation, but we do, and you did not mention anything to us before doing it. We are tired of playing this stupid game under different rules made by BDO. You can always throw some random explanations and accuse us of betraying, but in the end, you just made all server hate you. I guess we all know who did this wrong.
some people like you just don't have enough comprehension to understand something as simple as dragon family betraying the agreement and their leadership not replying to Chisgules messages says a lot, so just sit there and be a good cannon fodder
We can name 10+ t5 BD recruited at the beginning of this season but you can barely name one joined DS. Just go to our server and see how the world react to this biased video.
@@Nikodaynewitness testimonies with no screenshots of convo of dragon family litteraly trying to recruit. All I saw was a witness testimony of a guy communicating with duhz with no literal proof behind his words. Those testimony are invalid unless you can bring concrete evidence, anybody could’ve made that discord account trying to promote false testimony.
Don’t feel bad for the 3 servers, you guys forced us into that zone and never once gave us any dignity or respect at all in your “ Diplo “ lol but man this story is deep!!!
I got in a full blown argument on blood discord but this season one when we made the deal to join family this was going to happen. Then I left game when blood family started kicking alliances from family. My point was always we had tons of numbers and support in house we should focus building that. Either way love you chisgule what you do for the community is great
Thank you for this! I got zeroed after we got betrayed in lorcan, luckily most of my troops were already in my hospital from fighting. It was very disappointing to watch the situation unfold with my own eyes. Sucks to hear you had to go through so much trouble for no response. I have 0 idea of how things could change moving forward, but hopefully we continue getting fights and having fun.
Why trying so hard to be the "good guy" BD? Ever heard of "telling more lies just to cover one big fat lie?" This is what you guys are doing right now lol. Think for yourself why the other alliances group up to fight you guys? Why everyone group up to fight BD? (Crying out loud saying you guys 2v5 completely leaving out BDM2 and BDM3's contribution, salute to your ignorance and arrogance man) .Tell me something, setting up your Alliance Fortress right in front of the face of Dragon family and NK, is it because of arrogance or poor planning? If you guys are such nice alliance you wouldn't get wrecked so hard together by other alliances. Stop thinking you're the strongest and be humble, grow up and accept defeat like a man. Expecting this comment to get deleted soon anyway lmao!
nah this is more just about the betrayal man, when there's an agreement or pact made between two parties then it should be respected and honored, don't just keep busting out that loser mentality of yours that it's okay for you to just ignore the betrayal
@@deepressedshrimp2619 I'm seeing another BD crybaby here after losing the war, grow up dear. This is just a one sided story, it's okay you can stick to your Blood Family, enjoy farming in Z1 and continue getting brainwashed by your beloved dictators. :)
Yes if only their side would come to the table to tell it. Unfortunately to this moment there is still not a single person who can point to the way in which we violated the agreement. I’m waiting.
im one of the burning lands people who u decided to screw over and send them all to BL , we simply want to beat on u because u are arrogant and when we approached u and duhz and others got no reply when we were in caltya and when we were in sofrostia u forced us all to resurge and not even allow us some land to have a farming season , and all that ofc after u recruited almost a whole alliance and 50% of our t5 even before the season started , that doesnt seem like no ourside interference to me , u got bassicaly many of our big gunz before we even start , so dont question everyone going with dragons because atleast at that moment dragons were the better communicators and gave better gameplay for us and the whole season unlike what u do which is destroy and recruit people, again so much for no outside interference , no1 wants to negotiate with u guys thats ur karma u have to accept it @@Chisgule
bd did not go for a good game rather than bd's best intrest / imagine and ego , it is what it is , u cant say u will go against everyone and then back off @@Chisgule
Great video. Love watching your BD tears now when before the season started that you were so far up your own a$$es that you were too blind to see that taking two zones for your one alliance was going to create three servers worth of animosity towards you. And took all of our drama queens from our servers that everyone hates. Now crying victim. Where's your ego now? 😂😂😂. How could you be so blinded by ego that you couldn't see this happening? You poor babies, aww. Tear shed for you bltches...
Honestly, I do enjoy this season 1000 times more than the last, i believe a lot BD members will agree with me on that. Not all players want to be in a situation where you fight a day or two then farm for the rest of the season. GG all, it was a great campaign.
your too greedy lol you locked all the other servers into a small zone without enough resources. that caused everyone to hate you while the dragons where just sitting back watching you make enemies. it is not a betrayal its a strategy
@@senzgura the pact was made when the power was equal, it was a pact between 2 equal powers, once bd o made enemies of everyone else and started becoming over streched then it was obvious the pact is gone. the main threat to breach of the pact would be a war, but there is not even any threat of that anymore because bd o is spent.
If they honor the pact they would instead help BD, I hope u don’t sit n watch ur brother be jumped n decide to jump him with them because he not considered equal to you now. But I guess that’s just out strategizing your brother who’s loves n trust you.
@@Kayoshu999 the pact was to keep peace between two superpowers and avoid a costly war.. once bd o overstretched then the balance of power went into the dragon's favor. dragon no longer need to keep the agreement and any threat of war is laughable now... so the agreement was over, also he spoke about the other 3 server getting betrayed by dragon, well the alternative would have been stuck in zone 1, and the only reward we want is revenge :) it was not inconceivable that we would have been stuck in zone 1 all season had the bdo/dragon pact lasted. they wanted to take everything, with t5 they melted us like butter.
I do not get call of dragons seems more toxic than rok itself lol. is it kvk there or a kingdom and if it is a kingdom fight and leave to a newer kingdom if it does not work honestly that looks like a very toxic situation to be imagen fighting against other severs with those guys lmao
34 was spoiled by themselves, they were beaten by BD and yet, almost all of 34's t5s joined BD, what's left of 34 is now in DAB, which is fighting side by side with DS, DA and NK, and everyone will have rewards, including GD participants, But unfortunately GD is an alliance with low activity, and their leader left the alliance to join BD yesterday.
@Chisgule this is actually funny... cuz it is very similar to my experiences as diplomat in ROK.... and looking at these messages and reading all of them 1 by 1... i can litterally agree with everything u just made... cuz there is no information about it to what the hell is going on... now i can tell 1 thing that i have played call of dragons... the game is (kinda) still new. and there is so many unexperienced players that will take advantage and lie about their experiences in the game... now here is some teaching for all the newbs Diplomat (ROK/COD) - you or your comrades are the information center, you posses the knowledge than anyone else and u take the responsibility as an diplomat to take full control of heated conversations and find solutions for both parties (alliances/family) find a good deal/proposal. now u might be confusing with the leader as a diplomat... but no... the leader of alliance is to meant so that all officers or members arent violating any rules set by the leader himself or ancestor before him... making him the alliance engine car. but its also not bad idea to contact the leader to start a conversation now keep in mind. watching from 30:16 to 41:20 timestamp. and reading all the information what is given. i can come to conclude that Max and other officers might be new or young to the game despite them of being whales who spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars/money to become strong... i know this from ROK where some ppl spent their savings from their parents credit cards or uses allowance from their parents to buy stuff in ROK... if thats the case with max... where they havent given alot information about it... then i can safe to say that there is no point talking to a wall. not to mention about their reply speed. their speed is so slow taking few days if not weeks to actually get a response from the team itself. if their officers arent responding. then the alliance is safe to say dead...
You tell a great half truth. Funny you didn’t mention throwing a bunch of subs away at the end of season 1 or doing the same in the middle of season 1+. When you make the rest of your server hate you, this is the best case scenario for you. Try being better to the rest of your server ❤
This is as incorrect as DFs claims. There was never an agreement promising sub alliances a valuable spot in the upcoming season. Please provide evidence proving otherwise
Well - the only subs that were cut were the ones that didn’t push power , or weren’t very active . Also some of the subs cut were because of their R5’s freaking out over dumb stuff . No one to blame but yourself or your R5’s - how do you expect Blood leaders to make 700+ people happy ? Impossible! So they cut them from the family ….
I am currently 24m power in sss1-25 and I see players with 50+ million power with maxed out heroes/artifacts and t5 and they can just dominate the field. F2p or low spending players don’t even have a chance no matter how much time they put in because they are maybe a year behind those whales/krakens and it’s caused multiple players to quit the game and honestly I don’t even stand a chance with 3 other players with the same power against one of those t5 players it’s extremely frustrating feeling powerless against those players and I’m thinking about quitting or taking a break until something is done to help balance the game (this won’t happen because the developers make too much money off of those players to care about f2p or low spenders).
This feel so sad tho, If i were in the blood side i will also feel disappointed and betrayed especially from your family that you're just trying to respect and help
From my experience in ROK & COD, Chisgule comes off very nice, almost to the point of Naivety, it'd be really easy to sugar coat my words and then lead him into a backstab. Just playing devils advocate, I hope you guys just decide to drop a few racks and stomp them out
Even though I quit RoS and CoD for financial reasons (related to a newborn entering my life :) ), I still love keeping up to date. I wish i was still in the Trenches in Blood Family!
had same problem with a jumper in rok kd 3053. We had Europe group with big whales and Chinese group with big whales. They were very difficult to reach out to and betrayed our agreements with no reason and portrayed to other alliances like we were the bad guys however all went well at the end as they finally agreed to join our family after fighting us which was pointless lol.
I have the impression that BD outsmarted Dragon by recruiting and postitioning itself from the beginning without violating the agreement displayed. BD intent was clearly not friendly towards DS or, at least, the results caused by its actions damaged DS. Chisgule knows what happens if whales dont fight for too long periods. I hope DS share it's point of view, because I have only access to what I had to endure in Burning Lands. The only thing that becomes clearer is that there are no saints in here.
So you put 3 servers in one starting zone and 6 bdo alliances took 2 starting zones? In the season where there is less behemots... and now you want to find allies amoung those 3 servers? That is hillarious :D. Have you watched game of thrones? Are you still suprised dragons have betrayed you? :D
So my thoughts are that the situation might be ok if Sean comes back but that is very unlikely. I hope that things may get talked out. Language barrier is sooo frustrating in diplomacy.
As a doctor who plays cod, other diplomats i encounter in the game, do not feel like responsible and normal mentally abled adults. Most of the time i feel like I’m talking to kids. I understand your frustration so much brother😂
taking 2 starting zones was a joke, you literally prevented DS and DA from having a fight in the neutral zone, Forgotten Lands, as well as pushing all other alliances into an overpopulated region. "three servers are in burning lands, and they need to figure out how to be allies so they can fight blood family and dragon family" is what you said at 13:12 you know chisgule, you literally beat up several alliances in Sofrostia, and all of them had to migrate to burning lands, and those that were already in burning lands had to endure the lack of space in a region, where it was impossible to farm and develop the territory . With all these things, why do you think these alliances would try to fight the dragon family? it is logical that everyone would unite to ally with the dragon family, and in this way destroy BD, who did all this dirty work with them by taking 2 zones for you. BDO took almost all of the t5 from the other servers, the ones left remained on GD and DAB, all willing to destroy BD, you know that, and this is all a consequence of you having taken 2 early zones.
First of all I want to say we as BD suffered the same farming,territory,space problems in s1,to many alliances landing in one zone making it impossible to farm effectively so we know your pain. It's not on us as BD to design the map to fit everyone in,it's the job of the devs to create enough zones for everyone to land in. We can't change your situation because we have about 6 alliances full of players who need farming space too. What we do now? Ofc we chose to land in 2 zones to have enough space available,before the server merge we communicated to GD,server 46 and 48 where we would land and that their only zone to land in is burning lands ,server 46 and 48 followed our suggestion Nk and 34 didn't and they paid the price for their decision. Hope I could help to clarify ❤
@@AquaBDF so you are justifying having 2 starting zones with "we have 6 alliances " who need to farm?! ofc, poor you, you need to farm, other 3 servers can farm in 1 staring zone, thats enough for them... what a joke man... and on top of that you recruit most of 5 players from those 3 servers so we were even more weakened... tons of ppl quit, most original groups disband, and surporise, surpise - 3 servers hold a grudge against blood alliances
@@AquaBDF you trapped 3 whole servers in 1 tiny zone, more than 80 alliance strongholds in 1 zone, while the other 3 had 15 max, you trapped several strong alliances like NK, TwB, BLB, BLA, GD and some others in BL, you cultivated the revolt of all these players, forcing them to stay in a prison called BL, at the same time that you decided to keep 5 regions, Daralan, sofrostia, nuvola, caltia and holendale. moreover, Daralan? serious? you literally took a zone and prevented people from other servers from joining Daralan and advancing to Forgotten Lands to fight DS and DA, leaving them without a fight for almost 1 month, it's obvious they would get bored, you took away any chance to fight that they had. moreover, the alliances whose t5s left them and went to BD were extremely frustrated with the departure of their whales, so they are being treated with disdain, because in addition to being defeated and humiliated by BD, they also went to the side of the enemy and attacked their old alliances... if there's something worse than that I don't know what it is, and that added to the previous arrest causes a huge revolt in these players, you're lucky, if z3 was bigger, they wouldn't have only 5 alliances against you, but 60. you reap what you sow, and you sowed revolt in several BL players, I am one of them, my old alliance (D/D) got stuck in BL, after you kicked out sophrostia and daralan players, it got crowded here and had no resource points to collect, generating even more revolt in the players. all this could have been avoided if you followed the plan by everyone which was what was released and agreed, that you would go to sofrostia while the other servers would go to Daralan and BL, but no, you put them in a prison, you created a monster , and now this monster is devouring you.
Trapped three servers into one zone by taking two when you should have only taken 1 like DS AND took in all of our hated players from our server. Comical the crying now from BD like they were betrayed. You said fck you to 3 entire servers from the beginning. No, fck you. Love watching these tears from the previous egomaniacs. Now all claiming to be victims. 😂😂😂😂 Gtfoh hypocrites
@@77Vasco77 The betrayal has nothing to do with the other servers. We never made a deal with the other servers, we'd fight them and we did fight them and win. DS betrayed us is the sole focus of the video, you're going off topic.
Reading this comment section makes me wonder how much these east asian/ South east asian alliances betray, for example in 2642 we had this vietnamese. main alliance and they honestly were so chaotic and racist. And during kvk they betrayed a ally who was helping us invade another vietnamese king in kvk, So we took opportunity and started a civil war it went well then downhill, Following our defeat we just skirmished. After LK ended they cut of our territory, But we managed to zero many of them, We eventually lost and migrated to KD 2641. But we crippled them so badly that today speaking they are struggling to maintain 6milliln total power for the main alliance😂
dragon family leadership/ diplomats are hands down the worst kind of leaders. I hope the dragon family will get it together before Blood family wipes them off the map along with all their little server lackeys.
Ive had this experience with some Korean kingdoms in RoK. Almost identical tbh. Some of them were great all around. Fighting diplo etc. but others hated the fact foreigners had power so much that they eventually just went rogue and burned all our cities in zone 3 while we slept. By the time we all were aware of what was going on it was too late and the people we were friends with on their side couldnt do anything but watch.
@@Chisgule guys you protected and even gave resources on the regular yet they switch at the first sign an enemy may be stronger. I’m playing mean from now on 😂
I've seen diplo go horribly, especially when it involves diplomacy with a top alliance in a region or server. Compared to smaller alliances, many high power members in top alliances think they might be above "the law" in a sense, and will simply attack when they want, even after being warned by r4s hours earlier to stop. The comparison between the diplomacy I saw in a smaller alliance I was in and a larger alliance I was in is huge.
If I spent 15k just to encounter this bs, I woild be livid. I listen to U.S. diplomats speak about relations with China and they share your frustration. Thanks for the vid.
Betrayal is endemic in CoD. To the extent it's the culture. Alliances also kick individuals out at the drop of a hat. As long as Fairlight doesn't lose players, there will be no change in gameplay.
As sad as this is it makes me a little happier my alliance wasn't the only one betrayed this season. Here's to hoping we all get decent allies next season(s)
Do you complain like this to your wife as well? 😂 I get that this is your “job” but really none of this matters and isn’t worth complaining like a school girl about
Anyone trying to join a mega alliance should get smashed to dust and betrayed routinely just like this, well done for promoting war over farmville dragon fam.
You repeatedly say that Dragon will give nothing to their new allies, all those allies wanted was to play the game in a way they didn't get absolutely slaughtered.
There using there whales to bully every server they merge with this just a taste of there medicine and all the tears falling from there eyes is medicine
@@Setsu1606 three entire SERVERS forced into one zone when one ALLIANCE takes two entire zones to themselves and that's a gift? Wtf you smoking. BD created three servers worth of animosity towards themselves before the season started. Dug your own graves
Interesting 🤔 Maybe This is something common for chinese leadership? I don't mean to be racist but we had the same experience in mir4 where chinese people who we allied with betrayed us.
Check out the full letter I wrote to Dragon family about how they could sweep this situation under the rug to avoid this public confrontation: docs.google.com/document/d/1Kx-p4gE66ZN5_kFChdp-v05RTnea3MvY_7_WMNJcYPk/edit
You have nothing but whales and u decided to bully 3 servers turning them against You. Now they are pushing You none stop as a result. I remember all your leadership in bdo coming to 33 trying to recruit everyone bc we werent unided. Aint this funny now u make videos telling half truths that everyone sees as lies but your fans that don't know better. All the salte from the tears are tasty
Salt*
your sources names and discord @ are revealed in 41:36 in the "messaging section" bro
@@abnhamahthat ain’t his inside source lol
Your “powerhouse” dream is DX and JEDI now 😂
[12:33] I'd like to point out (and mean NO disrespect), but for the Starting Zone agreements, 3 servers were told to go to Burning Lands. In the chat when I was there, it was always "We are taking 2 zones and Dragon will take 1 zone, so you all are stuck in 1 zone." The two who invaded was NK (which I think was part of server 32) and GD (Server 34 I think). Also, BD started in two zones, BDM in Sofrostia and BDO in Daralan. Obviously Burning Lands would be angry because of resources. There weren't enough resources for all 3 servers and we maximized the space [in which BD (and I wasnt interested in global enough to see if Dragon did, but they might've) stated something like "Are you tired of starving in Burning Lands, come join us"]. Betrayals also happened in Burning Lands in which 46 became a home base for GD, half of 48 went to BD, and the other half of 48 staying in Burning Lands until they also were betrayed. There's no leader of and unified 48 anymore, 46 has basically split apart, and the only victors in Burning Lands are NK and GD. Even though the drama in this season centers on BD and Dragon, the other servers have basically been crumpled and/or ruined.
[Document (full letter)] BD has allowed 48 people to join them (about one alliance worth, then later in the season, two alliance worth). Also, during the Caltia War, BD has also taken a considerable amount of t5 players from 34 which prompted some complaints. I don't know the amount. Also, if the proposed agreement is sent through, that screws over Burning Land contributors such as NK and GD. They are technically not part of Dragon. I get that the previous agreement had both Blood and Dragon united, but I feel that it'd be sad that Burning Lands warriors do deserve some reward after starving in one zone for half a season.
In my server mege, our server took two starting zones, one project in daralan and the whale alliance in zoland. My smaller alliance went to Burning lands, only to find it coincidentally occupied with almost every smaller alliance as well. I relocated to another starting region to join another alliance that was actually able to do something. Sucks to get stuck in a starting zone though, planning for the season overall wasn't the best, merging 4 servers into one server and then restricting the zones to start in to 4 and making them smaller.
No one cares about Burning Land, no point talking it out
Blood is greedy basically. Also, I remember searching for one rss node for 13+ minutes. I found one at the opposite side of the map.
I also remember a Blood diplomat saying "We want this to be an enjoyable experience for all" and proceeds to ruin friendships, ruin servers, and force 100+ people into quitting the game (Im saying 100 because it's safe to say that's the minimum amount of people). This isn't even counting the consequences of shoving them all into one zone (betrayals, wars, and boring Dragon from fights). Blood won't ever know the consequences of their actions. Sure, this betrayal is bad, but it isn't worth a whole season of basically torture. In Burning Lands' eyes, all those things happened because of Blood, and we would probably curse them.
Now f2p of the dead servers have 2 options, leave the game or spend 5k gems to 34 or 32 (which is pretty hard work for f2p and they'll be with t5 players) to a more active kingdom. Unless their kingdom does decide to stay together for next season, we all know the answer.
@@Raven1135- skill issues
I've seen so many kingdoms/alliances betraying others this early in the game and it's so funny to me. No one will ever ally or trust them and they're putting themselves in a disadvantage for the entire future of the game.
Must not be looking to much then
You mean like when one ALLIANCE out of 4 servers takes half the starting territory to themselves and plsses off three entire servers? Yeah, you're right. That's not betrayal. That's upfront stupldity and blinded by ego.
No betrayal by our 3 servers either. We were very honest in our hatred for BD. DS deserved one zone, BD deserved one zone. Neither deserved two. You fcked up there.. Stop crying victim. You tried to bully everyone else. Go cry victim somewhere else. You tried to bully everyone and failed.
putting 3 servers worth of alliance in a single zone is wild.
I quit the game because of Dragon Family. The leadership across the whole group is terrible, you don't know anything unless you're in the top circle. Very chaotic + cryptic even for members
I tried talking with some of your diplomats about a deal, yet there no response!! Wowzer, after a little talk went silent yet I see him talking in tamaris chat! Just because we're a small alliance in BD family eyes doesn't mean we are irrelevant! So we didn't throw ourselves to ally with dragon family. I'm Co-lead in WING.
I was in Burning Land, and thanks for the video I finally understand what happened and why and how I ended up in Burning Land. All the agreement and betrayal aside, I wasn’t involved in any of those and was only following alliance leadership to move around the map, you said your territory is a disaster.. but have you imagined what it’s like to play in 1 zone together with 3 SERVERS + Nova? While Blood took 2 starting zones, I can’t even farm in our zone packed with players like a can of sardine. While I can’t farm, I can’t grow, and the power difference with you guys just widen day by day, I eventually quitted the game as there is nothing I can do, the zone is simply too packed.
At least I hope the “betrayal” makes the game a bit more challenging and fun for you guys, otherwise it will just be FarmVille.
I don’t even play this game but drama is drama 😂😂😂
Edit: watched whole video lol this is crazy 💀💀💀
48:02 dang that guy sounds full of wisdom, what a cool dude... 😎😎
xD
yeah, that guy sounds really smart
TLDR of the video: Dragon Family is spineless and lies at any given opportunity to gain an advantage.
They sound like IRL ppl😂😂😂
After the old leadership stopped playing/stepped down yes
@@charliec8804correct
The video not started. I got my popcorn, I'm strapped in for the journey 🔥🔥❤️
The diplomacy aspect of these types of games is one of my favorite aspects. The rogue players, the individuals and groups that are true totheir word, and the lies/ subterfuge that sketchy actors perpetrate. Add a geopolitical type aspect. The significance of wich cannot be over stated.
No pierdo el tiempo con tanta charla vacía. Dragon es una estafa, que más puedes pretender. Pérdida de tiempo y esfuerzo. Quedaron como basura y no hay más que decir sobre eso. Tienes los hechos y ellos solo palabras. Absurdo este debate
We have seen the screen shots… sorry bud. Can’t make yourself look good 😂
Amazing, maybe you can tell bdo how we violated the agreement. So far no one has managed to find the words.
live stream the pass!! also give a update on this whole situation love the chaos great video btw
always issues with chinese players in these games you think everything is going well then suddenly its war
Sounds racist but your not nessicarily wrong it's generally the case from stuff I've seen 😅
as always say drama = fun
Asking the 3 servers u single handedly forced in one starting zone to join you is by far the biggest clown 🤡🤡 behavior ever. Keep trying to spread false narratives we know your recruitment will be wild s2
Well there Asian 😅
just like the choke point the 300 spartans had at thermopylae u had at atheran 😂 all the server is persia against the few greeks
While in BL they had us locked up, many brothers from different alliances left because of the situation of being locked 3 servers in a region, while people from your BD alliance made fun of us, we have never read an apology from your alliance referring to that bullying towards BL since day 1. Why should we care about this situation? You sought it out.
Grabbin my popcorn and gonna watch this whole vid after
hey Chis, I totally understand all these things, these are typical drama in new kingdom with 2 big alliances. I didn’t play cod, only play rok, but I understand what people thinking. the diplomacy doesn’t always work, and many times it is just wasting of time if the other side they don’t want to. Fixing this is simple, grow your power and wipe them out entirely from the kingdom or, migrate to somewhere they share the same value with you, you must know this better than me. Unfortunately this is the most efficient way to solve these type of problem.
I wish my ex was this hung up on me wtf 💀
Also dragon didn't ally the whole map to beat bd. Bd alienated all the other servers and made them enemies. Of course we will ally with Ds to beat u.
Thanks for the clarity.
I was frustrated earlier this week as we weren’t clearly pushing in any direction and note I understand why.
Looking forward to the pass 4 domination. It’s not over!!!!!
The mistake bd did at the beging was thinking they were okay this season with DS and not attempting any sort of diplomacy with the other servers but rather seizing 2 zones for themselves and pushing everyone else into burning lands.
You are 100% correct. The biggest mistake BD made was trusting dragon unconditionally and not preparing fallbacks
@@michaelli4880bd forced 3 servers in one zone 1 that's ash0le behavior they get what they deserve
@@Kp77-f8y deserved or not DS are still snakes :)
So… BD is at fault because they decided to trust their ally?!?!?
@@Setsu1606 it is when that ally is Dragon, and now the world knows
BDO/Zayonyx
Amazing work chis, 👏 dragons won't slide from this. U mentioned every point that's needed clarification.
How about we talk about all the players and alliances Blood brought to the game, you included, and then completely discarded them unless they were massive spenders. Blood has some of the worst leadership that makes terrible spur of the moment decisions without even considering others or those that came to the game yo play with them.
Not the talk of the video dude
Because massive spenders are the most competitive player, specially in the highest spending alliance in the game. Of course they would be a priority
If you thought you can stay with them as f2p you were dreaming bud. Their recruitment was mid to high spenders in the beginning then will take who ever after. Once I heard that I decided not to join the project. Too much $$
Recruitment since 3 months before game launched was for mid-high spenders with a minimum of 500 dollar investment a month from what I remember.
Everyone else who joined as f2p took the BD name tag without first being vetted and chosen as part of the project. There were 10 unaffiliated alliances using the name to not get hit by others when the server began.
The s1 had more behemoths and more territory but s1+ has lesser behemoths and territory it made no sense to continue having multiple sub shells under the fam when they don’t get to play the game to the fullest (behemoths massive fights etc ) the efforts needed for this was too much for the results we got. So the decision was made to tell them move to another server or go independent.
Sad that this makes me want to pick up and start playing. I miss the diplomacy talks, the drama, and the fighting. Played ROK for 4 years as a whale and king for 2 of those years. Armamements finally did me in and made me quit. Maybe ill pick up CoD...
no armaments here and the combat is really fun you should pick it up
they'll do the same thing as rok and slowly make it more p2w
Armaments ain't even bad especially if you're a "whale" and especially since they added transmutation.
@@GUCCIPAPERPLATE It was just another thing to buy. It gets old and didn't add anything flavorful or interesting. Was just another thing I "had" to do. I have seen that they have released a lot of new KVK stories...if they had done that 6 months earlier I'd still be playing. The Armaments themselves weren't the problem, it was just adding another thing I had to do that had no additional "fun" factor for me or added entertainment value. That with the KVK stories being boring and old...yep was time to go. CoD looks interesting though. Not sure how I feel about the progress resets though.
@@savagesnadgaming7252 that’s fair, I felt the same way at first. I’m now in a KVK where I haven’t even fought and gate Z6 opens tomorrow. So I feel you bro.
I will say though, armaments ain’t as mad as it originally seemed, I was on your side about it but you can actually get some decent ones for free if you have a decent state forum.
Not a good look for our Chinese brothers.
Yeah even as a representative as 48 the betrayal was clear to see.
38:48 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Two things you got burned on. You assumed the diplo was still in place- you know new diplo always creates a need to align. And getting pulled into the fight in the super extended zone- bro there are some many red flags that you mentioned in your video- a nap, a guarantee of t5 support, massively over extending your lines and depleting your storehouse.
Obviously you got betrayed, but there are some clear lessons for everyone on what not to do in these types of situations
Its tricky because the original person they made deals and worked with disappeared. So you take the risk of hindering yourself because you arent 100% sure of new diplos. Or trusting they will honor the agreement and be successful. But in this case they trusted and were wrong. Always easier to look back and say what could have been done.
We want more videos about 32
Brutal call to take 3/4 starting zones for one server. As someone who took in 1/2 of another server into our starting zone in S1+, even that was a giant pain to balance behemoths, pass access, and avoid diplomatic breakdowns. 🫠
You keep saying "the other 3 servers' T5's..." over and over. That's funny because all players over 20M from s48 were recruited to Blood at the end of season 1 as soon as the merges were announced.
The ONLY T5's in Burning Lands belonged to NV/NK and a few hardcore holdouts in s34 Glory Days (GD01). The same was true for s46. Your first mistake of the season was to stuff everyone that you didn't want to be competition for season content into one zone. It created a boiling point. Betrayal was the course of the day in BL on a regular basis. It became a petri dish and the hatred for Blood's greediness grew.
For whatever reason that Dragon decided to "betray" Blood--you provided them with a multitude of willing allies by hogging the map and the game content right from the beginning. How you thought putting a splinter of Blood Haters into one zone with every other server was going to be productive for you is hilarious.
Like seriously...you tried fighting a war on two fronts (even IF one was supposedly a mock war) and Atheran became your Waterloo. He who fails to understand history is doomed to repeat it. Emperor Napoleon would have warned you of the outcome.
It’s not the fight he’s angry about it’s the betrayal of dragon family
yeah you're right man, the biggest snake in this is really just Dragon family themselves, Blood family shouldn't have trusted them at all on watching their backs, what a disappointment, just a bunch of fake dragons and acted more like snakes
@@deepressedshrimp2619nah the biggest ash0les are blood family forcing 3 servers in one zone 1 with out a care in the world. Just using there p2w players to kill other servers and having them join them
The dragon family is also to blame for those 3 servers being stuck. If dragon had been honest from the beginning blood would have stayed in one zone together. The only reason blood took 2 was to try to even out the fighting for the season so it wouldn’t be a snooze fest. Because let’s be honest those 3 servers needed to be together to stand any chance. The matchmaking kinda screwed them. And blood together would have just steam rolled everything if you were all split between starting zones
Dragon at least took one zone, Blood took two and said nothing else. Blood wanted everything for themselves. The consequences of this decision was something Blood could never experience. I would search 13+ minutes for a rss node, only to find it on the opposite side of Burning Lands. While BL had to conserve their resources and take as much land as they can get, Blood built territory in lines and had a ton of space. Also, a person has stated, "While the other servers have 10-20 Core Forts, we have double/triple the amount!!!"
The one statement I disagree with is "Emperor Napoleon would have warned you of the outcome." Napoleon would've said, "Never attack Russia in the winter." XD
You are so funny, bd said he was willing to negotiate after losing the game. Say something you don't like to hear. This is a war game. Only the loser will say these unsubstantiated or forged lies here. If bd is so good, why are there so many people joining forces to fight against bd? An anchor full of lies, I believe everyone has the ability to judge😂
some people like you just don't have enough comprehension to understand something as simple as dragon family betraying the agreement and their leadership not replying to Chisgules messages says a lot, so just sit there and be a good cannon fodder
There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent friends, only permanent interests. D family's interest from the beginning is not aligning with yours. If they don't provide their side of the story or well explain this confusion, their reputation is over.
Just keep living in this dream. The agreement was not to unite any alliance from other servers. Does UNITE include RECRUITE? Instead of asking us why we did not complain, you can ask yourself why you did not check with us before doing this. You feel this is not a violation, but we do, and you did not mention anything to us before doing it. We are tired of playing this stupid game under different rules made by BDO. You can always throw some random explanations and accuse us of betraying, but in the end, you just made all server hate you. I guess we all know who did this wrong.
You're denying witness testimonies that dragon themselves were recruiting? Your point doesn't stand.
some people like you just don't have enough comprehension to understand something as simple as dragon family betraying the agreement and their leadership not replying to Chisgules messages says a lot, so just sit there and be a good cannon fodder
@@Nikodayne Name a single one plz
We can name 10+ t5 BD recruited at the beginning of this season but you can barely name one joined DS. Just go to our server and see how the world react to this biased video.
@@Nikodaynewitness testimonies with no screenshots of convo of dragon family litteraly trying to recruit. All I saw was a witness testimony of a guy communicating with duhz with no literal proof behind his words. Those testimony are invalid unless you can bring concrete evidence, anybody could’ve made that discord account trying to promote false testimony.
Chisgule...come on man Chinese do not like us
Don’t feel bad for the 3 servers, you guys forced us into that zone and never once gave us any dignity or respect at all in your “ Diplo “ lol but man this story is deep!!!
I got in a full blown argument on blood discord but this season one when we made the deal to join family this was going to happen. Then I left game when blood family started kicking alliances from family. My point was always we had tons of numbers and support in house we should focus building that. Either way love you chisgule what you do for the community is great
Thank you for this! I got zeroed after we got betrayed in lorcan, luckily most of my troops were already in my hospital from fighting. It was very disappointing to watch the situation unfold with my own eyes. Sucks to hear you had to go through so much trouble for no response. I have 0 idea of how things could change moving forward, but hopefully we continue getting fights and having fun.
You clearly do taking the time to reply like that 😂😂😂
knew there would be toxic replies lol
they deleted it
I knew you guys should have never trusted the dragon family
Why trying so hard to be the "good guy" BD? Ever heard of "telling more lies just to cover one big fat lie?" This is what you guys are doing right now lol. Think for yourself why the other alliances group up to fight you guys? Why everyone group up to fight BD? (Crying out loud saying you guys 2v5 completely leaving out BDM2 and BDM3's contribution, salute to your ignorance and arrogance man) .Tell me something, setting up your Alliance Fortress right in front of the face of Dragon family and NK, is it because of arrogance or poor planning? If you guys are such nice alliance you wouldn't get wrecked so hard together by other alliances. Stop thinking you're the strongest and be humble, grow up and accept defeat like a man. Expecting this comment to get deleted soon anyway lmao!
nah this is more just about the betrayal man, when there's an agreement or pact made between two parties then it should be respected and honored, don't just keep busting out that loser mentality of yours that it's okay for you to just ignore the betrayal
@@deepressedshrimp2619 I'm seeing another BD crybaby here after losing the war, grow up dear. This is just a one sided story, it's okay you can stick to your Blood Family, enjoy farming in Z1 and continue getting brainwashed by your beloved dictators. :)
Should have seen this coming once leadership that you talked to quit or got busy
Most fun and the most fighting I’ve ever had tbh. 😂
yea thats ur side of the story , there is a whole another side , but it doesnt matter bs will smell anyway
Yes if only their side would come to the table to tell it. Unfortunately to this moment there is still not a single person who can point to the way in which we violated the agreement. I’m waiting.
im one of the burning lands people who u decided to screw over and send them all to BL , we simply want to beat on u because u are arrogant and when we approached u and duhz and others got no reply when we were in caltya and when we were in sofrostia u forced us all to resurge and not even allow us some land to have a farming season , and all that ofc after u recruited almost a whole alliance and 50% of our t5 even before the season started , that doesnt seem like no ourside interference to me , u got bassicaly many of our big gunz before we even start , so dont question everyone going with dragons because atleast at that moment dragons were the better communicators and gave better gameplay for us and the whole season unlike what u do which is destroy and recruit people, again so much for no outside interference , no1 wants to negotiate with u guys thats ur karma u have to accept it
@@Chisgule
bd did not go for a good game rather than bd's best intrest / imagine and ego , it is what it is , u cant say u will go against everyone and then back off
@@Chisgule
I would like to hear the whole other side of the story, so far nobody has from dragon has provided it.😊
they did sir , there is a whole goggle document for it , ill link here when i find it
@@Kankanzy47
Good video.
Great video. Love watching your BD tears now when before the season started that you were so far up your own a$$es that you were too blind to see that taking two zones for your one alliance was going to create three servers worth of animosity towards you.
And took all of our drama queens from our servers that everyone hates.
Now crying victim. Where's your ego now? 😂😂😂. How could you be so blinded by ego that you couldn't see this happening?
You poor babies, aww. Tear shed for you bltches...
ya bro dragon kingdom are a bunch of female dogs
Honestly, I do enjoy this season 1000 times more than the last, i believe a lot BD members will agree with me on that. Not all players want to be in a situation where you fight a day or two then farm for the rest of the season. GG all, it was a great campaign.
insane betrayal love the drama and the game, update us in a few days please great video
that really sucks bruh, hope y'all stay strong after all that
your too greedy lol you locked all the other servers into a small zone without enough resources. that caused everyone to hate you while the dragons where just sitting back watching you make enemies. it is not a betrayal its a strategy
I don't think you know the definition of "Betrayel"
wtf there was a pact made already, what "strategy" are you talking about? this is just straight up betrayal
@@senzgura the pact was made when the power was equal, it was a pact between 2 equal powers, once bd o made enemies of everyone else and started becoming over streched then it was obvious the pact is gone. the main threat to breach of the pact would be a war, but there is not even any threat of that anymore because bd o is spent.
If they honor the pact they would instead help BD, I hope u don’t sit n watch ur brother be jumped n decide to jump him with them because he not considered equal to you now. But I guess that’s just out strategizing your brother who’s loves n trust you.
@@Kayoshu999 the pact was to keep peace between two superpowers and avoid a costly war.. once bd o overstretched then the balance of power went into the dragon's favor. dragon no longer need to keep the agreement and any threat of war is laughable now... so the agreement was over, also he spoke about the other 3 server getting betrayed by dragon, well the alternative would have been stuck in zone 1, and the only reward we want is revenge :) it was not inconceivable that we would have been stuck in zone 1 all season had the bdo/dragon pact lasted. they wanted to take everything, with t5 they melted us like butter.
I do not get call of dragons seems more toxic than rok itself lol. is it kvk there or a kingdom and if it is a kingdom fight and leave to a newer kingdom if it does not work honestly that looks like a very toxic situation to be imagen fighting against other severs with those guys lmao
all the blacked out names are visible lol
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Dragon have already screwed over S34 and didn't give them any rewards after being a major contributor to fighting blood in Z3. HAHAHAHA THE IRONY
Dragon does as Dragon does
34 was spoiled by themselves, they were beaten by BD and yet, almost all of 34's t5s joined BD, what's left of 34 is now in DAB, which is fighting side by side with DS, DA and NK, and everyone will have rewards, including GD participants, But unfortunately GD is an alliance with low activity, and their leader left the alliance to join BD yesterday.
@Chisgule this is actually funny... cuz it is very similar to my experiences as diplomat in ROK.... and looking at these messages and reading all of them 1 by 1... i can litterally agree with everything u just made... cuz there is no information about it to what the hell is going on...
now i can tell 1 thing that i have played call of dragons... the game is (kinda) still new. and there is so many unexperienced players that will take advantage and lie about their experiences in the game... now here is some teaching for all the newbs
Diplomat (ROK/COD) - you or your comrades are the information center, you posses the knowledge than anyone else and u take the responsibility as an diplomat to take full control of heated conversations and find solutions for both parties (alliances/family) find a good deal/proposal.
now u might be confusing with the leader as a diplomat... but no... the leader of alliance is to meant so that all officers or members arent violating any rules set by the leader himself or ancestor before him... making him the alliance engine car. but its also not bad idea to contact the leader to start a conversation
now keep in mind. watching from 30:16 to 41:20 timestamp. and reading all the information what is given. i can come to conclude that Max and other officers might be new or young to the game despite them of being whales who spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars/money to become strong... i know this from ROK where some ppl spent their savings from their parents credit cards or uses allowance from their parents to buy stuff in ROK... if thats the case with max... where they havent given alot information about it... then i can safe to say that there is no point talking to a wall.
not to mention about their reply speed. their speed is so slow taking few days if not weeks to actually get a response from the team itself. if their officers arent responding. then the alliance is safe to say dead...
*i dont want to make this video but my alliance mates want infos* - no i dont want to make clicks with drama lol
Lying through your teeth, BD is full of elitist clowns LOOOOOOOOL
You tell a great half truth. Funny you didn’t mention throwing a bunch of subs away at the end of season 1 or doing the same in the middle of season 1+. When you make the rest of your server hate you, this is the best case scenario for you. Try being better to the rest of your server ❤
This is as incorrect as DFs claims.
There was never an agreement promising sub alliances a valuable spot in the upcoming season. Please provide evidence proving otherwise
Well - the only subs that were cut were the ones that didn’t push power , or weren’t very active . Also some of the subs cut were because of their R5’s freaking out over dumb stuff . No one to blame but yourself or your R5’s - how do you expect Blood leaders to make 700+ people happy ? Impossible! So they cut them from the family ….
@@rubblerswell put
What the other truth?
subs that didnt do anything and were part time farmers
Todavía les acuesta aceptar la perdida
I am currently 24m power in sss1-25 and I see players with 50+ million power with maxed out heroes/artifacts and t5 and they can just dominate the field. F2p or low spending players don’t even have a chance no matter how much time they put in because they are maybe a year behind those whales/krakens and it’s caused multiple players to quit the game and honestly I don’t even stand a chance with 3 other players with the same power against one of those t5 players it’s extremely frustrating feeling powerless against those players and I’m thinking about quitting or taking a break until something is done to help balance the game (this won’t happen because the developers make too much money off of those players to care about f2p or low spenders).
This feel so sad tho, If i were in the blood side i will also feel disappointed and betrayed especially from your family that you're just trying to respect and help
Yes, it's very disappointing.
Chisgule, you’re in the wrong field. You should be an attorney because your proof and facts are ridiculously good! Great content as always 👏🏼
From my experience in ROK & COD, Chisgule comes off very nice, almost to the point of Naivety, it'd be really easy to sugar coat my words and then lead him into a backstab. Just playing devils advocate, I hope you guys just decide to drop a few racks and stomp them out
And here I thought my server had great drama... Holy.... That was intense
Even though I quit RoS and CoD for financial reasons (related to a newborn entering my life :) ), I still love keeping up to date. I wish i was still in the Trenches in Blood Family!
I’m in s31. Very happy with the unity and success of DX and Jedi amongst others against Bx and Nephisto.
had same problem with a jumper in rok kd 3053. We had Europe group with big whales and Chinese group with big whales. They were very difficult to reach out to and betrayed our agreements with no reason and portrayed to other alliances like we were the bad guys however all went well at the end as they finally agreed to join our family after fighting us which was pointless lol.
I have the impression that BD outsmarted Dragon by recruiting and postitioning itself from the beginning without violating the agreement displayed. BD intent was clearly not friendly towards DS or, at least, the results caused by its actions damaged DS. Chisgule knows what happens if whales dont fight for too long periods.
I hope DS share it's point of view, because I have only access to what I had to endure in Burning Lands. The only thing that becomes clearer is that there are no saints in here.
I really wish people knew how these conquest games were so close to similar political media like game of thrones or other shows about feudal politics
So you put 3 servers in one starting zone and 6 bdo alliances took 2 starting zones? In the season where there is less behemots... and now you want to find allies amoung those 3 servers? That is hillarious :D. Have you watched game of thrones? Are you still suprised dragons have betrayed you? :D
Hi from 167 chis! So glad to see more of your content and server!
You can give GD recognition. It’s ok lol. We aren’t as strong but we can fight like a MOFO.
And after all that fighting dragon didn't give you anything and youre bleeding players because of it, Was it really worth trusting betrayers?
@@NikodayneI don’t respect dragon but what choice did they have lmao, you expect 3 servers not to hold a grudge after being stuck in a zone
TwB Better 😂😂😂
@@markb5747 nah
@@NikodayneYou say Dragon didn't give us anything, but you're wrong. All we wanted was for BD to lose.
So my thoughts are that the situation might be ok if Sean comes back but that is very unlikely. I hope that things may get talked out. Language barrier is sooo frustrating in diplomacy.
As a doctor who plays cod, other diplomats i encounter in the game, do not feel like responsible and normal mentally abled adults. Most of the time i feel like I’m talking to kids. I understand your frustration so much brother😂
taking 2 starting zones was a joke, you literally prevented DS and DA from having a fight in the neutral zone, Forgotten Lands, as well as pushing all other alliances into an overpopulated region.
"three servers are in burning lands, and they need to figure out how to be allies so they can fight blood family and dragon family" is what you said at 13:12 you know chisgule, you literally beat up several alliances in Sofrostia, and all of them had to migrate to burning lands, and those that were already in burning lands had to endure the lack of space in a region, where it was impossible to farm and develop the territory . With all these things, why do you think these alliances would try to fight the dragon family? it is logical that everyone would unite to ally with the dragon family, and in this way destroy BD, who did all this dirty work with them by taking 2 zones for you.
BDO took almost all of the t5 from the other servers, the ones left remained on GD and DAB, all willing to destroy BD, you know that, and this is all a consequence of you having taken 2 early zones.
First of all I want to say we as BD suffered the same farming,territory,space problems in s1,to many alliances landing in one zone making it impossible to farm effectively so we know your pain.
It's not on us as BD to design the map to fit everyone in,it's the job of the devs to create enough zones for everyone to land in.
We can't change your situation because we have about 6 alliances full of players who need farming space too.
What we do now?
Ofc we chose to land in 2 zones to have enough space available,before the server merge we communicated to GD,server 46 and 48 where we would land and that their only zone to land in is burning lands ,server 46 and 48 followed our suggestion Nk and 34 didn't and they paid the price for their decision.
Hope I could help to clarify ❤
@@AquaBDF so you are justifying having 2 starting zones with "we have 6 alliances " who need to farm?! ofc, poor you, you need to farm, other 3 servers can farm in 1 staring zone, thats enough for them... what a joke man... and on top of that you recruit most of 5 players from those 3 servers so we were even more weakened... tons of ppl quit, most original groups disband, and surporise, surpise - 3 servers hold a grudge against blood alliances
@@AquaBDF you trapped 3 whole servers in 1 tiny zone, more than 80 alliance strongholds in 1 zone, while the other 3 had 15 max, you trapped several strong alliances like NK, TwB, BLB, BLA, GD and some others in BL, you cultivated the revolt of all these players, forcing them to stay in a prison called BL, at the same time that you decided to keep 5 regions, Daralan, sofrostia, nuvola, caltia and holendale. moreover, Daralan? serious? you literally took a zone and prevented people from other servers from joining Daralan and advancing to Forgotten Lands to fight DS and DA, leaving them without a fight for almost 1 month, it's obvious they would get bored, you took away any chance to fight that they had.
moreover, the alliances whose t5s left them and went to BD were extremely frustrated with the departure of their whales, so they are being treated with disdain, because in addition to being defeated and humiliated by BD, they also went to the side of the enemy and attacked their old alliances... if there's something worse than that I don't know what it is, and that added to the previous arrest causes a huge revolt in these players, you're lucky, if z3 was bigger, they wouldn't have only 5 alliances against you, but 60.
you reap what you sow, and you sowed revolt in several BL players, I am one of them, my old alliance (D/D) got stuck in BL, after you kicked out sophrostia and daralan players, it got crowded here and had no resource points to collect, generating even more revolt in the players.
all this could have been avoided if you followed the plan by everyone which was what was released and agreed, that you would go to sofrostia while the other servers would go to Daralan and BL, but no, you put them in a prison, you created a monster , and now this monster is devouring you.
Trapped three servers into one zone by taking two when you should have only taken 1 like DS AND took in all of our hated players from our server.
Comical the crying now from BD like they were betrayed. You said fck you to 3 entire servers from the beginning. No, fck you.
Love watching these tears from the previous egomaniacs. Now all claiming to be victims. 😂😂😂😂 Gtfoh hypocrites
@@77Vasco77 The betrayal has nothing to do with the other servers. We never made a deal with the other servers, we'd fight them and we did fight them and win.
DS betrayed us is the sole focus of the video, you're going off topic.
Reading this comment section makes me wonder how much these east asian/ South east asian alliances betray, for example in 2642 we had this vietnamese. main alliance and they honestly were so chaotic and racist. And during kvk they betrayed a ally who was helping us invade another vietnamese king in kvk, So we took opportunity and started a civil war it went well then downhill, Following our defeat we just skirmished. After LK ended they cut of our territory, But we managed to zero many of them, We eventually lost and migrated to KD 2641. But we crippled them so badly that today speaking they are struggling to maintain 6milliln total power for the main alliance😂
This R4 diplomat is 100% a good one 😂
dragon family leadership/ diplomats are hands down the worst kind of leaders. I hope the dragon family will get it together before Blood family wipes them off the map along with all their little server lackeys.
Ive had this experience with some Korean kingdoms in RoK. Almost identical tbh. Some of them were great all around. Fighting diplo etc. but others hated the fact foreigners had power so much that they eventually just went rogue and burned all our cities in zone 3 while we slept. By the time we all were aware of what was going on it was too late and the people we were friends with on their side couldnt do anything but watch.
A lot of betrayals happen in this game
Truuuuuue
@@Chisgule guys you protected and even gave resources on the regular yet they switch at the first sign an enemy may be stronger. I’m playing mean from now on 😂
I've seen diplo go horribly, especially when it involves diplomacy with a top alliance in a region or server. Compared to smaller alliances, many high power members in top alliances think they might be above "the law" in a sense, and will simply attack when they want, even after being warned by r4s hours earlier to stop. The comparison between the diplomacy I saw in a smaller alliance I was in and a larger alliance I was in is huge.
Moon family(36) betrayed server 35 aswell lmao, too many betrayal on this season
If I spent 15k just to encounter this bs, I woild be livid. I listen to U.S. diplomats speak about relations with China and they share your frustration. Thanks for the vid.
What you said toward the end of the video is exactly what we ended up doing lol we’re now part of BD
Welcome to the smash squad
Lets go!finally, thanks for this video to clarify all the propaganda and misinformation
BD ❤
My alliance got disbanded by a traitor and then he joined the enemy
Oooof gg
Betrayal is endemic in CoD. To the extent it's the culture. Alliances also kick individuals out at the drop of a hat.
As long as Fairlight doesn't lose players, there will be no change in gameplay.
As sad as this is it makes me a little happier my alliance wasn't the only one betrayed this season.
Here's to hoping we all get decent allies next season(s)
This is why i stop playing games with this genre or part of leadership. Drama is fun until you became a part of it. Soooo time consumimg 😢
Do you complain like this to your wife as well? 😂
I get that this is your “job” but really none of this matters and isn’t worth complaining like a school girl about
Anyone trying to join a mega alliance should get smashed to dust and betrayed routinely just like this, well done for promoting war over farmville dragon fam.
hating mega alliances because you don't qualify to join it
You repeatedly say that Dragon will give nothing to their new allies, all those allies wanted was to play the game in a way they didn't get absolutely slaughtered.
Lack of communication is what caused it, if a diplomat wants war then they will be distant. And purposely muddy the waters.
Gotta say their planning was epic there were able to convince you that they were bored 😂 I mean it’s messed up but their tactics worked
Truly disappointing that dragon has done this
What's dissapointing is blood family forcing 3 servers in one z1 and not letting the expand foh
There using there whales to bully every server they merge with this just a taste of there medicine and all the tears falling from there eyes is medicine
@@Kp77-f8yThey literally offered to give the zone for free to the 3 servers lol Wtf you smoking?
@@Setsu1606 three entire SERVERS forced into one zone when one ALLIANCE takes two entire zones to themselves and that's a gift? Wtf you smoking.
BD created three servers worth of animosity towards themselves before the season started. Dug your own graves
21:41 that transparent blackening, i cant XD
Interesting 🤔 Maybe This is something common for chinese leadership? I don't mean to be racist but we had the same experience in mir4 where chinese people who we allied with betrayed us.