Arid Swales Update 20 Months After First Planting

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  • @charleshughbryan5603
    @charleshughbryan5603 2 роки тому +19

    Great video !
    I'm in Concho, Arizona in the high desert, building permacuture, swales and aquaphonic greenhouse house to use the 14" of annual precipitation that I harvest.
    I'm digging a pond and the soil that I remove is used for my flexible form rammed earth buildings.
    I'm a retired mechanical engineer and waited for 30 years to start the building of my greenest off the grid property. I finally get to see what I'll be when I grow up !
    Your work is is inspiring to many and great to see this video.
    Good luck !

    • @charleshughbryan5603
      @charleshughbryan5603 6 місяців тому +1

      @@NickOutside
      Hi,
      I've had an aneurysm repaired so I've been recovering from surgery and finally released two months ago.
      The antique tractor broke and my son found parts to repair it hopefully soon so I can get back to work.
      I was instructed not to lift over ten pounds while recovering.
      My solar system and greenhouse have kept me busy and repairing fence to keep the ranchers cows out are ongoing.
      I'm rebuilding my truck while recuperating also.
      I hope to get going on construction after finally finding the correct mix for sand bags.
      My root cellar and Sauna collapsed due to not enough sand and cement. I'll rebuild them this month.
      Good luck on your build as well.

  • @hkay980
    @hkay980 Рік тому +3

    This has become a template for desert re-greening...this guy will be watched over a thousand years

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Рік тому +1

      I hope so. Converting deserts that get rainfall back to productive, comfortable drylands using well-chosen pioneer species (as Neal has done) and earthworks (as Neal has done) is not a difficult thing.

  • @netrabantawa3439
    @netrabantawa3439 2 роки тому +1

    Keep the good work going 👍 good luck

  • @SuerteDelMolinoFarm
    @SuerteDelMolinoFarm 2 роки тому +1

    Greetings from the LooseNatural farm in Andalusia

  • @ThoneJones
    @ThoneJones Рік тому +1

    I’d love to see an update on the project.

  • @rcwarship
    @rcwarship 10 років тому +6

    Neal, thank you so much for taking the time to update us with what is happening. I really appreciate your work and especially your excellent observations & explanations.
    Thanks Again& Best Regards,
    Jon

  • @EcosystemDesignConsulting
    @EcosystemDesignConsulting 9 років тому +24

    This project is epic! Following with huge interest.

  • @dylanpowell9157
    @dylanpowell9157 9 років тому +19

    Keep sequestering that water and building those wind breaks, your project looks to be coming along wonderfully! Your work is extremely informative and inspiring to say the least. It truly is amazing how resilient nature can be with some energy put in the right direction.

    • @Jean-vz8co
      @Jean-vz8co 6 років тому

      Bien juste Dylan, cela montre comme il existe un grand nombre de plantes et arbres favorables et très utiles pour ce genre de développement!!.. Bravo! Bravo...

  • @upresins
    @upresins 2 роки тому +9

    As an erstwhile resident of the UAE, I request you also consider planting the Madras Thorn / Manila Tamarind / Bread & Cheese tree (Pithecellobium dulce, Inga dulcis, Mimosa dulcis) on the swales. These grow rather well in desert environments, the tree is thorny and the fruit tastes good too. Birds congregate and help in dispersion.
    Hope this info could be of some use in your noble endeavour.

    • @charleshughbryan5603
      @charleshughbryan5603 6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the information and I'll look into buying some as I'm building a food forest here.

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 4 роки тому +12

    I love this. I am fascinated by the idea of turning deserts into forests and jungles. By doing so it can get to a point where its self-sustaining.

    • @elhajjmalikel6266
      @elhajjmalikel6266 3 роки тому +1

      Same here. I'd love to be apart of a project where we take the most arid and remote desert(s) and start greening projects in them. I feel that HAARP technology and those vehicles they use to create artificial clouds would work excellent on these projects. That would be very rewarding to make those lands very habitable and also help those that live in these dry, desolate regions have more stability with more usable land and access to water.

  • @lukes5461
    @lukes5461 10 років тому +11

    I'm so impressed with this project. It's great looking back at your Young Desert Swale Walkthrough video from last year to see the difference-seeing how the Moringas were still just sticks in the ground with a few sprouts.

  • @roopnarainpersaud1177
    @roopnarainpersaud1177 4 роки тому +2

    You are proving that desertification can come under control. I appreciate the update, which is usually lacking

  • @downbntout
    @downbntout 4 роки тому +3

    So promising. Looks to me like it's all coming along on plan. So much life in a little ground moisture

  • @TheVirginiaExperimentDetroit
    @TheVirginiaExperimentDetroit 10 років тому +9

    Can't wait to see further updates!! Keep up the great work!

  • @Mrbfgray
    @Mrbfgray 4 роки тому +13

    VERY interesting and encouraging. Hope to see a lot more of this.

  • @paintur68
    @paintur68 9 років тому +105

    I love to seethe desert bloom. All the money the oil rich countries in the middle East...and yet so few projects like this. If I was an oil rich sheik, I would use my fortune to make the desert green.

    • @Ptitnain2
      @Ptitnain2 9 років тому +7

      +paintur68 They usually prefer to invest in Europe, their money is more secure that way.

    • @paintur68
      @paintur68 9 років тому +16

      Samuel Desjardins Making the desert green benefits all.....keeping your nation's wealth in a foreign bank benefits only the owner of the bank account.........selfishness defined.

    • @TheKlink
      @TheKlink 8 років тому +9

      given the prevalence of cheap labour over there, installing one of these and having it farmed round the clock would be really rather cheap for them. the most likely thing is that it's never occurred to the majority of them.

    • @007hansen
      @007hansen 6 років тому +4

      It's all just a question of energy: You need lot's of water to get started and the soil and trees take lots of time.
      Sell that to quick ROI oriented people.

    • @oabuseer
      @oabuseer 6 років тому +2

      nafia morris You are an absolute idiot. The Middle East has some of the highest percentages of immigrant populations in the world. 32% of Saudi Arabia are immigrants. Qatar is 74%. And the United Arab Emirates is the highest in the WORLD with almost 84% of it's population being immigrants. There are more EUROPEANS in the UAE than native Emiratis! But people like you will never find an issue with that because of your hatred for brown people. Fuck you.

  • @LitoGeorge
    @LitoGeorge 6 років тому +4

    I indeed enjoyed watching. Thank YOU very much. I wish you all the success in the world

  • @BrothersAroundTheCampfire
    @BrothersAroundTheCampfire 6 років тому +3

    Good work man! We need more people like you! Thank you

  • @user-wy4mp9ts3u
    @user-wy4mp9ts3u Рік тому +1

    Casarina,there are hundreds of varieties getting the right one for your climate is key.Australia is dry but not cold in winter I suspect that is your problem or they may have dried out when roots where very shallow

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 4 роки тому +26

    Al Baydha project location: 21°03'05.44" N 39°54'10.87" E - it is extremely hard to find without these exact coordinates.
    You can follow the site's progress using Google Earth, and witness the transformation of what was a wasteland.

    • @JasonBryanIsAwesome
      @JasonBryanIsAwesome 4 роки тому +2

      Just search the plus code: 3W23+J6 Al Abar Saudi Arabia

    • @theradiounderground7298
      @theradiounderground7298 4 роки тому

      Thanks

    • @pabloyammix
      @pabloyammix 3 роки тому

      thankyou so much por the coordinates! i was eeager to find it so i could see more of the progress :)

    • @agustinadwia4077
      @agustinadwia4077 3 роки тому

      @@pabloyammix do you information update until now? thank you 🙏

    • @anondeilvers91
      @anondeilvers91 2 роки тому

      Appreciate it man, much love

  • @brianquinn5060
    @brianquinn5060 7 років тому +6

    love what you are doing,love more updates.

  • @colinjavens5035
    @colinjavens5035 10 років тому +8

    Great progress. Well done and thank you for the update.

  • @reb4898
    @reb4898 8 років тому +2

    Congratulations on your successes. I do not think we can appreciate the harshness and the fact that people live in these environs. Looking forward to more updates...

  • @bertvanbrakel5203
    @bertvanbrakel5203 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your very interesting survey over the Al Baydha swales. And what a variety of trees you have planted! All with the permaculture knowledge. It's a pity that so many trees died although there was drip irrigation.
    My advice to you is to check out the possible use of the dutch invention bij Groasis: the waterboxx ( a plastic watercontainer especially for planting trees, or the biodegradable GrowBoxx plant cocoon. With this tree planting systeem you can plant very small tree saplings, which are protected and watered by the growbox for the first 1-2 years. Advantage is that you don't have to give any water after the initial filling/planting . The small tree is continuously receiving a little amount of water by the boxx and is seeking deeper watersources by itself. It gives a survivalrate of about 80-90%. I think that especially the biodegradable boxx might fit in your ecologically friendly permaculture concept. When you visit the website of Groasis you can check their planting results all over the world.( some in very degraded soil)
    I wish you much success with your project!

  • @JBFromOZ
    @JBFromOZ 7 років тому +2

    fantastic results! massive area under restoration there! my own project is much smaller, and not so dry while still being drylands! thanks for sharing

  • @benbishop7775
    @benbishop7775 9 років тому +6

    Looking forward to the next update!

  • @davidchristensen6908
    @davidchristensen6908 4 роки тому +1

    This kind of recovery planting and planing is so exciting. I would like to see this in 2020. Will have to search for it.

  • @AtlasReburdened
    @AtlasReburdened 6 років тому +2

    Outstanding amount of information. Thank you for sharing.

  • @FoolishOptimistPrime
    @FoolishOptimistPrime 9 років тому +11

    I would love to see another update.

    • @sanben2397
      @sanben2397 6 років тому

      FoolishOptimistPrime ñ

  • @FoolishOptimistPrime
    @FoolishOptimistPrime 9 років тому +8

    You've done amazing work here. Do you have another update video planned?

  • @PimpMyTeamShowdown
    @PimpMyTeamShowdown 10 років тому +8

    awesome! i have been waiting for this, it seems your project is going well!

  • @synalag
    @synalag 8 років тому +3

    Quelle réalisation merveilleuse ! Félicitations !

  • @timypp2894
    @timypp2894 4 роки тому +4

    Good work . Great to see.
    I wonder if you could " green" the tall hills/ mountain somehow, so it can hold water back. Then eventually streams coming off it. That would be amazing.

  • @andreaberryman5354
    @andreaberryman5354 Рік тому +4

    You DO have to soak trees thoroughly on a regular basis through their first growing season, or yeah-they die in an arid climate. After that, you're good! This sure will be pretty once mature!

  • @CannaHeaven
    @CannaHeaven 9 років тому +3

    Great job guys. I would recommend IF possible, to rip that soil @ 9:40 before the floods come.
    This helps to increase your soils total collection area and helps the water quickly go back into the ground.
    In my country which is a semi arid island, we rip our Dams before the rain comes once a year and I've seen amazing results in my wells since they started doing that.

  • @AtomicSaunders
    @AtomicSaunders 7 років тому +18

    This was in 2014. I'm curious how it's going?

    • @FilthyGaijin
      @FilthyGaijin 3 роки тому +1

      You can see a whole documentary.
      They uploaded 9 months ago

  • @usamaizm
    @usamaizm 10 років тому +23

    Please post some more videos, Neal.

  • @davefranco1473
    @davefranco1473 6 років тому +2

    Awesome work!

  • @ashleyjsmith1769
    @ashleyjsmith1769 9 років тому +23

    Do you have an update ? I would like to know if you had any rain this winter !

  • @armstada000
    @armstada000 9 років тому +30

    You need mulch lot and lots of mulch

    • @ikaruseijin01
      @ikaruseijin01 9 років тому +16

      +adam armstrong They're starting from zero, so the mulch is sparse but it will increase as their plants grow bigger and drop more organic material. If they hauled in mulch they'd do better right off the bat, but then they'd not be experiencing a real world "start from scratch" project, and they'd miss important lessons. Like they probably were surprised that the casuarina trees did so poorly. Now they know, so for the next person starting from scratch will not depend as much on the casuarina trees, maybe bring them in after other things get better established and the soil moisture increases. Or maybe they'll be able to breed a better casuarina from the seed collecting. Either way.
      So it's slow and frustrating but in the end it will be better for the project that it not depend on too much outside resources beyond the seedlings.

    • @armstada000
      @armstada000 9 років тому +4

      I didn't know that a from scratch start was a requirement of this project

    • @ikaruseijin01
      @ikaruseijin01 9 років тому +9

      adam armstrong It may not be a mandated requirement, but it's better to do it that way if you're trying to introduce a sustainable agricultural method to a region using only local resources. That way you work out the bugs first and you can then share with people what really does work.
      It's a slow start but it will build in momentum as time progresses.

    • @armstada000
      @armstada000 9 років тому +5

      Like I said I was unaware of the methodology being used in it. However, personally speaking if I could land some cheap much I would do so. I just don't have the patience to wait that long. I do however understand the methodology your using for this project.

    • @Ptitnain2
      @Ptitnain2 9 років тому +1

      +adam armstrong Seems hard to see some material down there that could provide mulch...

  • @manuelbettencourt4213
    @manuelbettencourt4213 7 років тому +3

    Try planting a Digger Pine if you want a desert pine

  • @ERSUN1000
    @ERSUN1000 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing to see a tree in the desert. I hope that you can care them until they become fully grown.

  • @user-wy4mp9ts3u
    @user-wy4mp9ts3u Рік тому

    Hay about date palms if you can get your hands on some fully grown palm trees they can be transplanted and a trench can be dug as deep as the tree is tall and placed in it and they will grow because the moisture level at depth will be much much greater than on the surface.The date palm is unique in that it can sprout roots all the way up its trunk

  • @robduell3856
    @robduell3856 5 років тому +1

    A nice 5 years update would be great

  • @colly7963
    @colly7963 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, it's so inspiring to see this. I live in Jeddah and love to go up to Taif when I can. There are also some beautiful local trees I've seen growing in the area, like acacias and junipers, maybe they could have potential for future projects?

  • @davedrewett2196
    @davedrewett2196 9 років тому +5

    Congratulations on a huge effort so far. I'm curious to know exactly which species of casuarina you are trying to grow ?

  • @IngriddenDigre
    @IngriddenDigre 10 років тому +6

    Hi, This is such an interesting project to follow, and you're doing an amazing job all of you! I had a question about your calculations of how much water you've harvested. (I asked this in an older video, but posted it three days ago). Considering the heat and how open the area is, is evaporation included in the calculations? I would guess that a lot of water evaporates, but hopefully more sinks into the aquifers. Keep up the excellent work and I'm looking forward to new updates! (Loved seeing all the changes with the newest video)

  • @0514mama
    @0514mama 5 років тому

    Trees look fantastic - congratulations.

  • @simontyrrell8866
    @simontyrrell8866 2 роки тому

    Hi Neal, I think the work that you are doing is amazing and should be replicated over many arid zones. Please keep up the good work, it is hugely important. I have one very very small observation to make though, why not use the proper Linnaean nomenclature - upper case for Genus, lower case for species. There is a reason that this is important, it is so that people know exactly what you mean, for example when you have named your drought tolerant strains you can call them var or subspecies and everyone will know what you mean and that they are different from others in their species

  • @cloud9land
    @cloud9land 3 роки тому

    Do t give up on the causurinas,, I think you need to plant all the trees when they are a lot younger, say, 1 foot high. They adapt better when they are younger, if they are left too long in the pot, they get pot bound and also get too used to “nursery growing conditions”. I’d love to come over and help you, I admire what you are doing and I so wish I could be a part of it but keep up the fight I think you and your team are doing an excellent job👍🏻👍🏻🏆🏆🏆❤️❤️❤️

  • @BornShining
    @BornShining 4 роки тому +1

    Lets get an update!

  • @kwlweapons
    @kwlweapons 6 років тому

    Any Updates, loving the project.

  • @kwlweapons
    @kwlweapons 7 років тому +1

    Updates would be nice...

  • @brianvittachi6869
    @brianvittachi6869 10 місяців тому

    How about digging a long swale at the base of that mountain bordering the property?

  • @lilfrankietellez
    @lilfrankietellez 3 роки тому +1

    So how’s it going now?

  • @abdiduale1442
    @abdiduale1442 2 роки тому +1

    Prosorpis tree is very adoptible for dry land ,but it invensive, will tale over all dry river and valleys ,will have negative impact to agricultural and rangeland.

  • @marazulization
    @marazulization 4 роки тому

    I would love a video in how this amazing project is doing now, thanks !

  • @harriskhan7671
    @harriskhan7671 4 роки тому

    thank you sir but on 8 :22 area what about just for just greenery planting Australian eucalyptus trees just a suggestion

  • @adlaal8861
    @adlaal8861 9 місяців тому

    Every how often do you water these desert tree .?

  • @technus102
    @technus102 5 років тому +1

    Very cool

  • @AlvaroFrancoZ
    @AlvaroFrancoZ 6 років тому +1

    Please do an update on the section that starts at 6:48. Awesome comparison. Would highly appreciate it.

  • @dawienatral7083
    @dawienatral7083 6 років тому

    Great video ,very interesting

  • @zachhodgson4113
    @zachhodgson4113 5 років тому

    You should use those open rock barriers as a kind of potted region. Get an Ivy and use the rocks as a kinda pot holder...

  • @vivekprabhu2651
    @vivekprabhu2651 6 років тому +1

    Amazing. Please try planting few trees on those barren mountains, may be with help of Waterboxx. Once it is possible to get trees on those mountains you will get more amazing results at plains.

  • @thefoodforestnamibia
    @thefoodforestnamibia 8 років тому +1

    Well done!! Anny updates?

  • @feel7251
    @feel7251 6 років тому +1

    it has been 5 years since your last update please release a new video

    • @albaydha702
      @albaydha702  6 років тому

      Kevin working on it, but check the instagram page: instagram.com/al_baydha

  • @deannacalef3513
    @deannacalef3513 3 роки тому

    My Aunty tried so hard to get the land to come back in north eastern Arizona, USA. Her cousin had a backhoe that could have made the swells. There was a well up the road that could have provided a source for a drip line.
    She was on the right track.

  • @almeidacheang7853
    @almeidacheang7853 Рік тому +1

    please more LIKES folks,lets help

  • @KeepOnSmashing
    @KeepOnSmashing 4 роки тому +16

    If only they had the funding to keep going. This is with years of neglect.

  • @greeneyeddevil1
    @greeneyeddevil1 4 роки тому +1

    Have you thought about using the Groasis system in in tandem with the swales and drip lines?

  • @gategi10
    @gategi10 Рік тому

    how about support plants alongside individual trees

  • @badgardener
    @badgardener 4 роки тому

    Inspirational. Are there recent updates?

  • @nobody_8_1
    @nobody_8_1 4 роки тому +1

    Great!

  • @tutulick
    @tutulick 9 років тому +1

    How come you don't continously place a thick layer of fresh mulch all the time? Is it bad for the drip line to be under a bed of mulch?

    • @HelenBennett57
      @HelenBennett57 5 років тому

      From my gardening experience, I'd guess this: if the soil is moist on top (like mulch would make it) then roots would grow near to the surface and be very vulnerable. Like this, the roots will have to grow down deep and they will be much more resilient in the future, when the drip line has gone.

    • @gracemccaughey8127
      @gracemccaughey8127 4 роки тому

      But where do you get this mulch from?

  • @randlerobbertson8792
    @randlerobbertson8792 3 роки тому

    Surprised your not usung dry boxes too. Proven to work and a good alternative to your drip irragation.

  • @Broadway10past10
    @Broadway10past10 2 роки тому

    congratulations 🎉

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 4 роки тому +1

    I would love to see this while it's raining.

  • @AmerijamAcres
    @AmerijamAcres 7 років тому +1

    Are you still doing this. It's been a long time since an update. Would really like to see how things are progressing.

    • @albaydha702
      @albaydha702  7 років тому +1

      Should have an update before the end of the winter.

    • @AmerijamAcres
      @AmerijamAcres 7 років тому +1

      Al Baydha that's fantastic! I'm excited to see the progress. Would like to see more regular updates but I understand how difficult that can be sometimes.

  • @WizzleThump
    @WizzleThump 10 років тому +5

    AWESOME VIDEO!! Also appreciate the length of the video and the time from the last one! One question I've been itching to ask... How the heck did you get started doing this over there?? lol

  • @fieldagent59isintheforest32
    @fieldagent59isintheforest32 5 років тому

    anyone who has hair like that at the end of the video is a rebel with a cause........ great work.!!

  • @jaquilinreston1727
    @jaquilinreston1727 5 років тому +2

    Update on this project please

  • @crohkorthreetoes3821
    @crohkorthreetoes3821 4 роки тому +1

    way to go

  • @ianrobinson8974
    @ianrobinson8974 4 роки тому

    10/06/2020. A great start to a massive project. What is happening now in 2020?

  • @s.brouwer5264
    @s.brouwer5264 5 років тому +1

    Great to see !
    Very complete and interesting qua naming the used trees and the way they live and are used in arid areas.
    Makes me really want to be involved in this , some way, but of course everything got destroyed to the ground by now by BHO ,HRC and their allies .
    May they and their offspring be cursed , unto thousand generations !

  • @agustinadwia4077
    @agustinadwia4077 3 роки тому

    how about now ? better and more green?🙏 thank you

  • @almeidacheang7853
    @almeidacheang7853 4 роки тому

    any new photos of the place,thanks

  • @sabriyyaabdur-rauf1708
    @sabriyyaabdur-rauf1708 10 років тому +4

    Mabrook, I appreciate the update. Are you still planning your November tree planting project. Would love to participate, God-willing.

  • @joaovox
    @joaovox 7 років тому +1

    How many times, each year, have these swales been filling up and spilling? Once or twice each year? Thank you.

    • @albaydha702
      @albaydha702  5 років тому +1

      Hello Joao--we have gone as long as 30 months with no precipitation since starting. We had no rain from April 2016-February 2018, but it rained last year twice, and this year so far once. Had 70 mm of rainfall a couple weeks ago.

    • @solartonytony5868
      @solartonytony5868 4 роки тому +1

      @@albaydha702 what were the large existing trees w/ trunks the size of a oil barrel that the local folks cut down ? ...have you collected the tree names ? ...peace

  • @almeidacheang7853
    @almeidacheang7853 4 роки тому

    wind blow,you can use rocks to put in the top, of mulching

  • @محمدالش-ه8ط
    @محمدالش-ه8ط 4 роки тому

    شجرة كولياتا ..شجرة الارطا... معروفه ف الخليج العربي وهيه مفيدة .. والشجرة السابقة ف الخليج العربي تعتبرضارة وغيرمفيدة وتجمع الزواحف والقوارض ... لازم نتشارك ونتعاون في مايخص النباتات الصحراوية جميعنا لدينا اصناف غير معروفة للاخر ... شكرا"👍

  • @harryfire411
    @harryfire411 4 роки тому

    In the American southwest any two foot green plants like you have there are likely to get whacked by a jackrabbit and needs fencing

  • @simanba
    @simanba 4 роки тому

    So what is it like now? and what are the biggest lessons taken from the mistakes of this project? did it cost to much money/did it not create economic returns for the people involved?

    • @simanba
      @simanba 4 роки тому

      Is there a case study available?

  • @gggreggg
    @gggreggg 7 років тому +3

    wouldn't Groasis be worth working wity??

    • @albaydha702
      @albaydha702  5 років тому

      Too expensive--at 10 dollars a pop, any kind of volume is going to be prohibitive.

  • @user-wy4mp9ts3u
    @user-wy4mp9ts3u Рік тому

    Try spinifex grass it is tough once established and there is a famous plant here called a salt bush it is the best and tough

  • @theresadailey5809
    @theresadailey5809 5 років тому

    Put the mulch down and cover it with rocks around the trees will hold in moisture and nutrients, was this soil tested before you started this project ?

  • @bellathecockatoo1350
    @bellathecockatoo1350 6 років тому

    was that land originally forest?

  • @johne7123
    @johne7123 4 роки тому

    amazing

  • @nigelkavanagh2048
    @nigelkavanagh2048 4 роки тому

    Great vid, have you tried sea buckthorn? Very useful food source and other multi uses. Good luck.

  • @superjeffstanton
    @superjeffstanton 6 років тому +1

    Why no other plants grasses flowers planted they would help for sure.

  • @navneetsahay196
    @navneetsahay196 3 роки тому

    First step is creating a steppe like grass land in place Use helicopter spray to create grassy land Then attempt planting hedges shrubs like duranta and henna and only then plant hardy trees like ziziphus Adirachta Indica