Current META Planes Designs & how to make them.

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • This video teaches you how to use the Hearts of Iron 4 air designer that come out with the new DLC "By Blood Alone".
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    Title: Current META Planes Designs & how to make them.
    Last Video: Everything you need to know about the air update!
    DLCs used: La Résistance, Man the Guns, Waking the Tiger, Death or Dishonor, Together for Victory, Battle for the Bosporus, No Step Back, By Blood Alone.
    0:00 - Intro
    Game: Hearts of Iron 4
    Hearts of Iron 4 is a 4X grand strategy video game developed by Paradox Interactive.
    #hoi4 #heartsofIron4 #bybloodalone

КОМЕНТАРІ • 121

  • @alexanderholt4679
    @alexanderholt4679 2 роки тому +306

    Best fighter is already found. Improved medium hull 4x4 HMG 5 armor playes level 3 quad engine. Beats anything

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому +22

      I'll give this one a test!

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому +102

      Just tested it, hands down that's the best 1940 fighter. It's not even close to the small designs like 2 to 1 exchanges... Seems to be hitting that sweet spot with agility/attack/defense.

    • @JorjiCostava-
      @JorjiCostava- 2 роки тому +54

      Which is stupid, because heavy fighters IRL sucked in the fighter role! Haha

    • @littlenightk
      @littlenightk 2 роки тому +20

      @@JorjiCostava- because they nerfed agility and fighters are supposed to be agile

    • @lerbronk
      @lerbronk 2 роки тому +67

      "fighter"
      "quad engines"
      yikes

  • @Pydgin
    @Pydgin  2 роки тому +25

    Here it is! The plane designer video! Let me know what kind of designs have been working for you. The strat and nav bombers listed at the end take a fair amount of losses if they get challenged so keep an eye on them.

  • @mikepilot1314
    @mikepilot1314 2 роки тому +59

    Personally, the best fighter design that has worked for me is:
    Medium Airframe
    Top row completely filled with 4x hmgs
    4 engines
    And the rest of the slots is taken up by armor plating or one slot allocated to strategic resources if you don’t have aluminum.

    • @endzor
      @endzor 2 роки тому +3

      Don't add anything else in the rest of the slots to save the ic

  • @DuckSwagington
    @DuckSwagington 2 роки тому +181

    I'm kinda disappointed that the only thing that matters now is just Air attack. It hasn't improved on the previous version where the only stat that mattered was agility. Hopefully PDX can rebalance the game so that Speed, Agility and Air Attack/Defense can all be useful but I doubt it.

    • @alexanderholt4679
      @alexanderholt4679 2 роки тому +6

      Air defence is king stat not air attack

    • @nveronline2914
      @nveronline2914 2 роки тому +17

      this is wrong on 2 fronts lol. air attack isnt the most important stat now. air attack speed air defense and agility are all now quite balanced with eachother. in the old meta the best fighter was 5 engine 5 attack 5 range.

  • @Openeyees
    @Openeyees 2 роки тому +10

    Finally i get why my cas designs looks like they get no ground attack, didnt realize i had to check the adjusters before this vid. Thanks!

  • @spindash64
    @spindash64 10 місяців тому

    I think they changed formulas again: speed doesn’t change with increasing weight, but agility does

  • @ender8887
    @ender8887 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much. Your videos are very helpful and I always learn from you. I hope PDX, changes a bit the air combat as air attack is the only useful Stat now. They should strike a balance.

  • @splatsma
    @splatsma 2 роки тому +3

    I have a lot of trouble intercepting enemy bombers, heavy fighters just do not work it feels like. As Germany I had air superiority over france, but my attack totally stalled at the Ardennes because my logi was entirely bombed into the ground..

  • @VeganerHippie
    @VeganerHippie 2 роки тому +10

    Does Speed play a role in Air Combat? And how important is Agility now after the update?

    • @quincyames2014
      @quincyames2014 2 роки тому +2

      not at all just max damage

    • @endzor
      @endzor 2 роки тому

      Less agility -> lost battle, same agility but less speed -> lost battle.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому +2

      agility / def / attack are the stats you want to maximize

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому

      @@endzor less agility is more losses for sure

    • @quincyames2014
      @quincyames2014 2 роки тому

      @@Pydgin nah agility dosen't really matter

  • @ChalleonPlays
    @ChalleonPlays 2 роки тому

    Thanks for getting these videos out so quick

  • @usual.suspect109
    @usual.suspect109 Рік тому +1

    I think Drop Tanks are very good, i use them on every plane bc it improves the range.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 10 місяців тому

      The US especially wants the extra reach on its fighters

  • @cyanoverseer
    @cyanoverseer 2 роки тому

    Your content is the reason I became a hoi4 meta player lol keep it up bud

  • @darkscythe3874
    @darkscythe3874 Рік тому

    Hey, could you make an explanation on when to attack (regular) and when to support attack / what’s the difference between them? Thanks

  • @EternalEmpr3ss
    @EternalEmpr3ss 2 роки тому +1

    Dumb question but do medium and heavy fighters work against small ones considering small ones got much more speed and agility?

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому +1

      You can make a fighter with the medium. If you look at Alexander Holt's comment that's the lead contender for best fighter.

  • @RunicRhino22
    @RunicRhino22 2 роки тому

    The only thing I want from this DLC is the plane designer. The mods I play with (Rt.56) does focus trees better.

    • @kevins.851
      @kevins.851 2 роки тому +2

      bro Road ist just a fucking meme where every Country become a fucking superpower

  • @hhj858
    @hhj858 Рік тому

    hey i have a question can you make this video with early game designs too since these technologies are mostly only available in 1939-1940 itll be good to build up planes before then

  • @vebastiansettel253
    @vebastiansettel253 Рік тому

    whats the best close aire support and bomber ? pls help

  • @Short..
    @Short.. 2 роки тому

    i need that single player meta tho is this for multi?

  • @irwainnornossa4605
    @irwainnornossa4605 2 роки тому

    I'm experimenting with this right now, so advice was very welcomed.
    I'm curious to see how my designs do in combat. I like to design high quality high cost stuff in general. In naval, it wins the battles. Tanks…I think so, but there it's little bit unclear. But the air. I hope it works, but I fear the AI will demolish me.

  • @Eren03eren
    @Eren03eren 2 роки тому

    I would design those planes so badly as i was extreamly excited for this update. however Sadly im having troubles with hoi4. Right when it finishes loading the game crashes, i dont have mods activated and compleatly reinstalled the game but it doesnt work.

  • @christopherh2729
    @christopherh2729 2 роки тому

    Do any of the add-ons lower your agility? If so, is it worth sacrificing agility for more power or defense?

  • @MRROSARY93
    @MRROSARY93 Рік тому

    i just wanna develop a small plane that hits so hard i can have Big Bulky monster planes to drop bombs !"

  • @wafflesis
    @wafflesis Рік тому

    dang i thought it was free to use

  • @freetime5803
    @freetime5803 2 роки тому +5

    Normal hoi4 players: *considers every factor that goes into designing a good plane
    Me (a real intellectual): just add literally everything

    • @TrevorSmithy
      @TrevorSmithy 2 роки тому +1

      and that's how you get a jack of all trades, master of none.

  • @dualrotorhelicopter
    @dualrotorhelicopter 2 роки тому +4

    hey there, this is entirely unrelated to the video. i am entirely unsure as to the efficacy of putting hashtags in the description, but if they do actually help, you still have La Resistance there instead of By Blood Alone.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому

      Fixed! Thank you

  • @localman9063
    @localman9063 2 роки тому +37

    Planes in this new update are a lot more expensive. I can imagine a future patch that reduces the cost a bit. You now have to spend 42 IC just to get a decent small frame fighter, compared to late game fighter 3s that never costed more than 28 IC in the past.

    • @donnyboi6061
      @donnyboi6061 2 роки тому +16

      that means they are expensive to all so which means late game will be fluent later since ai couldn't spammed thousands

    • @blakedake19
      @blakedake19 2 роки тому +2

      @@donnyboi6061 Exactly, you now can have in 1945!

    • @misterxxxxxxxxx1
      @misterxxxxxxxxx1 2 роки тому +2

      @@donnyboi6061 yes its a good thing, usa wont be having 30k planes in 1945

  • @ahmetsamet7428
    @ahmetsamet7428 2 роки тому +5

    ıM NOT GONNA PAY FOR A "DLC" IS LITERALY CUT OUT CONTENT FROM GAME, IM GONNA USE IT CRACKED DLC FUCK PARADOX
    thanks for video

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и 2 роки тому +1

    Ok then I guess, you`re a clickbait genius

  • @gespacho8005
    @gespacho8005 Рік тому +3

    pydgin where have you been???

  • @gOtze1337
    @gOtze1337 2 роки тому +2

    i dont know if it is because armored tains have now AA, but i did not have much luck with GlasCannon CAS. i think its worth it to not go to crazy on modules that reduce agility and have some defence.

    • @NicholasW943
      @NicholasW943 2 роки тому +2

      The update let's the AA built by civ factories shoot down CAS doing logi bombing, so that could be why. Didn't check if armored trains get AA now too, but that'd be awesome if they did. It would make sense to slap an AA gun or two on a train that costs a fortune to build.

  • @autystawswiecie363
    @autystawswiecie363 2 роки тому +2

    I have mostly problem with replaicing and modernizing squadrons from old designs to better designs. I just don't understand how it works.

    • @Gwebb74
      @Gwebb74 2 роки тому

      Production tab, click on the aircraft symbol, decommission the plane you no longer intend on using(green button). Same with tanks

  • @MuhamedAvdic
    @MuhamedAvdic 2 роки тому +1

    If befor BBA nav bombers is 30IC, but in with BBA is 60IC. In focus tree you can get -10%IC lover on aircraft
    In 30IC 10% is 3 with 60IC 10% is 6
    30IC witn no buff to production forn 1 per day you need 10 fac with 10% you need 9
    For 60 you need 20 with 10% you need 18. That is 2 fac for XY
    USA is now more op

  • @luthfinst3023
    @luthfinst3023 2 роки тому +1

    is it worth it to produce fighter bomber? i mean if you play as minor nation you don't have capacity to produce separate line of airframe to fulfill ur needs

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому

      probably not, specialized roles do far better at each task.

  • @PossessedPotatoBird
    @PossessedPotatoBird Рік тому +1

    i hate designable planes ):
    i miss when i could just click on a plane and boom

    • @AmYisraelChai10
      @AmYisraelChai10 Рік тому

      I know. I also hate that to upgrade the first medium tank its 600 days now. It used to be 100 days in NSB

  • @merchant_of_kek5697
    @merchant_of_kek5697 2 роки тому

    Shut up no. Mach 1 propeller go REEEEEEEEEEE

  • @caseblue2232
    @caseblue2232 Рік тому

    Still waiting for that video

  • @LTrotsky21stCentury
    @LTrotsky21stCentury 2 роки тому

    None of this matters since it's extremely painful tedious and almost pointless to attempt to control air wing composition, once you are in a position to upgrade. The air unit tags don't work, and the other controls are extreme micro to get any control over air wing composition. PDX really messed up the air paradigm by removing air wing composition management in the game.

  • @anti-fables217
    @anti-fables217 2 роки тому

    Is there a button in the game for like defending a strategic city got encircled like leningarde ? Like categorizing more equipment for a specific division/customizing an air transport plane for supplying a specific division or like that??

  • @alexvonrom7942
    @alexvonrom7942 2 роки тому

    In my games with Italy when I request civilian factories in the peace treaty after some months they disappeare, is it because im still at war with other countries?

  • @reckless20
    @reckless20 Рік тому

    1:16 - use a medium airframe to have more range, but then apply armor plates to reduce range and to make it even more expensive 🥴
    Agility is more important than defence, and it's already lower compared to small frames.
    Imho - prioritise medium cas with max range and ground attack while rolling motorized divs asap.
    If you have to zerg paratroopers - prioritise air superiority with cheap medium fighters.
    If you have to be on the defending side - only spam small fighters with 0 range mods.

  • @chickenpurple6704
    @chickenpurple6704 Рік тому

    Personally, I don't use cannons on my fighters. More often than not I'll make a general purpose aircraft that has HMGs in all but one offensive slot, then use that slot for rocket rails. No agility penalties, you can set it on cas in an area and it will attack ground and air, killing everything.

  • @TheRagaz
    @TheRagaz 2 роки тому

    the better fighter is the medium frame fitted with max cannons and max cannon turrets. you have around 140 air attack and it wrecks agility based fighters

  • @BarcelPL
    @BarcelPL 2 роки тому

    That is too bad, I hoped there would be some room for multi-role aircraft. Even historically, fighters would carry a bomb or two to fulfill some CAS role.

  • @evolve117
    @evolve117 2 роки тому

    Honestly agility should never had been nerfed. Why was it nerfed in the first place. I get it for bombers but for fighters?

  • @VampiroGaming
    @VampiroGaming 2 роки тому

    Thanks a lot :) Super informative and not too long. And now a video on the new naval system, please ;)

  • @endzor
    @endzor 2 роки тому

    Why mit just 3 x4 MGS and 3 engine for fighter? Cannons make you lose agility!

  • @sageboys2
    @sageboys2 2 роки тому

    I like how a Pydgin is telling me how to design planes to deal the most damage.

  • @averagerocenjoyer3152
    @averagerocenjoyer3152 2 роки тому

    just want to know how to make recon plane. it is just need to slap on the camera?

  • @sketchyirishman8975
    @sketchyirishman8975 2 роки тому

    Ngl I’m just gonna design my planes based on war thunder

  • @gerfand
    @gerfand 2 роки тому

    hey, at least you don't have Tank constructs like the Tank one.

  • @aomsinzana
    @aomsinzana 2 роки тому

    now witness Pigeon squadron ah .. no Penguin squadron .

  • @coblow1681
    @coblow1681 2 роки тому

    Remember that the engines themselves cap max speed, this is seen on the actual module itself

  • @zKremet
    @zKremet 2 роки тому

    amazing quality vids and straight to the point, keep it up :)

  • @notavailable6460
    @notavailable6460 2 роки тому

    Geh only good black pigeon on UA-cam

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 2 роки тому

    Interesting

  • @barb1493
    @barb1493 2 роки тому

    I love this video

  • @ayxanqocayev7604
    @ayxanqocayev7604 Рік тому

    So Is there any difference among small medium and large aircrafts? Like If you have huge aluminium resource but small manpower, which aircraft model suits on you?

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Рік тому

      Biggest difference is cost and range.

  • @chopcyk6452
    @chopcyk6452 2 роки тому

    Don't shit

  • @WalrusJones185
    @WalrusJones185 2 роки тому

    Honestly feel some of the hybridization's they chose are strange. Like, the aircraft tank busters are 99% similar to a heavier cannon if we look at historical examples, so the fact that they are instead just lower weight bombs that stay active as a fighter is really bizarre.
    Really, they should be a somewhat weight inefficient cannons (times 1) that allow a few ground attacks to be taken in addition to the cannons air role, rather then somehow being as effective as a bomb at taking out a railway (???)

    • @magni5648
      @magni5648 Рік тому

      The tank buster cannons are way different from the automatic cannons used in the AA role. TB cannons are stuff like the Tankbuster Stukas' 37mm pods. Semi-auto, high velocity weapons derived from light anti-tank guns that pack way more firepower per shot than the shorter-barreled, lower-velocity autocannons used to fight aircraft.

    • @WalrusJones185
      @WalrusJones185 Рік тому

      @@magni5648 The NS-37 was built for tank busting but when it initially debuted it caused german aircraft tactics to change because they were afraid of anecdotal stories of planes being destroyed in a single hit.
      The MK-101 was similarly multi-role and extremely common on german medium aircraft.
      A lot of the early autocannons used for tank busting were multi-role, IE: Anything that could be produced in 1940, where as 1942 and 1945 cannons were split between being multirole (NS-37) and single role (BK-3.7, BK-5, the british 57...)
      Early low-weight tank busters probably would act like single barrel, prohibitively heavy cannon 2's in addition to their ground raiding role, even if at-cannon 2's simply should be useless against aircraft.

  • @AjarTadpole7202
    @AjarTadpole7202 2 роки тому

    Can you make a fighter using large aircraft frame? Thats what I wanted to do as soon as I heard about plane designer but I still cant :(

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  2 роки тому

      Only small, and medium for fighters.

    • @prrrromotiongiven1075
      @prrrromotiongiven1075 2 роки тому +1

      Bro the whole point of huge airframes is putting heavy weapons on them, needless to say fighter MGs or even cannons do not require that much support from the airframe

    • @totskaart
      @totskaart Рік тому

      dude ur asking to turn a bomber into a fighter like that just doesnt happen

  • @D3xt3rity
    @D3xt3rity 2 роки тому +1

    I wish air battles had a UI like sea battles where you could see ships maundering. In the air context, it would be cool to see your air-wings going forward/back etc

  • @s0lsticefr4
    @s0lsticefr4 Рік тому

    are the designs still good ? I heard there were some changes made

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Рік тому

      For fighters it's better to start with the HMG for 'improved frames and move to cannons/hmg mix with the '44 fighters late game. Stats are more balanced now then when BBA was release. Use medium frame if you're fighting mostly outside of Europe for the better range. As far as the tact/nav/strats go there are a lot of conditional situations where one type is better than another. Generally you should max your damage stat(s) if you're confident in green air, otherwise you'll need a balance. I'll have an update on this soon with more videos explaining the air mechanics.

  • @moritztabor1678
    @moritztabor1678 2 роки тому

    Thanks a lot man. Best hoi4 yt channel imo

  • @adamc9834
    @adamc9834 2 роки тому

    Pydgin and efficient - worst hoi 4 players ever, hapnin

  • @Rodq
    @Rodq 2 роки тому +7

    I HATED IT WHEN THEY DID THE SAME WITH THE FLEET, I JUST WANT TO CLICK AND TO MAKE WHAT I WANT