Serguei Khadukin , How does it compare to PS1 Dune 2000 port? From what I've read, decent alongside Command & Conquer ports especially with PS1 Dualshocks and mice for each person in a 2-player battle over the PS1 'system' serial link between a pair of consoles but with a twist [ not offered elsewhere? ] Eventually the two players who were battling against each other will experience a branch in the story when they'll have to co-op against one of the other clans as a common enemy ran by the game's AI. Haven't come to that experience yet but have my systems, S-video cabling, mice, serial / combat link cable and so far a copy of Dune 2000. ( Would've been handy if Dune 2000 came with both discs needed to link a pair of consoles like the latter pair of Command & Conquer PS1 ports so the search for a second disc continues. )
I played the hell out of Warcraft 2 and KKND on my PS1 back in the day, and then I also played them on my PSP via PSX2PSP, playing Warcraft 2 on the go was still amazing.
I remember quite loving the PS1 version of Warcraft 2. And the Age Of Empire 2 port for PS2 was pretty damn good too. That's how I was introduced to the series.
I remember with affection Warcraft 2 and especially Magic the Gathering: Battlemage in the original playstation, although I did not play them that much.
Kinda bummed there was no mention of Pikmin, but I didn't expect it to be a featured title, since it's pretty well known and doesn't push consoles to make the RTS genre work. Still loved the video though, as I still got the actual meat I wanted.
I think he was sticking to pure RTS games (otherwise Herzog Zwei would have probably been mentioned), and I don't think Pikmin was inspired by the genre at all, I see it as a spiritual successor to SimAnt.
You know I have a very vivid memory of playing PS1 Command & Conquer Red Alert over link cable with my brother back in the day. I remember hauling my 19in. television into the living room and positioning it so I could watch my brother play on the larger television to cheat. :D Thats like the only time I ever remember using the PS1 link cable! lol It was fun. PS1 C&C wasn't great but it was my very first exposure to the RTS genre (we had no computer in our household until several years later). I have a big 'ole soft spot for the PS1 C&C games because of that.
You appear to have overlooked a couple of rather prominent cases - Tom Clancy's EndWar on PS3 and Xbox 360 was also built for consoles, and got around the awkward selections by using voice commands (which actually made it horrible when ported to PC). Army Men RTS is significantly less prominent, but got around selection boxes with selection circles of varying sizes from the center of the screen.
Never knew that SC 64 could be played with the mouse. Also, One of it's biggest strengths was the ability to play the entire campaign coop. The exclusive content being the final mission (Resurrection) was also a bonus.
Command And Conquer Red Alert Retaliation and KKND2 (european only) on PS1. very awesome RTSes, I played a lot back in my childhood and enjoyed with friends on splitscreens of KKND2. but CNC:RAR only support link game, still fun believe me.
In Starcraft 64 you can pan the camera faster by holding Z, you can hotkey units with R and C Buttons and use them with Z and C buttons, and use the global build menu with R and Z Buttons.
The ones I remember playing are Mega-Lo-Mania on the MegaDrive/Genesis (although I never really played it that much, it was one of those games I picked up a couple times but remember really well), and Dune 2000 for the PS1 (although that was a console port to a PC game, so I don't think it counts as a "true console RTS game").
Alien vs Predator Extinction (PS2 & Xbox) is an admirable attempt at a console RTS, there's Warcraft on PSX, Halo Wars. I remember reading about a Lego RTS game, but it might have been on DS.
Man, I loved Starcraft64. I played the pc version at a friends, but didn't have my own PC. It'd probably be a bit harder to go back and play now that I have the pc version, but at the time, it was great. It played well and was a ton of fun.
Kiind of shocked this one wasn't covered at all. Isn't Herzog Zwei considered to be one of the pioneering games of the genre? How are you going to cover console RTS games and skip the fact that one of the most important games in the genre overall was actually a console game?
I'm STILL playing Warlocked. I wish I had known about this game back in the day and gotten the game for the GameBoy itself. But emulator works. Interesting game. I also got introduced to Metal Storm via your show (well, HVGN). It's fun to discover games I missed back then, depending on what was shipped to Iceland. What my parents wanted/could buy, my older brother etc. :D
Oh boy! Been waiting on this one for a long time! Have I got a list for you! Alien vs Predator: Extinction (PS2 and Xbox)-- An interesting, underappreciated diamond in the rough with three very different faction playstyles. The only problem is there seems to be no Skirmish/Multiplayer modes :( LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 2-- A fantastic conversion of classic RTS, only problem is it's pricey. Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat (PS1)--A Total War style game for PS1. Might be interesting, but I've never played. Warhammer: Battle March (360)-- The above on steroids: multiple playable factions but a pretty linear campaign (to my knowledge). A must for your next one. Stormrise (360)-- A terrible game to be sure, but one with some very interesting ideas and factions. done from a third person command unit's perspective. Also made by Creative Assembly, so that's a thing. Army Men RTS (PS2 and Xbox)--Exactly what you think. Grim Grimoire (PS2)-- An Atlus published game from 2005. Again, expectations meet reality. Supreme Commander (360)-- A valiant effort, but this is Supreme Commander, where the individual unit limit is 1000 so yeah... Universe at War: Earth Assault (360)-- Three distinct alien factions and made by the guys who did Command and Conquer right down to the music. clunky but worth a look. Thanks for tolerating this little Sperg Session!
Personally, my favorite console RTS is still Tom Clancy's EndWar. Like Halo Wars, it was an RTS made with console controls in mind, and it had a giommick that actually worked: Voice Control. You can shout orders into a headset and the game will (pretty decently) translate what you said onto the battlefield. The controiler controls were also nice, and I just like the style of the game, with 3 distinct factions (European Federation Enforcer Corps, Joint Strike Forces and Russian Spetznaz), and the game still has a very nice design and look.
GrimGrimoire by VanillaWare on the PS2 is a strange and fascinating console RTS. I don't even like RTSs, but love VanillaWare so picked up GrimGrimoire expecting it to be like Odin Sphere, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, and Princess Crown. Rather surprised that it was an RTS, but ended up being quirky and fun. Think it's worth a look.
I forgot you did a Warlocked episode I gotta go back and watch that one, I loved that game back in the day, and was just talking about it yesterday :) Only played command and conquer 64 of these games, it was ok but I'm glad I only rented it and didn't buy it haha
A bunch of RTS' got Xbox 360 ports. Command and Conquer 3, Red Alert 3, Battle for Middle-Earth 2, Tom Clancy's Endwar, Supreme Commander, Supreme Commander 2, Universe at War. Of course there was Halo Wars as well, but that one you've already discussed.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the various RTS games on the Sega Genesis. There was Herzog Zwei, Dune, and I think one or two that I am forgetting. The Genesis was a surprising source for RTS games before they were really popularized by Warcraft 2.
there are some good Japanese strategy games that are older than the games you covered. Telenet made two Hiouden games for the SNES, and I think they are both fan-translated. They also work with the mouse. And they're the original games; there is no PC version. Lord Monarch is a very old, almost proto-RTS game from Falcom. It came out before the term was invented. It was very well received in Japan. there is a great expanded port for Sega Megadrive, and a not-so-great Super Famicom non-extended port. Falcom even released the Windows version in English for free, and you can easily find it online if you search.
I remember that weird warcraft game on the playstation which i saw at my local videobox once, i just had to google it but it was called Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat, weird game but really cool looking for the time!
0:20 Don't really remember gamers *complaining* about playing an RTS on a console with a controller. We play Red Alert, Warcraft 2 on the *Playstation* and PC whenever we want, without feeling weird about using a mouse and later with a controller on a console. PFFFT... It's my dream to play StarCraft 64 and Command and Conquer 64
I think Pikmin would have been interesting to discuss! There's also an RTS game for the GBA called Mech Platoon that was apparently well received? Punching Weight episode suggestion: Killer7. When it comes to "weird," it doesn't get much weirder than Killer7. Just about every aspect of that game is unconventional, right down to the controls (you move your character with the A button). But it's also one of my favorite games on the GameCube and still my favorite Suda 51 game.
how about Suda51 in general? He's a fucking madman when it comes to weird games. I mean, his latest release, Let It Die, has the Grim Reaper on a fucking skateboard and a hot stripper who's obsessed with mushrooms.
StarCraft 64 wasn't the best, BUT when you and your buddies don't have multiple PC's, it was FREAKING AWESOME!!! I think that's purely the reason anyone would get this iteration, great for children who can't earn money
I thought C&C on the PS1 was pretty decent. Not as good as the PC version but it looked pretty much the same and played quite similarly. No analog support is a bit annoying but not a deal breaker in the slightest. Tom Clancy's EndWar should've been mentioned. Finally a game about WWIII where you don't have to play as the US. It also had some pretty cool gameplay and it could be quite challenging in the last levels of the campaign.
I'm curious what y'all would think of Valkyria Chronicles. Originally released on the PS3, it was ported to the PS4 a few months back. Its a RTS wherein you contol each unit individually, and when you do, the game dives from an over the top perspective into a third person shooter style. Its kickass, stylized, has charming characters, almost completely fully voice acted, and is a lot of fun! One of my favorite games actually. I recommend y'all check it out. There is a sequel on PSP (2 actually, 1 didn't come to America) and a new title will be coming out soon but it appears to be much more action based.
Played a lot of C&C on the N64. And some Years later, bought an US N64 only for StarCraft (and Harvest Moon 64). Because both Games where not released in Germany. I think, there were a small amount of PAL StarCraft 64 Games released in Australia. Maybe you could cover the Alien vs Predator RTS on XBox :D
Come on Derek, you missed out a lot of decent RTS games on consoles, including a favorite of mine, Army Men: RTS.... There better be a part 2 to this video.
Well, the SNES port of Populous was functional... Not great or anything, but it worked. It helped that the game was relatively slow and you did not have to select any individual units.
Oh, I never knew that. it was release don GB. I can't imagine the screen being very pretty to look at when you scroll. I've been tempted to get a DS and the DS version of it though, as that sounds like the right kind of system for a game like populous (well, apart from any system that has a mouse ;) ). Oh, and I never knew that they ported The Beginning to anything. I just remember people being really upset with it back when it was released because of how much more like a basic RTS it was compared to the previous games
Can you do an episode on good videogames for tablet devices (that aren't nerfed by lack of a controller)? This episode made me think of Vainglory - which gives players a DotA/LoL style experience ... on iOS!
My first RTS was Command & Conquer on Sega Saturn and I effin' loved it! Yeah, the original on PC is much better, but I still think it's a good port on its on right. I also played Red Alert on PS1 and had fun with it. Of course nowadays I play the PC versions If I want to get back to C&C.
Starcraft on the N64 but Diablo on PlayStation? It's kind of a strange separation of franchises that Blizzard created. (Would Warcraft be on Saturn if they thought about it?) I remember playing Goblin War in my brother's Xbox, it's kind of my first exposure to the RTS genre and I had a lot of fun with it.
i have Command and Conquer expansion for psx and it supports the psx serial cable for multiplayer, if you dont hurry up and finish the game it gets REALLY LAGGY THO
I REALLY liked Army Men RTS despite it being objectively a very simple and very plain RTS game, which is bad if you're more into complexity like most RTS players are.
Talking about weird console RTS and you don't mention Aliens vs Predator Extinction? Also seems like a bit of a copout to do a video on console RTS games, then two out of three of those are ported from PC...
Some suggestions for those who are interested in Wii RTS: -Takt of Magic (only in Japanese, but text is only necessary to understand the story) -Monsteca Corral (Wii Ware; very weird but interesting concept) -PES series (soccer with RTS elements) -Battalion War 2 -Overlord (similar to Pikmin) -Pikmin 1 and 2 (ports)
The reason units in Command & Conquer don't attack enemy buildings is because you can use an Engineer to take over enemy buildings for yourself (and you can then build enemy buildings or units!) so you might want your units to guard buildings while your engineer walks over without damaging them.
Dang, you beat me to it. I love that game. Fantastic art, great story, and pretty groundbreaking in social terms considering it had an openly gay main character.
I went through all the cutscenes and Lillet does say she'll "offer her heart" to Amoretta. But after research it appears the _Fear Effect_ games were the first console video games to feature an openly gay, and explicit, playable protagonist.
erm... there are actually many ... I can think of 10 on the PSX alone... Actually I will try and list them here: Command and Conquer Red Alert Warcraft Civ Civ 2 Populous X-com Age of Empires Dune Shadow of the Horned Rat Dark Omen Warzone 2100
And here I thought I was the only person to have played Goblin Commander. It's interesting how Ressurection IV and so on from SC 64 turned out to be canonical to the Starcraft story.
my most nostalgic RTS console game is Command & Conquer Red Alert Retaliation for the PS1. with over 100 multilayer maps, 2 campaigns. and most of the issues you brought up about the first game fixed. I loved it and sunk so many hours into it. My favorite map was by far 65, as you couldn't just tank rush, and it forced you to build transports for beach invasions. me and my friends had many D day like situations on that map.
I had X-Com Terror from the deep for Playstation one, and I liked it, controls were fine but load times and enemy turns were very long. Also Warcraft 2 for Psone is good and playable port. Also Red alert Retaliation for PSone was ok. You definitely need to check those out.
PS1 favs are: KKND Krossfire, Dune 2000, Warzone 2100, Warhammer Dark Omen, Populous the beginning, Z (The bitmap brothers) to name a few :D. My all time fav console was the ps1 and loved every minute of it.
Dune 2 on Sega MegaDrive (Genesis) - one of the earliest RTS on consoles. A PC port from Westwood and Virgin.
Serguei Khadukin And one of the few ports that was better than the original.
Serguei Khadukin Classic
My friend had Dune 2 Battle for Arrakis for the Megadrive, and it was good, we played shit out of it.
Serguei Khadukin indeed
Serguei Khadukin ,
How does it compare to PS1 Dune 2000 port?
From what I've read, decent alongside Command & Conquer ports especially with PS1 Dualshocks and mice for each person in a 2-player battle over the PS1 'system' serial link between a pair of consoles but with a twist [ not offered elsewhere? ]
Eventually the two players who were battling against each other will experience a branch in the story when they'll have to co-op against one of the other clans as a common enemy ran by the game's AI. Haven't come to that experience yet but have my systems, S-video cabling, mice, serial / combat link cable and so far a copy of Dune 2000. ( Would've been handy if Dune 2000 came with both discs needed to link a pair of consoles like the latter pair of Command & Conquer PS1 ports so the search for a second disc continues. )
I played the hell out of Warcraft 2 and KKND on my PS1 back in the day, and then I also played them on my PSP via PSX2PSP, playing Warcraft 2 on the go was still amazing.
I remember quite loving the PS1 version of Warcraft 2.
And the Age Of Empire 2 port for PS2 was pretty damn good too. That's how I was introduced to the series.
I remember with affection Warcraft 2 and especially Magic the Gathering: Battlemage in the original playstation, although I did not play them that much.
Kinda bummed there was no mention of Pikmin, but I didn't expect it to be a featured title, since it's pretty well known and doesn't push consoles to make the RTS genre work.
Still loved the video though, as I still got the actual meat I wanted.
I think he was sticking to pure RTS games (otherwise Herzog Zwei would have probably been mentioned), and I don't think Pikmin was inspired by the genre at all, I see it as a spiritual successor to SimAnt.
Devin Craig Do you often get the "meat" that you crave?
Does long distance "meat" count?
Watching this video it makes sense than once they finally got the N64 Mouse they made like 6 videos about it 😂
You know I have a very vivid memory of playing PS1 Command & Conquer Red Alert over link cable with my brother back in the day. I remember hauling my 19in. television into the living room and positioning it so I could watch my brother play on the larger television to cheat. :D
Thats like the only time I ever remember using the PS1 link cable! lol
It was fun. PS1 C&C wasn't great but it was my very first exposure to the RTS genre (we had no computer in our household until several years later). I have a big 'ole soft spot for the PS1 C&C games because of that.
You appear to have overlooked a couple of rather prominent cases - Tom Clancy's EndWar on PS3 and Xbox 360 was also built for consoles, and got around the awkward selections by using voice commands (which actually made it horrible when ported to PC). Army Men RTS is significantly less prominent, but got around selection boxes with selection circles of varying sizes from the center of the screen.
Never knew that SC 64 could be played with the mouse. Also, One of it's biggest strengths was the ability to play the entire campaign coop. The exclusive content being the final mission (Resurrection) was also a bonus.
Command And Conquer Red Alert Retaliation and KKND2 (european only) on PS1. very awesome RTSes, I played a lot back in my childhood and enjoyed with friends on splitscreens of KKND2. but CNC:RAR only support link game, still fun believe me.
In Starcraft 64 you can pan the camera faster by holding Z, you can hotkey units with R and C Buttons and use them with Z and C buttons, and use the global build menu with R and Z Buttons.
KKND2: Krossfire on the PS1. One of my all time favorites.
also, great episode, thanks SSFF! :)
The ones I remember playing are Mega-Lo-Mania on the MegaDrive/Genesis (although I never really played it that much, it was one of those games I picked up a couple times but remember really well), and Dune 2000 for the PS1 (although that was a console port to a PC game, so I don't think it counts as a "true console RTS game").
Alien vs Predator Extinction (PS2 & Xbox) is an admirable attempt at a console RTS, there's Warcraft on PSX, Halo Wars. I remember reading about a Lego RTS game, but it might have been on DS.
Man, I loved Starcraft64. I played the pc version at a friends, but didn't have my own PC. It'd probably be a bit harder to go back and play now that I have the pc version, but at the time, it was great. It played well and was a ton of fun.
Lets not forget Herzog Zwei.
Herzog Zwei is awesome.
was hoping they'd mention it since it came before the modern computer RTS
Kiind of shocked this one wasn't covered at all. Isn't Herzog Zwei considered to be one of the pioneering games of the genre? How are you going to cover console RTS games and skip the fact that one of the most important games in the genre overall was actually a console game?
@@Gamebreakerprods it's a sequel to a Japan exclusive RTS Herzog, made by the same people.
I really wanted to play Warcraft 2 again so much, that I bought the PS1 port. It's not very good but it's playable.
I'm STILL playing Warlocked. I wish I had known about this game back in the day and gotten the game for the GameBoy itself. But emulator works. Interesting game.
I also got introduced to Metal Storm via your show (well, HVGN). It's fun to discover games I missed back then, depending on what was shipped to Iceland. What my parents wanted/could buy, my older brother etc. :D
Warzone 2100 on the PlayStation, sad this one got over looked.
I remember playing Mech Platoon on GBA and loving it. It was probably trash, but I still played it when I barely had anything else back then.
Oh boy! Been waiting on this one for a long time! Have I got a list for you!
Alien vs Predator: Extinction (PS2 and Xbox)-- An interesting, underappreciated diamond in the rough with three very different faction playstyles. The only problem is there seems to be no Skirmish/Multiplayer modes :(
LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 2-- A fantastic conversion of classic RTS, only problem is it's pricey.
Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat (PS1)--A Total War style game for PS1. Might be interesting, but I've never played.
Warhammer: Battle March (360)-- The above on steroids: multiple playable factions but a pretty linear campaign (to my knowledge). A must for your next one.
Stormrise (360)-- A terrible game to be sure, but one with some very interesting ideas and factions. done from a third person command unit's perspective. Also made by Creative Assembly, so that's a thing.
Army Men RTS (PS2 and Xbox)--Exactly what you think.
Grim Grimoire (PS2)-- An Atlus published game from 2005. Again, expectations meet reality.
Supreme Commander (360)-- A valiant effort, but this is Supreme Commander, where the individual unit limit is 1000 so yeah...
Universe at War: Earth Assault (360)-- Three distinct alien factions and made by the guys who did Command and Conquer right down to the music. clunky but worth a look.
Thanks for tolerating this little Sperg Session!
This one deserves a follow-up with a lot of the classics and big names that you missed here!
I used to play a lot of Command and conquer red alert for the PS1
Loved playing Goblin Commander as a kid.
Personally, my favorite console RTS is still Tom Clancy's EndWar. Like Halo Wars, it was an RTS made with console controls in mind, and it had a giommick that actually worked: Voice Control. You can shout orders into a headset and the game will (pretty decently) translate what you said onto the battlefield. The controiler controls were also nice, and I just like the style of the game, with 3 distinct factions (European Federation Enforcer Corps, Joint Strike Forces and Russian Spetznaz), and the game still has a very nice design and look.
I'm pretty sure I first played the original Command and Conquer on the Nintendo 64 and only afterwards looked for a copy to play it on the PC!
GrimGrimoire by VanillaWare on the PS2 is a strange and fascinating console RTS.
I don't even like RTSs, but love VanillaWare so picked up GrimGrimoire expecting it to be like Odin Sphere, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, and Princess Crown. Rather surprised that it was an RTS, but ended up being quirky and fun. Think it's worth a look.
I forgot you did a Warlocked episode I gotta go back and watch that one, I loved that game back in the day, and was just talking about it yesterday :)
Only played command and conquer 64 of these games, it was ok but I'm glad I only rented it and didn't buy it haha
A bunch of RTS' got Xbox 360 ports. Command and Conquer 3, Red Alert 3, Battle for Middle-Earth 2, Tom Clancy's Endwar, Supreme Commander, Supreme Commander 2, Universe at War.
Of course there was Halo Wars as well, but that one you've already discussed.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the various RTS games on the Sega Genesis. There was Herzog Zwei, Dune, and I think one or two that I am forgetting. The Genesis was a surprising source for RTS games before they were really popularized by Warcraft 2.
Surprised you didn’t bring up Herzog Zwei on the Genesis. That thing was nuts considering it was a console RTS that came out in 1989.
there are some good Japanese strategy games that are older than the games you covered. Telenet made two Hiouden games for the SNES, and I think they are both fan-translated. They also work with the mouse. And they're the original games; there is no PC version.
Lord Monarch is a very old, almost proto-RTS game from Falcom. It came out before the term was invented. It was very well received in Japan. there is a great expanded port for Sega Megadrive, and a not-so-great Super Famicom non-extended port. Falcom even released the Windows version in English for free, and you can easily find it online if you search.
I remember that weird warcraft game on the playstation which i saw at my local videobox once, i just had to google it but it was called Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat, weird game but really cool looking for the time!
0:20 Don't really remember gamers *complaining* about playing an RTS on a console with a controller.
We play Red Alert, Warcraft 2 on the *Playstation* and PC whenever we want, without feeling weird about using a mouse and later with a controller on a console. PFFFT...
It's my dream to play StarCraft 64 and Command and Conquer 64
always makes my day when a SSFF NOTIFICATION pops up on my phone
Only RTS styled game I ever beat was Brutal Legend on the PS3, and that was only partially RTS.
Surprised there was no mention of War zone 2100. it was a very fun and unique rts for the ps1
I think Pikmin would have been interesting to discuss! There's also an RTS game for the GBA called Mech Platoon that was apparently well received?
Punching Weight episode suggestion: Killer7. When it comes to "weird," it doesn't get much weirder than Killer7. Just about every aspect of that game is unconventional, right down to the controls (you move your character with the A button). But it's also one of my favorite games on the GameCube and still my favorite Suda 51 game.
how about Suda51 in general? He's a fucking madman when it comes to weird games. I mean, his latest release, Let It Die, has the Grim Reaper on a fucking skateboard and a hot stripper who's obsessed with mushrooms.
StarCraft 64 wasn't the best, BUT when you and your buddies don't have multiple PC's, it was FREAKING AWESOME!!! I think that's purely the reason anyone would get this iteration, great for children who can't earn money
I thought C&C on the PS1 was pretty decent. Not as good as the PC version but it looked pretty much the same and played quite similarly. No analog support is a bit annoying but not a deal breaker in the slightest.
Tom Clancy's EndWar should've been mentioned. Finally a game about WWIII where you don't have to play as the US. It also had some pretty cool gameplay and it could be quite challenging in the last levels of the campaign.
I'm curious what y'all would think of Valkyria Chronicles. Originally released on the PS3, it was ported to the PS4 a few months back. Its a RTS wherein you contol each unit individually, and when you do, the game dives from an over the top perspective into a third person shooter style. Its kickass, stylized, has charming characters, almost completely fully voice acted, and is a lot of fun! One of my favorite games actually.
I recommend y'all check it out. There is a sequel on PSP (2 actually, 1 didn't come to America) and a new title will be coming out soon but it appears to be much more action based.
it's more turn-based than real-time.
You could have mentioned Warcraft II for the PS1
Played a lot of C&C on the N64. And some Years later, bought an US N64 only for StarCraft (and Harvest Moon 64). Because both Games where not released in Germany. I think, there were a small amount of PAL StarCraft 64 Games released in Australia.
Maybe you could cover the Alien vs Predator RTS on XBox :D
this video made me remember how much I miss Westwood
I'll never forget you EA... never
ARMY MEN: RTS (GameCube) was my Addiction
Extermination for the ps2 is pretty highly overlooked but competent action horror game, check it out!
Neat to see where the Overlord series clearly got their inspiration, though I guess it's a lot like Pikmin too
I LOVED Goblin Commander! :)
Battalion Wars is one of Nintendo's weirdest franchises. A 3rd person/RTS spinoff of Advance Wars. It's surprisingly good.
Come on Derek, you missed out a lot of decent RTS games on consoles, including a favorite of mine, Army Men: RTS....
There better be a part 2 to this video.
HERZOG ZWEI for the Genesis is the original RTS, preceding even any PC titles on that genre.
it's actually a sequel to a Sharp X68000 game called Herzog.
Always dug Herzog Zwei for the Genesis. It's basically Airmech Arena, only released decades earlier.
it's actually a sequel to a Japan-only Sharp X68000 game called Herzog.
also made by the same people who made Thunderforce
Well, the SNES port of Populous was functional... Not great or anything, but it worked. It helped that the game was relatively slow and you did not have to select any individual units.
Populous was ported to a bunch of systems, even Game Boy and Master System. The PS1 port of The Beginning is great.
Oh, I never knew that. it was release don GB. I can't imagine the screen being very pretty to look at when you scroll.
I've been tempted to get a DS and the DS version of it though, as that sounds like the right kind of system for a game like populous (well, apart from any system that has a mouse ;) ).
Oh, and I never knew that they ported The Beginning to anything. I just remember people being really upset with it back when it was released because of how much more like a basic RTS it was compared to the previous games
RTS games seem perfect on a touchscreen. Well, not as good as a mouse, but still close.
Can you do an episode on good videogames for tablet devices (that aren't nerfed by lack of a controller)? This episode made me think of Vainglory - which gives players a DotA/LoL style experience ... on iOS!
My first RTS was Command & Conquer on Sega Saturn and I effin' loved it! Yeah, the original on PC is much better, but I still think it's a good port on its on right.
I also played Red Alert on PS1 and had fun with it. Of course nowadays I play the PC versions If I want to get back to C&C.
Nice Video! For An Idea For A Video I Would Suggest Maybe One About The N64 Expansion Pack, And What Games Used It
Alien Vs. Predator: Extinction for the original Xbox was a surprisingly decent console RTS
What about Pikmin or Yu-Gi-Oh!: Falsebound Kingdom?
You're talking about Console RTS, make the very concept sound like a fool's errand, and you don't even bring up Pikmin. The greatest console RTS ever.
Stay tuned
Ah, I see.
MarxForever that's a fair point, I never got into pikmin but I've sure heard enough about it
+MarxForever Lemmings i the og though.
Herzog Zwei is a good one for the genesis, it has split screen too
*insert PC master race comment*
Also Warcraft II got a port to Saturn and PS1.
Is it just me, or is this video not on the Punching Weight playlist?
Starcraft on the N64 but Diablo on PlayStation? It's kind of a strange separation of franchises that Blizzard created. (Would Warcraft be on Saturn if they thought about it?)
I remember playing Goblin War in my brother's Xbox, it's kind of my first exposure to the RTS genre and I had a lot of fun with it.
Diablo isn't a RTS.
Though its port on PS1 is pretty good, coming from Climax Entertainment. (same studio that made Contra 4)
Anyone else had this. I watched every episode & been subscribed for a fair amount of time... yet, UA-cam unsubscribed me from this channel?
i have Command and Conquer expansion for psx and it supports the psx serial cable for multiplayer, if you dont hurry up and finish the game it gets REALLY LAGGY THO
I REALLY liked Army Men RTS despite it being objectively a very simple and very plain RTS game, which is bad if you're more into complexity like most RTS players are.
Just throwing this out there
Yu-Gi-Oh! Falsebound Kingdom and Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings are pretty good
Micaiah the Otaku Gamer [HybridAngelZero] Falsebound Kingdom had RTS elements, but it was more of an RPG than anything.
Timothy Gauker I can definitely see that. then again, that may be one of the reasons it worked so well xD
wouldn't Brutal Legend count as a console RTS? that game felt like a streamed down version of Sacrifice.
This shouldn't be a thing but... please don't be Grace, please don't be Grace, please don't be Grace.
Would have liked to have seen awarhammer: Shadow Of The Horned Rat on the PS1. I. Never had the patience to play it. I'd like to see if you. Guys do.
Herzog Zwei as well as the ambitious but mediocre Aliens vs. Predator: Extinction are two games that definitely need covering.
Dune, for Sega Genesis is by far the best
Talking about weird console RTS and you don't mention Aliens vs Predator Extinction? Also seems like a bit of a copout to do a video on console RTS games, then two out of three of those are ported from PC...
PS1 Warcraft 2 when?
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings.
The best console RTS game is Pikmin.
Supreme Commander 2 on the Xbox 360
Army men rts on ps2 ftw
You never brought up the ps1 RTS's
I am a mechanical man
KKND2 PSX
KKND2 on PS1?
goblin commander seems kinda like Dawn of War 2 except less tactical and less direct control.
you NEED to feature Odama on the next one. voice controlled pinball RTS. that game is bonkers.
And it's made by the creator of Seaman and Sim Tower
Thanks Odama
+Mother'sBasement. Man I forgot about that.
Pinball rts sounds awesome
Its everyone's least favorite anime youtuber
I still have my Starcraft 64 cart and my Warcraft II ps1 disk.
I played SC64 so hard I broke the controller. I still can't believe how much fun I had with it.
Some suggestions for those who are interested in Wii RTS:
-Takt of Magic (only in Japanese, but text is only necessary to understand the story)
-Monsteca Corral (Wii Ware; very weird but interesting concept)
-PES series (soccer with RTS elements)
-Battalion War 2
-Overlord (similar to Pikmin)
-Pikmin 1 and 2 (ports)
The reason units in Command & Conquer don't attack enemy buildings is because you can use an Engineer to take over enemy buildings for yourself (and you can then build enemy buildings or units!) so you might want your units to guard buildings while your engineer walks over without damaging them.
is this where Mechanized infantry in Advance Wars can capture properties?
Check out grimgrimoire vanillaware's ps2 RTS.
zempmasterz Yes! I was gonna say!
Dang, you beat me to it. I love that game. Fantastic art, great story, and pretty groundbreaking in social terms considering it had an openly gay main character.
More so _implied_, but I see what you mean.
I came here to mention this. That game was pretty great considering its a 2D RTS on a console.
I went through all the cutscenes and Lillet does say she'll "offer her heart" to Amoretta. But after research it appears the _Fear Effect_ games were the first console video games to feature an openly gay, and explicit, playable protagonist.
surprised you didn't talk about warcraft 2 on PSOne
Yep. Came here to say that. I played a LOT of that game.
I played so much Age of Empires 2 on the PS2! I remember that being a decent port!
aoe2 on the ps2? really? wow.
that is one game that can't possibly work on consoles. it's so damn complex and requires so much precision...
Funny thing about that port, it allows mouse (and supposedly keyboard) usage through the USB ports on the PS2.
Command & Conquer on the ps1 could use the ps1's mouse
Nope! Tiberium dawn has no mouse support! Red alert and reatillation does support the ps mouse!
Check out Mech Platoon. That's a RTS game on the freakin GBA!
erm... there are actually many ... I can think of 10 on the PSX alone... Actually I will try and list them here:
Command and Conquer
Red Alert
Warcraft
Civ
Civ 2
Populous
X-com
Age of Empires
Dune
Shadow of the Horned Rat
Dark Omen
Warzone 2100
And here I thought I was the only person to have played Goblin Commander.
It's interesting how Ressurection IV and so on from SC 64 turned out to be canonical to the Starcraft story.
C&C: Red Alert Retaliation for the PS1 is also good.
my most nostalgic RTS console game is Command & Conquer Red Alert Retaliation for the PS1. with over 100 multilayer maps, 2 campaigns. and most of the issues you brought up about the first game fixed. I loved it and sunk so many hours into it.
My favorite map was by far 65, as you couldn't just tank rush, and it forced you to build transports for beach invasions. me and my friends had many D day like situations on that map.
I had X-Com Terror from the deep for Playstation one, and I liked it, controls were fine but load times and enemy turns were very long. Also Warcraft 2 for Psone is good and playable port. Also Red alert Retaliation for PSone was ok. You definitely need to check those out.
I thought X-Com was a turn-based strategy?
PS1 favs are: KKND Krossfire, Dune 2000, Warzone 2100, Warhammer Dark Omen, Populous the beginning, Z (The bitmap brothers) to name a few :D.
My all time fav console was the ps1 and loved every minute of it.
KKND was awesome, split screen kicked ass
I used to love C&C on the psone. Also, shout outs to Herzog Zwei on the Megadrive.
I always found the PS1 port of C&C Red Alert 1 to be pretty enjoyable.