As Bowser, Leon usually capitalizes on playing on the opponent's fear, but Marss is the most fearless Ultimate player in the game. Great set from both players!
Leon capitalizes on people hitting his shield then pressing Up+B or side B. Marss just played the set incredibly well and gave Leon sooo few of those opportunities. Also, bowser is such a good ledge trapper, but ZSS just has a stupid amount of mix-ups making it easier to get up off ledge
@@zsoliddanys1083 To be fair Marss just 3-0 leon. Also that was 7 months ago and Marss is a different beast now. Leon might of defeated him once but the meta has grown and ZSS has been explored and optimize quite a bit while bowser pretty much been fully explored.
@@rafikirana2468 not anymore, he plays wario wolf and occasionally Roy. He's dropped everything else (pt, young link, joker, banjo and probably some other characters I'm forgetting)
Just like Cosmos from Smash and Splash, Marss got his redemption from Defend the North 2019. Man, it looks like either Marss adapted a hell of a bunch or LeoN is getting washed
@@buffmastaflexx what do think mu is? Like plus 2 for ZSS I mean she has tools to zone out bowser, moves that're safe againsf bowser oos options, and generally just combos bowser hard. Plus bowser can't really ledge trap ZSS due to ZSS various ledge options. I mean we saw that marss was playing at ledge and that's typically where bowser excels at and leon couldn't do much. This is a good example of the bowser ZSS mu since they're the characters top reps what are your opinions?
As a bowser main, i can feel how bad the mu is. But Leon played this incredibly despite the loss. As a bowser its incredibly hard to approach chars with great options against you such as zss so well done to both of these players
Leon missed three opportunities for early combos because marss mashed out. As a bowser main, this is the kind of stuff you should always be looking for.
Me when I watch sets: *Sees favorited player and roots for them the entire set* Me later: *Sees other player getting bodied throughout the set and begins to place myself in their shoes and feel bad for them, and starts rooting for them instead*
Defense options in disadvantage is what really separates smash from other fighting games. Don't remove defense mechanics. If the opponent mashes out, you have to throw sooner- not remove mashing from the game
@@Chizypuff It's not a defensive option. It's a type of input, specifically one that advantages people who can still afford to ruin their wrist. Any number of things could replace it. Which would be good, because a good masher can nullify buries and grabs that last longer than a third of a second.
@@nathanlevesque7812 and DI is a type of input that punishes people that can't react fast enough. Buries shouldn't be free punishes anyways imo, and grabs I'm pretty sure you can still buffer a throw before it's physically possible to mash out
That just matchup, leon is the best bowser, but playing a heavy vs a zero suit is a 10-0 matchup you are just combo bait vs a top tier combo character.
Isn’t it weird that Leon goes by Marss now and plays Zero Suit while Marss goes by Leon now and plays Bowser? It was especially weird since the player cam for each person and their information was mixed up. In all seriousness, as much as I wanted Leon to win, congrats to Marss for the victory. It was a hella solid win.
Leon plays bower just like 90% of the other bowers I see online. Sits, waits in shield, and either side + b or up + air. His opponent obviously capatilies on this and grabs the sh*t out of him.
As Bowser, Leon usually capitalizes on playing on the opponent's fear, but Marss is the most fearless Ultimate player in the game. Great set from both players!
No doubt Marss is fearless, but I'd say Leo is moreso. He's come back from so many 2-0s.
leon sat in shield
Leon capitalizes on people hitting his shield then pressing Up+B or side B. Marss just played the set incredibly well and gave Leon sooo few of those opportunities. Also, bowser is such a good ledge trapper, but ZSS just has a stupid amount of mix-ups making it easier to get up off ledge
I love your guide
Do you have neutral and/or ledge guide or plan to?
Marss really extending the set to get VGBC that ad revenue, what a hero
What a fanboy you are
Lmaoo
@@YounesLayachi what an edgy commenter you are
This matchup looks so rough
Not really, bowser can destroy zss with 3-4 neutral wins
@@azs5547 its exactly what happened the last time they play
@@cesarTorres-lj1df Wasn't the last time they play 7 monthe ago?
@@azs5547 I mean you're not wrong but getting those neutral wins is pretty impossible if the ZSS just moves around and plays safe
@@azs5547 That's just Bowser stuff. He can destroy anyone off of 3-4 neutral wins.
Leon always gets destroyed by the player he upsets when they play a second time lol
Other than Cosmos that is. Remember that slaughter?
Rarest cosmos beat him the second time around
I didn´t know that, i don´t watch that much of this stuff
Dabuz. He beat Dabuz's Olimar at Smash N Splash (I think), only to lose to his Rosalina & Luma next they met.
Superpokemaster bowser tbh is kind of like a gimmick tbh. If the other player learns matchup then bowser has a hard time
That commentator keeps saying "Yeah, he's the best in the business at ..." every time the other commentator complements a player
Shane G to be fair, Leon is the best bowser and marss is really dang good at ZSS so it makes sense
Alex Eskenazi I would say he’s the best in the business tbh.. wouldn’t you..?
I wonder if OP has tried commentating an S-Tier Event..?
Sho'Nuff when you put it like that, how could I possibly disagree!
@@CaptainShenanigans42 But, there are pro players out there that are good at button mashing, lmao
Ain't gonna lie zss is stylish. So is marss
1:55 Saying how doing an unexpected down air is the Leon when Marss is probably most infamous for random dairs.
Wow, first to 3 starting with top 96. That must have been exhausting but it's nice to get so many serious games.
Leon noooooo
Leon yes
He needs to go win losers bracket rn 😔
Leon yes.
Marrs just wakes up and comes to do battle
9:38 "What nerf"?
Man Marss has been killing it lately and going up against one of Zero Suit's easier matchups makes it more fun.
Like ur Lelouche di brittania profile picture
I mean to be fair, LeoN 3-1d Narss before.
@@zsoliddanys1083 To be fair Marss just 3-0 leon. Also that was 7 months ago and Marss is a different beast now. Leon might of defeated him once but the meta has grown and ZSS has been explored and optimize quite a bit while bowser pretty much been fully explored.
There set count is even I’m sure and this mu ain’t that bad. Bowser has to play more safe but it’s doable
@@rafikirana2468 That doesnt change the fact that LeoN 3-1d Marss before, Marss was prepared for this MU now.
The speed of ZSS vs Bowser has me wanting to see Voids Sheik vs Leon's Bowser. Itd be death by a thousand cuts vs death by 3 hits.
Joshua Krieger they've played but it was before the new buffs to sheik search void vs leon
Leon’s Bowser kinda stomped his sheik but when VoiD switched to Pichu I believe the match started to go better for him
Gonna ask Leon if he wants to smoke a blunt if he's at CEO.
Littt
Please update us
Who’s gonna tell him
He wasn't there.
Marss is my fav player. Hope he wins this tournament as well. He could be #1 if he continues his winning streak just a bit longer
I hope he just loses to tweeks pt for some reason
@@thijmengladdines5344 tweek dropped pt
@@julianb.f4007 who does he play anyways? Is he going through another character crisis?
@@rafikirana2468 not anymore, he plays wario wolf and occasionally Roy. He's dropped everything else (pt, young link, joker, banjo and probably some other characters I'm forgetting)
@@rafikirana2468 well turns out tweek played pt against nairo, making me an absolute fraud...
Leon is so good, it’s amazing that he gets so far with bowser, unfortunately zero suit is S tier
It's just a bad matchup for Bowser.
@rockriku And ZSS is S tier
it's the player not the character. I don't think anything is stopping you from picking up a top tier and getting 5th in the world right?
@@Berettadv 1 character and matchup does matter
2 as a european i know that if your not american or japanese you have way less chances
@@thijmengladdines5344 yeah, a European player couldn't possibly make top 8, right ?
Just like Cosmos from Smash and Splash, Marss got his redemption from Defend the North 2019. Man, it looks like either Marss adapted a hell of a bunch or LeoN is getting washed
Marss is a different beast now then what he was 7 months ago plus ZSS has been optimize quite.
It’s Marss beasting he made this match look impossible.
@@buffmastaflexx what do think mu is? Like plus 2 for ZSS I mean she has tools to zone out bowser, moves that're safe againsf bowser oos options, and generally just combos bowser hard. Plus bowser can't really ledge trap ZSS due to ZSS various ledge options. I mean we saw that marss was playing at ledge and that's typically where bowser excels at and leon couldn't do much. This is a good example of the bowser ZSS mu since they're the characters top reps what are your opinions?
Marss is just really scary at adaptation. He got 10-0’d by BestNess and then a month later he 3-0’d him in tournament.
I'm worried for MkLeo, I hope the best for him
Two of my favorite players. so much fun to watch
Leon i love you man but its okay if you dont pick bowser from time to time. I want you to do good, you don’t have to pick bowser 100% of the time.
Smile is wondarful even if you lose‼
As a bowser main, i can feel how bad the mu is. But Leon played this incredibly despite the loss. As a bowser its incredibly hard to approach chars with great options against you such as zss so well done to both of these players
My 2 favorite guys smashing it out thanks FrostBite!
not if the wife finds out and decides to kill her husband
This mu can be really difficult for Bowser if you're not patient, good stuff too Marrs tho he's godlike, good luck to Leon in losers
Leon didn't really use fire breath much. Why? Just neglecting it or is there a good reason not to use it in this match?
leon barely ever uses fire breath.
flip kick invalidates it pretty much
0:43 Someone knows how to do this neutral B retreat trick ?
its called a wavebounce search it up
I think thats a b reverse, press b and right after press the opposite direction u r facing
its a B reverse, basically you click B right before you move your stick in the opposite direction.
both super talented players, but Leon all the way!
Leon missed three opportunities for early combos because marss mashed out.
As a bowser main, this is the kind of stuff you should always be looking for.
Watching this was extremely satisfying. 😁
Me when I watch sets: *Sees favorited player and roots for them the entire set*
Me later: *Sees other player getting bodied throughout the set and begins to place myself in their shoes and feel bad for them, and starts rooting for them instead*
That was tough to watch
Leon got grabbed like 20 times and never started to spot dodge it lol wow
That's what's known as the no mixup mixup. He probably thought marss would do a different option, but he didn't.
強すぎんだろ
Marss keep speedrunning
8:50 it does literally none of those lol, it does not start combos, there is no true setups into it either people really overating her options
It does start combos wdym. I always side b up air
@@thewinkersshow575 it isnt true tho
Marss’s only weakness sandbagging
Let's go marss
I think they should just remove mashing altogether.
Defense options in disadvantage is what really separates smash from other fighting games. Don't remove defense mechanics.
If the opponent mashes out, you have to throw sooner- not remove mashing from the game
@@Chizypuff It's not a defensive option. It's a type of input, specifically one that advantages people who can still afford to ruin their wrist. Any number of things could replace it. Which would be good, because a good masher can nullify buries and grabs that last longer than a third of a second.
@@nathanlevesque7812 and DI is a type of input that punishes people that can't react fast enough. Buries shouldn't be free punishes anyways imo, and grabs I'm pretty sure you can still buffer a throw before it's physically possible to mash out
@@Chizypuff You aren't reading very carefully. Also, tilting your control stick is a type of input, the result of which can be DI.
@@nathanlevesque7812 you don't seem to respect me so let's just agree to disagree.
Won't be surprised if Marss beats Leo again and win the whole tournament.
Oh.. Marss.. Leon
Please.. you guys don't fight over me!!
I beg you.. love you both
Mars is doing great for playing a low tier
Zss is top 5
@@beetlethebard7624 Marss has a tendancy to call his character "low tier" to avoid nerfs but really it's a joke.
@@beetlethebard7624 I know it's a joke
Tierlists dont matter if you are good at this game
N. W. If they didn’t matter they wouldn’t exist.
Come on Leon Thats Not you :(
The runback tho.
He let it be you 😔
あまりにも上手い
the eyebrows
I hate to be that guy. But this bowser did not seem great. I’m sure he was having an off day. But this ZERO SUIT wow!!!
That just matchup, leon is the best bowser, but playing a heavy vs a zero suit is a 10-0 matchup you are just combo bait vs a top tier combo character.
She's not a top tier combo character
Daniel Girard True but is it really that bad if a matchup? I feel like he could have done better since he’s the best bowser...idk
@@Itsgregrogstad and Marss is the the fifth player in the world and best Zero Suit Samus.
This commentator sounds like hbox🤔
I think it's him
@@nesp8207 no its definitely not him.
nesp that is definitely not Hbox, the commentators are Script and Koopa
@@williamwhitby5759 thanks!!
Weirdly enough I thought he kind of sounded like Chris Pratt
Good
I just noticed bowser looks like he has lip fillers.
Ohh hi phy
Isn’t it weird that Leon goes by Marss now and plays Zero Suit while Marss goes by Leon now and plays Bowser? It was especially weird since the player cam for each person and their information was mixed up.
In all seriousness, as much as I wanted Leon to win, congrats to Marss for the victory. It was a hella solid win.
Leon plays bower just like 90% of the other bowers I see online. Sits, waits in shield, and either side + b or up + air. His opponent obviously capatilies on this and grabs the sh*t out of him.
Leon está muerto
Bowser's grab sucks lmao
Thats why he has a command grab
So sad that the best heavy is just a mid tier... Buff the heavys!
Felipe Furquim most people consider him either in the middle or in the bottom of high tier
Buff Dedede
Felipe Furquim if hes a mid tier hes the best mid tier
@@otakuyasha0066 fuck no he deserves to be low/mid tier
Jesse Lissaur Nah bowser has to many losing matchups at best low high still not great as a solo main
Ez n.99a
Only noobs play bowsrr
Heavies suck
Just imagine how much more fun it would be without short hops.....so much more fun..... 😒
?
Are you still learning how to short hop?