Happy to see your Motorguide Pro is working. Mine went TERMINATOR Mode when I bought it new last May 2022. Service sucks to say the least from Motorguide/Mercury. Pays to be a PRO!!
does the active target transducer need to be next to the 3 in 1 transducer? because i have a 23ft center i have the 3 in 1 transducer on the rear of boat my graph is at console i dont have a anything at the troller i didnt know if i can put the active target at the troller and leave the transducer at the back of the boat thank you
It was kind of a free rig system. The main fluorcarbon line terminates to something like a swivel component. And a secondary line made out of braid is passed through the open eye of the swivel at the bottom of the main line back to the fishing rod. On one end of the braid piece, which is only a foot or two in length. Is a drop shot weight. On the opposite end of the same free moving braided piece, is another small swivel (which kind of stops when the braid slides through the open eye of the termination swivel). So one swivel tied to the braid piece, with drop shot weight at other end. Keeps this length of braid see-sawing back and forth through the open eye of the terminal swivel. On to the swivel on the braid line, is tied a short piece of fluorocarbon again to a hook. Which has a soft plastic bait rigged on the hook.
It's a really strange, odd kind of set up. Which is actually very 'unstable'. When fished vertically, the rig tends to operate something like a drop shot system. However, unlike a drop shot system, when the drop shot weight in on the bottom. The braided piece of line and short leader to that swings around fairly natural in the currents. That's one aspect to the system, when it operates vertically. When thrown horizontally however, it switches to becoming much more like a Carolina rigging system (the drop shot weight gets pulled up tight against that termination swivel). The braided line stretches back behind the weight as the thing is retrieved at depth. And the weightless soft plastic bait operates like a Carolina rig. When the whole thing is stationed at forty-five degrees down to the angler in boat. It operates a little bit like a Drop Shot rig, and a little bit like a Carolina rig. Yet, it's neither one nor the other.
What you're using for Croppie there, is like a miniature version of what the saltwater guys throw when they are trolling for saltwater species. When they want to troll their spoon baits down at sufficient depth in order to get bites. It is like a half or quarter scaled down model version of that saltwater rigging. Which is interesting in itself. Having looked at that set up though, I wondered if that other saltwater rig. I don't know what it's called would work for Croppie fishing or not. In order to test it out. My real sense about that free-running braided line thing. Is that for practice fishing generally for bass in some form. It wouldn't be a bad option for practice. Why? If it worked, and I just looked at a diagram of it once. If it worked, it enables the bass angler to both drop shot and Carolina rig fish. At the same time, without needing to change rods. All that one has to do, is to change casting angle. And you've got a 'two in one' sort of multi-purpose tool available. Probably no where near as effective as either or. However, there is that forty-five degree angle situation that interested me. Where for a brief amount of time, the rigging system becomes something that neither a C-rig or drop-shot rig can deliver.
I'm not saying it would be wise or prudent to fish a rigging like that in competition (there are simply too many moving parts that can go wrong with it). However, when anglers are fishing with hooks turned in and such, in practice. Maybe it's an exploratory system (anything one would imagine that saves angler time in covering an area in practice, might ultimately be useful). If one is simply practicising and not catching. My sense too, is that while some anglers like to only 'graph' and electronically survey water while practicising in the boat for competitions. Some anglers like to use Ned rigs, drop shots and C-rig's in order to study the bottom contours of the water body. To help them understand what the lake is like, and what is going on. In addition to the use of their screens. And for that purpose alone. Something that could transform itself from C-rig to drop-shot, or back again. Seemed a useful thing to me.
As for the size of a weight in this system (or size of rod to use it with). It seemed to me, that having three rods with three different weight sizes. Would mean the following. The setup with heaviest weight. It would operate something close to a punching type system when used vertically. Or a straight up, heavy type C-rig when thrown horizontally. On the other extreme, the setup with light weight sinker. It would operate most like a traditional drop shot when used vertically. And it would fish something like a jig or weighted swimbait head when thrown horizontally. And the medium weight setup, would be somewhere in between. Neither a true C-rig set up, nor a real drop-shot set up either (maybe a little more like a Toyko rig that can be fished vertically, or thrown horizontally like a normal jig or swim jig).
I’ll be up this week. That’s a good bass hole you setting on too!!
Happy to see your Motorguide Pro is working. Mine went TERMINATOR Mode when I bought it new last May 2022. Service sucks to say the least from Motorguide/Mercury. Pays to be a PRO!!
Very good video. That's an awesome technique on one of my home lakes, Guntersville, as well. I really enjoyed that. You are a well spoken teacher. 👍
does the active target transducer need to be next to the 3 in 1 transducer? because i have a 23ft center i have the 3 in 1 transducer on the rear of boat my graph is at console i dont have a anything at the troller i didnt know if i can put the active target at the troller and leave the transducer at the back of the boat thank you
Always wanted to fish there man TB is a huge lake...! good vid 🎣👍
Good to go, enjoy seeing you do a crappie video. I love the bass fishing as well. But it’s nice seeing you do this. Best of luck to you
Moving here in January . Good technic hope to catch some crappie soon
Hey Andrew, when did you switch to Active Target (Lowrance) from Live Scope (Garmin)? Any particular reason?
Good video, not so good audio. The back and forth switching from stereo to mono is a bit aggravating.
I don't fish for crappie but .to me they taste better than another fish
white flake good taste
only other one close is
small catfish
I fish for recreation,not as an income so I don't have all the $ for all the goodies
There is a type of rigging I've seen saltwater anglers suggest. I only saw a diagram of it once.
It was kind of a free rig system. The main fluorcarbon line terminates to something like a swivel component. And a secondary line made out of braid is passed through the open eye of the swivel at the bottom of the main line back to the fishing rod. On one end of the braid piece, which is only a foot or two in length. Is a drop shot weight. On the opposite end of the same free moving braided piece, is another small swivel (which kind of stops when the braid slides through the open eye of the termination swivel). So one swivel tied to the braid piece, with drop shot weight at other end. Keeps this length of braid see-sawing back and forth through the open eye of the terminal swivel. On to the swivel on the braid line, is tied a short piece of fluorocarbon again to a hook. Which has a soft plastic bait rigged on the hook.
It's a really strange, odd kind of set up. Which is actually very 'unstable'. When fished vertically, the rig tends to operate something like a drop shot system. However, unlike a drop shot system, when the drop shot weight in on the bottom. The braided piece of line and short leader to that swings around fairly natural in the currents. That's one aspect to the system, when it operates vertically. When thrown horizontally however, it switches to becoming much more like a Carolina rigging system (the drop shot weight gets pulled up tight against that termination swivel). The braided line stretches back behind the weight as the thing is retrieved at depth. And the weightless soft plastic bait operates like a Carolina rig. When the whole thing is stationed at forty-five degrees down to the angler in boat. It operates a little bit like a Drop Shot rig, and a little bit like a Carolina rig. Yet, it's neither one nor the other.
What you're using for Croppie there, is like a miniature version of what the saltwater guys throw when they are trolling for saltwater species. When they want to troll their spoon baits down at sufficient depth in order to get bites. It is like a half or quarter scaled down model version of that saltwater rigging. Which is interesting in itself. Having looked at that set up though, I wondered if that other saltwater rig. I don't know what it's called would work for Croppie fishing or not. In order to test it out. My real sense about that free-running braided line thing. Is that for practice fishing generally for bass in some form. It wouldn't be a bad option for practice. Why? If it worked, and I just looked at a diagram of it once. If it worked, it enables the bass angler to both drop shot and Carolina rig fish. At the same time, without needing to change rods. All that one has to do, is to change casting angle. And you've got a 'two in one' sort of multi-purpose tool available. Probably no where near as effective as either or. However, there is that forty-five degree angle situation that interested me. Where for a brief amount of time, the rigging system becomes something that neither a C-rig or drop-shot rig can deliver.
I'm not saying it would be wise or prudent to fish a rigging like that in competition (there are simply too many moving parts that can go wrong with it). However, when anglers are fishing with hooks turned in and such, in practice. Maybe it's an exploratory system (anything one would imagine that saves angler time in covering an area in practice, might ultimately be useful). If one is simply practicising and not catching. My sense too, is that while some anglers like to only 'graph' and electronically survey water while practicising in the boat for competitions. Some anglers like to use Ned rigs, drop shots and C-rig's in order to study the bottom contours of the water body. To help them understand what the lake is like, and what is going on. In addition to the use of their screens. And for that purpose alone. Something that could transform itself from C-rig to drop-shot, or back again. Seemed a useful thing to me.
As for the size of a weight in this system (or size of rod to use it with). It seemed to me, that having three rods with three different weight sizes. Would mean the following. The setup with heaviest weight. It would operate something close to a punching type system when used vertically. Or a straight up, heavy type C-rig when thrown horizontally. On the other extreme, the setup with light weight sinker. It would operate most like a traditional drop shot when used vertically. And it would fish something like a jig or weighted swimbait head when thrown horizontally. And the medium weight setup, would be somewhere in between. Neither a true C-rig set up, nor a real drop-shot set up either (maybe a little more like a Toyko rig that can be fished vertically, or thrown horizontally like a normal jig or swim jig).
lol they been doing this technique for years long time they teach this in pre K lol 😂
Just because you know it, doesn’t mean the rest of the world does. Believe me, there are plenty of anglers who don’t.
live scope! Turn the channel!