This frequency balance does not work. Evidence? The example is at the end of the video, it is absolutely unbalanced. More evidence? See how much bass there is in NOISIA tracks. This is a completely different approach to the mix. Saturation, including the bottom, soft clipping, basic dense sound and several layers around it. There are a lot of tricks, no matching equalizer will help in these matters.
That could be your monitors. I bought some Event 20s powered. I didn't realise for a long time that the bass response is very flat. When I mixed a song it always came out bass heavy. It was the speakers making me push the bass to much.
Late to the party but I absolutely missed that one. One of the best described videos on the topic of 'why and how to even out your frequencies'. The hack regarding pink noise as a reference is something I've never heard in any video before (or at least that well described). Thanks for the constant information and music education you are providing!
TDR Slick EQ GE actually does this in regards to pink noise really well and quicker. Thank you this was ear and brain opener, because I used to nice that sounds feel and sound better after going through Slick EQ
The -6 dB per octave rule can help us think, but can't you hear, even on the piece of music at the end, that you have approximated the timbre of every instrument, creating an unnatural sameness and boringness in which every instrument seems to want to do the same job in the mix? You have to allow each instrument a personality and only the final mix should be a balanced sum of the parts.
I think its up to the producer, intent of the mix, style or genre and how much time you have for things. This is a quick workflow for getting things balanced and loud in a dancefloor tune. I wouldnt do that on a jazz record.
Really nice! I use this technique for many years and I can say that you explained the principles very well. I haven't watched to the end yet. But I will say right away that this is a great example of a tutorial video.
Nice tips today! Will definitely take the Ozone EQ "reshape EQ curve to pink noise"-Trick and use something like that on each Buss. Thanks Mann ;) Grüße, Waldschwammerl
_"why your mixdown is shit - tonal balance, brightness equals loudness"_ Nah, my mixdown is shit because of that rap my cousin did, who the f*** raps about fruit ?
Very very useful and informative. I wish I had even seen this 5 years earlier. Thumbs up! 5 of 5 Stars!! Ich dachte den Dialekt kennste doch....so so Eisleben, hätte auf Thüringen getippt.. Grüße aus Berlin.
Superinformativ. Gerade die Sache mit der Bass "Trägerwelle" am Anfang. So etwas ist total hilfreich dabei zu verstehen warum etwas eine schlechte Idee ist. Ich mag nämlich nicht gern Regeln folgen die ich nicht verstehe. ;-)
to everything that needs it, where it makes sense in the context of the track. if you have a piano on one track, and you want it to sound legit, then you wouldnt want to do it at all. it depends, there is no general rule
Usually I tend to only balance and limit the whole mix instead of groups. But when there are drums present I tend to fall into the same workflow. can’t help but I want drums loud and snappy and Leads and pads as dynamic and transparent as possible.
Why does Ozone 9 not have these nice EQ balance options that you are showing with Ozone 8?! Do I need to switch to Ozone 8 for this? :O - Good to see you go for the 'Auditory Filters' approach. - Not really into the pink noise solution. Because the fundamentals are the Flechter-Munson Curves for our hearing perception.
@@PolarityMusic Ok thanks dude. - Will check. - Are you familiar with iZotope Relay (which is similar to Bitwig's Tool device) which connects with iZotope Insight? - Pretty neat thing to do. Would like to use this workflow or at least try it out but it won't load in Bitwig as well for me... The Relay instances don't show up in Insight. - Maybe I have some kind of bug with iZotope products.. I don't know... :/
@@realtonaldrum sorry for the late answer. In Bitwig you need to change the plug-in sandbox options. When every plug-in is in its own sandbox they can’t communicate
I came up with this 4.5 slope technique myself recently, amazing to see it confirmed that I was on the right track to getting better balanced mixes.
One of the best videos on frequency balance I've come across. Great explanation and very thorough. Thanks again Polarity!
This frequency balance does not work.
Evidence?
The example is at the end of the video, it is absolutely unbalanced.
More evidence?
See how much bass there is in NOISIA tracks. This is a completely different approach to the mix. Saturation, including the bottom, soft clipping, basic dense sound and several layers around it. There are a lot of tricks, no matching equalizer will help in these matters.
ok whatever you say ☺️
Great video!! For some reason i have not come across any tutorials on how to balance your music.... so my shit always sounds veryy bass heavy
That could be your monitors. I bought some Event 20s powered. I didn't realise for a long time that the bass response is very flat. When I mixed a song it always came out bass heavy. It was the speakers making me push the bass to much.
Late to the party but I absolutely missed that one. One of the best described videos on the topic of 'why and how to even out your frequencies'. The hack regarding pink noise as a reference is something I've never heard in any video before (or at least that well described). Thanks for the constant information and music education you are providing!
TDR Slick EQ GE actually does this in regards to pink noise really well and quicker. Thank you this was ear and brain opener, because I used to nice that sounds feel and sound better after going through Slick EQ
The -6 dB per octave rule can help us think, but can't you hear, even on the piece of music at the end, that you have approximated the timbre of every instrument, creating an unnatural sameness and boringness in which every instrument seems to want to do the same job in the mix? You have to allow each instrument a personality and only the final mix should be a balanced sum of the parts.
I think its up to the producer, intent of the mix, style or genre and how much time you have for things. This is a quick workflow for getting things balanced and loud in a dancefloor tune. I wouldnt do that on a jazz record.
I agree, it's about art of making music, not being the loudest
damn i wish i had seen this over a decade ago. perfectly explained again.
Thank you for opening the door to that hidden room I didn’t know about 😳
Really nice!
I use this technique for many years and I can say that you explained the principles very well. I haven't watched to the end yet. But I will say right away that this is a great example of a tutorial video.
Nice tips today! Will definitely take the Ozone EQ "reshape EQ curve to pink noise"-Trick and use something like that on each Buss.
Thanks Mann ;)
Grüße,
Waldschwammerl
_"why your mixdown is shit - tonal balance, brightness equals loudness"_
Nah, my mixdown is shit because of that rap my cousin did, who the f*** raps about fruit ?
Very very useful and informative. I wish I had even seen this 5 years earlier. Thumbs up! 5 of 5 Stars!! Ich dachte den Dialekt kennste doch....so so Eisleben, hätte auf Thüringen getippt.. Grüße aus Berlin.
This is mind blowing it explains so many issues I've been having. Thanks for this!
Thank you so much. Its drives me insane.
Great vid, Do you do this on the single tracks or groups?
Thank you so much.. No one explain about frequency balance like you... Such a great expectations.. 💕 from India.. Again thank yo so much..
you are the man
I have ozone 10 bundle but it doesn't come with auto balance. What else can I use?
@8:25, sorry, no, don't do it like this,
this is very harsh, not balanced
i had recorded in bitwig 8 track .sound sucks much . could you help me?
Superinformativ. Gerade die Sache mit der Bass "Trägerwelle" am Anfang. So etwas ist total hilfreich dabei zu verstehen warum etwas eine schlechte Idee ist. Ich mag nämlich nicht gern Regeln folgen die ich nicht verstehe. ;-)
One of the best UA-cam videos I’ve ever seen, thank you so so much 🙏.
"Your Mix Sucks" is a somewhat famous quote. 🙂
Awesome guideline. This helped out so much. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. Exactly what I needed.
That was all very useful. Thanks a lot!.
Question around the manual eq part at 8:00 - would you apply this "levelling out" to all the groups / busses or individual stems also?
to everything that needs it, where it makes sense in the context of the track. if you have a piano on one track, and you want it to sound legit, then you wouldnt want to do it at all. it depends, there is no general rule
Can MSpectralDynamics be used to flatten the signal to pink noise as Ozone 9 is used here? Seems like so, but I'm not really sure.
sure. it probably sounds a bit different because the melda comp works in the spectral domain, but it´s the roughly the same yes.
Thank you so much!!
Thank you very much, very informative!
where can I listen to this beautiful dnb track from the video?
completly forget about this tune. maybe ill have to finish it. but when, then it will be released on polarity.bandcamp.com
this one follow weller
Very useful insights! Thank you!
Would you go through the same process while mixing psybient/chill/ambient?
Usually I tend to only balance and limit the whole mix instead of groups. But when there are drums present I tend to fall into the same workflow. can’t help but I want drums loud and snappy and Leads and pads as dynamic and transparent as possible.
Thx polarity got a lot from this video really helpful
thanks! glad I could help!
So why is my mixdown shit? Did this question get answered?
Yes
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Why does Ozone 9 not have these nice EQ balance options that you are showing with Ozone 8?! Do I need to switch to Ozone 8 for this? :O - Good to see you go for the 'Auditory Filters' approach. - Not really into the pink noise solution. Because the fundamentals are the Flechter-Munson Curves for our hearing perception.
Pink noise is good for a rough guide. For ozone 9 you need to load a preset. Not sure why they changed this.
@@PolarityMusic Ok thanks dude. - Will check. - Are you familiar with iZotope Relay (which is similar to Bitwig's Tool device) which connects with iZotope Insight? - Pretty neat thing to do. Would like to use this workflow or at least try it out but it won't load in Bitwig as well for me... The Relay instances don't show up in Insight. - Maybe I have some kind of bug with iZotope products.. I don't know... :/
@@PolarityMusic I was wondering why you kept going to 8. Makes sense. Thanks for the info!
@@realtonaldrum sorry for the late answer. In Bitwig you need to change the plug-in sandbox options. When every plug-in is in its own sandbox they can’t communicate
@@PolarityMusic Ahhhh!. Thanks man. Makes sense!
i'm very confused!!!!😭